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From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100

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I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents:

--cut here--
(require 'org)
--cut here--

and then called emacs as

emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el

I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer:

⛔ Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lexical
variable `org-element-use-cache'

BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it be
reserved for things like errors?


In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.33, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-01-14 built on bdeb404024db
Repository revision: bdbb7099784eb79ef9b94bb85f0c3dc9dae82d6c
Repository branch: emacs-29
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003
System Description: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=29 --with-json --with-x
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-cairo --with-compress-install
 --with-modules=yes --with-threads --with-included-regex --with-zlib
 --without-tree-sitter --with-native-compilation 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -ffile-prefix-map=/home/paag/emacs=. -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects
 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat
 -Werror=format-security' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'
 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects
 -flto=auto -Wl,-z,relro''

Configured features:
CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG
SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM
GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_MONETARY: es_ES.UTF-8
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: es_ES.UTF-8
  value of $LC_TIME: es_ES.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode
mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils comp comp-cstr warnings
cl-seq cl-macs gv cl-extra help-mode bytecomp byte-compile org ob
ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-macro org-src ob-comint
org-pcomplete pcomplete comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring org-list
org-footnote org-faces org-entities time-date subr-x noutline outline
icons ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval org-cycle org-table ol rx org-fold
org-fold-core org-keys oc org-loaddefs find-func cal-menu calendar
cal-loaddefs org-version org-compat org-macs format-spec cl-loaddefs
cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify
ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win
term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register
page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors
frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript
charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure
cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp
files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env
code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote
threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty
make-network-process native-compile emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 138339 8519)
 (symbols 48 12182 0)
 (strings 32 38825 2002)
 (string-bytes 1 1214298)
 (vectors 16 23551)
 (vector-slots 8 443047 16748)
 (floats 8 97 86)
 (intervals 56 276 0)
 (buffers 984 12))

-- 
Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run
a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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Message #8 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>, 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:50:01 -0800

On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote:
> BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it be
> reserved for things like errors?

Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead? 
Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate.

Message #11 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 08:35:16 +0100

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Done!

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 at 07:50, Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote:
> > BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it
> be
> > reserved for things like errors?
>
> Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead?
> Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate.
>


-- 
Fragen sind nicht da um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run
a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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Message #14 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 16:43:46 +0200

> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100
> 
> I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents:
> 
> --cut here--
> (require 'org)
> --cut here--
> 
> and then called emacs as
> 
> emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el
> 
> I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer:
> 
> ⛔ Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lexical variable `org-element-use-cache'

I cannot reproduce this.  Crystal ball says that your org-loaddefs.el
is stale and needs to be regenerated.

> BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it be
> reserved for things like errors?

Others explained why this uses that particular icon.  I don't see any
serious problem there, as any icon I can think of could be confusing
to someone.

Message #17 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: jporterbugs <at> gmail.com, 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 23:57:56 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote:
  > > > BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it
  > > be
  > > > reserved for things like errors?
  > >
  > > Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead?
  > > Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate.

In what context are these characters used?  I never see them in using
Emacs -- which is a good thing, since the Linux console can't display
them: they appear onit as one or three blue diamonds.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #20 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
To: rms <at> gnu.org, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 21:44:38 -0800

On 1/16/2023 8:57 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> 
>    > > On 1/15/2023 10:29 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez wrote:
>    > > > BTW: Isn't ⛔ a bit to "visually drastic" for a _warning_ ? Shouldn't it
>    > > be
>    > > > reserved for things like errors?
>    > >
>    > > Maybe worth filing a separate bug about this, but how about ⚠️ instead?
>    > > Its official name is "Warning Sign", which seems appropriate.
> 
> In what context are these characters used?  I never see them in using
> Emacs -- which is a good thing, since the Linux console can't display
> them: they appear onit as one or three blue diamonds.

They appear in the *Warnings* buffer if some code calls 
'display-warning'. You can see what it looks like on your system by 
evaluating:

  (display-warning 'some-type "a warning message")

The code to generate these icons is (well, should be) smart enough to 
choose a fallback string instead of ⛔ if your Emacs session can't 
display that character.

Message #23 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, paaguti <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:00:38 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > The code to generate these icons is (well, should be) smart enough to 
  > choose a fallback string instead of ⛔ if your Emacs session can't 
  > display that character.

That seems to work properly.
Thanks.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #26 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 16:35:45 -0700

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100
>>
>> I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents:
>>
>> --cut here--
>> (require 'org)
>> --cut here--
>>
>> and then called emacs as
>>
>> emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el
>>
>> I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer:
>>
>> ⛔ Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lexical variable `org-element-use-cache'
>
> I cannot reproduce this.  Crystal ball says that your org-loaddefs.el
> is stale and needs to be regenerated.

Are you still seeing this?

It seems like a "make bootstrap" should fix it.

Message #31 received at 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 60850 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 08:57:48 +0200

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HI, it is fixed on my side with emacs30 compiled on 05-09-23.

Thanks!
/PA

On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 01:35, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 07:29:28 +0100
> >>
> >> I created a file called /tmp/test.el with the following contents:
> >>
> >> --cut here--
> >> (require 'org)
> >> --cut here--
> >>
> >> and then called emacs as
> >>
> >> emacs -Q -l /tmp/test.el
> >>
> >> I get the following message in the *Warnings* buffer:
> >>
> >> ⛔ Warning (comp): org-loaddefs.el.gz:846:61: Warning: Unused lexical
> variable `org-element-use-cache'
> >
> > I cannot reproduce this.  Crystal ball says that your org-loaddefs.el
> > is stale and needs to be regenerated.
>
> Are you still seeing this?
>
> It seems like a "make bootstrap" should fix it.
>


-- 
Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler

Headaches with a Juju log:
unit-basic-16: 09:17:36 WARNING juju.worker.uniter.operation we should run
a leader-deposed hook here, but we can't yet

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Message #36 received at 60850-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 60850-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#60850:
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 00:31:24 -0700

Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti <at> gmail.com> writes:

> HI, it is fixed on my side with emacs30 compiled on 05-09-23.

Thanks for reporting back.  I'm therefore closing this bug report.

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