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30.0.50; Keybinding for Info-search-next in info-mode

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From: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.50; Keybinding for Info-search-next in info-mode
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:25:59 +0100

AFAICS there is no keybinding for function Info-search-next in
info-mode.

This is the suggestion to add a respective binding.

BTW I use the binding (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "a") #'Info-search-next).

Without this setting one could achive the same effect by pressing key "s"
followed by RET which I find tiring compared to pressing just one key.

Also note that the "less" shell command provides a very similar
functionality with the key "n" after a search.


Thanks for reading!

-- 
Marco Wahl

Message #8 received at 60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft <at> gmail.com>, "60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org"
 <60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : bug#60960: 30.0.50; Keybinding for Info-search-next
 in info-mode
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 17:26:53 +0000

> AFAICS there is no keybinding for function Info-search-next in
> info-mode. This is the suggestion to add a respective binding.
> BTW I use the binding (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "a")
> #'Info-search-next).

FWIW, in `info+.el' I bind `a' to `info-apropos'.

> Without this setting one could achive the same effect by pressing key "s"
> followed by RET which I find tiring compared to pressing just one key.

Any user can of course bind `Info-search-next'
to a key.

But I wonder how many users even use `s' these
days - as opposed to `C-M-s'.  Is there a
particular use case for it?  I may have just
forgotten that.

I can see how it might be convenient to have
different regexps remembered for `s' and `C-M-s',
so I guess that's one use case for having and
using both commands.  (And in that case, sure,
maybe bind `*-next*' - that definitely would
improve the use of `s'.)

That's possible because there are separate
histories, `Info-search-history' and
`regexp-search-ring'.

On the other hand, it might be good to have an
option that lets `Info-search' add its regexp
to `regexp-search-ring'.  Or vice versa: let
`Info-search' retrieve values from
`regexp-search-ring'.  Or both possibilities.

One way or another, there's some "overlap"
between isearching with `C-M-s' and the
nonincremental searching of `Info-search'.
And some room maybe for leveraging that - the
fact that there are two regexp histories and
two ways to search (incremental or not).

(BTW - seems like `Info-search' would be better
named `Info-regexp-search' or, following
`nonincremental-re-search-forward', something
like `Info-nonincremental-regexp-search'.)

Message #11 received at 60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft <at> gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: "60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : bug#60960: 30.0.50; Keybinding for Info-search-next
 in info-mode
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:32:59 +0100

On 1/20/23, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> wrote:
>> AFAICS there is no keybinding for function Info-search-next in
>> info-mode. This is the suggestion to add a respective binding.
>> BTW I use the binding (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "a")
>> #'Info-search-next).
>
> FWIW, in `info+.el' I bind `a' to `info-apropos'.

Thanks for the pointers!

>> Without this setting one could achive the same effect by pressing key "s"
>> followed by RET which I find tiring compared to pressing just one key.
>
> Any user can of course bind `Info-search-next'
> to a key.
>
> But I wonder how many users even use `s' these
> days - as opposed to `C-M-s'.  Is there a
> particular use case for it?  I may have just
> forgotten that.

I wonder how I could not use C-M-s.  Somehow I was fixated to using
the s when searching within info.

> I can see how it might be convenient to have
> different regexps remembered for `s' and `C-M-s',
> so I guess that's one use case for having and
> using both commands.  (And in that case, sure,
> maybe bind `*-next*' - that definitely would
> improve the use of `s'.)

Two searches in parallel might be cool somehow but I never thought
about this use case.

> That's possible because there are separate
> histories, `Info-search-history' and
> `regexp-search-ring'.

Okay.

> [...]

For me the issue is fixed.  I simply switch to your suggestion C-M-s.

If you can close this bug report, please go ahead.

Thanks for your support!

Message #16 received at 60960-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 60960-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com
Subject: Re: bug#60960: 30.0.50; Keybinding for Info-search-next in info-mode
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 09:44:03 +0200

> Cc: "60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <60960 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
> From: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:32:59 +0100
> 
> For me the issue is fixed.  I simply switch to your suggestion C-M-s.
> 
> If you can close this bug report, please go ahead.

Thanks, done.

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