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Full text available.Received: (at 60725) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2023 14:34:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 11 09:34:42 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pFcBe-0002eG-0p for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 09:34:42 -0500 Received: from mail1.fsfe.org ([217.69.89.151]:57168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jlicht@HIDDEN>) id 1pFcBc-0002e4-Ae; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 09:34:40 -0500 From: Jelle Licht <jlicht@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsfe.org; s=2021100501; t=1673447679; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=sS9SLJx3tiaWv1HDkzp/fsPSBuabwJW1V7F7YcjztiM=; b=a7arrbfnH0HP9AJboeI++LA+NfAQkvvKaAVJUu1hq04r6jHpwMAq9okOrYzmVEoDSGny1g iq4dDXxx4DqSpGYCVvg9u2FPlt2Lx/bqSkodIJHHkaRsq87S3AKXWWfHoez4ttCCiWYWrq y2D/VQhGs5Xm7bov//r+FeuDajTN4oc= To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60725: guix lint thinks 2019111-0.7e76d75 is older than 20191111 In-Reply-To: <87358hjifv.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <878ri9kb3v.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ilhdkxv3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87358hjifv.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:34:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87cz7lkum8.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60725 Cc: 60725 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, GNU Debbugs <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes: > retitle 60725 support the special '~' character in our version parser > thanks > > Jelle Licht <jlicht@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>> Hi Guix, >>> >>> If you run 'guix lint emacs-enh-ruby-mode', it'll print this: >>> >>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >>> emacs-enh-ruby-mode@HIDDEN: can be upgraded to 20191111 >>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> In this particular case, 2019111 seems to have been a typo in the first >> place. (It misses out on a '1' in our package record). > > Thanks! With this typo fixed, 'guix lint' doesn't suggest a downgrade > anymore. > >> AFAIK, any sane versioning scheme would assert that 20191111 > 2019111-anything. > > That's not currently the case with Guix. Guix package version strings > are documented has having the requirement to be 'monotonically > increasing', so '43.rc3' as used by GNOME is seen by Guix as newer than > '43', the final release. I agree with your assesment, but note that my example (again) had one "1" less, in which case Guix does the right thing :-). > > I'll keep this bug open (and retitle it), because implementing ~ would > be useful (GNOME makes use of that scheme, and it's understood by rpm, > dpkg, pkg-config, etc.). Fixing our versioning code so "123" > "123-alpha2" will also bring us (more) in line with Semantic Versioning. - Jelle
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[66.158.159.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id br31-20020a05620a461f00b006fa2cc1b0fbsm8956758qkb.11.2023.01.11.05.43.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 11 Jan 2023 05:43:01 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> To: Jelle Licht <jlicht@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#60725: guix lint thinks 2019111-0.7e76d75 is older than 20191111 References: <878ri9kb3v.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ilhdkxv3.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:43:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ilhdkxv3.fsf@HIDDEN> (Jelle Licht's message of "Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:24:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87358hjifv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60725 Cc: 60725 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, GNU Debbugs <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) retitle 60725 support the special '~' character in our version parser thanks Jelle Licht <jlicht@HIDDEN> writes: > Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Hi Guix, >> >> If you run 'guix lint emacs-enh-ruby-mode', it'll print this: >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> emacs-enh-ruby-mode@HIDDEN: can be upgraded to 20191111 >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > In this particular case, 2019111 seems to have been a typo in the first > place. (It misses out on a '1' in our package record). Thanks! With this typo fixed, 'guix lint' doesn't suggest a downgrade anymore. > AFAIK, any sane versioning scheme would assert that 20191111 > 2019111-anything. That's not currently the case with Guix. Guix package version strings are documented has having the requirement to be 'monotonically increasing', so '43.rc3' as used by GNOME is seen by Guix as newer than '43', the final release. I'll keep this bug open (and retitle it), because implementing ~ would be useful (GNOME makes use of that scheme, and it's understood by rpm, dpkg, pkg-config, etc.). -- Thanks, Maxim
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#60725; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 60725) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2023 13:24:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 11 08:24:37 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pFb5p-00072E-KY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:24:37 -0500 Received: from mail1.fsfe.org ([217.69.89.151]:33112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jlicht@HIDDEN>) id 1pFb5n-000722-4X for 60725 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:24:35 -0500 From: Jelle Licht <jlicht@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsfe.org; s=2021100501; t=1673443473; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=5/DRM9iqUYPKGJH3S2amRdA6hsbW/haNmh04e/vigtQ=; b=alBUuw1YmVptKbJxG61dZyoLxr1jaBsChIDukdkcwhLYD/11ZCcOFBJeEz0hbnmjRiPCH+ W+sZaZwRtjNyNqWASsg7wLJGPPzhZYcUehe+TSZIAEp2wQMC/WxmKbkA6EpU4/x+XSgIO6 PW6WJUEyacu2HFc3yjiuIGQRnCtFKEg= To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, 60725 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#60725: guix lint thinks 2019111-0.7e76d75 is older than 20191111 In-Reply-To: <878ri9kb3v.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <878ri9kb3v.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:24:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87ilhdkxv3.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 60725 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi Guix, > > If you run 'guix lint emacs-enh-ruby-mode', it'll print this: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > emacs-enh-ruby-mode@HIDDEN: can be upgraded to 20191111 > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- In this particular case, 2019111 seems to have been a typo in the first place. (It misses out on a '1' in our package record). AFAIK, any sane versioning scheme would assert that 20191111 > 2019111-anything.
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[66.158.157.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bp43-20020a05622a1bab00b003a68f5d98c1sm6906736qtb.93.2023.01.10.19.23.49 for <bug-guix@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:23:49 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> To: bug-guix <bug-guix@HIDDEN> Subject: guix lint thinks 2019111-0.7e76d75 is older than 20191111 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:23:48 -0500 Message-ID: <878ri9kb3v.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::830; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN; helo=mail-qt1-x830.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hi Guix, If you run 'guix lint emacs-enh-ruby-mode', it'll print this: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- emacs-enh-ruby-mode@HIDDEN: can be upgraded to 20191111 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- That's wrong; it should know that something that starts with the tag and has trailing characters is considered newer. Actually, it should probably implement the RPM scheme used in Debian also, so that an RC can be understood as older than the final release. The scheme uses the tilde character (~) as a way to specify that the version is lower than the number that precedes the tilde. See the test case here for a "specification" (there may be a better place): https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/blob/4afe2d14d33db82ccb41c0a8d5eb1a4db90762fc/tests/rpmvercmp.at#L94 -- Thanks, Maxim
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