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Hi,
as evidenced here [1] the slightly ambiguous wording in the RFC 3339 [2]
seems to be the reason that the date utility using the
--rfc3339=TIMESPEC switch formats the date with a space instead of a 'T'.
I was confused as well, so I took the liberty to mail the authors of the
RFC in question. I attached the reply from Mr. Klyne.
There is also a patch attached.
Regards,
F. Alexander Njemz
[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-05/msg00014.html
[2] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3339.txt
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In short: "yes"
Per section 5.5, the intent in this draft was to specify a timestamp format
using elements from and compatible with 8601, but eliminating as far as
reasonable any variations that could make timestamp data harder to process.
This includes making the 'T' mandatory in date+time values.
#g
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F. Alexander Njemz wrote:
> Dear Sirs,
>
> there seems to be some confusion about the interpretation of the
> following passages
> of RFC 3339:
> in section 5.6:
> NOTE: ISO 8601 defines date and time separated by "T".
> Applications using this syntax may choose, for the sake of
> readability, to specify a full-date and full-time separated by
> (say) a space character.
> and in Appendix A:
> ISO 8601 states that the "T" may be omitted under some
> circumstances. This grammar requires the "T" to avoid ambiguity.
>
> So, what I would like to ask is if the "T" is mandatory for RFC 3339
> conformance or not?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> F. Alexander Njemz
>
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From: F. Alexander Njemz <f.alexander.njemz@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:55:36 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] date: fixed rfc-3339 format strings
* src/date.c (main): Insert a 'T' between date and time in rfc-3339
format strings as specified by the rfc.
---
src/date.c | 4 ++--
1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/date.c b/src/date.c
index c39adb1..daeaf0d 100644
--- a/src/date.c
+++ b/src/date.c
@@ -343,8 +343,8 @@ main (int argc, char **argv)
static char const rfc_3339_format[][32] =
{
"%Y-%m-%d",
- "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S%:z",
- "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S.%N%:z"
+ "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%:z",
+ "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%N%:z"
};
enum Time_spec i =
XARGMATCH ("--rfc-3339", optarg,
--
1.7.0.4
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On 05/07/2010 07:25 AM, F. Alexander Njemz wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> as evidenced here [1] the slightly ambiguous wording in the RFC 3339 [2=
]
> seems to be the reason that the date utility using the
> --rfc3339=3DTIMESPEC switch formats the date with a space instead of a =
'T'.
>=20
> I was confused as well, so I took the liberty to mail the authors of th=
e
> RFC in question. I attached the reply from Mr. Klyne.
>=20
> There is also a patch attached.
Thanks for the report, and also for the patch. However, I'm reluctant
to create a date format that we cannot then reparse. So before we apply
this patch, we would first need a patch to gnulib's getdate.y that
allows parsing of an rfc3339 style with a 'T' instead of a space.
--=20
Eric Blake eblake@HIDDEN +1-801-349-2682
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On 05/07/2010 05:55 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 05/07/2010 07:25 AM, F. Alexander Njemz wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> as evidenced here [1] the slightly ambiguous wording in the RFC 3339 [2]
>> seems to be the reason that the date utility using the
>> --rfc3339=TIMESPEC switch formats the date with a space instead of a 'T'.
>>
>> I was confused as well, so I took the liberty to mail the authors of the
>> RFC in question. I attached the reply from Mr. Klyne.
>>
>> There is also a patch attached.
>>
> Thanks for the report, and also for the patch. However, I'm reluctant
> to create a date format that we cannot then reparse. So before we apply
> this patch, we would first need a patch to gnulib's getdate.y that
> allows parsing of an rfc3339 style with a 'T' instead of a space.
>
>
Hi Mr. Blake, hi mailing list,
I'm looking into getdate.y.
Mr. Newman has replied as well (see attachment).
I don't think Mr. Newman's mail applies to the date command, since IMHO
date returns a
single field.
What do you think?
Regards,
F. Alexander Njemz
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From: Chris Newman <chris.newman@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: rfc3339 is the T mandatory?
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If you're representing the date and time as a single field, then the "T" is
necessary for compliance with RFC 3339 as Graham stated.
If you're using a multi-field representation where date and time are
separate fields, then the field delimiter depends on your higher level
field-encoding format. In this case you would reference the full-date and
full-time syntax elements from section 5.6 separately (instead of
referencing the date-time syntax) and would be compliant with RFC 3339 if
you were compliant with those elements.
- Chris
--On May 7, 2010 13:05:41 +0100 Graham Klyne <GK@HIDDEN> wrote:
> In short: "yes"
>
> Per section 5.5, the intent in this draft was to specify a timestamp
> format using elements from and compatible with 8601, but eliminating as
> far as reasonable any variations that could make timestamp data harder to
> process. This includes making the 'T' mandatory in date+time values.
>
># g
> --
>
> F. Alexander Njemz wrote:
>> Dear Sirs,
>>
>> there seems to be some confusion about the interpretation of the
>> following passages
>> of RFC 3339:
>> in section 5.6:
>> NOTE: ISO 8601 defines date and time separated by "T".
>> Applications using this syntax may choose, for the sake of
>> readability, to specify a full-date and full-time separated by
>> (say) a space character.
>> and in Appendix A:
>> ISO 8601 states that the "T" may be omitted under some
>> circumstances. This grammar requires the "T" to avoid ambiguity.
>>
>> So, what I would like to ask is if the "T" is mandatory for RFC 3339
>> conformance or not?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> F. Alexander Njemz
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