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In-Reply-To: <8734ikpnaq.fsf@HIDDEN> (Sharlatan Hellseher's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:46:21 +0000") References: <8734ikpnaq.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.7; emacs 29.4 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:19:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87o717gbt8.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60608 Cc: 60608 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Sharlatan Hellseher <sharlatanus@HIDDEN> writes: > Any plan to have Bazel in main Guix git repository or it's not > compatibly license wise? Bazel is in guix-science, with a bazel-build-system as well. It's compatible when looking at just the licenses, but there are a number of annoying wrinkles: - Bazel itself bundles lots of binaries (Java libraries); I have made no serious attempt at unbundling them. Packaging Java libraries gives me ulcers. - the bazel-build-system works in ways that are really quite mismatched with how Guix works. It performs a two-stage build: the first step is to run Bazel to download "sources" in a fixed output derivation; the second step (at a later time) is to unpack these hash-identified sources and run Bazel again without the download. - Bazel makes it *very* hard or even impossible to replace parts of the build dependencies with packages from Guix. I recently added python-ray to guix-science, which insists on using its own GNU Make (among many others). This means that the source blob is usually incredibly large. - Bazel does not care about whether something is source or binary. The bazel-build-system assumes that the first step is to download sources only. Bazel does not see it this way and is perfectly happy to fetch or build binaries at this stage. It has happened a number of times that the hash of the fixed output derivation changed after an update of seemingly unrelated libraries, because the fixed output wasn't fixed after all. I'd rather move Keras to guix-science than to contaminate Guix proper with the abomination that is the bazel-build-system (and its relative Bazel, which I will attempt not to call an abomination in public). -- Ricardo
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#60608; Package guix.
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2023 21:20:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 06 16:20:22 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55948 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pDu8T-0003uz-Pj for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 16:20:22 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rekado@HIDDEN>) id 1pDu8S-0003ur-2z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 16:20:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rekado@HIDDEN>) id 1pDu8Q-0001JZ-L5 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 16:20:18 -0500 Received: from sender4-of-o51.zoho.com ([136.143.188.51]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rekado@HIDDEN>) id 1pDu8O-0005GB-P2 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 16:20:18 -0500 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1673040012; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=mgtIYpS0cRf3ibWw8c5R3l2FmmyNq+2PtdybYA51Hm+skxE6b5QC2ZG8U93L3uNOfX9BMLEmkHiw8EV0i5aWpBNlCCXLXAoJUx6rTYjjrwB22s8+mo0yF5b4YLi3wReL5tfVvVBk4aQ2jwBdCZD8ndFVR7V2uR2W0ScSQDjEQsk= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1673040012; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To; bh=teqsX1ZGYyS4bkLra15wyzYDs83vf0+MQQacA2GNC04=; b=J+bOpPEJ5l9mr4YxA1OYNqExIT3zqKVOwu36TyQWp2VnP7D9Ph83zRxtvZzXIOK6waWQLf5h5E7O+j8QpZmtODaAWHNUmae6pcX9jEFqt4fsh1OFP7RVmAuKgdvKWGDiKlvettbP+RXBcd03hyXx7LbvUas+HpXJ2hdxB+Jv9es= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@HIDDEN; dmarc=pass header.from=<rekado@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1673040012; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@HIDDEN; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Date:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=teqsX1ZGYyS4bkLra15wyzYDs83vf0+MQQacA2GNC04=; b=XhNVvDCVuegu+1qKaD7MpjnmA/Ze3HSiorxBeYrCqbdkemO5ajzX9xtu6JKU6eCY u5beKpRETm12EbsHXmT1bMiRe2zeVXa1gmQZk+ab/sjKW52Q59mjLz2cK/+jFDxLFwy kETogPr6gQZO+9WRhLXCdcSuqF0Y5NkHkp1d5xhA= Received: from localhost (227-111-142-46.pool.kielnet.net [46.142.111.227]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1673040011585335.52493028765923; Fri, 6 Jan 2023 13:20:11 -0800 (PST) User-agent: mu4e 1.8.13; emacs 28.2 From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN> To: bug-guix@HIDDEN Subject: keras is broken =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=93=3E?= package bazel? Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 22:16:56 +0100 X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Message-ID: <87h6x32wdz.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.188.51; envelope-from=rekado@HIDDEN; helo=sender4-of-o51.zoho.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) We have an old version of keras. This is now broken. It is not compatible with python-h5py > 2.10. Our version of Tensorflow also won=E2=80=99t work with h5py 3. We can=E2=80=99t upgrade keras to anything above 2.2.5 because any later ve= rsion is built with Bazel. We cannot build Bazel, because it needs a big pile of jars that we haven=E2=80=99t packaged yet. Tensorflow > 1.9 also requires Bazel. We should work towards packaging Bazel. Debian has a Bazel bootstrap package, so I=E2=80=99m hopeful that it=E2=80=99s possible to package with = some effort. --=20 Ricardo
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