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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, that's nice, thanks! However I think it would be also fair to mention that ACLs will not be conv= erted/translated (I.e. no posix to nfsv4 or vice versa). We are not that cl= ever. Up to you really. Zasl=E1no z Outlooku pro Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 7:46:28 PM To: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>; Kamil Dudka <kdudka@r= edhat.com> Cc: 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; bug-coreutils@HIDDEN <b= ug-coreutils@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs OK, how about the attached more-ambitious patch instead? I hope it helps clarify this confusing area. --_000_TYXPR01MB1854A124087E6A3DAA083D62D9D09TYXPR01MB1854jpnp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> </head> <body> <div dir=3D"auto">Yes, that's nice, thanks!</div> <div dir=3D"auto">However I think it would be also fair to mention that ACL= s will not be converted/translated (I.e. no posix to nfsv4 or vice versa). = We are not that clever.</div> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(25= 5, 255, 255);"> <br> </div> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(25= 5, 255, 255);"> Up to you really.</div> <div><br> </div> <div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto">Zasl=E1no z <a href=3D= "https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg"> Outlooku pro Android</a></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st= yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Paul Eggert <egger= t@HIDDEN><br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2023 7:46:28 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>; Kamil Du= dka <kdudka@HIDDEN><br> <b>Cc:</b> 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; bug-coreuti= ls@HIDDEN <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs</fon= t> <div> </div> </div> <div class=3D"BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;= "> <div class=3D"PlainText">OK, how about the attached more-ambitious patch in= stead? I hope it helps <br> clarify this confusing area.</div> </span></font></div> </body> </html> --_000_TYXPR01MB1854A124087E6A3DAA083D62D9D09TYXPR01MB1854jpnp_--
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, that's nice, thanks! However I think it would be also fair to mention that ACLs will not be conv= erted/translated (I.e. no posix to nfsv4 or vice versa). We are not that cl= ever. Up to you really. Zasl=E1no z Outlooku pro Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 7:46:28 PM To: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>; Kamil Dudka <kdudka@r= edhat.com> Cc: 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; bug-coreutils@HIDDEN <b= ug-coreutils@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs OK, how about the attached more-ambitious patch instead? I hope it helps clarify this confusing area. --_000_TYXPR01MB1854A124087E6A3DAA083D62D9D09TYXPR01MB1854jpnp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> </head> <body> <div dir=3D"auto">Yes, that's nice, thanks!</div> <div dir=3D"auto">However I think it would be also fair to mention that ACL= s will not be converted/translated (I.e. no posix to nfsv4 or vice versa). = We are not that clever.</div> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(25= 5, 255, 255);"> <br> </div> <div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(25= 5, 255, 255);"> Up to you really.</div> <div><br> </div> <div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto">Zasl=E1no z <a href=3D= "https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg"> Outlooku pro Android</a></div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st= yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Paul Eggert <egger= t@HIDDEN><br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2023 7:46:28 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>; Kamil Du= dka <kdudka@HIDDEN><br> <b>Cc:</b> 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; bug-coreuti= ls@HIDDEN <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs</fon= t> <div> </div> </div> <div class=3D"BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;= "> <div class=3D"PlainText">OK, how about the attached more-ambitious patch in= stead? I hope it helps <br> clarify this confusing area.</div> </span></font></div> </body> </html> --_000_TYXPR01MB1854A124087E6A3DAA083D62D9D09TYXPR01MB1854jpnp_--
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I am not saying which approach is (more) correct though. Exactly my point as well.=20 Also, it is not correct to say "cp -p now preserves ACL" because it ALWAYS = preserved Posix ACLs - it was only not obvious from the man page. Hence my fix there. The only change we introduced recently is that "cp -p" not only preserves P= osix ACLs but also NFSv4 ACLs.
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I am not saying which approach is (more) correct though. Exactly my point as well.=20 Also, it is not correct to say "cp -p now preserves ACL" because it ALWAYS = preserved Posix ACLs - it was only not obvious from the man page. Hence my fix there. The only change we introduced recently is that "cp -p" not only preserves P= osix ACLs but also NFSv4 ACLs.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2023 07:40:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 30 02:40:11 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pMOlv-000275-FY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:11 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]:39739) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <kdudka@HIDDEN>) id 1pMOlt-00026u-8f for 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1675064408; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=OiEf+4NxV/Yjnm5GJDqkdRQG9Qxy3/3lWlSTbPV/9TY=; b=VsBZMUwXQmWRcJlI/PQcd9UGnw0m7915rZLik0PrPnXH3E0BmxhhzJnVdR17FlzVSCxQqo DYFveiMW3lfVsU61vTBn9uuyNnmp73IO7U4iZE/GB4qFknRYqUIwRXAM9BFxW2VIAP+OsI ARJlnCN1NW8AR+Zr+bk34m7lmMk2e30= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mx3-rdu2.redhat.com [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-299-xzFgsL7tOOOG7Gd1QJ47Mw-1; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:07 -0500 X-MC-Unique: xzFgsL7tOOOG7Gd1QJ47Mw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4F223810B08; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 07:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nbkamil.localnet (unknown [10.43.7.71]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03132175AD; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 07:40:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Kamil Dudka <kdudka@HIDDEN> To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 08:40:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2131183.irdbgypaU6@nbkamil> In-Reply-To: <4543eb84-0f55-4f97-7958-6befbeedb61f@HIDDEN> References: <20230124084229.1923075-1-ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN> <12140391.O9o76ZdvQC@nbkamil> <4543eb84-0f55-4f97-7958-6befbeedb61f@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.5 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61035 Cc: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>, "61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, bug-coreutils@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sunday, January 29, 2023 11:04:22 PM CET Paul Eggert wrote: > On 2023-01-29 03:06, Kamil Dudka wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 11:01:45 PM CET Paul Eggert wrote: > >> On 2023-01-25 13:56, Ondrej Valousek wrote: > >>> But it's not the same meaning. What I am trying to explain here is that > >>> > >>> Cp -p (or cp --preserve=mode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious, but yet it's happening > >> Then I'm afraid I don't understand. In what sense do ACLs differ from > >> xattr here? > > As I understand it, `cp -p` now preserves ACLs but not xattr (unlike `cp -a`). > > OK, the light is slowly dawning on me. Though I'm still confused. > > Why are ACLs treated differently from extended attributes? Shouldn't the > two be treated the same (assuming they're both supported)? > > In other words, what's the underlying model and motivation here? It's > more important to document that, than to document little pieces of it. I cannot speak for Ondrej. My understanding is that ACLs can be seen as extension over permission bits whereas the extended attributes can store pretty much anything. I am not saying which approach is (more) correct though. Kamil
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2023 07:40:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 30 02:40:17 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46219 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pMOm0-00027P-RD for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:17 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60530) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <kdudka@HIDDEN>) id 1pMOly-00027H-8S for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <kdudka@HIDDEN>) id 1pMOlx-0006sq-UR for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:13 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <kdudka@HIDDEN>) id 1pMOlw-0005x0-Db for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1675064410; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=OiEf+4NxV/Yjnm5GJDqkdRQG9Qxy3/3lWlSTbPV/9TY=; b=Jo9oAxVMRwCq6+95UfAA6l6WB9oJJRLFcCR6pRWkgskyNwu6YnUyFlakPNNdN0YkPDO1Ug RsliLyovf91AoEbJROVIrWuVTX1Z60XbtfrQQS5r9LHUDAv6b6XOTA8KDEkGU49H7wwKib A7zeSrRD6TeDvTb8Xk7yYoNsqm7PYxQ= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mx3-rdu2.redhat.com [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-299-xzFgsL7tOOOG7Gd1QJ47Mw-1; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:40:07 -0500 X-MC-Unique: xzFgsL7tOOOG7Gd1QJ47Mw-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4F223810B08; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 07:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nbkamil.localnet (unknown [10.43.7.71]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03132175AD; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 07:40:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Kamil Dudka <kdudka@HIDDEN> To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 08:40:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2131183.irdbgypaU6@nbkamil> In-Reply-To: <4543eb84-0f55-4f97-7958-6befbeedb61f@HIDDEN> References: <20230124084229.1923075-1-ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN> <12140391.O9o76ZdvQC@nbkamil> <4543eb84-0f55-4f97-7958-6befbeedb61f@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.5 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=kdudka@HIDDEN; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>, "61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, bug-coreutils@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) On Sunday, January 29, 2023 11:04:22 PM CET Paul Eggert wrote: > On 2023-01-29 03:06, Kamil Dudka wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 11:01:45 PM CET Paul Eggert wrote: > >> On 2023-01-25 13:56, Ondrej Valousek wrote: > >>> But it's not the same meaning. What I am trying to explain here is that > >>> > >>> Cp -p (or cp --preserve=mode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious, but yet it's happening > >> Then I'm afraid I don't understand. In what sense do ACLs differ from > >> xattr here? > > As I understand it, `cp -p` now preserves ACLs but not xattr (unlike `cp -a`). > > OK, the light is slowly dawning on me. Though I'm still confused. > > Why are ACLs treated differently from extended attributes? Shouldn't the > two be treated the same (assuming they're both supported)? > > In other words, what's the underlying model and motivation here? It's > more important to document that, than to document little pieces of it. I cannot speak for Ondrej. My understanding is that ACLs can be seen as extension over permission bits whereas the extended attributes can store pretty much anything. I am not saying which approach is (more) correct though. Kamil
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Full text available.Received: (at 61035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2023 22:04:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 29 17:04:39 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45509 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pMFmx-0003qD-BL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 17:04:39 -0500 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:34942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1pMFmr-0003pj-JG for 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 17:04:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A85160082; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id O3PEhTZ06A_6; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F9216008B; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:04:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 zimbra.cs.ucla.edu 24F9216008B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.ucla.edu; s=78364E5A-2AF3-11ED-87FA-8298ECA2D365; t=1675029866; bh=3Cmpen7LAXt0JXXg9WauANxDWBLF+CjwmTMt8XTPElE=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:To:From:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fHI/hKV7ZNwiwEWcq5AoJgGGdESXFrFDWMXLmfnn3+ipB4kxJpg7uUdfe+CqxVo43 zuapWUecq8V/1a1GY2+BIrYTYWxHwvZxdDRezgebMAz23EQU93eSEv/2aEx+HNxErF t7CoDyMvzuZ50iV0kJFsCMQ0SItorzqVsSKD4Jkk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id e1vj3zov__y5; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA2B5160082; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:04:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4543eb84-0f55-4f97-7958-6befbeedb61f@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:04:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Content-Language: en-US To: Kamil Dudka <kdudka@HIDDEN> References: <20230124084229.1923075-1-ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN> <TYXPR01MB1854B2CBFC274C534E6FE084D9CE9@HIDDEN> <4589b597-3459-fa2d-6a53-9fb59e1e13fc@HIDDEN> <12140391.O9o76ZdvQC@nbkamil> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Subject: Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs In-Reply-To: <12140391.O9o76ZdvQC@nbkamil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61035 Cc: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>, "61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, bug-coreutils@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) On 2023-01-29 03:06, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 11:01:45 PM CET Paul Eggert wrote: >> On 2023-01-25 13:56, Ondrej Valousek wrote: >>> But it's not the same meaning. What I am trying to explain here is that >>> >>> Cp -p (or cp --preserve=mode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious, but yet it's happening >> Then I'm afraid I don't understand. In what sense do ACLs differ from >> xattr here? > As I understand it, `cp -p` now preserves ACLs but not xattr (unlike `cp -a`). OK, the light is slowly dawning on me. Though I'm still confused. Why are ACLs treated differently from extended attributes? Shouldn't the two be treated the same (assuming they're both supported)? In other words, what's the underlying model and motivation here? It's more important to document that, than to document little pieces of it.
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What I am trying to explain here is that >>> >>> Cp -p (or cp --preserve=mode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious, but yet it's happening >> Then I'm afraid I don't understand. In what sense do ACLs differ from >> xattr here? > As I understand it, `cp -p` now preserves ACLs but not xattr (unlike `cp -a`). OK, the light is slowly dawning on me. Though I'm still confused. Why are ACLs treated differently from extended attributes? Shouldn't the two be treated the same (assuming they're both supported)? In other words, what's the underlying model and motivation here? It's more important to document that, than to document little pieces of it.
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What I am trying to explain here is that > > > > Cp -p (or cp --preserve=mode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious, but yet it's happening > > Then I'm afraid I don't understand. In what sense do ACLs differ from > xattr here? As I understand it, `cp -p` now preserves ACLs but not xattr (unlike `cp -a`). Kamil
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charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But it's not the same meaning. What I am trying to explain here is that Cp -p (or cp --preserve=3Dmode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious= , but yet it's happening Zasl=E1no z Outlooku pro Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ Od: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Odesl=E1no: st=F8eda 25. ledna 2023 21:43 Komu: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>; 61035@HIDDEN= rg <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> P=F8edm=ECt: Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs On 2023-01-25 01:24, Ondrej Valousek wrote: >> For --preserve[=3DATTR_LIST] the usage message says "preserve the specif= ied attributes (default: mode,ownership,timestamps), if possible additional >> attributes: context, links, xattr," > Yes, but that's nothing about ACLs. The aim of this patch is to clarify t= he current behavior which might not be obvious So how about if we change "context, links, xattr" to "ACLs, context, links, xattr"? That's shorter. --_000_TYXPR01MB1854B2CBFC274C534E6FE084D9CE9TYXPR01MB1854jpnp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 2"> </head> <body> <div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);= " dir=3D"auto"> But it's not the same meaning. What I am trying to explain here is that</di= v> <div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);= " dir=3D"auto"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);= " dir=3D"auto"> Cp -p (or cp --preserve=3Dmode) also retains ACLs. This fact is not obvious= , but yet it's happening</div> <div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto"> <div><br> </div> Zasl=E1no z <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg">Outlooku pro Android</a> <div id=3D"mail-editor-reference-message-container" dir=3D"auto"><br> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><strong>Od:</strong> P= aul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN><br> <strong>Odesl=E1no:</strong> st=F8eda 25. ledna 2023 21:43<br> <strong>Komu:</strong> Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN&g= t;; 61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <61035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org><br> <strong>P=F8edm=ECt:</strong> Re: bug#61035: [PATCH] cp: improve help regar= ding ACLs<br> </div> <br> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Exchange Server"> <!-- converted from text --><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;= "> <div class=3D"PlainText">On 2023-01-25 01:24, Ondrej Valousek wrote:<br> >> For --preserve[=3DATTR_LIST] the usage message says "preserve= the specified attributes (default: mode,ownership,timestamps), if possible= additional<br> >> attributes: context, links, xattr,"<br> > Yes, but that's nothing about ACLs. The aim of this patch is to clarif= y the current behavior which might not be obvious<br> <br> So how about if we change "context, links, xattr" to "ACLs, = context, <br> links, xattr"? That's shorter.<br> </div> </span></font><br> </div> </div> </body> </html> --_000_TYXPR01MB1854B2CBFC274C534E6FE084D9CE9TYXPR01MB1854jpnp_--
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2023 08:44:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 03:44:48 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55808 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pKEvA-0003BI-9k for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:44:48 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:40960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>) id 1pKEv8-0003BB-Mn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:44:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>) id 1pKEv8-0001tr-B1 for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:44:46 -0500 Received: from haproxy.adestotech.com ([217.163.77.122]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN>) id 1pKEv6-00019O-Dn for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:44:46 -0500 Received: from skynet19.adestotech.com (unknown [192.168.129.19]) by haproxy.adestotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1298A1466; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 08:44:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN> To: bug-coreutils@HIDDEN Subject: [PATCH] cp: improve help regarding ACLs Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 09:42:30 +0100 Message-Id: <20230124084229.1923075-1-ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.39.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.163.77.122; envelope-from=ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN; helo=haproxy.adestotech.com X-Spam_score_int: -4 X-Spam_score: -0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.5 / 5.0 requ) AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS=1.353, BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Ondrej Valousek <ondrej.valousek.xm@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Improve help to clarify ACL handling --- src/cp.c | 5 +++++ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+) diff --git a/src/cp.c b/src/cp.c index 016ae8988..73ffd34e9 100644 --- a/src/cp.c +++ b/src/cp.c @@ -239,6 +239,11 @@ When --reflink[=always] is specified, perform a lightweight copy, where the\n\ data blocks are copied only when modified. If this is not possible the copy\n\ fails, or if --reflink=auto is specified, fall back to a standard copy.\n\ Use --reflink=never to ensure a standard copy is performed.\n\ +"), stdout); + fputs (_("\ +\n\ +--preserve=mode also copies ACLs but only if the destination filesystem\n\ +supports ACLs of the same type (i.e. no Posix <> NFSv4 ACLs conversion)\n\ "), stdout); emit_backup_suffix_note (); fputs (_("\ -- 2.39.0
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