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Tue, 18 Apr 2023 07:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5cb99a2d-016e-201d-ba4d-027b16aae7cc@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 14:05:27 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <66e8b8a4-fa14-800e-659c-d8db1134d71a@HIDDEN> <83r0skbc20.fsf@HIDDEN> <23d8f88d-c694-faa0-93f6-1a282443b27d@HIDDEN> <83cz44asoz.fsf@HIDDEN> <7d0c9615-a5ae-651d-dab5-ba767454b7bf@HIDDEN> <83354zbxmq.fsf@HIDDEN> <73ca92d3-bdd8-4d78-a4b1-ac7263db79c8@HIDDEN> <83y1mracgg.fsf@HIDDEN> <8dc8e984-d450-cd43-5b64-4be552e88192@HIDDEN> <83jzyb9r3l.fsf@HIDDEN> <173d7dfc-6454-4e81-6f62-bef69a829f18@HIDDEN> <87bkjmgegf.fsf@HIDDEN> <500fd02e-3392-079b-6b62-4872d1a0ac1a@HIDDEN> <877cu98yi7.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <877cu98yi7.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 18/04/2023 10:01, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Apr 18 2023, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > >> Reminder: ae4ff4f25fbf doesn't build without 9510e8ad682 (and is its >> parent). >> >> Reverting 9510e8ad682 doesn't quite work, at least not too easily: > ae4ff4f25fbf reverts cleanly alone without 9510e8ad682, since the latter > just adds the files that are used by the former. Good point, thanks. So yes, I can confirm: 'git revert ae4ff4f25fbf; make' improves the situation.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ca181e093e350955137c8604d46726ab; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 02:12:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <500fd02e-3392-079b-6b62-4872d1a0ac1a@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2023 04:43:33 +0300") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <66e8b8a4-fa14-800e-659c-d8db1134d71a@HIDDEN> <83r0skbc20.fsf@HIDDEN> <23d8f88d-c694-faa0-93f6-1a282443b27d@HIDDEN> <83cz44asoz.fsf@HIDDEN> <7d0c9615-a5ae-651d-dab5-ba767454b7bf@HIDDEN> <83354zbxmq.fsf@HIDDEN> <73ca92d3-bdd8-4d78-a4b1-ac7263db79c8@HIDDEN> <83y1mracgg.fsf@HIDDEN> <8dc8e984-d450-cd43-5b64-4be552e88192@HIDDEN> <83jzyb9r3l.fsf@HIDDEN> <173d7dfc-6454-4e81-6f62-bef69a829f18@HIDDEN> <87bkjmgegf.fsf@HIDDEN> <500fd02e-3392-079b-6b62-4872d1a0ac1a@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 10:12:22 +0800 Message-ID: <877cuagcqh.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 224 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Should I still try reverting the commits on top of the current master? Yes, please try that. > Perhaps you can provide a patch to try? Unfortunately, I'm too busy at the moment.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 18/04/2023 04:35, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: > What if you only revert this commit on top of master? This change should > not affect redisplay at all, as it only adds additional mechanisms for > talking with the input method. Reminder: ae4ff4f25fbf doesn't build without 9510e8ad682 (and is its parent). Reverting 9510e8ad682 doesn't quite work, at least not too easily: $ git revert 9510e8ad682 CONFLICT (modify/delete): src/textconv.c deleted in parent of 9510e8ad682 (Check in new files) and modified in HEAD. Version HEAD of src/textconv.c left in tree. error: could not revert 9510e8ad682... Check in new files hint: After resolving the conflicts, mark them with hint: "git add/rm <pathspec>", then run hint: "git revert --continue". hint: You can instead skip this commit with "git revert --skip". hint: To abort and get back to the state before "git revert", hint: run "git revert --abort". And I also tested (and re-tested, several times) the parent of ae4ff4f25fbf, which (almost) doesn't have the described problem. Should I still try reverting the commits on top of the current master? Perhaps you can provide a patch to try?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c8dc00a060b578d331e0d2349aa3347f; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 01:35:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <173d7dfc-6454-4e81-6f62-bef69a829f18@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 18 Apr 2023 02:07:07 +0300") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <66e8b8a4-fa14-800e-659c-d8db1134d71a@HIDDEN> <83r0skbc20.fsf@HIDDEN> <23d8f88d-c694-faa0-93f6-1a282443b27d@HIDDEN> <83cz44asoz.fsf@HIDDEN> <7d0c9615-a5ae-651d-dab5-ba767454b7bf@HIDDEN> <83354zbxmq.fsf@HIDDEN> <73ca92d3-bdd8-4d78-a4b1-ac7263db79c8@HIDDEN> <83y1mracgg.fsf@HIDDEN> <8dc8e984-d450-cd43-5b64-4be552e88192@HIDDEN> <83jzyb9r3l.fsf@HIDDEN> <173d7dfc-6454-4e81-6f62-bef69a829f18@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:35:12 +0800 Message-ID: <87bkjmgegf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 2130 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Finished now. It was a pain because the offending commit predated the > two commits that fixed the build without XDBE (4dc1f2b9a01e and > f1c838980601), so I had to dump them as patch files and apply when > building older commits. > > ae4ff4f25fbf704446f8f38d8e818f223b79042b is the first bad commit > commit ae4ff4f25fbf704446f8f38d8e818f223b79042b > Author: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun Feb 12 19:55:28 2023 +0800 > > Support input method ``text conversion'' on X Windows > > * configure.ac (HAVE_TEXT_CONVERSION): Define on X. > * etc/NEWS: Announce new change. > * src/emacs.c (main): Always call init_xterm. > * src/frame.c (do_switch_frame): Use `fset_selected_window'. > * src/insdel.c (struct safe_del_range_context): New structure. > (safe_del_range_1, safe_del_range_2, safe_del_range): New > functions. > * src/lisp.h: Export new functions. > * src/window.c (run_window_change_functions): Report selected > window and buffer changes so that the input method can be reset. > * src/xfns.c (XICCallback, Xxic_preedit_caret_callback) > (Xxic_preedit_done_callback, Xxic_preedit_start_callback) > (Xxic_preedit_draw_callback): Fix coding style. > (Xxic_string_conversion_callback): New callback. > (create_frame_xic): Register string conversion callback. > (struct x_xim_text_conversion_data): New field `size'. > (x_encode_xim_text_1, x_encode_xim_text): New functions. > (xic_string_conversion_callback): New function. > * src/xterm.c (x_reset_conversion): New function. > (text_conversion_interface): New variable. > (init_xterm): Initialize text conversion interface. > > (Together with the next one, 9510e8ad68271f58b4, which it doesn't > build without). > > I've double checked that 9510e8ad682 exhibits the problem (with Lucid > and xdbe=off), whereas ae4ff4f25fbf's parent (50140585a29) does not. What if you only revert this commit on top of master? This change should not affect redisplay at all, as it only adds additional mechanisms for talking with the input method.
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On 17/04/2023 05:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 00:17:45 +0300
>> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>>
>> I was kind of expecting xargs to know MS-Windows' command line limits,
>> i.e. from its manual:
>>
>> The largest allowed
>> value is system-dependent, and is calculated as
>> the argument length limit for exec, less the size of your environment,
>> less 2048 bytes of headroom. ... xargs automatically adapts to tighter
>> constraints.
>
> Suggest to take this up with the developers of GNU Findutils.
I imagine they'd prefer a report from somebody using the platform, who
can follow up with details and so on.
Anyway, if the bug is there, we can of course work around it.
Does this work?
BTW, it seems like grep-compute-defaults should also insert '-s 10000'
somewhere when xargs is used. Or is it usually not used on Windows?
diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/xref.el b/lisp/progmodes/xref.el
index d77024136d0..10b32fa629d 100644
--- a/lisp/progmodes/xref.el
+++ b/lisp/progmodes/xref.el
@@ -1820,16 +1820,22 @@ xref-matches-in-directory
;; Ripgrep gets jumbled output, though, even with --line-buffered.
;; But Grep seems to be stable. Even without --line-buffered.
(defcustom xref-search-program-alist
- '((grep
- .
- ;; '-s' because 'git ls-files' can output broken symlinks.
- "xargs -0 grep <C> --null -snHE -e <R>")
- (ripgrep
- .
- ;; '!*/' is there to filter out dirs (e.g. submodules).
- "xargs -0 rg <C> --null -nH --no-heading --no-messages -g '!*/' -e
<R>"
- )
- (ugrep . "xargs -0 ugrep <C> --null -ns -e <R>"))
+ (let ((xargs-max-chars
+ (and (memq system-type '(windows-nt ms-dos))
+ "-s 10000 ")))
+ `((grep
+ .
+ ;; '-s' because 'git ls-files' can output broken symlinks.
+ ,(concat "xargs -0 " xargs-max-chars "grep <C> --null -snHE -e
<R>"))
+ (ripgrep
+ .
+ ;; '!*/' is there to filter out dirs (e.g. submodules).
+ ,(concat "xargs -0 "
+ xargs-max-chars
+ "rg <C> --null -nH --no-heading --no-messages -g '!*/'
-e <R>"))
+ (ugrep
+ .
+ ,(concat "xargs -0 " xargs-max-chars "ugrep <C> --null -ns -e
<R>"))))
"Association list mapping program identifiers to command templates.
Program identifier should be a symbol, named after the search program.
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Correction: 50140585a29 can exhibit the problem too, but like once every 100 tries or so. So I guess my previous one-off observations on emacs-29 and emacs-28 might have been correct. But the next two commits (ae4ff4f25fb and 9510e8ad682), and all subsequent ones so far, reproduce the problem ~once every 5 tries.
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On 17/04/2023 05:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:26:28 +0300
>> Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>>
>>> Dmitry, does this happen with Emacs 28?
>>
>> Actually, this one might be a master-only problem.
>
> I wasn't aware of that; the Subject says 29. I tried on the release
> branch and in the installed 29.0.90.
The behavior is very similar to the one originally reported in this bug.
At first the news was that the Lucid build doesn't help (on emacs-29 or
master), because this scenario manifests when using it.
Then I've tried a build with xdbe=off, and now I can't quite remember
from which branch it was. When doing subsequent testing, I think I've
seen this problem once (probably just once) on branches emacs-29 and
emacs-28, but neither was repeatable, so we might chalk that up to my
faulty memory/cognition.
>> But it's pretty easy to repro on master. I'll try to bisect and report back.
Finished now. It was a pain because the offending commit predated the
two commits that fixed the build without XDBE (4dc1f2b9a01e and
f1c838980601), so I had to dump them as patch files and apply when
building older commits.
ae4ff4f25fbf704446f8f38d8e818f223b79042b is the first bad commit
commit ae4ff4f25fbf704446f8f38d8e818f223b79042b
Author: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
Date: Sun Feb 12 19:55:28 2023 +0800
Support input method ``text conversion'' on X Windows
* configure.ac (HAVE_TEXT_CONVERSION): Define on X.
* etc/NEWS: Announce new change.
* src/emacs.c (main): Always call init_xterm.
* src/frame.c (do_switch_frame): Use `fset_selected_window'.
* src/insdel.c (struct safe_del_range_context): New structure.
(safe_del_range_1, safe_del_range_2, safe_del_range): New
functions.
* src/lisp.h: Export new functions.
* src/window.c (run_window_change_functions): Report selected
window and buffer changes so that the input method can be reset.
* src/xfns.c (XICCallback, Xxic_preedit_caret_callback)
(Xxic_preedit_done_callback, Xxic_preedit_start_callback)
(Xxic_preedit_draw_callback): Fix coding style.
(Xxic_string_conversion_callback): New callback.
(create_frame_xic): Register string conversion callback.
(struct x_xim_text_conversion_data): New field `size'.
(x_encode_xim_text_1, x_encode_xim_text): New functions.
(xic_string_conversion_callback): New function.
* src/xterm.c (x_reset_conversion): New function.
(text_conversion_interface): New variable.
(init_xterm): Initialize text conversion interface.
(Together with the next one, 9510e8ad68271f58b4, which it doesn't build
without).
I've double checked that 9510e8ad682 exhibits the problem (with Lucid
and xdbe=off), whereas ae4ff4f25fbf's parent (50140585a29) does not.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 16/04/2023 21:50, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:46:39 +0300 >> From: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@HIDDEN> >> >> When you say "gets updated noticeably faster", what exactly do you >> mean? by how much time does the redraw of the windows lag after the >> title bar update? >> >> Can be on the order of seconds or indefinitely, just like described before. > > That's strange. Po Lu, what could prevent the results of rdisplay > from appearing on the glass in this case? AFAIR, we simply call > XFlush when the update of the frame is done; we don't wait for any X > event to trigger redrawing on the glass. > > Dmitry, does this happen with Emacs 28? Actually, this one might be a master-only problem. At least, I'm currently unable to reproduce this with emacs-29, and (probably) saw this only once on emacs-28, out of >50 tries. All with Lucid and xdbe=off. But it's pretty easy to repro on master. I'll try to bisect and report back. BTW, I forgot one step which is possibly necessary for reproduction (step 1.5): maximize the frame.
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On 16/04/2023 22:01, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> This xargs command:
>
> '((grep
> .
> ;; '-s' because 'git ls-files' can output broken symlinks.
> "xargs -0 grep <C> --null -snHE -e <R>")
>
> is not portable: it assumes that there's no limit to the size of shell
> commands that xargs can pass to Grep. At least on MS-Windows, you
> need to use something like "xargs -0 -s 10000 grep ..." instead.
Thank you. Too bad nobody has reported this in the last several years
(we've been using this 'xargs ... grep' scheme since before the
introduction of xref-matches-in-files in 2019).
I was kind of expecting xargs to know MS-Windows' command line limits,
i.e. from its manual:
The largest allowed
value is system-dependent, and is calculated as
the argument length limit for exec, less the size of your environment,
less 2048 bytes of headroom. ... xargs automatically adapts to tighter
constraints.
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> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:47:42 +0300
> From: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@HIDDEN>
> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
>
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:14:24 +0300
> > From: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
> >
> > 'C-x p g' doesn't find any matches for this input? That's odd.
>
> Which external commands it is supposed to run?
>
> External? 'git ls-files' followed by piping the list to 'grep'.
This xargs command:
'((grep
.
;; '-s' because 'git ls-files' can output broken symlinks.
"xargs -0 grep <C> --null -snHE -e <R>")
is not portable: it assumes that there's no limit to the size of shell
commands that xargs can pass to Grep. At least on MS-Windows, you
need to use something like "xargs -0 -s 10000 grep ..." instead.
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To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay
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> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:14:24 +0300
>> > From: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>> > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
>> >
>> > 'C-x p g' doesn't find any matches for this input? That's odd.
>>
>> Which external commands it is supposed to run?
> External? 'git ls-files' followed by piping the list to 'grep'.
Piping using 'xargs', that is.
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pr 16, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D=
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tov@HIDDEN">dgutov@HIDDEN</a>><br></div><div>> Cc: <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:luangruo@HIDDEN">luangruo@HIDDEN</a>, <a href=3D=
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nput? That's odd.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Which external commands i=
t is supposed to run?<br></div></blockquote><div>External? 'git ls-files=
' followed by piping the list to 'grep'.<br></div></blockquote><div>Pipi=
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> > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
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> > 'C-x p g' doesn't find any matches for this input? That's odd.
>
> Which external commands it is supposed to run?
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:46:39 +0300
From: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@HIDDEN>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay
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On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, at 7:27 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:08:26 +0300
> > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
> > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
> >
> > 1. 'emacs -Q', disable stuff.
> > 2. 'C-x p f', visit lisp/emacs-lisp/smie.el.
> > 3. Search for something rare using 'C-x p g' (e.g. for "Coq-specific",
> > but not necessarily).
> > 4. Press 'q' to exit the search.
> >
> > On step 3 or 4, the title bar will get updated noticeably faster than
> > the frame configuration changes.
>
> When you say "gets updated noticeably faster", what exactly do you
> mean? by how much time does the redraw of the windows lag after the
> title bar update?
Can be on the order of seconds or indefinitely, just like described before.
> It is normal for the frame's title to be updated first, because Emacs
> redraws it early during a redisplay cycle.
It's not usually noticeable with the naked eye.
> Only after that, the
> display engine examines all the windows and redraws whatever needs to
> be updated. So it could take some short time between the two, perhaps
> more if the redisplay of windows requires to redraw a lot. However,
> in your original message today you seemed to say that the windows are
> not updated unless you press something like C-n, and that should not
> happen. Did I misunderstand your original report?
No, you got it right.
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n, 16 Apr 2023 16:08:26 +0300<br></div><div>> Cc: <a href=3D"mai=
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>><br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> 1. 'emacs -Q', disable=
stuff.<br></div><div>> 2. 'C-x p f', visit lisp/emacs-lisp/smie.el.<=
br></div><div>> 3. Search for something rare using 'C-x p g' (e.g. fo=
r "Coq-specific", <br></div><div>> but not necessarily).<br></di=
v><div>> 4. Press 'q' to exit the search.<br></div><div>> <br=
></div><div>> On step 3 or 4, the title bar will get updated noticeab=
ly faster than <br></div><div>> the frame configuration changes.=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>When you say "gets updated noticeably fast=
er", what exactly do you<br></div><div>mean? by how much time does the r=
edraw of the windows lag after the<br></div><div>title bar update?<br></=
div></blockquote><div>Can be on the order of seconds or indefinitely, ju=
st like described before.</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt" style=
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se Emacs<br></div><div>redraws it early during a redisplay cycle. <=
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e.</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div> Only after =
that, the<br></div><div>display engine examines all the windows and redr=
aws whatever needs to<br></div><div>be updated. So it could take s=
ome short time between the two, perhaps<br></div><div>more if the redisp=
lay of windows requires to redraw a lot. However,<br></div><div>in=
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/div><div>not updated unless you press something like C-n, and that shou=
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:14:24 +0300
From: "Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@HIDDEN>
To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay
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On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, at 7:17 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:08:26 +0300
> > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
> > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
> >
> > 1. 'emacs -Q', disable stuff.
> > 2. 'C-x p f', visit lisp/emacs-lisp/smie.el.
> > 3. Search for something rare using 'C-x p g' (e.g. for "Coq-specific",
> > but not necessarily).
> > 4. Press 'q' to exit the search.
>
> There's something missing in these steps, or maybe you assume some
> setup that I don't have here. For step 2, what do you mean by
> "lisp/emacs-lisp/smie.el"? "C-x p f" prompts for input, what do I
> type at the prompt?
You use 'C-x p f' to visit smie.el, sp type either its base or the full relative name. It's probably not important how you visit it, might as well use 'C-x C-f' instead.
> Step 3 yields "no matches" here, although I
> definitely see "Coq-specific" in smie.el, so what gives?
'C-x p g' doesn't find any matches for this input? That's odd.
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Dmitry Gutov <<a href=3D"mailto:dgutov@HIDDEN" class=3D"">dgutov@y=
andex.ru</a>><br></div><div>> <br></div><div>> 1. 'emacs -=
Q', disable stuff.<br></div><div>> 2. 'C-x p f', visit lisp/emacs-lis=
p/smie.el.<br></div><div>> 3. Search for something rare using 'C-x p =
g' (e.g. for "Coq-specific", <br></div><div>> but not necessaril=
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r></div><div>There's something missing in these steps, or maybe you assu=
me some<br></div><div>setup that I don't have here. For step 2, wh=
at do you mean by<br></div><div>"lisp/emacs-lisp/smie.el"? "C-x p =
f" prompts for input, what do I<br></div><div>type at the prompt?<br></d=
iv></blockquote><div>You use 'C-x p f' to visit smie.el, sp type either =
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Sun, 16 Apr 2023 09:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7d0c9615-a5ae-651d-dab5-ba767454b7bf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:08:26 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <66e8b8a4-fa14-800e-659c-d8db1134d71a@HIDDEN> <83r0skbc20.fsf@HIDDEN> <23d8f88d-c694-faa0-93f6-1a282443b27d@HIDDEN> <83cz44asoz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83cz44asoz.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 16/04/2023 15:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:52:51 +0300 >> Cc:luangruo@HIDDEN,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,gregory@HIDDEN >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> >> >> On 16/04/2023 09:01, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:48:56 +0300 >>>> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> >>>> Cc: Gregory Heytings<gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN>, >>>> Po Lu<luangruo@HIDDEN> >>>> >>>> - Do some search using 'C-x p g', wait to see the results buffer >>>> displayed but it's not displayed for a while. I look at the title bar - >>>> and it already says*xref*, but the frame is still not updated. If I >>>> press something like 'C-n' or 'C-f' now, that triggers the necessary >>>> refresh. >>>> >>>> - When the said Xref buffers is selected, I press 'q'. Likewise, the >>>> frame might not get updated for a while, still showing the previous >>>> window configuration until I issue the next command. >>>> >>>> These are of course random and don't happen every time. Often enough to >>>> be annoying, though. >>> Is this with or without double-buffering? If it's with >>> double-buffering, do the problems go away if you disable >>> double-buffering? >> Good question: the above failure scenario reproduces even without XDBE. >> The frequency is about the same as with XDBE. > Thanks. Next question: does it reproduce easily in "emacs -Q"? It does. As soon as I disable scroll-bar-mode, menu-bar-mode, tool-bar-mode and blink-cursor-mode. It goes like this: 1. 'emacs -Q', disable stuff. 2. 'C-x p f', visit lisp/emacs-lisp/smie.el. 3. Search for something rare using 'C-x p g' (e.g. for "Coq-specific", but not necessarily). 4. Press 'q' to exit the search. On step 3 or 4, the title bar will get updated noticeably faster than the frame configuration changes.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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I look at the title bar - > >> and it already says*xref*, but the frame is still not updated. If I > >> press something like 'C-n' or 'C-f' now, that triggers the necessary > >> refresh. > >> > >> - When the said Xref buffers is selected, I press 'q'. Likewise, the > >> frame might not get updated for a while, still showing the previous > >> window configuration until I issue the next command. > >> > >> These are of course random and don't happen every time. Often enough to > >> be annoying, though. > > Is this with or without double-buffering? If it's with > > double-buffering, do the problems go away if you disable > > double-buffering? > > Good question: the above failure scenario reproduces even without XDBE. > The frequency is about the same as with XDBE. Thanks. Next question: does it reproduce easily in "emacs -Q"?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On 16/04/2023 09:01, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:48:56 +0300 >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> >> Cc: Gregory Heytings<gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN>, >> Po Lu<luangruo@HIDDEN> >> >> - Do some search using 'C-x p g', wait to see the results buffer >> displayed but it's not displayed for a while. I look at the title bar - >> and it already says*xref*, but the frame is still not updated. If I >> press something like 'C-n' or 'C-f' now, that triggers the necessary >> refresh. >> >> - When the said Xref buffers is selected, I press 'q'. Likewise, the >> frame might not get updated for a while, still showing the previous >> window configuration until I issue the next command. >> >> These are of course random and don't happen every time. Often enough to >> be annoying, though. > Is this with or without double-buffering? If it's with > double-buffering, do the problems go away if you disable > double-buffering? Good question: the above failure scenario reproduces even without XDBE. The frequency is about the same as with XDBE.
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Life update: I've tried switching to a Lucid build for regular work. While the test scenarios that I've shown so far fail to reproduce with it, I'm seeing very similar problems. Examples: - Do some search using 'C-x p g', wait to see the results buffer displayed but it's not displayed for a while. I look at the title bar - and it already says *xref*, but the frame is still not updated. If I press something like 'C-n' or 'C-f' now, that triggers the necessary refresh. - When the said Xref buffers is selected, I press 'q'. Likewise, the frame might not get updated for a while, still showing the previous window configuration until I issue the next command. These are of course random and don't happen every time. Often enough to be annoying, though.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 04/03/2023 14:45, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 04/03/2023 02:22, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> On 04/03/2023 02:01, Po Lu wrote: >>>> But there is a persistent glitch: when the window configuration >>>> changes, 1 or 2 vertical bars often flash: >>>> >>>> https://a.uguu.se/iYTlOftH.mp4 (with emacs -Q) >>>> >>>> https://a.uguu.se/YdDWpMid.mp4 (with my config but with tool-bar and >>>> scroll-bar modes enabled) >>>> >>>> scroll-bar-mode on seems to be required to reproduce this. >>> This is expected: moving the scroll bar causes exposures, which can >>> cause flickering. That's the problem double buffering is supposed to >>> fix. >> >> Isn't it odd, though, that in both cases the glitch is positioned >> around 1/2 of the scroll-bar's horizontal coordinate (relative to the >> left edge of the frame)? When there is one scroll-bar, there is one >> glitch; when there are two scroll-bars, there are two glitches. >> >> My guess is that might be related to the display scale (2x). > > And indeed: when I change the display scaling to 1x (no scaling), the > "flashes" occur exactly above the scrollbars. Which looks significantly > less jarring. > > This seems like something we should be able to fix, if we're going to > recommend disabling double-buffering as a fix for this and other problems. If anybody has ideas how to avoid scrollbars being briefly drawn at the wrong position with 2x display and disabled xdbe, that could be an improvement as well. If not for me, then for the next GNOME user advised to disable double buffering.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 12/03/2023 14:19, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Thanks. When trying to run a separate Xorg, at first it failed with no >> access to some tty, and then (with sudo) brought down my existing >> Xorg. 😂 >> >> But when I rebooted, Xfce suddenly started working without extra help. >> >> I've tried several dozens of times and couldn't reproduce the problem >> in it. All I can add about that is two things: >> >> 1. It has some broken handling of scaling. When set to 1, most things >> (but not all, e.g. not the titlebar buttons, I think) have the same >> size as I have in GNOME at 2x scaling. And when I set scaling to 2, >> everything becomes tiny. >> >> 2. Emacs starts up faster than under WindowMaker or E, but still a >> little slower than under GNOME. The startup looks a little different, >> too: if you have some of my older videos saved, you can see it >> blinking with the scrollbar. Under Xfce, OTOH, I can't see that >> blinking, and overall the startup looks something like additionally >> buffered: less jittery, but a tiny bit slower as a result. > Different window managers behave differently upon first managing a > window, so I'm not too surprised by these differences. > > I'm out of ideas here, but everything so far points at this being a > GNOME bug. Which I can't reproduce, likely due to the difference in > display and graphics hardware between my system and yours. > >> Whatever the reasons is, it could affect later frame flipping as well. > I doubt this, since by the time the initial window configuration > finishes, Emacs should be in the same state under any window manager. > > I'm sorry I couldn't help. All right, thanks for trying.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4fde5036a7cf13e8c786c22ad30cdb5c; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:19:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <d9fb9209-46b9-8e5d-44cf-04ec188319ef@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 12 Mar 2023 14:15:14 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <ebeec9d3-c59e-9d90-314d-96a1ce3fb234@HIDDEN> <877cvmd70n.fsf@HIDDEN> <d9fb9209-46b9-8e5d-44cf-04ec188319ef@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 20:19:14 +0800 Message-ID: <87o7oy9n7h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21284 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1596 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Thanks. When trying to run a separate Xorg, at first it failed with no > access to some tty, and then (with sudo) brought down my existing > Xorg. :-D > > But when I rebooted, Xfce suddenly started working without extra help. > > I've tried several dozens of times and couldn't reproduce the problem > in it. All I can add about that is two things: > > 1. It has some broken handling of scaling. When set to 1, most things > (but not all, e.g. not the titlebar buttons, I think) have the same > size as I have in GNOME at 2x scaling. And when I set scaling to 2, > everything becomes tiny. > > 2. Emacs starts up faster than under WindowMaker or E, but still a > little slower than under GNOME. The startup looks a little different, > too: if you have some of my older videos saved, you can see it > blinking with the scrollbar. Under Xfce, OTOH, I can't see that > blinking, and overall the startup looks something like additionally > buffered: less jittery, but a tiny bit slower as a result. Different window managers behave differently upon first managing a window, so I'm not too surprised by these differences. I'm out of ideas here, but everything so far points at this being a GNOME bug. Which I can't reproduce, likely due to the difference in display and graphics hardware between my system and yours. > Whatever the reasons is, it could affect later frame flipping as well. I doubt this, since by the time the initial window configuration finishes, Emacs should be in the same state under any window manager. I'm sorry I couldn't help.
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Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([85.132.229.92]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a18-20020adffad2000000b002ceb7a11eb9sm510442wrs.42.2023.03.12.05.15.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <d9fb9209-46b9-8e5d-44cf-04ec188319ef@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 14:15:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <ebeec9d3-c59e-9d90-314d-96a1ce3fb234@HIDDEN> <877cvmd70n.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <877cvmd70n.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 12/03/2023 04:43, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >>> Tried again with WindowMaker, couldn't reproduce there still. It's >>> still working kind of sluggishly, though. Also tried installing >>> Xfce4, but there seems to be some integration problem: it's not >>> possible to log into it from GDM (journalctl shows some errors about >>> it trying to launch its own session manager and failing because of >>> GDM already running). >>> I've also tried to reproduce the error with a Lucid build of Emacs >>> 29 under GNOME -- never hit the problem once. > > Yes, it did vanish into the infinite black hole that is this email > provider's automatic filtering. > > Xfwm can be run by hand with its compositor enabled. Perhaps if you > start: > > Xorg :1 > > then run: > > xfwm4 -c --display :1, you will have better luck. Thanks. When trying to run a separate Xorg, at first it failed with no access to some tty, and then (with sudo) brought down my existing Xorg. :-D But when I rebooted, Xfce suddenly started working without extra help. I've tried several dozens of times and couldn't reproduce the problem in it. All I can add about that is two things: 1. It has some broken handling of scaling. When set to 1, most things (but not all, e.g. not the titlebar buttons, I think) have the same size as I have in GNOME at 2x scaling. And when I set scaling to 2, everything becomes tiny. 2. Emacs starts up faster than under WindowMaker or E, but still a little slower than under GNOME. The startup looks a little different, too: if you have some of my older videos saved, you can see it blinking with the scrollbar. Under Xfce, OTOH, I can't see that blinking, and overall the startup looks something like additionally buffered: less jittery, but a tiny bit slower as a result. Whatever the reasons is, it could affect later frame flipping as well. https://a.uguu.se/jzgYlBHd.mp4
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7550a17a8aa4edbfa97561a5a3ebcdd4; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 02:43:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <ebeec9d3-c59e-9d90-314d-96a1ce3fb234@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 12 Mar 2023 04:27:53 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> <ebeec9d3-c59e-9d90-314d-96a1ce3fb234@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 10:43:04 +0800 Message-ID: <877cvmd70n.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21161 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 783 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >> Tried again with WindowMaker, couldn't reproduce there still. It's >> still working kind of sluggishly, though. Also tried installing >> Xfce4, but there seems to be some integration problem: it's not >> possible to log into it from GDM (journalctl shows some errors about >> it trying to launch its own session manager and failing because of >> GDM already running). >> I've also tried to reproduce the error with a Lucid build of Emacs >> 29 under GNOME -- never hit the problem once. Yes, it did vanish into the infinite black hole that is this email provider's automatic filtering. Xfwm can be run by hand with its compositor enabled. Perhaps if you start: Xorg :1 then run: xfwm4 -c --display :1, you will have better luck.
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Sat, 11 Mar 2023 18:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([85.132.229.92]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id l14-20020a05600c2cce00b003df7b40f99fsm4578961wmc.11.2023.03.11.18.27.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Mar 2023 18:27:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <ebeec9d3-c59e-9d90-314d-96a1ce3fb234@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 04:27:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <e76bdf9c-7fd9-a3b8-aa0b-526881a403e8@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Hi Po, Just wanted to make sure you got this email, and that it didn't get "hidden" by the next one. If you have any further ideas for debugging, I'm happy to do that. Reproducing it can still be a pain, e.g. this time around I spend a couple of minutes wondering whether a recent update to Xorg fixed everything, but then it started appearing again, with same regularity. On 03/03/2023 15:44, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 03/03/2023 02:54, Po Lu wrote: > >>> So I went back to the previous Emacs versions. >>> >>> This MRE: >>> >>> src/emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" >>> --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda >>> () (interactive) (insert \"!\") (redisplay) (find-file >>> \"xassociations.rb\") ))" --eval "(add-hook 'find-file-hook >>> #'redisplay t)" --eval "(blink-cursor-mode -1 )" --eval "(setq >>> frame-title-format \"aaa\")" >>> >>> Press 'a'. See if the buffer is displayed after a delay. >> >> Could you send me xassociations.rb? I can't reproduce this with any >> file of my own. > > Attached, though this doesn't seem to depend on the exact file. E.g., I > reproduced this bug (indefinitely delayed refresh) just today with > src/alloc.c a few times. > >>> --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((undecorated . t)))", OTOH, we >>> can also cross out from the list of fixes: the problem still happens >>> with it, though seemingly less often (first repro at the 15th try). >> >> OK, thanks. Damned blink-cursor-mode! Does the frame still refresh >> when you hover over the title bar buttons? > > If there is a title bar, and there are buttons, yes, always. > > Also, sometimes the frame refreshes right away as soon as I move the > mouse over its border. Sometimes, however, I can move the mouse over it > for a while, and refresh happens only when hovering over the title bar > buttons. Or over the mode-line. Or pressing some button on the keyboard, > of course. > >> Also, since we now know blink-cursor-mode was previously screwing with >> the results, would you please try some other window manager again and >> see if the problem reproduces without GNOME? > > Tried again with WindowMaker, couldn't reproduce there still. It's still > working kind of sluggishly, though. Also tried installing Xfce4, but > there seems to be some integration problem: it's not possible to log > into it from GDM (journalctl shows some errors about it trying to launch > its own session manager and failing because of GDM already running). > > I've also tried to reproduce the error with a Lucid build of Emacs 29 > under GNOME -- never hit the problem once.
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Sat, 04 Mar 2023 04:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j2-20020a5d6042000000b002c70d269b4esm4727749wrt.91.2023.03.04.04.45.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Mar 2023 04:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <b2c4ee20-07ad-332e-e1dc-7a1a5c912d83@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 14:45:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ttz3eig2.fsf@HIDDEN> <721a1bb0-c1c6-70a1-02a8-408445e19fde@HIDDEN> <87lekdwfjj.fsf@HIDDEN> <314421f7-3964-572e-8e3a-e31b510fd097@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <314421f7-3964-572e-8e3a-e31b510fd097@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 04/03/2023 02:22, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 04/03/2023 02:01, Po Lu wrote: >>> But there is a persistent glitch: when the window configuration >>> changes, 1 or 2 vertical bars often flash: >>> >>> https://a.uguu.se/iYTlOftH.mp4 (with emacs -Q) >>> >>> https://a.uguu.se/YdDWpMid.mp4 (with my config but with tool-bar and >>> scroll-bar modes enabled) >>> >>> scroll-bar-mode on seems to be required to reproduce this. >> This is expected: moving the scroll bar causes exposures, which can >> cause flickering. That's the problem double buffering is supposed to >> fix. > > Isn't it odd, though, that in both cases the glitch is positioned around > 1/2 of the scroll-bar's horizontal coordinate (relative to the left edge > of the frame)? When there is one scroll-bar, there is one glitch; when > there are two scroll-bars, there are two glitches. > > My guess is that might be related to the display scale (2x). And indeed: when I change the display scaling to 1x (no scaling), the "flashes" occur exactly above the scrollbars. Which looks significantly less jarring. This seems like something we should be able to fix, if we're going to recommend disabling double-buffering as a fix for this and other problems.
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Fri, 03 Mar 2023 16:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m16-20020a056000009000b002be099f78c0sm3410999wrx.69.2023.03.03.16.22.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Mar 2023 16:22:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <314421f7-3964-572e-8e3a-e31b510fd097@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 02:22:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ttz3eig2.fsf@HIDDEN> <721a1bb0-c1c6-70a1-02a8-408445e19fde@HIDDEN> <87lekdwfjj.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87lekdwfjj.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 04/03/2023 02:01, Po Lu wrote: >> But there is a persistent glitch: when the window configuration >> changes, 1 or 2 vertical bars often flash: >> >> https://a.uguu.se/iYTlOftH.mp4 (with emacs -Q) >> >> https://a.uguu.se/YdDWpMid.mp4 (with my config but with tool-bar and >> scroll-bar modes enabled) >> >> scroll-bar-mode on seems to be required to reproduce this. > This is expected: moving the scroll bar causes exposures, which can > cause flickering. That's the problem double buffering is supposed to > fix. Isn't it odd, though, that in both cases the glitch is positioned around 1/2 of the scroll-bar's horizontal coordinate (relative to the left edge of the frame)? When there is one scroll-bar, there is one glitch; when there are two scroll-bars, there are two glitches. My guess is that might be related to the display scale (2x).
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 097d4ed52487771aba1d8d02536d01f5; Sat, 04 Mar 2023 00:01:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <721a1bb0-c1c6-70a1-02a8-408445e19fde@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:28:14 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ttz3eig2.fsf@HIDDEN> <721a1bb0-c1c6-70a1-02a8-408445e19fde@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2023 08:01:20 +0800 Message-ID: <87lekdwfjj.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1505 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > On 02/03/2023 09:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> From: Po Lu<luangruo@HIDDEN> >>> Cc:61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings<gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli >>> Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN> >>> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 12:11:38 +0800 >>> >>> Yes. It sure sounds like a bug in the GNOME compositor now. >>> Have you tried disabling GNOME Shell extensions one by one? Maybe one >>> of them is responsible for this. >> Whether or not we find some workarounds, I think we should add an >> entry to PROBLEMS about this. > > Speaking of disabling double buffering as a workaround: I went back to > my old bug reports related to flickering, which double-buffering aimed > to fix. > > I recompiled the GTK3 build without xdbe -- and still couldn't > reproduce neither bug#12363 (which was admittedly filed on a Windows > system), nor bug#16621. Even with the same font (Fira Code). > > Not sure what changed -- maybe better screen resolution, or a faster > machine. And the DE, libraries' versions, etc. > > But there is a persistent glitch: when the window configuration > changes, 1 or 2 vertical bars often flash: > > https://a.uguu.se/iYTlOftH.mp4 (with emacs -Q) > > https://a.uguu.se/YdDWpMid.mp4 (with my config but with tool-bar and > scroll-bar modes enabled) > > scroll-bar-mode on seems to be required to reproduce this. This is expected: moving the scroll bar causes exposures, which can cause flickering. That's the problem double buffering is supposed to fix.
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Fri, 03 Mar 2023 06:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r9-20020a05600c458900b003e1f6e18c95sm6671446wmo.21.2023.03.03.06.28.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Mar 2023 06:28:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <721a1bb0-c1c6-70a1-02a8-408445e19fde@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:28:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ttz3eig2.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83ttz3eig2.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/03/2023 09:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Po Lu<luangruo@HIDDEN> >> Cc:61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings<gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli >> Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN> >> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 12:11:38 +0800 >> >> Yes. It sure sounds like a bug in the GNOME compositor now. >> Have you tried disabling GNOME Shell extensions one by one? Maybe one >> of them is responsible for this. > Whether or not we find some workarounds, I think we should add an > entry to PROBLEMS about this. Speaking of disabling double buffering as a workaround: I went back to my old bug reports related to flickering, which double-buffering aimed to fix. I recompiled the GTK3 build without xdbe -- and still couldn't reproduce neither bug#12363 (which was admittedly filed on a Windows system), nor bug#16621. Even with the same font (Fira Code). Not sure what changed -- maybe better screen resolution, or a faster machine. And the DE, libraries' versions, etc. But there is a persistent glitch: when the window configuration changes, 1 or 2 vertical bars often flash: https://a.uguu.se/iYTlOftH.mp4 (with emacs -Q) https://a.uguu.se/YdDWpMid.mp4 (with my config but with tool-bar and scroll-bar modes enabled) scroll-bar-mode on seems to be required to reproduce this.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03/03/2023 02:54, Po Lu wrote: >> So I went back to the previous Emacs versions. >> >> This MRE: >> >> src/emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" >> --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda >> () (interactive) (insert \"!\") (redisplay) (find-file >> \"xassociations.rb\") ))" --eval "(add-hook 'find-file-hook >> #'redisplay t)" --eval "(blink-cursor-mode -1 )" --eval "(setq >> frame-title-format \"aaa\")" >> >> Press 'a'. See if the buffer is displayed after a delay. > > Could you send me xassociations.rb? I can't reproduce this with any > file of my own. Attached, though this doesn't seem to depend on the exact file. E.g., I reproduced this bug (indefinitely delayed refresh) just today with src/alloc.c a few times. >> --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((undecorated . t)))", OTOH, we >> can also cross out from the list of fixes: the problem still happens >> with it, though seemingly less often (first repro at the 15th try). > > OK, thanks. Damned blink-cursor-mode! Does the frame still refresh > when you hover over the title bar buttons? If there is a title bar, and there are buttons, yes, always. Also, sometimes the frame refreshes right away as soon as I move the mouse over its border. Sometimes, however, I can move the mouse over it for a while, and refresh happens only when hovering over the title bar buttons. Or over the mode-line. Or pressing some button on the keyboard, of course. > Also, since we now know blink-cursor-mode was previously screwing with > the results, would you please try some other window manager again and > see if the problem reproduces without GNOME? Tried again with WindowMaker, couldn't reproduce there still. It's still working kind of sluggishly, though. Also tried installing Xfce4, but there seems to be some integration problem: it's not possible to log into it from GDM (journalctl shows some errors about it trying to launch its own session manager and failing because of GDM already running). 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I've found long > ago that blink-cursor-mode and global-eldoc-mode get in the way of > debugging and testing various redisplay problems, because they tend to > trigger extra redisplay cycles. > > For an even cleaner environment, I suggest to disable all the timers > that we run by default (see "M-x list-timers"). Timers change how our > main loop behaves, and the routine redisplay calls are part of the > main loop. Thank you, I've added --eval "(global-eldoc-mode -1)" --eval "(show-paren-mode -1)" --eval "(cancel-timer show-paren--idle-timer)" but that didn't seem to affect reproducibility, one way or the other. This left just 2 timers in the list: undo--auto-boundary-timer, and another jit-lock related, both with intervals >0.5s.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2023 07:29:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 03 02:29:56 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59504 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pXzrY-00029q-5d for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2023 02:29:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40092) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pXzrV-00029a-Cu for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2023 02:29:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pXzrM-0007Xi-N2; Fri, 03 Mar 2023 02:29:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=qRNuY88OoM1NraKw01RkVWHmfZgeJsBGn2iRCKjs6q4=; b=FDEGqL4uF1xj hp/6FAu+k8iD8QmqMPYORwBWIDYfN2P+B4oqJZgFDPXh56z0G3N1n4zcF+wu46/cxYtCyt6aarUX3 2T8qq1dGeQy40owsRjDJMF1m4BxC4PYNY8vu1zMaFsltwHwdd+xGvwm+c38jpqL67qPkDYl4BYb+h yFXJn2d62r0oDyI0hrOEHpwZXJJvj1rJ0I7vNA/AeVZ8InfsdgwWt0MxP5RqiyEU5LXZWR18Sttb6 djeMEwhRoRgo3BbWncugeU6C8LRj8Ec00Kd33T8j1A+ynmct088CWUrqC13Yzroao/7aF+TnvPbPZ UqdYhI3Pqu6noq+FrMpkuA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pXzrE-0007y5-2h; Fri, 03 Mar 2023 02:29:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2023 09:29:19 +0200 Message-Id: <83h6v2cmy8.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 03 Mar 2023 08:54:43 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN, dgutov@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Cc: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli > Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2023 08:54:43 +0800 > > Also, since we now know blink-cursor-mode was previously screwing with > the results, would you please try some other window manager again and > see if the problem reproduces without GNOME? For a good measure, also disable global-eldoc-mode. I've found long ago that blink-cursor-mode and global-eldoc-mode get in the way of debugging and testing various redisplay problems, because they tend to trigger extra redisplay cycles. For an even cleaner environment, I suggest to disable all the timers that we run by default (see "M-x list-timers"). Timers change how our main loop behaves, and the routine redisplay calls are part of the main loop.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0834a97ea0dc80492ca743a1044f8c39; Fri, 03 Mar 2023 00:54:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:45:05 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2023 08:54:43 +0800 Message-ID: <874jr2y7qk.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 2650 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > I've done so further investigation. Started with trying to find out > which part of x_set_name_internal causes the problem. Commented out > this or that call, and none seemed to make a difference. > > So I commented out both existing calls to x_set_name_internal: in > x_set_name and x_set_title. Recompiled -- and the problem still > reproduces. > > Then I added --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"aaa\")" to the command > line, which we previously identified as potential fix/workaround -- > the problem _still_ reproduces. The frequency seems to be ~the same as > without it, as long as the x_set_name_internal calls are commented > out. > > With x_set_name_internal not commented out, (setq frame-title-format > "aaa") seems to lower the frequency of the issue, which coupled with > blink-cursor-mode (which was previously on, and which fires timers > over regular intervals) made it rare enough for me to declare the > problem absent. And also this addition, which now seems to make the > problem _more_ likely to happen" > > --eval "(add-hook 'find-file-hook #'redisplay t) > > So I went back to the previous Emacs versions. > > This MRE: > > src/emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" > --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda > () (interactive) (insert \"!\") (redisplay) (find-file > \"xassociations.rb\") ))" --eval "(add-hook 'find-file-hook > #'redisplay t)" --eval "(blink-cursor-mode -1 )" --eval "(setq > frame-title-format \"aaa\")" > > Press 'a'. See if the buffer is displayed after a delay. Could you send me xassociations.rb? I can't reproduce this with any file of my own. > reproduces (though a little less frequently) in Emacs 28, 27, 26 > > In 26 it happened ~5 times over 100 tries. > > It doesn't seem to reproduce in Emacs 25, though that version is > pretty buggy here: it tends to hang during startup (around 1 in 6 > times) and I have to pass --eval "(set-frame-size nil 40 18)" for its > window to have a reasonable size. I'm not surprised: Emacs 25 doesn't support double buffering. > --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((undecorated . t)))", OTOH, we > can also cross out from the list of fixes: the problem still happens > with it, though seemingly less often (first repro at the 15th try). OK, thanks. Damned blink-cursor-mode! Does the frame still refresh when you hover over the title bar buttons? Also, since we now know blink-cursor-mode was previously screwing with the results, would you please try some other window manager again and see if the problem reproduces without GNOME?
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Thu, 02 Mar 2023 07:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r14-20020adff70e000000b002c567881dbcsm15563433wrp.48.2023.03.02.07.45.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Mar 2023 07:45:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8eda4f1e-233e-4963-1b1d-75945eca01d4@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:45:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <60c92936-2a75-a254-145a-6a0a1656a645@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/03/2023 15:39, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 02/03/2023 11:30, Gregory Heytings wrote: >> >>>> So... in both problematic cases is seems like there is a >>>> show_back_buffer call right after x_set_title, and yet it does not >>>> reflect on screen. Right? >>> >>> Yes. >>> >> >> How can you draw such a conclusion without knowing what the back >> buffer contains? The fact that show_back_buffer is called doesn't >> imply that it contains what Dmitry expects to see, namely the contents >> of the xassociations.rb file. > > The problem here is that there is no subsequent show_back_buffer call > which corresponds to the "correct" frame contents. But the correct > contents do get displayed (albeit with delay). > > The only next (last) one is me pressing "C-x" in "C-x C-c", I think. I've done so further investigation. Started with trying to find out which part of x_set_name_internal causes the problem. Commented out this or that call, and none seemed to make a difference. So I commented out both existing calls to x_set_name_internal: in x_set_name and x_set_title. Recompiled -- and the problem still reproduces. Then I added --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"aaa\")" to the command line, which we previously identified as potential fix/workaround -- the problem _still_ reproduces. The frequency seems to be ~the same as without it, as long as the x_set_name_internal calls are commented out. With x_set_name_internal not commented out, (setq frame-title-format "aaa") seems to lower the frequency of the issue, which coupled with blink-cursor-mode (which was previously on, and which fires timers over regular intervals) made it rare enough for me to declare the problem absent. And also this addition, which now seems to make the problem _more_ likely to happen" --eval "(add-hook 'find-file-hook #'redisplay t) So I went back to the previous Emacs versions. This MRE: src/emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () (interactive) (insert \"!\") (redisplay) (find-file \"xassociations.rb\") ))" --eval "(add-hook 'find-file-hook #'redisplay t)" --eval "(blink-cursor-mode -1 )" --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"aaa\")" Press 'a'. See if the buffer is displayed after a delay. reproduces (though a little less frequently) in Emacs 28, 27, 26 In 26 it happened ~5 times over 100 tries. It doesn't seem to reproduce in Emacs 25, though that version is pretty buggy here: it tends to hang during startup (around 1 in 6 times) and I have to pass --eval "(set-frame-size nil 40 18)" for its window to have a reasonable size. --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((inhibit-double-buffering . t)))" still seems to be a reliable fix, so maybe Emacs 25 is by definition unaffected. --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((undecorated . t)))", OTOH, we can also cross out from the list of fixes: the problem still happens with it, though seemingly less often (first repro at the 15th try).
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/03/2023 11:30, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >>> So... in both problematic cases is seems like there is a >>> show_back_buffer call right after x_set_title, and yet it does not >>> reflect on screen. Right? >> >> Yes. >> > > How can you draw such a conclusion without knowing what the back buffer > contains? The fact that show_back_buffer is called doesn't imply that > it contains what Dmitry expects to see, namely the contents of the > xassociations.rb file. The problem here is that there is no subsequent show_back_buffer call which corresponds to the "correct" frame contents. But the correct contents do get displayed (albeit with delay). The only next (last) one is me pressing "C-x" in "C-x C-c", I think.
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Thu, 02 Mar 2023 05:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q10-20020adfea0a000000b002c567b58e9asm15469758wrm.56.2023.03.02.05.20.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Mar 2023 05:20:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6b15fdc8-4251-10e4-4714-ce1d58c1637b@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:20:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/03/2023 06:11, Po Lu wrote: >> Does that mean, then, that the refresh of the frame after the delay >> does not correspond to any buffer flushing on Emacs' part? > Yes. It sure sounds like a bug in the GNOME compositor now. > Have you tried disabling GNOME Shell extensions one by one? Maybe one > of them is responsible for this. Alas, no. I've tried disabling extensions before, and to double-check now, I toggled off the "use extensions" switch, logged off and on again, and it still reproduces. One minor detail is that for about a minute after logging in I didn't see the problem, but then it started happening again.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/03/2023 12:29, Po Lu wrote: >> And the next one (the last one) happens much later. From further >> testing, it seems to correlate to me typing 'C-x C-c', rather than to >> when the frame finally refreshes after the delay (for example, when I >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> decide to stop waiting and hover with the mouse over the frame, or >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> over the title bar buttons). >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Hovering over the title bar buttons generates damage on the window and > causes Mutter to ``wake up'', prior to anything further buffer flipping > by Emacs. Mutter cannot magically pull undisplayed frame contents out > of Emacs. Is that much different from being affected by a background window? Which we knew from previous experiments. A background window changing generates damage, causing Mutter to refresh... something.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2023 11:30:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 02 06:30:11 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55969 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pXh8V-0002XA-Fz for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 06:30:11 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:51328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pXh8S-0002Vt-Hd for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 06:30:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677756607; bh=p5IzxreKiRCpqDT6pgI1hlr+FBneZCGbPU3RVtz6iuA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=JM1VejZyhz3ZS95zfHytG/Yfy4uWS0rfw0WDVSb5mmf4S0eL4WBVHWBk8PnDRnA+u HrxuKPesoiQ/KPU5M69P1/63xhc7e3HKQIfyeq+PJfz3u3A2NK3/jFr1yhT5WVxZDF NCkpybGFEM+lkyCevRnoF6g1OTKuQZU22tsvBYu9QfDclQihf5301VQJdcVMqFLHXM s2cPyUJhnXb2a+H7RuJeYcHSkBesA/KqSRdwBthABsyv96rdvBlt97SEYfhe0TkPL5 4+awURk9iPDr5PmhVElt5+ePy6RJ+2ZVI6LZLlaa1PXPXnpclREiEh6EmviU3hQXlS 5SdMhS9d37JTA== Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 11:30:06 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <87r0u7xxgp.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <14405ac4f84d55030402@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f87eba88f1bb@HIDDEN> <87r0u7xxgp.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 152 >> ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 46 >> ERROR 1 | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 >> ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 10 <---------------- >> ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 5684 >> >> ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 130 >> ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 16 >> ERROR 2 | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 >> ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 8 <---------------- >> ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 6302 >> >> OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 278 >> OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 19 >> OKAY | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 >> OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 8 <---------------- >> OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 560 > > Sorry, but where in ``10 ms'' and ``8 ms'' do you see a problem? > > Dimitry has already said that the second call(s) to show_back_buffer > after x_set_title correspond to him pressing C-x C-c (and presumably the > key press being echoed or something along those lines), making it > irrelevant. > Indeed. I missed that part, and thought that the ~6 seconds corresponded to the "multi-second delay" Dmitry mentioned.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID daa90e0afe088af3e08697a211b620dc; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 10:29:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Thu, 02 Mar 2023 09:30:12 +0000") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 18:29:14 +0800 Message-ID: <87mt4vxx8l.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1027 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > How can you draw such a conclusion without knowing what the back > buffer contains? The fact that show_back_buffer is called doesn't > imply that it contains what Dmitry expects to see, namely the contents > of the xassociations.rb file. Because, as Dimitry has said: > And the next one (the last one) happens much later. From further > testing, it seems to correlate to me typing 'C-x C-c', rather than to > when the frame finally refreshes after the delay (for example, when I > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > decide to stop waiting and hover with the mouse over the frame, or > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > over the title bar buttons). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hovering over the title bar buttons generates damage on the window and causes Mutter to ``wake up'', prior to anything further buffer flipping by Emacs. Mutter cannot magically pull undisplayed frame contents out of Emacs.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 849e08907e7fe7bfa5757450f41165d2; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 10:24:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <14405ac4f87eba88f1bb@HIDDEN> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Thu, 02 Mar 2023 09:21:38 +0000") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> <14405ac4f87eba88f1bb@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 18:24:22 +0800 Message-ID: <87r0u7xxgp.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1374 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > It doesn't. The numbers are there, in front of you, and they clearly > point to a problem in Emacs (the third column is the delta in > milliseconds): > > ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 152 > ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 46 > ERROR 1 | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 > ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 10 <---------------- > ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 5684 > > ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 130 > ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 16 > ERROR 2 | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 > ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 8 <---------------- > ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 6302 > > OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 278 > OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 19 > OKAY | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 > OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 8 <---------------- > OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 560 Sorry, but where in ``10 ms'' and ``8 ms'' do you see a problem? Dimitry has already said that the second call(s) to show_back_buffer after x_set_title correspond to him pressing C-x C-c (and presumably the key press being echoed or something along those lines), making it irrelevant.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2023 09:30:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 02 04:30:17 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55776 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pXfGS-0007iC-TR for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:30:17 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:51182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pXfGQ-0007i3-TA for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:30:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677749413; bh=2tMVBE7thFMrQvFXkIb2PpDJOYvsrowbIbWfxFCotes=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=kqXLPFWKhfhgMJzWZxMz+jYr3r2iBUqllzbPC4+Je67Rnh1ht70iyHklK25VQW59G Ty90EdATxJrDHAkCycZ3WQxbqM58MPTUQ6pXC9APmpQJxqHvuwQGpRS+gjsbUUTZoj W1FrTjiKPWFoqVNyFPr1gsKosNdyaAUaE062eNrc0fBtpGUyftHwCK1vy6j7lgB72/ H4o1VH3DRQXOupqVfVoiCCIqS3pxEZaHLHfiOb2iKaGNxUWW4v0RLpIHvfBnKKL7BK 3ca+T2AIJ81IPRpjpkzMZw4zgXI5wbpE5eBdQkoEERaj+wLU9MTWVKCRyAzJxPJjYZ 38DAKakIuV12g== Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 09:30:12 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <14405ac4f8f101c35628@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> So... in both problematic cases is seems like there is a >> show_back_buffer call right after x_set_title, and yet it does not >> reflect on screen. Right? > > Yes. > How can you draw such a conclusion without knowing what the back buffer contains? The fact that show_back_buffer is called doesn't imply that it contains what Dmitry expects to see, namely the contents of the xassociations.rb file.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2023 09:21:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 02 04:21:41 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pXf89-0007Tz-AW for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:21:41 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:51164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pXf88-0007Tr-5u for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:21:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677748898; bh=fGwvA05jEIix4jScsuZgHo2DH/N4/YJBhZnpv0bGy6w=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=2KSXqONEUioWIE6oH3fpTv+s1Fq9sbfMhpNE+oYA7tPKK7/eucAP4qWsW3dqJJNyB Gwe427GOqpneuaQ8PC6yhVAz++MAGz8CgYsHTGd5NWf56jkpuMpEFuoGP7r/dZse4c Y2hQnCimnP3a6r0BcAEGGqWcmPCOPC6Wiqe+bNx/GMN+lW9CgJZHDXOuVap4ts51IA C0BXfB3NRm4kMO7dZRHUc/R1ChkiW1ZhEPPj3ikZAbvnrVjiwKA78cLXk4IP2w20oO 7zt67iMmhyaw8AoX7Yw8X06w/2ROetweF7AnsoY11WEpHeaMNnSy6gB44cDMaTxIDu jqWAp7PmXoD1w== Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 09:21:38 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <14405ac4f87eba88f1bb@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Does that mean, then, that the refresh of the frame after the delay >> does not correspond to any buffer flushing on Emacs' part? > > Yes. It sure sounds like a bug in the GNOME compositor now. > It doesn't. The numbers are there, in front of you, and they clearly point to a problem in Emacs (the third column is the delta in milliseconds): ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 152 ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 46 ERROR 1 | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 10 ERROR 1 | show_back_buffer | | 5684 ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 130 ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 16 ERROR 2 | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 8 ERROR 2 | show_back_buffer | | 6302 OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 278 OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 19 OKAY | x_set_title | xassociations.rb | 0 OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 8 OKAY | show_back_buffer | | 560
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4f03cfcf08c44d54c9a7fa0a22da1748; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 04:11:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 2 Mar 2023 03:44:48 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 12:11:38 +0800 Message-ID: <87a60vztad.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 2742 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > On 02/03/2023 02:34, Po Lu wrote: >> Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>> But blink-cursor-mode was on, of course. It's -Q: everything's on what >>> was not turned off. >>> >>> And it turns out to be the reason for the difference between this and >>> my personal config. With blink-cursor-mode off, the delay can reach >>> multiple seconds like I previously reported. >>> >>> Attaching new recordings with b-c-m off, same naming scheme. >>> >>> x_set_title:*scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565346760276 >>> show_back_buffer: 565346918720 >>> show_back_buffer: 565347019580 >>> show_back_buffer: 565347025374 >>> show_back_buffer: 565347147607 >>> show_back_buffer: 565347299581 >>> show_back_buffer: 565347345317 >>> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565347345457 >>> show_back_buffer: 565347355456 >>> show_back_buffer: 565353039484 >>> >>> x_set_title:*scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565390536932 >>> show_back_buffer: 565390678689 >>> show_back_buffer: 565390747051 >>> show_back_buffer: 565390750166 >>> show_back_buffer: 565390875109 >>> show_back_buffer: 565391250430 >>> show_back_buffer: 565391380489 >>> show_back_buffer: 565391396116 >>> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565391396257 >>> show_back_buffer: 565391404687 >>> show_back_buffer: 565397707089 >>> >>> x_set_title:*scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565404022729 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404182867 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404241162 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404244561 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404369071 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404647259 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404666484 >>> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565404666623 >>> show_back_buffer: 565404674305 >>> show_back_buffer: 565405233868 >> Thanks. Unfortunately, now we're back to square one: all three logs are >> identical, and I can't see any problems in Emacs. > > So... in both problematic cases is seems like there is a > show_back_buffer call right after x_set_title, and yet it does not > reflect on screen. Right? Yes. > And the next one (the last one) happens much later. From further > testing, it seems to correlate to me typing 'C-x C-c', rather than to > when the frame finally refreshes after the delay (for example, when I > decide to stop waiting and hover with the mouse over the frame, or > over the title bar buttons). Indeed, that's what it seems like to me as well. > Does that mean, then, that the refresh of the frame after the delay > does not correspond to any buffer flushing on Emacs' part? Yes. It sure sounds like a bug in the GNOME compositor now. Have you tried disabling GNOME Shell extensions one by one? Maybe one of them is responsible for this.
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Wed, 01 Mar 2023 17:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x8-20020a1c7c08000000b003eb2e33f327sm3697482wmc.2.2023.03.01.17.44.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Mar 2023 17:44:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8f4df0d7-eb1a-379a-db03-314f2c93743b@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 03:44:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 02/03/2023 02:34, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> But blink-cursor-mode was on, of course. It's -Q: everything's on what >> was not turned off. >> >> And it turns out to be the reason for the difference between this and >> my personal config. With blink-cursor-mode off, the delay can reach >> multiple seconds like I previously reported. >> >> Attaching new recordings with b-c-m off, same naming scheme. >> >> x_set_title:*scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565346760276 >> show_back_buffer: 565346918720 >> show_back_buffer: 565347019580 >> show_back_buffer: 565347025374 >> show_back_buffer: 565347147607 >> show_back_buffer: 565347299581 >> show_back_buffer: 565347345317 >> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565347345457 >> show_back_buffer: 565347355456 >> show_back_buffer: 565353039484 >> >> x_set_title:*scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565390536932 >> show_back_buffer: 565390678689 >> show_back_buffer: 565390747051 >> show_back_buffer: 565390750166 >> show_back_buffer: 565390875109 >> show_back_buffer: 565391250430 >> show_back_buffer: 565391380489 >> show_back_buffer: 565391396116 >> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565391396257 >> show_back_buffer: 565391404687 >> show_back_buffer: 565397707089 >> >> x_set_title:*scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565404022729 >> show_back_buffer: 565404182867 >> show_back_buffer: 565404241162 >> show_back_buffer: 565404244561 >> show_back_buffer: 565404369071 >> show_back_buffer: 565404647259 >> show_back_buffer: 565404666484 >> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565404666623 >> show_back_buffer: 565404674305 >> show_back_buffer: 565405233868 > Thanks. Unfortunately, now we're back to square one: all three logs are > identical, and I can't see any problems in Emacs. So... in both problematic cases is seems like there is a show_back_buffer call right after x_set_title, and yet it does not reflect on screen. Right? And the next one (the last one) happens much later. From further testing, it seems to correlate to me typing 'C-x C-c', rather than to when the frame finally refreshes after the delay (for example, when I decide to stop waiting and hover with the mouse over the frame, or over the title bar buttons). Does that mean, then, that the refresh of the frame after the delay does not correspond to any buffer flushing on Emacs' part?
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c107a9ce197667b15c4e1e0f6038556e; Thu, 02 Mar 2023 00:34:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:33:11 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> <43d50d6a-1eb0-cd42-0479-3f9d4d74904a@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 08:34:44 +0800 Message-ID: <87ilfkyorf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1746 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > But blink-cursor-mode was on, of course. It's -Q: everything's on what > was not turned off. > > And it turns out to be the reason for the difference between this and > my personal config. With blink-cursor-mode off, the delay can reach > multiple seconds like I previously reported. > > Attaching new recordings with b-c-m off, same naming scheme. > > x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565346760276 > show_back_buffer: 565346918720 > show_back_buffer: 565347019580 > show_back_buffer: 565347025374 > show_back_buffer: 565347147607 > show_back_buffer: 565347299581 > show_back_buffer: 565347345317 > x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565347345457 > show_back_buffer: 565347355456 > show_back_buffer: 565353039484 > > x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565390536932 > show_back_buffer: 565390678689 > show_back_buffer: 565390747051 > show_back_buffer: 565390750166 > show_back_buffer: 565390875109 > show_back_buffer: 565391250430 > show_back_buffer: 565391380489 > show_back_buffer: 565391396116 > x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565391396257 > show_back_buffer: 565391404687 > show_back_buffer: 565397707089 > > x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565404022729 > show_back_buffer: 565404182867 > show_back_buffer: 565404241162 > show_back_buffer: 565404244561 > show_back_buffer: 565404369071 > show_back_buffer: 565404647259 > show_back_buffer: 565404666484 > x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 565404666623 > show_back_buffer: 565404674305 > show_back_buffer: 565405233868 Thanks. Unfortunately, now we're back to square one: all three logs are identical, and I can't see any problems in Emacs.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01/03/2023 14:41, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Nope, it's for the "no problem" case. Hence the name. > Huh, that's really weird. If blink-cursor-mode is not the source of the > inconsistencies, then the only explanation is that GNOME somehow behaves > badly if: > > - the back buffer is displayed prior to the title being set. > - the WM name is changed. > - another buffer swap happens 400 ms later. This delay happens because of the human factor: I need to hit 'a' after the frame has fully rendered, to run the command (which inserts !, redisplays, then calls find-file). > I will try to see if I can reproduce this. > >> I am sure, but just to verify, I redid the experiment again. See >> attached files, the naming scheme is the same: two problem cases and >> one "okay" case. > Was blink-cursor-mode turned off, BTW? If it is on, then potentially > superfluous buffer swaps will end up in the logs once per > blink-cursor-interval and screw them up. But blink-cursor-mode was on, of course. It's -Q: everything's on what was not turned off. And it turns out to be the reason for the difference between this and my personal config. With blink-cursor-mode off, the delay can reach multiple seconds like I previously reported. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 065ddf4ac18fcd4525d6d1961b8d69ab; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 1 Mar 2023 14:19:50 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 20:41:09 +0800 Message-ID: <87o7pczlsq.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 773 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Nope, it's for the "no problem" case. Hence the name. Huh, that's really weird. If blink-cursor-mode is not the source of the inconsistencies, then the only explanation is that GNOME somehow behaves badly if: - the back buffer is displayed prior to the title being set. - the WM name is changed. - another buffer swap happens 400 ms later. I will try to see if I can reproduce this. > I am sure, but just to verify, I redid the experiment again. See > attached files, the naming scheme is the same: two problem cases and > one "okay" case. Was blink-cursor-mode turned off, BTW? If it is on, then potentially superfluous buffer swaps will end up in the logs once per blink-cursor-interval and screw them up. Thanks.
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Wed, 01 Mar 2023 04:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h22-20020a05600c351600b003daf6e3bc2fsm1970851wmq.1.2023.03.01.04.19.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 01 Mar 2023 04:19:51 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------ii4AZEDG0jtmRd6NcPkLFVb8" Message-ID: <ba5a637e-70ee-3d89-8c0a-7e04fb987c6b@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 14:19:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ii4AZEDG0jtmRd6NcPkLFVb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01/03/2023 14:10, Po Lu wrote: > This log (``err-okay.log'') was generated when you encountered the > problem, right? Nope, it's for the "no problem" case. Hence the name. > Because here, the buffer swap happens 400 ms after > the frame title changes. > >> x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554169702405 >> show_back_buffer: 554169844161 >> show_back_buffer: 554169930769 >> show_back_buffer: 554169943915 >> show_back_buffer: 554170059535 >> show_back_buffer: 554170197598 >> show_back_buffer: 554170246100 >> x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554170246258 >> show_back_buffer: 554170256469 >> show_back_buffer: 554170744241 > > While these two appear to be fine, with the buffer swap happening only > ~15ms afterwards. So are you sure your description is correct? I am sure, but just to verify, I redid the experiment again. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9c376894eee09577cf57eaacdcee3d46; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 12:10:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 1 Mar 2023 13:15:30 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> <87zg8xyt0m.fsf@HIDDEN> <25c817d9-f969-8c24-6ed4-9b35fd6f27ad@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 20:10:08 +0800 Message-ID: <87sfeozn8f.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1709 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This log (``err-okay.log'') was generated when you encountered the problem, right? Because here, the buffer swap happens 400 ms after the frame title changes. > x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554169702405 > show_back_buffer: 554169844161 > show_back_buffer: 554169930769 > show_back_buffer: 554169943915 > show_back_buffer: 554170059535 > show_back_buffer: 554170197598 > show_back_buffer: 554170246100 > x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554170246258 > show_back_buffer: 554170256469 > show_back_buffer: 554170744241 While these two appear to be fine, with the buffer swap happening only ~15ms afterwards. So are you sure your description is correct? > x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554112118100 > show_back_buffer: 554112279375 > show_back_buffer: 554112342946 > show_back_buffer: 554112346783 > show_back_buffer: 554112437591 > show_back_buffer: 554112478589 > x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554112478748 > show_back_buffer: 554112489879 > show_back_buffer: 554112992823 > show_back_buffer: 554113493216 > show_back_buffer: 554113983937 > show_back_buffer: 554113992967 > > x_set_title: *scratch* - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554158723545 > show_back_buffer: 554158858188 > show_back_buffer: 554158917555 > show_back_buffer: 554158920621 > show_back_buffer: 554159045904 > show_back_buffer: 554159154120 > show_back_buffer: 554159200171 > x_set_title: xassociations.rb - GNU Emacs at potemkin, 554159200318 > show_back_buffer: 554159216640 > show_back_buffer: 554159719371 > show_back_buffer: 554160224273 > show_back_buffer: 554160719622 > show_back_buffer: 554161221086 > show_back_buffer: 554161349219 Thanks in advance.
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On 01/03/2023 06:50, Po Lu wrote:
> OK, I have to be 100% sure we're not missing something here. With
> stderr redirected to a file, and the following instrumentation applied::
>
> diff --git a/src/xfns.c b/src/xfns.c
> index 9e004f6a678..b4bef7f38fd 100644
> --- a/src/xfns.c
> +++ b/src/xfns.c
> @@ -2232,6 +2232,18 @@ x_set_name_internal (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object name)
> SDATA (encoded_icon_name),
> SBYTES (encoded_icon_name));
>
> + long long
> + current_ust (void)
> + {
> + struct timespec ts;
> +
> + clock_gettime (CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &ts);
> + return ts.tv_sec * 1000000 + ts.tv_nsec / 1000;
> + }
> +
> + fprintf (stderr, "x_set_title: %s, %lld\n",
> + SSDATA (name), current_ust ());
> +
> if (do_free_icon_value)
> xfree (icon.value);
> if (do_free_text_value)
> diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
> index 70bcb67d80d..c7ad1bbb722 100644
> --- a/src/xterm.c
> +++ b/src/xterm.c
> @@ -7439,6 +7439,18 @@ show_back_buffer (struct frame *f)
> swap_info.swap_action = XdbeCopied;
> XdbeSwapBuffers (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), &swap_info, 1);
>
> + long long
> + current_ust (void)
> + {
> + struct timespec ts;
> +
> + clock_gettime (CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &ts);
> + return ts.tv_sec * 1000000 + ts.tv_nsec / 1000;
> + }
> +
> + fprintf (stderr, "show_back_buffer: %lld\n",
> + current_ust ());
> +
> #if defined HAVE_XSYNC && !defined USE_GTK && defined HAVE_CLOCK_GETTIME
> /* Finish the frame here. */
> x_sync_update_finish (f);
>
> do you see a significant amount of time taken between setting the title
> and swapping buffers?
It seemed more difficult to reproduce with this patch, but still I
managed to hit that twice over a couple of dozen tries.
Attached are three logs: two when the problem was hit, and one "normal"
for comparison.
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Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay
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Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes:
> On 01/03/2023 03:11, Po Lu wrote:
>> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> Why does constant frame-title-format fix this, though?
>> Because presumably Mutter has no need to damage the title bar, which
>> you
>> do see changing.
>>
>>> I have tried this with default config (double buffering on,
>>> undecorated off), and I don't see any delay between text insertion and
>>> frame title changes. 1 second pause, "Test 1" is inserted, the title
>>> changes (*), 1 second pause, "Test 2" is inserted, the title changes.
>>>
>>> That probably means I don't need to test the alternative configs,
>>> right?
>> Yes, but that's odd. What if you run the entire test in an infinite
>> loop?
>> Do you eventually notice a delay?
>
> Originally I ran the test a couple of dozen times (restating Emacs
> every try), like I do with the MRE scenario when testing different
> settings.
>
> Now I re-ran it with (dotimes (i 20) ...) twice, and didn't see the
> problem either.
>
> Not sure how infinite you want this loop to be, but the original
> scenarios would almost certainly have showed the problem several times
> over this many tries.
OK, I have to be 100% sure we're not missing something here. With
stderr redirected to a file, and the following instrumentation applied::
diff --git a/src/xfns.c b/src/xfns.c
index 9e004f6a678..b4bef7f38fd 100644
--- a/src/xfns.c
+++ b/src/xfns.c
@@ -2232,6 +2232,18 @@ x_set_name_internal (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object name)
SDATA (encoded_icon_name),
SBYTES (encoded_icon_name));
+ long long
+ current_ust (void)
+ {
+ struct timespec ts;
+
+ clock_gettime (CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &ts);
+ return ts.tv_sec * 1000000 + ts.tv_nsec / 1000;
+ }
+
+ fprintf (stderr, "x_set_title: %s, %lld\n",
+ SSDATA (name), current_ust ());
+
if (do_free_icon_value)
xfree (icon.value);
if (do_free_text_value)
diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
index 70bcb67d80d..c7ad1bbb722 100644
--- a/src/xterm.c
+++ b/src/xterm.c
@@ -7439,6 +7439,18 @@ show_back_buffer (struct frame *f)
swap_info.swap_action = XdbeCopied;
XdbeSwapBuffers (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), &swap_info, 1);
+ long long
+ current_ust (void)
+ {
+ struct timespec ts;
+
+ clock_gettime (CLOCK_MONOTONIC, &ts);
+ return ts.tv_sec * 1000000 + ts.tv_nsec / 1000;
+ }
+
+ fprintf (stderr, "show_back_buffer: %lld\n",
+ current_ust ());
+
#if defined HAVE_XSYNC && !defined USE_GTK && defined HAVE_CLOCK_GETTIME
/* Finish the frame here. */
x_sync_update_finish (f);
do you see a significant amount of time taken between setting the title
and swapping buffers?
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Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a23-20020a50c317000000b004bc59951d6fsm37252edb.57.2023.02.28.17.25.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:25:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2b249c97-db63-34e1-80c2-0c898005e31f@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 03:25:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 01/03/2023 03:11, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Why does constant frame-title-format fix this, though? > > Because presumably Mutter has no need to damage the title bar, which you > do see changing. > >> I have tried this with default config (double buffering on, >> undecorated off), and I don't see any delay between text insertion and >> frame title changes. 1 second pause, "Test 1" is inserted, the title >> changes (*), 1 second pause, "Test 2" is inserted, the title changes. >> >> That probably means I don't need to test the alternative configs, >> right? > > Yes, but that's odd. What if you run the entire test in an infinite loop? > Do you eventually notice a delay? Originally I ran the test a couple of dozen times (restating Emacs every try), like I do with the MRE scenario when testing different settings. Now I re-ran it with (dotimes (i 20) ...) twice, and didn't see the problem either. Not sure how infinite you want this loop to be, but the original scenarios would almost certainly have showed the problem several times over this many tries. >> (*) By default frame-title-format is eq to icon-title-format, so with >> 'emacs -Q' the title doesn't actually change on the first step. I > > The idea was to restore the original frame-title-format, yes; it was > supposed to be run in a loop as well. All right.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID dc5f4298c44006feb5cd3b2eb533e994; Wed, 01 Mar 2023 01:11:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 28 Feb 2023 19:59:24 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <87a60y13ou.fsf@HIDDEN> <674e150e-fcbe-7d67-962e-214cfaec2ca0@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 09:11:49 +0800 Message-ID: <875ybl1dii.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 906 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Why does constant frame-title-format fix this, though? Because presumably Mutter has no need to damage the title bar, which you do see changing. > I have tried this with default config (double buffering on, > undecorated off), and I don't see any delay between text insertion and > frame title changes. 1 second pause, "Test 1" is inserted, the title > changes (*), 1 second pause, "Test 2" is inserted, the title changes. > > That probably means I don't need to test the alternative configs, > right? Yes, but that's odd. What if you run the entire test in an infinite loop? Do you eventually notice a delay? > (*) By default frame-title-format is eq to icon-title-format, so with > 'emacs -Q' the title doesn't actually change on the first step. I The idea was to restore the original frame-title-format, yes; it was supposed to be run in a loop as well.
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Which is either "test title", or the other one.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 28/02/2023 12:31, Po Lu wrote: > Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Thanks! After seeing this, I'm now convinced that the problem is not >> a GNOME one, for two reasons: >> >> 1. The effect of (insert "!") (redisplay) is immediately visible on >> screen. Why would GNOME treat the effect of changing the buffer from >> *scratch* to xassociations.rb differently? > > If you insert "!", the frame title does not change, right? "!" is inserted in the same buffer the command is invoked from - so the title shouldn't change at that point yet. > Everything points to this being a bug somewhere in Mutter: how damage to > surrounding windows (including obscured ones) prevents it from showing > up, and how it doesn't show up in an undecorated frame. Why does constant frame-title-format fix this, though? > Dimitry, do you see any delay between the change in the frame title and > when ``Test 2'' becomes visible? With and without double buffering, and > with and without `undecorated' set to `t'? > > (progn > (sleep-for 1) > (setq frame-title-format icon-title-format) > (insert "Test 1") > (force-mode-line-update) > (redisplay) > (sleep-for 1) > (setq frame-title-format "test title") > (insert "Test 2") > (force-mode-line-update) > (redisplay)) I have tried this with default config (double buffering on, undecorated off), and I don't see any delay between text insertion and frame title changes. 1 second pause, "Test 1" is inserted, the title changes (*), 1 second pause, "Test 2" is inserted, the title changes. That probably means I don't need to test the alternative configs, right? (*) By default frame-title-format is eq to icon-title-format, so with 'emacs -Q' the title doesn't actually change on the first step. I tried both this scenario and the scenario with swapped frame-title-format assignments. In both the second insertion of "Test 2" coincides with the title change to "test title".
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Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes:
> Thanks! After seeing this, I'm now convinced that the problem is not
> a GNOME one, for two reasons:
>
> 1. The effect of (insert "!") (redisplay) is immediately visible on
> screen. Why would GNOME treat the effect of changing the buffer from
> *scratch* to xassociations.rb differently?
If you insert "!", the frame title does not change, right?
Everything points to this being a bug somewhere in Mutter: how damage to
surrounding windows (including obscured ones) prevents it from showing
up, and how it doesn't show up in an undecorated frame.
Dimitry, do you see any delay between the change in the frame title and
when ``Test 2'' becomes visible? With and without double buffering, and
with and without `undecorated' set to `t'?
(progn
(sleep-for 1)
(setq frame-title-format icon-title-format)
(insert "Test 1")
(force-mode-line-update)
(redisplay)
(sleep-for 1)
(setq frame-title-format "test title")
(insert "Test 2")
(force-mode-line-update)
(redisplay))
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I guess that confirms my theory. I am currently rather sick, but once I get better I will try to make a reproducer that doesn't involve Emacs and report this to GNOME.
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Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a18-20020a5d53d2000000b002c70ce264bfsm8519036wrw.76.2023.02.27.15.47.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Feb 2023 15:47:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6d79d500-a0b4-b546-0612-43379b21ba7d@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 01:47:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> <c78c428e-7ccb-4f9f-1e37-d50d97ce69c7@HIDDEN> <9ac9271f1e3dfa85a837@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <9ac9271f1e3dfa85a837@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 28/02/2023 00:41, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >> One of the sides is subtly wrong -- not sure which one -- but other >> applications don't seem to exhibit the same buffering problem, so some >> sequence of action which would fix our situation should exist. >> > > I think adding this: > > (add-to-list 'find-file-hook #'redisplay t) > > at the end of your init file will probably "fix" (in the sense of > circumventing) the problem. It does help, in the sense that the bug occurs like 5x less often. I can still reproduce it using the base scenario, though. Just have to try a little longer.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 27/02/2023 12:30, Gregory Heytings wrote: >> >> I redid the screencast using ffmpeg and x11grab, and it captures the >> problem fine. See the last two attempts (out of 6) in this video: >> >> https://a.uguu.se/PThfScNL.webm >> >> Note I also added (insert "!") and (redisplay) so that it's easy to >> see the exact moment "a" was pressed. >> > > Thanks! After seeing this, I'm now convinced that the problem is not a > GNOME one, for two reasons: > > 1. The effect of (insert "!") (redisplay) is immediately visible on > screen. Why would GNOME treat the effect of changing the buffer from > *scratch* to xassociations.rb differently? > > 2. The delay is different with emacs -Q (13 frames in that video, which > at 25 FPS means 520 ms) and with your config. Why would GNOME treat the > same app differently depending on how it is configured? Thank you. At the very least it seems to mean that Mutter isn't outright broken. There seems to be some problem regarding synchronization around the setting of the frame title. One of the sides is subtly wrong -- not sure which one -- but other applications don't seem to exhibit the same buffering problem, so some sequence of action which would fix our situation should exist.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2023 10:30:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 27 05:30:38 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46169 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pWamE-0001Yk-G3 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:30:38 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:47070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pWamC-0001Yb-4Y for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 05:30:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677493834; bh=VwEmaKdkW3WLamlO3Jggwd1PVc+DIEb2unQIZmuOl1I=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=5CoEYMu1JMQU0zN2Tj+SPevuezB4s5hP29hrJULLQS4QkwAM/c8xg452+VUjtAisn utJ2Gop97ri3ducAZzczRUH7wXpR5xA+q+25WnDdJ2vjG7fWC12foYzDfA9wrZw4/g E4IjW6uTmbgYqzszr0FUjMmerjUqYcvMioQ8JClzwxz32dLppqd+qTptvAuitwra7V 21GWmMILTd1S7SitdDlx+f2lv9Y6FWCP9GQ59cCPd7D1tgFhcgTVA3jtaN2bofXP5S Yt4cOPY8LPhqcRnJ7vFn01YLp42gI6HMVrvQH6PMRS4myb1t7Qyj5mVyObDBqC9S2a U8YiEeuP5XtNQ== Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:30:34 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <9ac9271f1ee55a9b8bbf@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> <ef348a4a-a231-9070-19e0-92d0310947bf@HIDDEN> <7fee18a7-3307-b6de-1428-ae17d51c85af@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > I redid the screencast using ffmpeg and x11grab, and it captures the > problem fine. See the last two attempts (out of 6) in this video: > > https://a.uguu.se/PThfScNL.webm > > Note I also added (insert "!") and (redisplay) so that it's easy to see > the exact moment "a" was pressed. > Thanks! After seeing this, I'm now convinced that the problem is not a GNOME one, for two reasons: 1. The effect of (insert "!") (redisplay) is immediately visible on screen. Why would GNOME treat the effect of changing the buffer from *scratch* to xassociations.rb differently? 2. The delay is different with emacs -Q (13 frames in that video, which at 25 FPS means 520 ms) and with your config. Why would GNOME treat the same app differently depending on how it is configured?
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 19:00, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > Its weird: screencast recording doesn't stop the problem from happening > live, but it fails to capture how it looks. > > I've recorded a half dozen of such screencasts, and I think only one of > them managed to capture the desynchronization between the title bar and > the window update. The rest look like there is no delay. That might be a peculiarity of gnome-screenshot.. I redid the screencast using ffmpeg and x11grab, and it captures the problem fine. See the last two attempts (out of 6) in this video: https://a.uguu.se/PThfScNL.webm Note I also added (insert "!") and (redisplay) so that it's easy to see the exact moment "a" was pressed.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 17:54, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >>>> To avoid this measurement affecting the delay itself, as we saw with >>>> printfs and trace-redisplay, the timings should be sent via pipe to >>>> a file, not to the screen. >>> >>> If they indeed don't affect the measurement when they are sent to a >>> file, it is probably possible to sent them to the screen without >>> affecting the measurement, by calling 'tail -f' on the file in which >>> they are recorded in another terminal. >> >> Yes, I suppose this can work, if the new terminal is positioned far >> away from Emacs's window. >> >> None of the new proposed tests depend on me being able to monitor the >> output in real time, though. >> > > If you want to measure the latency between the moment an XFlush is > issued by Emacs and the moment you actually see the buffer contents of > the buffer on screen, I think you could screencast your repro and use > the recorded video to make that measurement (unless screencasting > eliminates the problem, too...). Its weird: screencast recording doesn't stop the problem from happening live, but it fails to capture how it looks. I've recorded a half dozen of such screencasts, and I think only one of them managed to capture the desynchronization between the title bar and the window update. The rest look like there is no delay. But this one occurrence you can see here (attempt #4, around 00:00:06): https://a.uguu.se/Oopgcemf.webm
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2023 15:54:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 26 10:54:10 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pWJLm-0003rg-8B for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 10:54:10 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:46130) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pWJLg-0003rT-Hl for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 10:54:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677426843; bh=s/MNbPnSWM2Kk71P63scoX1Tb/INu7iVkDHaDPkdECA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=m4kVMZGqGCnBP3HMc3FsKdBA4uuoePHc/IGmV461jl8hiVs+TZvBk5GVtLIgSj/mY FAy5WcKvUEcNvQkLOMLMWIYDnSV2yDbxGWzesMvq5nC7wCa+E32WLWHk+NcAWrs528 r+nybV9IoSzzsXyS4xCccLXCGcFKoRy7cZvl80iTVxKdWmQ4WszG1a6RFncwYAd871 +L2aH2oAj/fjCebmFIjVjOimfzkV76BrgGZbNg4UX4fk9h4ejI6WA0qrNOA5+tiP7m iksuqcZqNtWL/cMOUe1lUAHlVdK1pJM7YRJ6FEtJAmXDodA+TqOkN7r2RkVZKuwxlN uD8enV3E/0VWA== Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:54:03 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <8716b41c97839d6a8b87@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9716878d8cb9@HIDDEN> <f31ae245-9792-f7ef-6475-e082abf97257@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> To avoid this measurement affecting the delay itself, as we saw with >>> printfs and trace-redisplay, the timings should be sent via pipe to a >>> file, not to the screen. >> >> If they indeed don't affect the measurement when they are sent to a >> file, it is probably possible to sent them to the screen without >> affecting the measurement, by calling 'tail -f' on the file in which >> they are recorded in another terminal. > > Yes, I suppose this can work, if the new terminal is positioned far away > from Emacs's window. > > None of the new proposed tests depend on me being able to monitor the > output in real time, though. > If you want to measure the latency between the moment an XFlush is issued by Emacs and the moment you actually see the buffer contents of the buffer on screen, I think you could screencast your repro and use the recorded video to make that measurement (unless screencasting eliminates the problem, too...).
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Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 5-20020a170906058500b008d606b1bbb1sm2056295ejn.9.2023.02.26.07.50.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:50:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6385afb9-5c55-98dd-0139-819519cd0114@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 17:50:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> <831qmck3qt.fsf@HIDDEN> <41c5671e-e9c3-33f3-6c9c-8a1a6fc527fb@HIDDEN> <83ttz8ils1.fsf@HIDDEN> <2ed73bf2-0377-4b1b-088c-eda4ceb3a0f0@HIDDEN> <83pm9wii9d.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83pm9wii9d.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; 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Not from the time Emacs start. > > I don't think it matters. From the start is easier, I think. Emacs itself takes around a second to start. Then there is time between that and me hitting 'a' which depends on the human reflexes (the latency there should be on the order of 100ms too). If I don't wait for the startup to finish before pressing 'a', then the problem doesn't show up either, so I do have to wait. So measuring from Emacs start might give pretty unreliable numbers. But anyway, let's try measuring something, and I'll see if I can hit buttons with predictable timings.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 16:44, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >> >> To avoid this measurement affecting the delay itself, as we saw with >> printfs and trace-redisplay, the timings should be sent via pipe to a >> file, not to the screen. >> > > If they indeed don't affect the measurement when they are sent to a > file, it is probably possible to sent them to the screen without > affecting the measurement, by calling 'tail -f' on the file in which > they are recorded in another terminal. Yes, I suppose this can work, if the new terminal is positioned far away from Emacs's window. None of the new proposed tests depend on me being able to monitor the output in real time, though.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 15:44, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > from the time Emacs starts and until Emacs sends the > XFlush to the X server From the time I press 'a', right? Not from the time Emacs start. > as we saw with printfs and trace-redisplay, the timings should be sent via pipe to a file, not to the screen. I can redirect those to a file with 2>err.log, that worked before.
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Sun, 26 Feb 2023 05:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a1-20020a05600c224100b003e118684d56sm9587482wmm.45.2023.02.26.05.31.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Feb 2023 05:31:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7741b03b-c3a8-36b9-53db-3b7997abc96d@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:31:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9798c19d35d9@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8716b41c9798c19d35d9@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 15:15, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >>> . "emacs -Q", then type 'a' (which visits a file?) >>> . "emacs" with your configuration, then type "C-x b", which visits a >>> file >>> >>> In both cases, you see a delay before the display is updated, right? >> >> About 1 in 5-10 tries the delay is high enough to be noticeable >> (200-300ms with -Q and up to 1-2 seconds with my config). >> > > What happens if instead of your recipe you use these ones > > emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval > "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () > (interactive) (message "a pressed!") (find-file \"test.c\")))" > > emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval > "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () > (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\") (message "file loaded!")))" > > ? Both of these make the problem go away, too.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 14:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 14:23:49 +0200 >> Cc:luangruo@HIDDEN,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,gregory@HIDDEN >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> >> >> On 26/02/2023 14:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Thanks, but I still need to insist on more clarity, if possible. >>> >>> You say "disappears", in quotes, presumably to say that it's still >>> present but hard to notice? And before that, you say the delay is >>> always physically present? >> The delay is distance in time. It can't really be zero -- that's just >> physics: the OS has to process the keypress, Emacs has to read the file, >> run the major mode function, etc. >> >> The problem is when that delay becomes high enough to notice with a >> naked eye. > And that happens even if the frame title is not changed? No. Here are all the ways we have found that make the problem go away: --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((inhibit-double-buffering . t)))" --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"foo bar foo\")" --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((undecorated . t)))" When any of these arguments is passed to Emacs, the problem does not reproduce anymore. > IOW, is time interval between pressing RET at the end of the command > which starts Emacs and the time the text area of the window shows the > file's text -- is this time interval the same whether the frames title > changes or not? The command doesn't trigger Emacs to visit a file, though. So I mean the delay between me either - Pressing 'a' in one scenario (the 'emacs -Q ...' one) - Or pressing 'C-x b xas RET' (using Ido completion with my config) and the buffer's text being displayed.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2023 13:15:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 26 08:15:26 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42563 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pWGs9-0007Oc-SV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:15:26 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pWGs8-0007OU-OG for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:15:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677417323; bh=YMngCiOavPJlahGWW7zom1BpPyONL1mjWD6yaNUo0fg=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=cmRZKx07mfHCZHzhVon8W5mnCd6jlUucfi21VDMMim8M6g93PFTi4A4i4xLW1g54m K+2sqgRedygSnnUBReY6pNNtK6b7DxECERwQ9HSz+eQRh0UOY863R0N+7Tlbx7vc30 GGxG302y+LhVr8KAOCWPRwsINGWcP5VwvnOcY0DNmxWpo+T387s/BDwbbGOv2poZRl /W331GN0sIYnsI/RYHwLmLsQzvHuAMCFqUTxd0qFGFo4ib3ZFTpKZkEVpb/N3h6Htq mYwnTLM3Rhrk5rPOxgGgdwpuG1D6WBxrZIqmwW9pR6XagZc4EtlAY5XtW0Ltkakyhp FWMw2R7QD7SNg== Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 13:15:23 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <8716b41c9798c19d35d9@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> . "emacs -Q", then type 'a' (which visits a file?) >> . "emacs" with your configuration, then type "C-x b", which visits a file >> >> In both cases, you see a delay before the display is updated, right? > > About 1 in 5-10 tries the delay is high enough to be noticeable > (200-300ms with -Q and up to 1-2 seconds with my config). > What happens if instead of your recipe you use these ones emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () (interactive) (message "a pressed!") (find-file \"test.c\")))" emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\") (message "file loaded!")))" ?
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Sun, 26 Feb 2023 04:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j23-20020a508a97000000b004af70c4b4a7sm1844217edj.97.2023.02.26.04.23.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Feb 2023 04:23:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d674d22-fe8c-b7a3-115f-515a8a37b7e5@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 14:23:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> <83fsatj57m.fsf@HIDDEN> <d60f9b7f-fcfa-3f52-b848-ef04d259df14@HIDDEN> <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83356sk4jk.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 14:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Thanks, but I still need to insist on more clarity, if possible. > > You say "disappears", in quotes, presumably to say that it's still > present but hard to notice? And before that, you say the delay is > always physically present? The delay is distance in time. It can't really be zero -- that's just physics: the OS has to process the keypress, Emacs has to read the file, run the major mode function, etc. The problem is when that delay becomes high enough to notice with a naked eye. > If the delay does not actually disappear, > without any quotes, and is always present, then the frame's title and > double-buffering just make it easier to detect the delay, but don't > affect the delay itself. No, that's not the issue.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 04:39, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> The problem, indeed, could show up if the delay between me pressing >> 'a' and the buffer being displayed could still reach 200-300ms even >> with constant title bar. But it doesn't. > Maybe the damage to Mutter's frame window is what is causing the > confusion. Since the buffer swap happens immediately after the title is > set, that seems plausible. > > What happens with an undecorated frame? --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((undecorated . t)))" does fix the problem, like the other two methods.
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"emacs -Q", then type 'a' (which visits a file?) > > . "emacs" with your configuration, then type "C-x b", which visits a > > file > > > > In both cases, you see a delay before the display is updated, right? > > About 1 in 5-10 tries the delay is high enough to be noticeable > (200-300ms with -Q and up to 1-2 seconds with my config). > > > So what effect, if any, does the changing vs fixed frame title have on > > each of these two use cases? > > The delay (which is, physically, always present) becomes never nigh > enough to be noticeable. > > Or, in simple terms, disappears. > > > And what effect does disabling > > double-buffering have on each of these two cases? > > Same effect: delay "disappears". Thanks, but I still need to insist on more clarity, if possible. You say "disappears", in quotes, presumably to say that it's still present but hard to notice? And before that, you say the delay is always physically present? If the delay does not actually disappear, without any quotes, and is always present, then the frame's title and double-buffering just make it easier to detect the delay, but don't affect the delay itself. I think we must have a clear understanding whether the delay disappears or just becomes hard to detect.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 08:44, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Sorry, I'm still confused. Let me try to explain what I understand > and what confuses me. > > There are two use cases where you see the problem: > > . "emacs -Q", then type 'a' (which visits a file?) > . "emacs" with your configuration, then type "C-x b", which visits a > file > > In both cases, you see a delay before the display is updated, right? About 1 in 5-10 tries the delay is high enough to be noticeable (200-300ms with -Q and up to 1-2 seconds with my config). > So what effect, if any, does the changing vs fixed frame title have on > each of these two use cases? The delay (which is, physically, always present) becomes never nigh enough to be noticeable. Or, in simple terms, disappears. > And what effect does disabling > double-buffering have on each of these two cases? Same effect: delay "disappears". > AFAIR, you originally said that when the title is not updated, the > problem disappears. Yes. > Then you said that the problem does NOT disappear > when the title is fixed, but having the title change makes it easier > to realize that the delay exists. I only said (or meant to say) that having the title change made it easier to understand that there definitely *is* a problem. Because otherwise I could attribute the delay to various sources of latency we could experience: reading from disk (or network, whatever), triggering a garbage collection, etc. But since the title changes, the buffer must already be read and visited, and yet it's not displayed in the frame for some time. > Now you are saying something else. > This is what confuses me: what is the effect of the changing frame > title on the above two cases? Delay disappears.
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> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 04:00:15 +0200
> Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>
> On 26/02/2023 03:53, Gregory Heytings wrote:
> >
> >>> I mean: an MRE to reproduce the multi-second delay, which makes the
> >>> bug apparent even without a title bar.
> >>
> >> The delay is multi-second only with my personal config, correct, but I
> >> haven't been able to reproduce the problem with unchanging title bar,
> >> or without a title bar.
> >>
> >
> > Now I'm confused. I understood that you were able to reproduce the
> > multi-second delay with your config with an constant title bar.
>
> No, the constant title bar is what fixed it even with my config. Even
> the "multi-second delay" which potentially could have been a different
> problem (but it wasn't).
>
> > E.g. you said "But whether the title changes or not, I can easily see
> the delay between me pressing 'a' and the contents of the window being
> updated. Or its absence." I'm probably missing something.
>
> "Or its absence", yes.
>
> This was in response to Po's message:
>
> But in this case the frame title will never change, so no problem can
> show up.
>
> The problem, indeed, could show up if the delay between me pressing 'a'
> and the buffer being displayed could still reach 200-300ms even with
> constant title bar. But it doesn't.
Sorry, I'm still confused. Let me try to explain what I understand
and what confuses me.
There are two use cases where you see the problem:
. "emacs -Q", then type 'a' (which visits a file?)
. "emacs" with your configuration, then type "C-x b", which visits a
file
In both cases, you see a delay before the display is updated, right?
So what effect, if any, does the changing vs fixed frame title have on
each of these two use cases? And what effect does disabling
double-buffering have on each of these two cases?
AFAIR, you originally said that when the title is not updated, the
problem disappears. Then you said that the problem does NOT disappear
when the title is fixed, but having the title change makes it easier
to realize that the delay exists. Now you are saying something else.
This is what confuses me: what is the effect of the changing frame
title on the above two cases?
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fa750b074274fd5c6364fde874b8637f; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:39:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 26 Feb 2023 04:00:15 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 10:39:33 +0800 Message-ID: <87v8jp176i.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 431 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > The problem, indeed, could show up if the delay between me pressing > 'a' and the buffer being displayed could still reach 200-300ms even > with constant title bar. But it doesn't. Maybe the damage to Mutter's frame window is what is causing the confusion. Since the buffer swap happens immediately after the title is set, that seems plausible. What happens with an undecorated frame?
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Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id bp11-20020a170907918b00b008de10925a45sm1428047ejb.159.2023.02.25.18.00.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:00:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f161919-7ee4-e461-e688-797c76fa6d74@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 04:00:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9757d7e81bd2@HIDDEN> <1dafb35c-657c-037f-8244-4568b4e22fcd@HIDDEN> <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8716b41c9708333e6bdb@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 03:53, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >>> I mean: an MRE to reproduce the multi-second delay, which makes the >>> bug apparent even without a title bar. >> >> The delay is multi-second only with my personal config, correct, but I >> haven't been able to reproduce the problem with unchanging title bar, >> or without a title bar. >> > > Now I'm confused. I understood that you were able to reproduce the > multi-second delay with your config with an constant title bar. No, the constant title bar is what fixed it even with my config. Even the "multi-second delay" which potentially could have been a different problem (but it wasn't). > E.g. you said "But whether the title changes or not, I can easily see the delay between me pressing 'a' and the contents of the window being updated. Or its absence." I'm probably missing something. "Or its absence", yes. This was in response to Po's message: But in this case the frame title will never change, so no problem can show up. The problem, indeed, could show up if the delay between me pressing 'a' and the buffer being displayed could still reach 200-300ms even with constant title bar. But it doesn't.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 03:02, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >>> I think it's now clear that there is a bug in GNOME. The main >>> difference between running fullscreen and non-fullscreen in this >>> context is that the compositor is bypassed. This is mainly for >>> (fullscreen) games, who have direct access to the screen, which is >>> more performant. >> >> Again, when reproduction depends on Emacs changing the title bar, >> running it in a mode without the title bar might not be the best way >> to verify something. >> > > Hmmm... but you said (to Eli) that the title bar in fact was not an > essential element of the recipe? Or did I misunderstand something? The title bar that has the buffer name in it (and thus has to be updated when a buffer is visited), is necessary to reproduce the problem. I just said that an unchanging title bar does not bar me from being able to note the lack of the problem (because I originally described the problem as a delay between the title bar update and the frame refresh). >>> If you manage to create a MRE without your full config, you could >>> file a bug report and point to that difference between fullscreen and >>> non-fullscreen behavior. >> >> My MRE uses '-Q', I've posted it here recently (23/02/2023, 18:46). >> > > I mean: an MRE to reproduce the multi-second delay, which makes the bug > apparent even without a title bar. The delay is multi-second only with my personal config, correct, but I haven't been able to reproduce the problem with unchanging title bar, or without a title bar. >> You said you couldn't reproduce it, though. Different version of >> GNOME, perhaps? >> > > No, I don't use GNOME, what I meant it that I could not reproduce it on > any of the other window managers that are installed on my computer. > Sorry if that was unclear. I see, thank you. For anybody else who might want to try with GNOME, though, my installed version is 43.1 (one that comes with the latest Ubuntu release).
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Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id az34-20020a05600c602200b003e6efc0f91csm4136318wmb.42.2023.02.25.16.56.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:56:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <ab4b398f-0cf6-1a67-0eb0-a2b590b2be50@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:56:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <c1cb4dbd-a25b-b46c-8ac5-c421a213ee3b@HIDDEN> <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8716b41c97734e78145e@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 26/02/2023 02:41, Gregory Heytings wrote: > I think it's now clear that there is a bug in GNOME. The main > difference between running fullscreen and non-fullscreen in this context > is that the compositor is bypassed. This is mainly for (fullscreen) > games, who have direct access to the screen, which is more performant. Again, when reproduction depends on Emacs changing the title bar, running it in a mode without the title bar might not be the best way to verify something. > If you manage to create a MRE without your full config, you could file a > bug report and point to that difference between fullscreen and > non-fullscreen behavior. My MRE uses '-Q', I've posted it here recently (23/02/2023, 18:46). You said you couldn't reproduce it, though. Different version of GNOME, perhaps?
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Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a18-20020a5d53d2000000b002c70ce264bfsm3063883wrw.76.2023.02.25.16.39.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Feb 2023 16:39:54 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9o7UXTOBeAoN44arwrcWePUL" Message-ID: <4920c963-9e8c-659f-5685-1dfe1ab03ec0@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:39:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <87lekn40yi.fsf@HIDDEN> <e0f9beb3-6326-d2c2-05d1-32926e90af5f@HIDDEN> <835ybrnllt.fsf@HIDDEN> <6c9bc004-e696-3d18-2293-32c1abf339e1@HIDDEN> <83y1onm592.fsf@HIDDEN> <5fe94ac0-c44d-71ba-61d1-2e8a49443ee3@HIDDEN> <87cz5y489c.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87cz5y489c.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9o7UXTOBeAoN44arwrcWePUL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25/02/2023 07:35, Po Lu wrote: > I now think I know an easy way to test this theory for sure. Create > another frame, place it so that it is above the frame you are trying to > test, set its Z group to above and its alpha-background parameter to > 0.9, run some command that updates that frame once per second, and place > it above the first frame. > > Then, see if the text inserted appears only once an update happens to > the other frame. To be extra sure, run the other frame in another Emacs > process. OK, here's what I did: set frame parameters as you described and added a timer which inserts a character at the end of the buffer one per second. Then I launched a separate Emacs and positioned it entirely "below" the first one (fully covered, aside from the transparency effect). And started typing in it. Both frames were updated as expected. 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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2023 00:35:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 25 19:35:56 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41864 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pW51A-0006zC-ER for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 19:35:56 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45156) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pW518-0006z1-96 for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 19:35:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677371752; bh=X6cxq99DaemraYHwglqdD1nUMJQvj9jv+a1nXIHYggA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=KrWL2JZ28oMQt/bbeRigQLN5FdWUoX32nP726mBjPheFYkfvrRxB1c9IB7db4yPbQ PBplnF3lnHVXoiKjQSs5cT5ATBHPn3dXsLdFcmvUDunUuO0VRXpeiXWCTFl0I1Fr3L vmFKuFHYcseQiMmRIPXcRpzB09ZdhGGcAEXdNk4C0+RI9PJNiEj+Z8VoA56KXxirVS laNW/AAPN14r1i+ziDd0WL850r/5Yht81Br2O/TAdISGUdRVNZ6aN//JFQwzZvOWkp XDCueM1cSlWPl5ctOv0mBdqqpE+FMwZBM/+rcVN50eOdotphfZBMsAQ2NQfbZjtgPu TxXCOxT28ozlQ== Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 00:35:51 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <Luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <52DF31C9-3042-4B62-8FD2-E9525003E4C1@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <8716b41c973d77f20b30@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> <52DF31C9-3042-4B62-8FD2-E9525003E4C1@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> So this clearly points to a bug in the way GNOME handles the Emacs >> frame. There's one last thing you could try: under GNOME, try the same >> experiment, but with Emacs fullscreen. I've read that GNOME >> automatically disables its compositor when an app is fullscreen, but >> I'm not 100% sure that's the case. > > It doesn't disable its compositor, it just unredirects fullscreen > windows that it is 100% sure are opaque and obscuring all other managed > windows. > You're splitting hairs, aren't you? Perhaps "disable" is not the most accurate word, but the meaning is clear: the compositor is bypassed for fullscreen apps.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 25/02/2023 01:48, Gregory Heytings wrote: > > So this clearly points to a bug in the way GNOME handles the Emacs > frame. There's one last thing you could try: under GNOME, try the same > experiment, but with Emacs fullscreen. I've read that GNOME > automatically disables its compositor when an app is fullscreen, but I'm > not 100% sure that's the case. I am unable to reproduce this with Emacs fullscreen. But fullscreen mode removes the window chrome, including the titlebar, so that might have something to do with it.
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Emacs's >> startup was noticeably slower there as well, though. Just like under >> Window Maker. I wonder what could be the reason for both. > Since this issue is all about timing, I'm not sure if the slower > startup somehow makes the problem disappear or be masked, similarly to > adding printfs (although the printfs effect is much better explained > by some problem with damage tracking than by timing alone). Damage tracking is indeed the better explanation, but I've also had the problem disappear when a certain background window was present. Even when entirely occluded.
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Create > another frame, place it so that it is above the frame you are trying to > test, set its Z group to above and its alpha-background parameter to > 0.9, run some command that updates that frame once per second, and place > it above the first frame. > > Then, see if the text inserted appears only once an update happens to > the other frame. To be extra sure, run the other frame in another Emacs > process. Create a timer, you mean? Which would insert text over regular intervals? A code snippet would help, just so we're on the same page.
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On 25/02/2023 09:21, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army
knife of text editors wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Yes. Which means these X and GTK calls are not the direct culprit of
>> the delay.
> What happens if you add an explicit call to XFlush afterwards?
> If that makes it work, then the frame title delay is caused by some
> slowness after the call is made.
>
> An Xlib function will only place the request onto an output buffer,
> which is normally flushed when it becomes full or the next time Xlib
> decides to read input or wait for a reply from the X server. The
> library also performs optimizations on requests inside the output
> buffer, mostly those of the Poly* type. You have to call XFlush
> manually after making a request if you really want it to be sent.
Alas, this doesn't fix the problem:
diff --git a/src/xfns.c b/src/xfns.c
index 528ae61ca32..803a692bfbf 100644
--- a/src/xfns.c
+++ b/src/xfns.c
@@ -2211,6 +2211,8 @@ x_set_name_internal (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object
name)
#ifdef USE_GTK
gtk_window_set_title (GTK_WINDOW (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)),
SSDATA (encoded_name));
+ XFlush (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f));
+
#else /* not USE_GTK */
XSetWMName (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_OUTER_WINDOW (f), &text);
XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_OUTER_WINDOW (f),
@@ -2291,6 +2293,8 @@ x_set_name (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object name,
bool explicit)
name = f->title;
x_set_name_internal (f, name);
+
+ XFlush (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f));
}
/* This function should be called when the user's lisp code has
@@ -2331,6 +2335,8 @@ x_set_title (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object name,
Lisp_Object old_name)
CHECK_STRING (name);
x_set_name_internal (f, name);
+
+ XFlush (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f));
}
void
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Which means these X and GTK calls are not the direct culprit of > the delay. What happens if you add an explicit call to XFlush afterwards? If that makes it work, then the frame title delay is caused by some slowness after the call is made. An Xlib function will only place the request onto an output buffer, which is normally flushed when it becomes full or the next time Xlib decides to read input or wait for a reply from the X server. The library also performs optimizations on requests inside the output buffer, mostly those of the Poly* type. You have to call XFlush manually after making a request if you really want it to be sent.
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> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:49:05 +0200
> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>
> On 24/02/2023 23:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:03:12 +0200
> >> Cc:luangruo@HIDDEN,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,gregory@HIDDEN
> >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN>
> >>
> >> +int64_t now_millis() {
> >> + struct timespec now;
> >> + timespec_get(&now, TIME_UTC);
> >> +
> >> + return ((int64_t) now.tv_sec) * 1000 + ((int64_t) now.tv_nsec) / 1000;
> > ^^^^
> > That 1000 should be 1000000, right?
>
> Right, sorry. I misread it in the doc for "microseconds".
>
> The result makes no difference, though: now only zeros are printed (and
> sometimes 1):
>
> [x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: 0
> [x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: 0
Well, 1 msec is a far cry from 20 or 50...
> So the calls take < 1ms.
Yes. Which means these X and GTK calls are not the direct culprit of
the delay.
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I previously thought it happens >> when the frame's title changes, but now you are saying it (and the >> commit you mentioned) is unrelated, right? Then what_is_ related? >> Just the display-related activity in windows around Emacs? > > I press 'a' (which calls find-file) and see the delay between the > keypress and the buffer being displayed. > > When the title format is a constant, the aforementioned delay is > always instant/imperceptible. When the title format depends on the > file name, the delay can be quite noticeable (randomly). Judging by the symptoms you presented, this is likely some pathology in Mutter (the GNOME compositor), and should be reported to them, not us. I now think I know an easy way to test this theory for sure. Create another frame, place it so that it is above the frame you are trying to test, set its Z group to above and its alpha-background parameter to 0.9, run some command that updates that frame once per second, and place it above the first frame. Then, see if the text inserted appears only once an update happens to the other frame. To be extra sure, run the other frame in another Emacs process. Thanks.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 400dd8046c8737aa344fe004d6586eab; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 00:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 08:37:44 +0800 From: Po Lu <Luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <52DF31C9-3042-4B62-8FD2-E9525003E4C1@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 575 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) It doesn't disable its compositor, it just unredirects fullscreen windows t= hat it is 100% sure are opaque and obscuring all other managed windows=2E = If you want to test this, you will have to delete the opaque region change = I asked you to apply=2E >So this clearly points to a bug in the way GNOME handles the Emacs frame= =2E There's one last thing you could try: under GNOME, try the same experim= ent, but with Emacs fullscreen=2E I've read that GNOME automatically disab= les its compositor when an app is fullscreen, but I'm not 100% sure that's = the case=2E
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2023 23:48:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 18:48:48 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38582 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVhnz-0000MQ-Ld for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 18:48:47 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pVhnx-0000ME-Fq for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 18:48:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677282524; bh=AELK8tSwbFaIcpOHxbApC4gO8Zh9OeFBs0ryvlgVbCU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=zGdXnNS5VHcVhI5ARSTwJrExU6KizrC+rx4LSZl2QwHV4fhKlyNcQ3IgzjZgsZYIX TnkcLgJRVjm557vF0OvCxvNqfvqU497iV36Iy9VztSXMbLumBWPsA0ixy88hBBs2M7 mIrKUgNNKqvYIZ4g/0tMfOIheXwUhYnhOztoGwZA8l6Rgog6ExGtPHEYUtFAN9BZ25 2EZv9isk+z98K6u3aguy+1Xz2gfw8+N5rE7tO8wBOxHSrupGqw5Do7tnAohrYSBhEs gUO44FoD5zz3DCvXjber1C0hI0k3QjzmhosU0zfkv16LOXd7GCw0i6VBEUQFGa4jnJ mXbfeiAoi65mw== Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:48:43 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <5002b0b34bd381f6d1f9@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> <cd181871-993e-d472-7e24-dc7f85916782@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b7a73483fe3@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b0ee4220ba5@HIDDEN> <20e46a69-8b22-65b6-f725-4ab5e5ec41f0@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > Ok, I tried that. That Enlightenment thing is a universe into itself, > starting with a settings wizard and all; and somehow incompatible with > existing wi-fi network services. > Indeed. > > Anyway, I couldn't reproduce the problem under it either. > So this clearly points to a bug in the way GNOME handles the Emacs frame. There's one last thing you could try: under GNOME, try the same experiment, but with Emacs fullscreen. I've read that GNOME automatically disables its compositor when an app is fullscreen, but I'm not 100% sure that's the case. > > Emacs's startup was noticeably slower there as well, though. Just like > under Window Maker. I wonder what could be the reason for both. > That's weird, I don't see that here either, Emacs starts just as fast here, regardless of the window manager I use.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 25/02/2023 00:25, Gregory Heytings wrote: > >>> But IIUC Window Maker is not a compositing WM (which most of WMs >>> these days are) >> >> Indeed, and AFAIU this indicates that the bug is probably in GNOME. >> You could now try with a compositing window manager. A lightweight >> one is XFWM. >> > > On a second thought, if you want to try another compositing manager that > is easy to install and remove, Enlightenment is a better choice. Ok, I tried that. That Enlightenment thing is a universe into itself, starting with a settings wizard and all; and somehow incompatible with existing wi-fi network services. Anyway, I couldn't reproduce the problem under it either. Emacs's startup was noticeably slower there as well, though. Just like under Window Maker. I wonder what could be the reason for both.
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On 24/02/2023 23:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:03:12 +0200
>> Cc:luangruo@HIDDEN,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,gregory@HIDDEN
>> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN>
>>
>> +int64_t now_millis() {
>> + struct timespec now;
>> + timespec_get(&now, TIME_UTC);
>> +
>> + return ((int64_t) now.tv_sec) * 1000 + ((int64_t) now.tv_nsec) / 1000;
> ^^^^
> That 1000 should be 1000000, right?
Right, sorry. I misread it in the doc for "microseconds".
The result makes no difference, though: now only zeros are printed (and
sometimes 1):
[x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: 0
[x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: 0
So the calls take < 1ms.
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> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 23:03:12 +0200
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> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>
> +int64_t now_millis() {
> + struct timespec now;
> + timespec_get(&now, TIME_UTC);
> +
> + return ((int64_t) now.tv_sec) * 1000 + ((int64_t) now.tv_nsec) / 1000;
^^^^
That 1000 should be 1000000, right?
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On 24/02/2023 17:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 16:12:30 +0200
>> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>>
>>>> - Before this commit: the window title doesn't change, it's always
>>>> emacs@hostname. But when I press 'a' (bound to 'find-file' lambda),
>>>> there never is a noticeable delay before the window contents change. The
>>>> buffer is displayed instantly.
>>> How is this consistent with your previous finding that the problem
>>> exists in Emacs 25, 26, and 27. The change above is only present in
>>> Emacs 28. Does this mean that the problem 100-200ms delay and the
>>> original problem are two different problems?
>>
>> Easy: my configuration contains a customization for frame-title-format.
>>
>> It's set to
>>
>> (setq frame-title-format '(buffer-file-name "%f" ("%b")))
>>
>> All the time I spend bisecting the config I didn't think to change it
>> (it's the very first line). And this makes the problem appear with Emacs
>> 27 and 26 too.
>
> So the hypothesis now is that changes in the frame's title, which
> cause Emacs to update the title by issuing GTK and/or X calls, somehow
> cause the problem, is that right?
I suppose so.
>>> Anyway, if the changes in the frame's title are somehow related to
>>> this, their effect is to cause Emacs to call x_set_name_internal to
>>> display the new title. Could it be that this function takes such a
>>> long time to execute? Or does it have some strange effect on the WM?
>>
>> My vague (and likely wrong) guess would be that the WM knows it needs
>> some update from the Emacs window, gets it from the title bar before
>> everything else, and marks the update as completed.
>
> Can you please time that function anyway, if only to make sure the
> problem is elsewhere? How much time does it take x_set_name_internal
> since its call till it returns, when it actually changes the frame's
> title?
Okay, done. It was a reasonable guess, that if the update is
synchronous, it might stall for some reason. But that doesn't seem to be
the case. It takes about the same time when the bug manifests as when it
does not:
[x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: 49
[x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: 20
Here's the patch I used, if you want to check or modify it:
diff --git a/src/xfns.c b/src/xfns.c
index 528ae61ca32..b8ce75469c7 100644
--- a/src/xfns.c
+++ b/src/xfns.c
@@ -2238,6 +2238,13 @@ x_set_name_internal (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object
name)
}
}
+int64_t now_millis() {
+ struct timespec now;
+ timespec_get(&now, TIME_UTC);
+
+ return ((int64_t) now.tv_sec) * 1000 + ((int64_t) now.tv_nsec) / 1000;
+}
+
/* Change the name of frame F to NAME. If NAME is nil, set F's name to
x_id_name.
@@ -2290,7 +2297,11 @@ x_set_name (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object name,
bool explicit)
if (! NILP (f->title))
name = f->title;
+ int64_t was = now_millis();
+
x_set_name_internal (f, name);
+
+ fprintf (stderr, "[x_set_name] time to x_set_name_internal: %ld\n",
now_millis() - was);
}
/* This function should be called when the user's lisp code has
@@ -2330,7 +2341,11 @@ x_set_title (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object name,
Lisp_Object old_name)
else
CHECK_STRING (name);
+ int64_t was = now_millis();
+
x_set_name_internal (f, name);
+
+ fprintf (stderr, "[x_set_title] time to x_set_name_internal: %ld\n",
now_millis() - was);
}
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 17:57, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:51:05 +0200 >> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> >> >> So, now, when does the delay happen? I previously thought it happens >> when the frame's title changes, but now you are saying it (and the >> commit you mentioned) is unrelated, right? Then what _is_ related? >> Just the display-related activity in windows around Emacs? > > Also, if you use Emacs 25 with %b in frame-title-format, do you see > the problem? If you do, then double buffering is off the hook. I haven't been able to repro with Emacs 25, even with custom frame-title-format. Possibly because it starts with a 2x larger frame. But maybe due to double buffering.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 17:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I just said that unchanging title doesn't stop me from seeing the delay >> when there is, in fact, a delay. > So, now, when does the delay happen? I previously thought it happens > when the frame's title changes, but now you are saying it (and the > commit you mentioned) is unrelated, right? Then what_is_ related? > Just the display-related activity in windows around Emacs? I press 'a' (which calls find-file) and see the delay between the keypress and the buffer being displayed. When the title format is a constant, the aforementioned delay is always instant/imperceptible. When the title format depends on the file name, the delay can be quite noticeable (randomly).
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2023 15:57:23 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 10:57:23 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVaRn-00022g-BE for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:57:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34014) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pVaRl-00022R-PJ for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:57:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pVaRg-0006ek-Hm; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:57:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=jdi89WduAko1q2y4Q0NCb7Df1BqsTk7FMrUwqAbHh84=; b=LthF6YvzMDiK kGfiz5YWF+wu/BTusKikT50lOYZ1hR+HriXdjBqqAHRfJ1V/Mz7XhpWdVKVrhKNZWzXnoeiPcaYuu 5yMCohsYz9OisUi9WVpgnl54bFc5oK10e3G4/rlsQR2dcTy39PO8a8ofVuHZFE+Sw9WPOQSNysm9t gTuQOtz9Py5sE3dkZmLq/kfnqu1mO36USwv4CYlGyzU+DUwYydJlnjB2qhR/9j+ITcjcP+LW5TTns PF33L4RQaxFLom+QcwvVkx+B5oCeyO3xFG0gaHIZ2NJykX4nhcOlep2QAaAEqYB74/5gShA5Ek8Jx mTPDTLTTTLh20jxGWcXe2Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pVaRf-0007W6-TQ; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:57:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:57:15 +0200 Message-Id: <83wn47m4ys.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: dgutov@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <83y1onm592.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:51:05 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <87lekn40yi.fsf@HIDDEN> <e0f9beb3-6326-d2c2-05d1-32926e90af5f@HIDDEN> <835ybrnllt.fsf@HIDDEN> <6c9bc004-e696-3d18-2293-32c1abf339e1@HIDDEN> <83y1onm592.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:51:05 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > So, now, when does the delay happen? I previously thought it happens > when the frame's title changes, but now you are saying it (and the > commit you mentioned) is unrelated, right? Then what _is_ related? > Just the display-related activity in windows around Emacs? Also, if you use Emacs 25 with %b in frame-title-format, do you see the problem? If you do, then double buffering is off the hook.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2023 15:51:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 10:51:12 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37979 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVaLo-0001rZ-Hm for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:51:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pVaLm-0001rL-CM for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:51:10 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pVaLg-0004ie-W9; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:51:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=FiFpiJsDBOlLbe6y5dsTT/GVd7fLYe47nneQj6md2TU=; b=mhKeHfoD2eRo XXbY8qaR1d6v3Qlne0n09pYpyHok5WS5O1OnTIqZwQxC/EMUtMlgWjeyoz2irLCk6eRM12gtKdZTO 7bub9jYMcLDWQjf6y6rlmGqkFdz83doMbtXLKU1F6kVcsUXNTW4YAfXI7dDZemJy1V0NBYDavIgN8 9IksBAkLL3lBmniG4bGu6yz4afIYBmYN+0gmYWBy3dwF3l/HrlCI3IM6/PGazWDVj0idO43jO8tGq uzzorPdMy761KYneYf99sCq9NJdo1CmUERV5sibW6mNJ0dz8Xpiam0DKFpaQylX23rZtyeUxCOdFA nGPymhlEjC9E6PnYctLqSw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pVaLg-0006M4-Fr; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 10:51:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:51:05 +0200 Message-Id: <83y1onm592.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <6c9bc004-e696-3d18-2293-32c1abf339e1@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:35:20 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <87lekn40yi.fsf@HIDDEN> <e0f9beb3-6326-d2c2-05d1-32926e90af5f@HIDDEN> <835ybrnllt.fsf@HIDDEN> <6c9bc004-e696-3d18-2293-32c1abf339e1@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:35:20 +0200 > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, gregory@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > > On 24/02/2023 17:12, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 16:14:31 +0200 > >> Cc: Gregory Heytings<gregory@HIDDEN>,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, > >> Eli Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN> > >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> > >> > >> The problem is in the noticeable delay between me pressing 'a' and > >> seeing the contents of the window updated. > >> > >> When the frame title doesn't change, we simply can't track it as an > >> additional symptom (that the buffer has been successfully visited, but > >> the frame display remains the same). > >> > >> But whether the title changes or not, I can easily see the delay between > >> me pressing 'a' and the contents of the window being updated. Or its > >> absence. > > So now you are saying that the changing title of the frame is_not_ > > the cause of the problem? You are now saying that the delay_always_ > > happens, and that the change in the frame's title just makes it easier > > to spot that delay? > > I just said that unchanging title doesn't stop me from seeing the delay > when there is, in fact, a delay. So, now, when does the delay happen? I previously thought it happens when the frame's title changes, but now you are saying it (and the commit you mentioned) is unrelated, right? Then what _is_ related? Just the display-related activity in windows around Emacs?
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Fri, 24 Feb 2023 07:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d21-20020a1c7315000000b003b47b80cec3sm3053192wmb.42.2023.02.24.07.35.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Feb 2023 07:35:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6c9bc004-e696-3d18-2293-32c1abf339e1@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:35:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> <87lekn40yi.fsf@HIDDEN> <e0f9beb3-6326-d2c2-05d1-32926e90af5f@HIDDEN> <835ybrnllt.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <835ybrnllt.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 17:12, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 16:14:31 +0200 >> Cc: Gregory Heytings<gregory@HIDDEN>,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, >> Eli Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN> >> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> >> >> The problem is in the noticeable delay between me pressing 'a' and >> seeing the contents of the window updated. >> >> When the frame title doesn't change, we simply can't track it as an >> additional symptom (that the buffer has been successfully visited, but >> the frame display remains the same). >> >> But whether the title changes or not, I can easily see the delay between >> me pressing 'a' and the contents of the window being updated. Or its >> absence. > So now you are saying that the changing title of the frame is_not_ > the cause of the problem? You are now saying that the delay_always_ > happens, and that the change in the frame's title just makes it easier > to spot that delay? I just said that unchanging title doesn't stop me from seeing the delay when there is, in fact, a delay. > So when you earlier wrote that a constant frame title makes the > problem disappear, you were mistaken, and the constant title just > makes the problem harder to spot? And the delay exists no matter > whether the frame's title changes or not? No, I stand by the earlier assessment. Sorry if some of the phrasing was confusing.
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> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 16:12:30 +0200
> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>
> >> - Before this commit: the window title doesn't change, it's always
> >> emacs@hostname. But when I press 'a' (bound to 'find-file' lambda),
> >> there never is a noticeable delay before the window contents change. The
> >> buffer is displayed instantly.
> > How is this consistent with your previous finding that the problem
> > exists in Emacs 25, 26, and 27. The change above is only present in
> > Emacs 28. Does this mean that the problem 100-200ms delay and the
> > original problem are two different problems?
>
> Easy: my configuration contains a customization for frame-title-format.
>
> It's set to
>
> (setq frame-title-format '(buffer-file-name "%f" ("%b")))
>
> All the time I spend bisecting the config I didn't think to change it
> (it's the very first line). And this makes the problem appear with Emacs
> 27 and 26 too.
So the hypothesis now is that changes in the frame's title, which
cause Emacs to update the title by issuing GTK and/or X calls, somehow
cause the problem, is that right?
> > Anyway, if the changes in the frame's title are somehow related to
> > this, their effect is to cause Emacs to call x_set_name_internal to
> > display the new title. Could it be that this function takes such a
> > long time to execute? Or does it have some strange effect on the WM?
>
> My vague (and likely wrong) guess would be that the WM knows it needs
> some update from the Emacs window, gets it from the title bar before
> everything else, and marks the update as completed.
Can you please time that function anyway, if only to make sure the
problem is elsewhere? How much time does it take x_set_name_internal
since its call till it returns, when it actually changes the frame's
title?
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Which one do you >> recommend? Perhaps we should choose one that still uses GTK3? >> >> I use stock Ubuntu (22.10). >> > > Window Maker, for example. I think its package name is "wmaker". Ok, I tried with Window Maker, and it doesn't reproduce. But IIUC Window Maker is not a compositing WM (which most of WMs these days are), and also, somehow, Emacs startup (with -Q, without init script) was like 3x slower there than under GNOME. So the difference could be caused by higher latencies as well.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 15:58, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> I vaguely recall them talking about such problem and working on it, >> from certain dev blogs. Though I though it was supposedly fixed in >> GNOME 43.1 (which I'm using). >> >> But how does it relate to our situation? If GNOME refreshes windows >> more often that it has to, then it's a performance problem for them >> (re-rendering takes cycles), but not a correctness problem. >> >> The only things it should do to us, is helping to mask our problem >> (when Emacs doesn't refresh quickly enough) by forcing additional >> repaints. > > The problem is that I suspect Mutter is forgetting to queue a buffer > flip or to update its back buffer with Emacs's window contents, since > judging by the logs you sent, Emacs is making the same buffer swapping > requests regardless of whether or not the bug can be reproduced. > >>> But before you do so, please try the following: >>> - Use a less resource intensive testing program (not Firefox or >>> Telegram Desktop) such as ``xclock -update 1''. >>> - Update to the latest version of GNOME Shell. >> >> I can reproduce the bug when the Emacs window covers xclock. > > Right, what if you move xclock so only half of the clock is obscured? If both of these are true: - xclock is only partially obscured (half-ish). - The updated frequency is high (xclock -update 0.001) then I can't reproduce the problem anymore. If either is false (e.g. if I'm using 'xclock -update 1'), then the problem reproduces still, albeit with a little lesser frequency. > Also, when you run ``xprop'' and then click on Emacs's window, what is > the value of the property _NET_WM_OPAQUE_REGION? _NET_WM_OPAQUE_REGION(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 1456, 1296 > Another idea would be to place a constantly updating transluscent window > on top of Emacs, which will force mutter to copy the up-to-date contents > of the frame in to its back buffer. But I know of no easy test program > for that, I might write one tomorrow. Thank you.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 16:01, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"foo bar foo\")" >> >> indeed makes the problem go away. Both the 200-300ms delay in my repro >> scenario, and the multi-second delay with my personal configuration. > But in this case the frame title will never change, so no problem can > show up. > > BTW, is this related to the buffer swapping problem at all? Isn't that > what we were trying to debug? The problem is in the noticeable delay between me pressing 'a' and seeing the contents of the window updated. When the frame title doesn't change, we simply can't track it as an additional symptom (that the buffer has been successfully visited, but the frame display remains the same). But whether the title changes or not, I can easily see the delay between me pressing 'a' and the contents of the window being updated. Or its absence.
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On 24/02/2023 15:46, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:12:53 +0200
>> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Po Lu<luangruo@HIDDEN>,61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>> Eli Zaretskii<eliz@HIDDEN>
>>
>> 817dd546497aadefbe9acc8762e3f7190799c5e6 is the first bad commit
>> commit 817dd546497aadefbe9acc8762e3f7190799c5e6
>> Author: Stefan Kangas<stefan@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Sun Sep 13 18:24:31 2020 +0200
>>
>> Improve frame-title-format and icon-title-format
>>
>> * src/xdisp.c (syms_of_xdisp): Replace 'invocation-name' with the text
>> "%b - GNU Emacs" and replace "@" with " at ". (Bug#41147)
>> * etc/NEWS: Announce the above change.
>>
>> etc/NEWS | 11 +++++++++++
>> src/xdisp.c | 3 +--
>> 2 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> Triple-checked that as well: the commit before it doesn't reproduce the
>> above scenario, and this one does.
>>
>> Looking at the commit, there is another difference in behavior too:
>>
>> - With this commit, all is as described previously: I press 'a', window
>> title changes, there is a delay (randomly), then the window contents change.
>>
>> - Before this commit: the window title doesn't change, it's always
>> emacs@hostname. But when I press 'a' (bound to 'find-file' lambda),
>> there never is a noticeable delay before the window contents change. The
>> buffer is displayed instantly.
> How is this consistent with your previous finding that the problem
> exists in Emacs 25, 26, and 27. The change above is only present in
> Emacs 28. Does this mean that the problem 100-200ms delay and the
> original problem are two different problems?
Easy: my configuration contains a customization for frame-title-format.
It's set to
(setq frame-title-format '(buffer-file-name "%f" ("%b")))
All the time I spend bisecting the config I didn't think to change it
(it's the very first line). And this makes the problem appear with Emacs
27 and 26 too.
The only question that's still not clear is why this causes a
multi-second delay with my personal config, and only 200-300ms with
'emacs -Q'. But changing the value fixes both.
> Anyway, if the changes in the frame's title are somehow related to
> this, their effect is to cause Emacs to call x_set_name_internal to
> display the new title. Could it be that this function takes such a
> long time to execute? Or does it have some strange effect on the WM?
My vague (and likely wrong) guess would be that the WM knows it needs
some update from the Emacs window, gets it from the title bar before
everything else, and marks the update as completed.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 471c56e53b1b47083d3f03d5b09e7e8c; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 14:01:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:46:15 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 22:01:09 +0800 Message-ID: <87lekn40yi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 425 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"foo bar foo\")" > > indeed makes the problem go away. Both the 200-300ms delay in my repro > scenario, and the multi-second delay with my personal configuration. But in this case the frame title will never change, so no problem can show up. BTW, is this related to the buffer swapping problem at all? Isn't that what we were trying to debug?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d91a7d13674122a159ea352a5bc06085; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:58:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <e962fa9d-58e5-d1b8-8880-c14c54902425@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:32:32 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <83ilfsrj4z.fsf@HIDDEN> <871qmgoh08.fsf@HIDDEN> <51980b63-8387-3a25-8b08-ec26e656cebd@HIDDEN> <87r0ug5xu5.fsf@HIDDEN> <f54b020f-f586-59b7-d81f-669632e22b98@HIDDEN> <87edqf6fpm.fsf@HIDDEN> <44f4a642-c631-f81d-8a79-1aa5116f214a@HIDDEN> <87y1on43xs.fsf@HIDDEN> <e962fa9d-58e5-d1b8-8880-c14c54902425@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:58:37 +0800 Message-ID: <87pm9z412q.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1587 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > I vaguely recall them talking about such problem and working on it, > from certain dev blogs. Though I though it was supposedly fixed in > GNOME 43.1 (which I'm using). > > But how does it relate to our situation? If GNOME refreshes windows > more often that it has to, then it's a performance problem for them > (re-rendering takes cycles), but not a correctness problem. > > The only things it should do to us, is helping to mask our problem > (when Emacs doesn't refresh quickly enough) by forcing additional > repaints. The problem is that I suspect Mutter is forgetting to queue a buffer flip or to update its back buffer with Emacs's window contents, since judging by the logs you sent, Emacs is making the same buffer swapping requests regardless of whether or not the bug can be reproduced. >> But before you do so, please try the following: >> - Use a less resource intensive testing program (not Firefox or >> Telegram Desktop) such as ``xclock -update 1''. >> - Update to the latest version of GNOME Shell. > > I can reproduce the bug when the Emacs window covers xclock. Right, what if you move xclock so only half of the clock is obscured? Also, when you run ``xprop'' and then click on Emacs's window, what is the value of the property _NET_WM_OPAQUE_REGION? Another idea would be to place a constantly updating transluscent window on top of Emacs, which will force mutter to copy the up-to-date contents of the frame in to its back buffer. But I know of no easy test program for that, I might write one tomorrow.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2023 13:55:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 08:55:02 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVYXO-0006fQ-Jd for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 08:55:02 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pVYXN-0006f0-Jx for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 08:55:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677246900; bh=J5R/XalHD4qLj0dCgIyq10B9GfRX3TwLO48znEgs7UU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=4BFBOqmdblzXINvZJGq+Ruu83w/Fe120f4vftbsO4VjQ5vj8cek+i8+gh21lrNW8Y gI7HsZ9MCdW/vvjZmvw4bXwgwvjUoZ7jDPqd7w3tufVeFSdHDTrUGdGN/45RyAC7r4 AFVzIrwDWvYfA32eZ7CywejwKXotFgxU3c+g5Qz9o0RNHEHwIhI4EH+IPjHpJZZTsI O/VTtAmbeEz4bRyc+JWtECuujVlTN/vj9ZM0GgIxlJjrblzNjFjofvpcvasJMNnu6W 4ZI9ejhkP/VZBfJ48s5KdNR7H0a/J1ADW2jiv3vDxJvOPiN+hKykLcWY6nwAVsAzeQ Qo9e93mGMfMdg== Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:54:59 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <5002b0b34b1213122157@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> <628d9354-e334-0ad5-39c8-91081a5e9238@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > I don't have any of them installed, but I can try. Which one do you > recommend? Perhaps we should choose one that still uses GTK3? > > I use stock Ubuntu (22.10). > Window Maker, for example. I think its package name is "wmaker". > > Hmm, yes. > > --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"foo bar foo\")" > > indeed makes the problem go away. Both the 200-300ms delay in my repro > scenario, and the multi-second delay with my personal configuration. > That's already a step forward. But as Eli said, it's surprising that you could reproduce the bug with earlier Emacsen in which the title bar was (by default) constant.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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(Bug#41147) > * etc/NEWS: Announce the above change. > > etc/NEWS | 11 +++++++++++ > src/xdisp.c | 3 +-- > 2 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > Triple-checked that as well: the commit before it doesn't reproduce the > above scenario, and this one does. > > Looking at the commit, there is another difference in behavior too: > > - With this commit, all is as described previously: I press 'a', window > title changes, there is a delay (randomly), then the window contents change. > > - Before this commit: the window title doesn't change, it's always > emacs@hostname. But when I press 'a' (bound to 'find-file' lambda), > there never is a noticeable delay before the window contents change. The > buffer is displayed instantly. How is this consistent with your previous finding that the problem exists in Emacs 25, 26, and 27. The change above is only present in Emacs 28. Does this mean that the problem 100-200ms delay and the original problem are two different problems? Anyway, if the changes in the frame's title are somehow related to this, their effect is to cause Emacs to call x_set_name_internal to display the new title. Could it be that this function takes such a long time to execute? Or does it have some strange effect on the WM?
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 15:20, Gregory Heytings wrote: >> >> So, I finished bisecting, at it points to: >> >> 817dd546497aadefbe9acc8762e3f7190799c5e6 is the first bad commit >> commit 817dd546497aadefbe9acc8762e3f7190799c5e6 >> Author: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> >> Date: Sun Sep 13 18:24:31 2020 +0200 >> >> Improve frame-title-format and icon-title-format >> >> * src/xdisp.c (syms_of_xdisp): Replace 'invocation-name' with the text >> "%b - GNU Emacs" and replace "@" with " at ". (Bug#41147) >> * etc/NEWS: Announce the above change. >> > > Aha. This is rather surprising, but it also means that GNOME has > perhaps nothing to do with the bug. As I said in my other post, can you > possibly try to reproduce the bug with your config with a non-GNOME > window manager? (I don't know what distro you use, but there are a > number of very lightweight window managers that you can easily install > and remove.) I don't have any of them installed, but I can try. Which one do you recommend? Perhaps we should choose one that still uses GTK3? I use stock Ubuntu (22.10). >> - Before this commit: the window title doesn't change, it's always >> emacs@hostname. But when I press 'a' (bound to 'find-file' lambda), >> there never is a noticeable delay before the window contents change. >> The buffer is displayed instantly. >> > > This means that if you set frame-title-format to some constant string in > Emacs 29 the bug should also disappear. Can you check that? Hmm, yes. --eval "(setq frame-title-format \"foo bar foo\")" indeed makes the problem go away. Both the 200-300ms delay in my repro scenario, and the multi-second delay with my personal configuration.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 14:56, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: > Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> I haven't tried this one yet (busy bisecting), but I can report that a >> window behind Emacs, even when Emacs is not transparent, and when the >> window is not visible, can stop the problem from happening. >> >> This bit me during bisecting: e.g. I can have a video in Firefox >> playing in the background (not visible), or the Telegram window open >> (not visible; no animations), and the problem goes away. >> >> This probably contributed to not having this bug reported sooner as well. > This is very likely a bug in GNOME! > > A serious one at that. Please report it to their developers, preferably > with the output of GNOME Shell run with the environment variable > ``MUTTER_DEBUG'' set to 1. I vaguely recall them talking about such problem and working on it, from certain dev blogs. Though I though it was supposedly fixed in GNOME 43.1 (which I'm using). But how does it relate to our situation? If GNOME refreshes windows more often that it has to, then it's a performance problem for them (re-rendering takes cycles), but not a correctness problem. The only things it should do to us, is helping to mask our problem (when Emacs doesn't refresh quickly enough) by forcing additional repaints. > But before you do so, please try the following: > > - Use a less resource intensive testing program (not Firefox or > Telegram Desktop) such as ``xclock -update 1''. > > - Update to the latest version of GNOME Shell. I can reproduce the bug when the Emacs window covers xclock.
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On 24/02/2023 02:59, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army
knife of text editors wrote:
> The easy thing to do is to place a window containing changing content
> (such as an animation or image) behind Emacs, apply the following
> change:
>
> diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
> index 5e6378db30d..8459dd33297 100644
> --- a/src/xterm.c
> +++ b/src/xterm.c
> @@ -5222,37 +5222,37 @@ x_update_opaque_region (struct frame *f, XEvent *configure)
> if (!FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->alpha_bits)
> return;
>
> - if (f->alpha_background < 1.0)
> + /* if (f->alpha_background < 1.0) */
> XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
> FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
> XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
> NULL, 0);
> -#ifndef HAVE_GTK3
> - else
> - XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
> - FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
> - XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
> - (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4);
> -#else
> - else if (FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f))
> - XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
> - FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
> - XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
> - (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4);
> - else
> - {
> - /* This causes child frames to not update correctly for an
> - unknown reason. (bug#55779) */
> - if (!FRAME_PARENT_FRAME (f))
> - {
> - object_class = G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f));
> - class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (object_class);
> -
> - if (class->style_updated)
> - class->style_updated (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f));
> - }
> - }
> -#endif
> +/* #ifndef HAVE_GTK3 */
> +/* else */
> +/* XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f), */
> +/* FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region, */
> +/* XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace, */
> +/* (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4); */
> +/* #else */
> +/* else if (FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f)) */
> +/* XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f), */
> +/* FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region, */
> +/* XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace, */
> +/* (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4); */
> +/* else */
> +/* { */
> +/* /\* This causes child frames to not update correctly for an */
> +/* unknown reason. (bug#55779) *\/ */
> +/* if (!FRAME_PARENT_FRAME (f)) */
> +/* { */
> +/* object_class = G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)); */
> +/* class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (object_class); */
> +
> +/* if (class->style_updated) */
> +/* class->style_updated (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)); */
> +/* } */
> +/* } */
> +/* #endif */
> }
>
> and see whether or not the problem can still be reproduced that way.
Okay, I've tried this one now, and the problem still reproduces.
For the background window I tried both 'xclock -update 1' and 'xclock
-update 0.001', made no difference.
The Emacs window didn't look any different, though (not sure if it was
supposed to look more transparent).
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e7ccecdfee2c777804488afb19b4ed1c; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:29:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:20:55 +0000") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> <0a7313f0-765c-aeca-ae50-6d8adbfb04ed@HIDDEN> <5002b0b34b1067395698@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 21:29:10 +0800 Message-ID: <87ttzb42ft.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21221 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 759 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > Aha. This is rather surprising, but it also means that GNOME has > perhaps nothing to do with the bug. As I said in my other post, can > you possibly try to reproduce the bug with your config with a > non-GNOME window manager? (I don't know what distro you use, but there > are a number of very lightweight window managers that you can easily > install and remove.) This very likely points to GNOME being the source of the bug. The title may somehow be making Mutter refuse to update the screen after it receives damage notifications from DBESwapBuffers. I asked Dimitry to place an xclock window behind Emacs which changes every second. If that fixes the problem, then it is certainly a bug in GNOME.
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On 23/02/2023 18:46, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> Here's one repro:
>
> emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval
> "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda ()
> (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\")))"
>
> Where "test.c" is the name of a file in the current dir. Different files
> can work, but for some the repro doesn't happen, like those, apparently,
> which start with a paren (which makes show-paren-mode trigger its own
> redisplay).
>
> So, to repro:
>
> - Run the command above
> - Press "a"
> - Look for the delay between the title bar and the window updates
>
> With the above 'emacs -Q' it's not as prominent as with my config, but
> it can reach what looks like 100-200ms. Once every 10 tries or so.
>
> This particular scenario, however, I haven't been able to repro with
> Emacs 25 or 26 or 27. It does reproduce with Emacs 28 and 29.
So, I finished bisecting, at it points to:
817dd546497aadefbe9acc8762e3f7190799c5e6 is the first bad commit
commit 817dd546497aadefbe9acc8762e3f7190799c5e6
Author: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN>
Date: Sun Sep 13 18:24:31 2020 +0200
Improve frame-title-format and icon-title-format
* src/xdisp.c (syms_of_xdisp): Replace 'invocation-name' with the text
"%b - GNU Emacs" and replace "@" with " at ". (Bug#41147)
* etc/NEWS: Announce the above change.
etc/NEWS | 11 +++++++++++
src/xdisp.c | 3 +--
2 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Triple-checked that as well: the commit before it doesn't reproduce the
above scenario, and this one does.
Looking at the commit, there is another difference in behavior too:
- With this commit, all is as described previously: I press 'a', window
title changes, there is a delay (randomly), then the window contents change.
- Before this commit: the window title doesn't change, it's always
emacs@hostname. But when I press 'a' (bound to 'find-file' lambda),
there never is a noticeable delay before the window contents change. The
buffer is displayed instantly.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes:
> I haven't tried this one yet (busy bisecting), but I can report that a
> window behind Emacs, even when Emacs is not transparent, and when the
> window is not visible, can stop the problem from happening.
>
> This bit me during bisecting: e.g. I can have a video in Firefox
> playing in the background (not visible), or the Telegram window open
> (not visible; no animations), and the problem goes away.
>
> This probably contributed to not having this bug reported sooner as well.
This is very likely a bug in GNOME!
A serious one at that. Please report it to their developers, preferably
with the output of GNOME Shell run with the environment variable
``MUTTER_DEBUG'' set to 1.
But before you do so, please try the following:
- Use a less resource intensive testing program (not Firefox or
Telegram Desktop) such as ``xclock -update 1''.
- Update to the latest version of GNOME Shell.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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Yes, because GNOME Shell is the program which actually displays the window contents after Emacs finishes updating it. GNOME might be forgetting it must update the display after Emacs finishes. > Do they provide some knobs to tune the damage tracking, per chance? > If so, maybe Dmitry could play with those knobs. Unfortunately not.
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On 24/02/2023 02:59, Po Lu wrote:
> I suspect this may be a problem with damage tracking under GNOME's
> compositing manager. Given that none of the output seems to be
> problematic.
>
> The easy thing to do is to place a window containing changing content
> (such as an animation or image) behind Emacs, apply the following
> change:
>
> diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
> index 5e6378db30d..8459dd33297 100644
> --- a/src/xterm.c
> +++ b/src/xterm.c
> @@ -5222,37 +5222,37 @@ x_update_opaque_region (struct frame *f, XEvent *configure)
> if (!FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->alpha_bits)
> return;
>
> - if (f->alpha_background < 1.0)
> + /* if (f->alpha_background < 1.0) */
> XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
> FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
> XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
> NULL, 0);
> -#ifndef HAVE_GTK3
> - else
> - XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
> - FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
> - XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
> - (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4);
> -#else
> - else if (FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f))
> - XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
> - FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
> - XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
> - (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4);
> - else
> - {
> - /* This causes child frames to not update correctly for an
> - unknown reason. (bug#55779) */
> - if (!FRAME_PARENT_FRAME (f))
> - {
> - object_class = G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f));
> - class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (object_class);
> -
> - if (class->style_updated)
> - class->style_updated (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f));
> - }
> - }
> -#endif
> +/* #ifndef HAVE_GTK3 */
> +/* else */
> +/* XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f), */
> +/* FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region, */
> +/* XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace, */
> +/* (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4); */
> +/* #else */
> +/* else if (FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f)) */
> +/* XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f), */
> +/* FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region, */
> +/* XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace, */
> +/* (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4); */
> +/* else */
> +/* { */
> +/* /\* This causes child frames to not update correctly for an */
> +/* unknown reason. (bug#55779) *\/ */
> +/* if (!FRAME_PARENT_FRAME (f)) */
> +/* { */
> +/* object_class = G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)); */
> +/* class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (object_class); */
> +
> +/* if (class->style_updated) */
> +/* class->style_updated (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)); */
> +/* } */
> +/* } */
> +/* #endif */
> }
>
> and see whether or not the problem can still be reproduced that way.
I haven't tried this one yet (busy bisecting), but I can report that a
window behind Emacs, even when Emacs is not transparent, and when the
window is not visible, can stop the problem from happening.
This bit me during bisecting: e.g. I can have a video in Firefox playing
in the background (not visible), or the Telegram window open (not
visible; no animations), and the problem goes away.
This probably contributed to not having this bug reported sooner as well.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2023 11:59:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 06:59:04 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36165 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVWjA-00078b-At for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 06:59:04 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pVWj7-000782-VY for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 06:59:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677239941; bh=rUwdy9UnU7LLZzJPEX5Mjoet6klpPqfG1TQ8rbh6z+w=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=YAoxDXOBzjefxOtTxsdr+sK/N/4Fjh0+tOjEXNJmDMTF5neLqg2MbBvxgCHbMHBwC EpBp9WaL5343C+nHVOaVmC+/eVf6/1Gq0LmQaWYorgRdm1Ct5OCkSZpCa6r04FrVvo yfjGdSF3amzNe4DEqGMMpIque7Mc9RCV9D8hCkxFaXia9dWlJc9prgw4+sdIp6k+Q5 fgLPgKeaKppsDNsmHTZNgVrkliWqAaeAnJ6L/rAVRXi/09qEJ5vTGAzDdaP/O2Qtp7 ZYhPiQbXNCtyhymGNILnXsWLOLbAg7EIpnNsfJIax1Lxru3/sirVMEIi8kk0rnzOmp 9XqmQyqQ5Ky+w== Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 11:59:00 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <83zg93o7j4.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <5002b0b34bec8b9695a3@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <83ilfsrj4z.fsf@HIDDEN> <871qmgoh08.fsf@HIDDEN> <51980b63-8387-3a25-8b08-ec26e656cebd@HIDDEN> <87r0ug5xu5.fsf@HIDDEN> <f54b020f-f586-59b7-d81f-669632e22b98@HIDDEN> <87edqf6fpm.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zg93o7j4.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> I suspect this may be a problem with damage tracking under GNOME's >> compositing manager. > > So you are saying that GNOME needs to implement well what Emacs has > implemented for ages in dispnew.c, in update_window and its subroutines? > To check whether GNOME indeed has something to do with that bug, Dmitry could try to reproduce that bug on another (non-GNOME) machine with his config. Can you perhaps do that, Dmitry?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2023 11:55:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 24 06:55:10 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVWfN-0006xr-Q8 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 06:55:10 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:42796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pVWfL-0006xe-A1 for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2023 06:55:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677239705; bh=8SqM5oQpGCnCYzetPs2zzuTnXHtGYA5m+WWLmdAE0TE=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=Dgk+aFhvbbLprXms/UjR+rAKzM63XS9H62aJMnD2H2tPGukhiZpTCsxlmnrcSSPA+ 1S98Lyns5Ywb+D1r2+huzyc4XXaFahYMuQMIKVn1cgiTrEKDJQw06152suzmWP4AS5 NQUz5DIe2NkHu5Msj5lAbbYLO01XCxOtlSTWfZ8IbD0WH+uujVXZcO/DLKF3fLZ3wA HQxw81D4Qu+MqxeB1uPsp5CKYSiz9rB19SQYR++Ki6IBo4y7s/jocUlfc9YJ+qbFa8 0ifBmG/eBlzHRontvGBw3wb80pLxgsEFcwhjUvkJSxgkgU+7TEMgVrGYueDHgRzTUD i8CKctcIxvXkw== Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 11:55:05 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <5002b0b34b7f72126f6d@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> <853eca8f-5850-dd73-7601-4fad92613ab9@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > Here's one repro: > > emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval > "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () > (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\")))" > > Where "test.c" is the name of a file in the current dir. Different files > can work, but for some the repro doesn't happen, like those, apparently, > which start with a paren (which makes show-paren-mode trigger its own > redisplay). > > So, to repro: > > - Run the command above > - Press "a" > - Look for the delay between the title bar and the window updates > > With the above 'emacs -Q' it's not as prominent as with my config, but > it can reach what looks like 100-200ms. Once every 10 tries or so. > I tried that recipe here, with Emacs 29 and xdisp.c, and after a rather large number of attemps I think I can conclude that I don't see what you see.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61667; Package emacs.
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Once every 10 tries or so. > >>> Isn't that the 100-ms delay we wait for the initial frame to finish > >>> displaying, since that requires that we receive some messages from X? > >> Probably not: in this scenario I usually wait for the frame to finish > >> resizing, rendering, etc, and for*scratch* to be displayed properly, > >> and then I press 'a'. > > And without double-buffering you see no such delays? > > Yep: as soon as I add > > --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((inhibit-double-buffering . t)))" > > to the command line invocation, the effect disappears. > > > not even the > > short ones of 100ms? > > It might be more like 200-300ms, by the way. Sounds like for some reason we don't swap the back buffer to the screen? Po Lu, is there any reason which could delay or prevent that? Like perhaps we decide that the updated frame is not up-to-date or something?
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 24/02/2023 02:59, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: >> Not sure what you mean. 'emacs -nw'? Or run a separate X server and >> Emacs inside it, launched from a tty? > To run Emacs inside the tty, and make it connect to your X server > running GNOME. Assuming that is display #0, > > emacs -Q -display :0 Okay. Please clarify: do you still want me to do this part, given that redirecting to a file worked fine already?
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Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes:
> Then it reproduces. But since I'm not seeing the output live, I can't
> answer the question "what is printed when the problem happens".
>
> I'm attaching four logs anyway: alternating between when the problem
> reproduced, and when it did not. Otherwise the scenario was almost or
> exactly the same, up to the characters typed.
>
> out1.txt and out3.txt - reproduced.
> out2.txt and out4.txt - did not.
I suspect this may be a problem with damage tracking under GNOME's
compositing manager. Given that none of the output seems to be
problematic.
The easy thing to do is to place a window containing changing content
(such as an animation or image) behind Emacs, apply the following
change:
diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
index 5e6378db30d..8459dd33297 100644
--- a/src/xterm.c
+++ b/src/xterm.c
@@ -5222,37 +5222,37 @@ x_update_opaque_region (struct frame *f, XEvent *configure)
if (!FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->alpha_bits)
return;
- if (f->alpha_background < 1.0)
+ /* if (f->alpha_background < 1.0) */
XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
NULL, 0);
-#ifndef HAVE_GTK3
- else
- XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
- FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
- XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
- (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4);
-#else
- else if (FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f))
- XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f),
- FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region,
- XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace,
- (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4);
- else
- {
- /* This causes child frames to not update correctly for an
- unknown reason. (bug#55779) */
- if (!FRAME_PARENT_FRAME (f))
- {
- object_class = G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f));
- class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (object_class);
-
- if (class->style_updated)
- class->style_updated (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f));
- }
- }
-#endif
+/* #ifndef HAVE_GTK3 */
+/* else */
+/* XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f), */
+/* FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region, */
+/* XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace, */
+/* (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4); */
+/* #else */
+/* else if (FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f)) */
+/* XChangeProperty (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (f), FRAME_X_WINDOW (f), */
+/* FRAME_DISPLAY_INFO (f)->Xatom_net_wm_opaque_region, */
+/* XA_CARDINAL, 32, PropModeReplace, */
+/* (unsigned char *) &opaque_region, 4); */
+/* else */
+/* { */
+/* /\* This causes child frames to not update correctly for an */
+/* unknown reason. (bug#55779) *\/ */
+/* if (!FRAME_PARENT_FRAME (f)) */
+/* { */
+/* object_class = G_OBJECT_GET_CLASS (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)); */
+/* class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (object_class); */
+
+/* if (class->style_updated) */
+/* class->style_updated (FRAME_GTK_OUTER_WIDGET (f)); */
+/* } */
+/* } */
+/* #endif */
}
and see whether or not the problem can still be reproduced that way.
> Not sure what you mean. 'emacs -nw'? Or run a separate X server and
> Emacs inside it, launched from a tty?
To run Emacs inside the tty, and make it connect to your X server
running GNOME. Assuming that is display #0,
emacs -Q -display :0
Thanks.
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Once every 10 tries or so. >>> Isn't that the 100-ms delay we wait for the initial frame to finish >>> displaying, since that requires that we receive some messages from X? >> Probably not: in this scenario I usually wait for the frame to finish >> resizing, rendering, etc, and for*scratch* to be displayed properly, >> and then I press 'a'. > And without double-buffering you see no such delays? Yep: as soon as I add --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil '((inhibit-double-buffering . t)))" to the command line invocation, the effect disappears. > not even the > short ones of 100ms? It might be more like 200-300ms, by the way.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 23/02/2023 19:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Here's one repro: >> >> emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval >> "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () >> (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\")))" >> >> Where "test.c" is the name of a file in the current dir. Different files >> can work, but for some the repro doesn't happen, like those, apparently, >> which start with a paren (which makes show-paren-mode trigger its own >> redisplay). >> >> So, to repro: >> >> - Run the command above >> - Press "a" >> - Look for the delay between the title bar and the window updates >> >> With the above 'emacs -Q' it's not as prominent as with my config, but >> it can reach what looks like 100-200ms. Once every 10 tries or so. > Isn't that the 100-ms delay we wait for the initial frame to finish > displaying, since that requires that we receive some messages from X? Probably not: in this scenario I usually wait for the frame to finish resizing, rendering, etc, and for *scratch* to be displayed properly, and then I press 'a'. But I might have misunderstood your question. > So I'm not sure this is the same problem. Unless, that is, in the > "problematic" cases we somehow miss the message which we are waiting > for? It might be related if there are similar timeouts for subsequent redisplay operations.
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But the less apparent > scenario is when the delay between the title bar update and the buffer > display is on the order of 100-200ms. And I've probably been seeing this > one for a while. Just chalked it up to disk latencies, or GC, or whatever. > > >> if I manage to bisect my config to find something relevant, I will > >> report back, of course. > >> > > > > That was the next thing I was about to suggest: try to bisect your > > config to produce a MRE. > > Here's one repro: > > emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval > "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () > (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\")))" > > Where "test.c" is the name of a file in the current dir. Different files > can work, but for some the repro doesn't happen, like those, apparently, > which start with a paren (which makes show-paren-mode trigger its own > redisplay). > > So, to repro: > > - Run the command above > - Press "a" > - Look for the delay between the title bar and the window updates > > With the above 'emacs -Q' it's not as prominent as with my config, but > it can reach what looks like 100-200ms. Once every 10 tries or so. Isn't that the 100-ms delay we wait for the initial frame to finish displaying, since that requires that we receive some messages from X? So I'm not sure this is the same problem. Unless, that is, in the "problematic" cases we somehow miss the message which we are waiting for?
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So it looks like an old bug... but given that you did not see > it until recently, it could very well be an underlying change in a library. Looking at it now, it might have been the story of the boiling frog. The most prominent case of this problem is when the display is not updated for a while, for 1-2 seconds or more. But the less apparent scenario is when the delay between the title bar update and the buffer display is on the order of 100-200ms. And I've probably been seeing this one for a while. Just chalked it up to disk latencies, or GC, or whatever. >> if I manage to bisect my config to find something relevant, I will >> report back, of course. >> > > That was the next thing I was about to suggest: try to bisect your > config to produce a MRE. Here's one repro: emacs -Q --eval "(tool-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(menu-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(scroll-bar-mode -1)" --eval "(global-set-key \"a\" (lambda () (interactive) (find-file \"test.c\")))" Where "test.c" is the name of a file in the current dir. Different files can work, but for some the repro doesn't happen, like those, apparently, which start with a paren (which makes show-paren-mode trigger its own redisplay). So, to repro: - Run the command above - Press "a" - Look for the delay between the title bar and the window updates With the above 'emacs -Q' it's not as prominent as with my config, but it can reach what looks like 100-200ms. Once every 10 tries or so. This particular scenario, however, I haven't been able to repro with Emacs 25 or 26 or 27. It does reproduce with Emacs 28 and 29. The more complex one (starting with 'C-x b' and using ido-use-virtual-buffers) still reproduces with Emacs 26, though.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23/02/2023 15:13, Po Lu wrote: > Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Most of all I'm worried that this is some kind of bug in GNOME, which >> I don't have a lot of alternatives to. > > Likely not, but let's make sure. With the printf instrumentation > present, what happens if you pipe the instrumentation to a file, Then it reproduces. But since I'm not seeing the output live, I can't answer the question "what is printed when the problem happens". I'm attaching four logs anyway: alternating between when the problem reproduced, and when it did not. Otherwise the scenario was almost or exactly the same, up to the characters typed. out1.txt and out3.txt - reproduced. out2.txt and out4.txt - did not. > or run > Emacs from the Linux text console, as opposed to inside a window > redirected by GNOME's compositing manager? Not sure what you mean. 'emacs -nw'? Or run a separate X server and Emacs inside it, launched from a tty? I'd have to look up how to do that. 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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2023 13:59:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 23 08:59:00 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pVC7g-0005ox-1q for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2023 08:59:00 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:41460) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pVC7e-0005on-AB for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2023 08:58:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677160737; bh=qeYR5CvhEMNWTLPd6mKooOfca6thORyWIPSNIRhOIUc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=w0XdDj7LKydDmFd+KqoCJwhnQcI8U8dCoH9BkioTdoETa4TLCYa5Y4Kps/s+8/XIB Bl0s5veqDJoHbbyzJCAvFOTkJC2JUpyKI2m28yzJQ7pm0jntJ0FeyPXxg6s5i4WTbr nZ7QRqrj+t7yW6VkrFW9LV/fuNKdwFLVk3PvV0rqcz8Jqc5mq67DDQWaPF7asINhMl DkPFofTHwaZqLJOZkRc+z60fxIkWmhWwjnIQ/a9vTYPxgdkd1PKCC0kApQ853h2GR1 WYKlcAdnE5zRAL1UGt4mSFRSj1Lj5faGFPxM+AtVP+TvEXYTk/7ET2s/eaG9O4nazW 1znY+iTwh8Ujg== Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:58:56 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <96b742a05dea855f9636@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> <25c48260-2edc-f062-8fef-52ff2fdd22e3@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Can you perhaps try to go further back in time (Emacs 25, 26 and 27)? > > 27 and 26 -- reproduced. > Thanks! So it looks like an old bug... but given that you did not see it until recently, it could very well be an underlying change in a library. > > if I manage to bisect my config to find something relevant, I will > report back, of course. > That was the next thing I was about to suggest: try to bisect your config to produce a MRE.
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27 and 26 -- reproduced. I wasn't able to properly test with 25 because the copy of my current config errors out with "Symbol's function definition is void: register-definition-prefixes" (complaint about generated autoloads files in installed ELPA packages). For the previous versions, at least, I was able to resolve the errors by recompiling or removing all *.elc files. So far I haven't managed to reproduce using 'emacs -Q', with any of the versions. I think it's the issue of timing, but if I manage to bisect my config to find something relevant, I will report back, of course. And I haven't changed the config much during the last year, for a particular change to stand out.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b6fa1249ec153ea52a459c6a415cc978; Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:13:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <51980b63-8387-3a25-8b08-ec26e656cebd@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2023 14:00:25 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> <83ilfsrj4z.fsf@HIDDEN> <871qmgoh08.fsf@HIDDEN> <51980b63-8387-3a25-8b08-ec26e656cebd@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 21:13:22 +0800 Message-ID: <87r0ug5xu5.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 401 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, gregory@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > Most of all I'm worried that this is some kind of bug in GNOME, which > I don't have a lot of alternatives to. Likely not, but let's make sure. With the printf instrumentation present, what happens if you pipe the instrumentation to a file, or run Emacs from the Linux text console, as opposed to inside a window redirected by GNOME's compositing manager?
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Or some change in >> XDBE? > That shouldn't happen: we make the relevant X requests directly, and the > DBE implementation in the X.Org server dates back to the sample server > implementation, which has not changed since the late 90s. Most of all I'm worried that this is some kind of bug in GNOME, which I don't have a lot of alternatives to. >> Anyway, if this was not caused by a change in Emacs, we should >> continue the current course of actions, which is to figure out why the >> display on the glass is not updated. > Yes, please. Here's another stab: > > diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c > index 5feaa4aef0f..cf093aa6381 100644 > --- a/src/xterm.c > +++ b/src/xterm.c > @@ -7463,6 +7463,8 @@ x_flip_and_flush (struct frame *f) > && !FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f)) > return; > > + return; > + > block_input (); > #ifdef HAVE_XDBE > if (FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f)) > @@ -7518,9 +7520,7 @@ XTframe_up_to_date (struct frame *f) > FRAME_MOUSE_UPDATE (f); > > #ifdef HAVE_XDBE > - if (!buffer_flipping_blocked_p () > - && FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f)) > - show_back_buffer (f); > + show_back_buffer (f); > > /* The frame is now complete, as its contents have been drawn. */ > FRAME_X_COMPLETE_P (f) = true; > > Please tell whether or not this makes the problem go away. Thanks. It does not: the problem is still there.
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From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay
In-Reply-To: <83ilfsrj4z.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 23 Feb
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> Something related to GTK or Glib threads, perhaps? Or some change in
> XDBE?
That shouldn't happen: we make the relevant X requests directly, and the
DBE implementation in the X.Org server dates back to the sample server
implementation, which has not changed since the late 90s.
> Anyway, if this was not caused by a change in Emacs, we should
> continue the current course of actions, which is to figure out why the
> display on the glass is not updated.
Yes, please. Here's another stab:
diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
index 5feaa4aef0f..cf093aa6381 100644
--- a/src/xterm.c
+++ b/src/xterm.c
@@ -7463,6 +7463,8 @@ x_flip_and_flush (struct frame *f)
&& !FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f))
return;
+ return;
+
block_input ();
#ifdef HAVE_XDBE
if (FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
@@ -7518,9 +7520,7 @@ XTframe_up_to_date (struct frame *f)
FRAME_MOUSE_UPDATE (f);
#ifdef HAVE_XDBE
- if (!buffer_flipping_blocked_p ()
- && FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
- show_back_buffer (f);
+ show_back_buffer (f);
/* The frame is now complete, as its contents have been drawn. */
FRAME_X_COMPLETE_P (f) = true;
Please tell whether or not this makes the problem go away.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2023 01:03:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 22 20:03:33 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pV01F-0004pi-Kh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 20:03:33 -0500 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:40694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1pV01B-0004pV-J2 for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 20:03:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1677114208; bh=/spt1MtAsOP5R5ZQHX4EqRV3pMDup4XC03Rlmsd4X0M=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=IitnfJv9KXUEjD1qJ7J+p3S0zLoVcgvZeHD6EEpmzvvMvWB7HoqatU9iMUfbZh34l JSc1O5tFTOGkNglwuE604upz5dc4yiW0d17pytZv1LbPCQkVfsQQgPAKUXm+FBdDMk AiMnZWvD4G9AZEdmy4PPI9oAiDm/ySliG8955wHLq5r4DpL2xG8Ou3wIyAXke7D/vl LTG5wTn+OPHT9xTGodSmWFFApKKb0FvpB1eVpFIx5m0bLbSspH2EpXH0wRJU/WSVNk Jm8sloPHZijI+22Fai9X1Rsedw3JvGxDRo3cYOKS/WJvGvW8i25HmUUG3WdrGd8Tqe yfVBuZl/JzlDw== Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 01:03:27 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <96b742a05da174ece02e@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <e737b605e971af0f0303@HIDDEN> <8afe34f2-eeea-3be8-82ef-576a115beb6d@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > I have now reproduced this going as far back as Emacs 28.2. > Can you perhaps try to go further back in time (Emacs 25, 26 and 27)? > > I guess it could have been due to a system upgrade, > That's another possibility indeed, a subtle change in an underlying library.
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Excellent question. I have now reproduced this going as far back as Emacs 28.2. So I'm not sure where to look now -- I guess it could have been due to a system upgrade, but I don't see anything specific in the apt upgrades history. Upgrades did occur, though. Sorry to have implied it was a regression against 28, anyway.
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On 23/02/2023 00:36, Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army
knife of text editors wrote:
> That won't work, unfortunately -- this needs to check whether or not a function is being called at all, and not just the value of some flags at the time we update the frame title.
>
> This is a bit of a stab in the dark, but: Dimitry, what if you make x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on return immediately, without performing a buffer flip?
This way, right?
Still repros. :(
diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
index e981a36fa9c..aa321e7e3eb 100644
--- a/src/xterm.c
+++ b/src/xterm.c
@@ -17501,6 +17501,8 @@ x_net_wm_state (struct frame *f, Window window)
x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on (struct frame *f)
{
#ifdef HAVE_XDBE
+ return;
+
if (FRAME_GARBAGED_P (f)
|| buffer_flipping_blocked_p ()
/* If the frame is not already up to date, do not flush buffers
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7a410aa5c1ae4cf75aecb48749355530; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 06:36:54 +0800 From: Po Lu <Luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <83ttzdr5ls.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> <83edqjtbss.fsf@HIDDEN> <4e5e2a46-9b07-206a-6774-9f98f34cbd14@HIDDEN> <83y1orrolh.fsf@HIDDEN> <a52dc218-a622-5bac-4728-3b10f3536a40@HIDDEN> <83sfeyswdw.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cwactgv.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt55sxli.fsf@HIDDEN> <d90b9687-43da-6b4c-0f14-39e9035de54f@HIDDEN> <83ttzdr5ls.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <2CE39EAE-A59E-4535-BB97-7D548A44FC15@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1113 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) That won't work, unfortunately -- this needs to check whether or not a func= tion is being called at all, and not just the value of some flags at the ti= me we update the frame title=2E This is a bit of a stab in the dark, but: Dimitry, what if you make x_flus= h_dirty_back_buffer_on return immediately, without performing a buffer flip= ? On February 23, 2023 1:07:43 AM GMT+08:00, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu=2Eorg> = wrote: >> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:24:43 +0200 >> Cc: 61667@debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg >> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex=2Eru> >>=20 >> > Careful with printfs, since we know this problem goes away when there >> > are too many of them=2E Use fputs whenever you can, since fprintf ca= n >> > be much more expensive=2E >>=20 >> Indeed, I haven't managed to reproduce the problem even once when the= =20 >> printing patch is applied=2E >>=20 >> I've also tried this one, with the same lack of success: > >Maybe instead of printing to stderr, we could display something in the >frame title, which is being updated in this scenario? AFAIU, the >suggested printfs just show a couple of boolean flags?
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One theory is > that an event somehow arrives during redisplay and causes > `x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on' to be called, and the Cairo code is > missing a call to `x_mark_frame_dirty' somewhere, which causes the next > buffer flip to not take effect. It reproduces without Cairo, yes. With more or less the same frequency.
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On 22/02/2023 14:17, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> #ifdef HAVE_XDBE
>> + fprintf (stderr, "XTframe_up_to_date: %d, %d\n",
>> + buffer_flipping_blocked_p (),
>> + FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f));
>> +
>> if (!buffer_flipping_blocked_p ()
>> && FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
>> show_back_buffer (f);
>> @@ -17736,6 +17740,8 @@ x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on (struct frame *f)
>> || !FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
>> return;
>>
>> + fprintf (stderr, "x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on: called\n");
> Careful with printfs, since we know this problem goes away when there
> are too many of them. Use fputs whenever you can, since fprintf can
> be much more expensive.
Indeed, I haven't managed to reproduce the problem even once when the
printing patch is applied.
I've also tried this one, with the same lack of success:
diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
index e981a36fa9c..7829ad6b0e8 100644
--- a/src/xterm.c
+++ b/src/xterm.c
@@ -7394,6 +7394,18 @@ XTframe_up_to_date (struct frame *f)
FRAME_MOUSE_UPDATE (f);
#ifdef HAVE_XDBE
+ fputs ("XTframe_up_to_date: ", stderr);
+ if (buffer_flipping_blocked_p ())
+ fputs ("1", stderr);
+ else
+ fputs ("0", stderr);
+ fputs (", ", stderr);
+ if (FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
+ fputs ("1", stderr);
+ else
+ fputs ("0", stderr);
+ fputs ("\n", stderr);
+
if (!buffer_flipping_blocked_p ()
&& FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
show_back_buffer (f);
@@ -17509,6 +17521,8 @@ x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on (struct frame *f)
|| !FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
return;
+ fputs ("x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on: called\n", stderr);
+
show_back_buffer (f);
#endif
}
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Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:25:28 +0200
>> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>>
>> > I'm not surer I follow: why should a frame resize in this case? You
>> > just visit a file in an existing window of an existing frame, right?
>> > Or is the situation more complicated? If the latter, please tell the
>> > details, they could be relevant.
>>
>> Given how slow the unoptimized build is, I can usually start (and
>> finish) typing the command before Emacs has fully finished processing
>> the init script, including the default face customizations (which result
>> in frame resizing).
>>
>> >> So if I wait for it, and then use 'C-x b' (with Ido's support for
>> >> recentf), then I also can trigger the problem.
>> >
>> > Not following again: wait for what? And what happens when you use
>> > "C-x b"?
>>
>> 'C-x b' followed by the file name from history, followed by RET ->
>> visiting the previously visited file. From recentf.
>>
>> This behavior is driven by the option ido-virtual-buffers. Unlikely
>> affects something.
>>
>> But it allows me to shorten the scenario of visiting a file for the
>> first time after launching Emacs, so that I can trigger the bug faster
>> (over several tries).
>
> So you:
>
> . start Emacs
> . wait for the initial frame to be redrawn after the init files are
> processed
> . visit a file by typing "C-x b" and selecting a file from a list
>
> And then you see an empty window with the frame's title showing the
> file you selected. Is that correct? If so, what do you see on the
> mode line as the buffer name?
>
>> Overall, though, the unoptimized build makes it harder to reproduce:
>> I've only managed that 3 times, so far.
>
> Which likely means this is some kind of timing issue. Which perhaps
> also explains why trace-redisplay stops it from happening: it slows
> down redisplay because it needs to output the traces. So we are
> looking at some X or GTK event that comes in and somehow interrupts or
> prevents redisplay from doing its job, after it evidently started
> (because the frame title is updated at the beginning of a redisplay
> cycle)? Or maybe it's something that prevents us from swapping the
> double-buffering buffers so that the redrawn stuff is actually shown
> on the glass?
>
>> But the echo area is not getting redrawn either: the selection of
>> buffers to switch to is still visible as it was when I pressed RET. Just
>> the title bar changes. The echo area is updated together with the main
>> window showing the buffer.
>
> The echo area is shown in a window, so that seems to be part of not
> updating the windows on display.
Thanks.
Would you please start by instrumenting xterm.c as follows?
diff --git a/src/xterm.c b/src/xterm.c
index 5feaa4aef0f..999ae5d37fb 100644
--- a/src/xterm.c
+++ b/src/xterm.c
@@ -7518,6 +7518,10 @@ XTframe_up_to_date (struct frame *f)
FRAME_MOUSE_UPDATE (f);
#ifdef HAVE_XDBE
+ fprintf (stderr, "XTframe_up_to_date: %d, %d\n",
+ buffer_flipping_blocked_p (),
+ FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f));
+
if (!buffer_flipping_blocked_p ()
&& FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
show_back_buffer (f);
@@ -17736,6 +17740,8 @@ x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on (struct frame *f)
|| !FRAME_X_NEED_BUFFER_FLIP (f))
return;
+ fprintf (stderr, "x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on: called\n");
+
show_back_buffer (f);
#endif
}
Then, please tell if anything at all is printed when the buffer flipping
fails to happen.
In addition, does this happen on a build without Cairo? One theory is
that an event somehow arrives during redisplay and causes
`x_flush_dirty_back_buffer_on' to be called, and the Cairo code is
missing a call to `x_mark_frame_dirty' somewhere, which causes the next
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You >>> just visit a file in an existing window of an existing frame, right? >>> Or is the situation more complicated? If the latter, please tell the >>> details, they could be relevant. >> >> Given how slow the unoptimized build is, I can usually start (and >> finish) typing the command before Emacs has fully finished processing >> the init script, including the default face customizations (which result >> in frame resizing). >> >>>> So if I wait for it, and then use 'C-x b' (with Ido's support for >>>> recentf), then I also can trigger the problem. >>> >>> Not following again: wait for what? And what happens when you use >>> "C-x b"? >> >> 'C-x b' followed by the file name from history, followed by RET -> >> visiting the previously visited file. From recentf. >> >> This behavior is driven by the option ido-virtual-buffers. Unlikely >> affects something. >> >> But it allows me to shorten the scenario of visiting a file for the >> first time after launching Emacs, so that I can trigger the bug faster >> (over several tries). > > So you: > > . start Emacs > . wait for the initial frame to be redrawn after the init files are > processed > . visit a file by typing "C-x b" and selecting a file from a list > > And then you see an empty window with the frame's title showing the > file you selected. Is that correct? Not exactly empty, just not updated. I guess I was saying it's blank because the scratch is usually displayed as blank. But I wasn't able to repro this with non-empty scratch. Not in the latest experiments, at least. > If so, what do you see on the > mode line as the buffer name? Whatever it was showing before I hit RET. Its contents for *scratch*, I guess. >> Overall, though, the unoptimized build makes it harder to reproduce: >> I've only managed that 3 times, so far. > > Which likely means this is some kind of timing issue. Which perhaps > also explains why trace-redisplay stops it from happening: it slows > down redisplay because it needs to output the traces. So we are > looking at some X or GTK event that comes in and somehow interrupts or > prevents redisplay from doing its job, after it evidently started > (because the frame title is updated at the beginning of a redisplay > cycle)? Or maybe it's something that prevents us from swapping the > double-buffering buffers so that the redrawn stuff is actually shown > on the glass? I understand you are musing here. >> But the echo area is not getting redrawn either: the selection of >> buffers to switch to is still visible as it was when I pressed RET. Just >> the title bar changes. The echo area is updated together with the main >> window showing the buffer. > > The echo area is shown in a window, so that seems to be part of not > updating the windows on display. Yep. Or to be more precise, the whole frame contents are not updated. Just the title. At first.
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> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:25:28 +0200
> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>
> > I'm not surer I follow: why should a frame resize in this case? You
> > just visit a file in an existing window of an existing frame, right?
> > Or is the situation more complicated? If the latter, please tell the
> > details, they could be relevant.
>
> Given how slow the unoptimized build is, I can usually start (and
> finish) typing the command before Emacs has fully finished processing
> the init script, including the default face customizations (which result
> in frame resizing).
>
> >> So if I wait for it, and then use 'C-x b' (with Ido's support for
> >> recentf), then I also can trigger the problem.
> >
> > Not following again: wait for what? And what happens when you use
> > "C-x b"?
>
> 'C-x b' followed by the file name from history, followed by RET ->
> visiting the previously visited file. From recentf.
>
> This behavior is driven by the option ido-virtual-buffers. Unlikely
> affects something.
>
> But it allows me to shorten the scenario of visiting a file for the
> first time after launching Emacs, so that I can trigger the bug faster
> (over several tries).
So you:
. start Emacs
. wait for the initial frame to be redrawn after the init files are
processed
. visit a file by typing "C-x b" and selecting a file from a list
And then you see an empty window with the frame's title showing the
file you selected. Is that correct? If so, what do you see on the
mode line as the buffer name?
> Overall, though, the unoptimized build makes it harder to reproduce:
> I've only managed that 3 times, so far.
Which likely means this is some kind of timing issue. Which perhaps
also explains why trace-redisplay stops it from happening: it slows
down redisplay because it needs to output the traces. So we are
looking at some X or GTK event that comes in and somehow interrupts or
prevents redisplay from doing its job, after it evidently started
(because the frame title is updated at the beginning of a redisplay
cycle)? Or maybe it's something that prevents us from swapping the
double-buffering buffers so that the redrawn stuff is actually shown
on the glass?
> But the echo area is not getting redrawn either: the selection of
> buffers to switch to is still visible as it was when I pressed RET. Just
> the title bar changes. The echo area is updated together with the main
> window showing the buffer.
The echo area is shown in a window, so that seems to be part of not
updating the windows on display.
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As long as I don't hurry too much to type 'C-x b >> file-name RET' too early, before the frame has managed to resize and >> redisplay fully the first time. > > I'm not surer I follow: why should a frame resize in this case? You > just visit a file in an existing window of an existing frame, right? > Or is the situation more complicated? If the latter, please tell the > details, they could be relevant. Given how slow the unoptimized build is, I can usually start (and finish) typing the command before Emacs has fully finished processing the init script, including the default face customizations (which result in frame resizing). >> So if I wait for it, and then use 'C-x b' (with Ido's support for >> recentf), then I also can trigger the problem. > > Not following again: wait for what? And what happens when you use > "C-x b"? 'C-x b' followed by the file name from history, followed by RET -> visiting the previously visited file. From recentf. This behavior is driven by the option ido-virtual-buffers. Unlikely affects something. But it allows me to shorten the scenario of visiting a file for the first time after launching Emacs, so that I can trigger the bug faster (over several tries). Overall, though, the unoptimized build makes it harder to reproduce: I've only managed that 3 times, so far. Reproducing it by killing a buffer and then re-visiting in the same session seems harder still, but I've just managed to do it once. >> Oh, here's another description of the bug: the frame's title bar changes >> (to display the visited file name), but the buffer is blank for a little >> while. > > Which seems to mean that redisplay was called (and produced the > updated frame title), but for some reason decided that none of the > windows need redrawing. Apparently so. > Or (given your report about double-buffering) > didn't reflect the new content on display? Can't tell which one it is. But the echo area is not getting redrawn either: the selection of buffers to switch to is still visible as it was when I pressed RET. Just the title bar changes. The echo area is updated together with the main window showing the buffer.
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>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:07:32 +0100, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> s=
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>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:16:46 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
>>>=20
>>> CCLD temacs
>>> /usr/bin/ld: xterm.o: in function `x_update_end':
>>> /home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:7361: undefined reference to=20
>>> `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
Eli> I tried to fix this now.
Robert> You missed one, but I just pushed a fix to emacs-29
Although I=CA=BCm not 100% sure my fix is correct. Po Lu?
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>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:16:46 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
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>> CCLD temacs
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>> /home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:7361: undefined reference to
>> `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
Eli> I tried to fix this now.
You missed one, but I just pushed a fix to emacs-29
Robert
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2023 16:18:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 21 11:18:02 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pUVL8-0006mG-DL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:18:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pUVL7-0006lm-28 for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:18:01 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pUVL0-0002Cw-D5; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:17:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Tr5R3HlnMI+MP7VXY53wa+q2u4AvGLoa6Fi65/xIKxg=; b=FlRJBVU+HrC6 NytFDSDV1ImT6lEOi3S68p780pJ+AOPHi+JLx8udTEKUadWz01FnSAz868nlgP5kco+C75EkzESFL zOrUUXyU9BkOBQuXQyUYwa2VsBMdKN6T8pLIUg0iMP4Dh8vpxIjbm149bWUXz1FzZlU9kHEp9qP59 e5QYh7kF/X2q4w11UY6H+VXmcmO6/CWQBbSDsHSVxL8UzaRatdjtz3FUFxb7JVfzG816CbIYvFokp ajBKY8WygT1zf6SFahFGcZa8ogqf1GIa+Rs3noKA3GjLeI703XOxHy0X2iTlvV2a1XQeRNqKMx/4s B8crv9YuGjAqzsqBIZ8X9g==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pUVKz-0004cC-QJ; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:17:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:18:05 +0200 Message-Id: <83v8jvro02.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <eea25623-c96c-5c5c-f8fd-3e9dc5dd51bf@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:43:46 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <83o7pntdfv.fsf@HIDDEN> <eea25623-c96c-5c5c-f8fd-3e9dc5dd51bf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:43:46 +0200 > Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > > > Does it help to disable double buffering? > > Looks like it does: > > emacs --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil > '((inhibit-double-buffering . t)))" > > That "fixes" the scenario. :-( Po Lu, can you look into this, assuming double-buffering indeed has something to do with this? Some recent changes in this area in the last month or so, perhaps?
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Full text available.Received: (at 61667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2023 16:16:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 21 11:16:45 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pUVJt-0006k2-0b for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:16:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pUVJq-0006jp-Nw for 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:16:43 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pUVJl-0001se-Dv; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:16:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=23Gjf6wmz7g1GckhQM5K3eaiJUJCc+r+afnQjV1yvXc=; b=Qcrb3ogc0D77y0w6I5Dq e5rLWvO00MRihuPBH/orZjPOpwgL0jurSieUKa+s18UQuOHtPky0aqHjlf+x3uX7EFmjoHGOdz+HF /HKV/NULph2cQ6fZzSX9s4nUKx6kDxZ+4YDPMJBT+y0VPsjXij4bLqSk6ZV6CZhC+GBtK9W0AfwMK qieTnKpMgyTq8kSPr1NsqETPxHiBSlXtvDwcIagwDhBWC5qmW2MUPK7ZQOMwBN/KZ24fHPtLNUmmE SyhD9Q0Z4iuCqIOfaXoIYd3GDAcuf9UPIcgIwJwv6OseD1ao5svm5US1MjLvN2IqY5DvrGzgkyMM2 3H2fixN5U09/5A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pUVJj-0004Nd-Q9; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:16:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:16:46 +0200 Message-Id: <83wn4bro29.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <eea25623-c96c-5c5c-f8fd-3e9dc5dd51bf@HIDDEN> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:43:46 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <83o7pntdfv.fsf@HIDDEN> <eea25623-c96c-5c5c-f8fd-3e9dc5dd51bf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:43:46 +0200 > Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> > > I also tried rebuilding Emacs with '--with-xdbe=no', to eliminate > additional factors such as Lisp evaluation and frame parameter > modification, but it fails with > > xterm.c: In function ‘x_end_cr_clip’: > xterm.c:5833:7: warning: implicit declaration of function > ‘FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] > 5833 | if (FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P (f)) > | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > xterm.c:5833:7: warning: nested extern declaration of > ‘FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P’ [-Wnested-externs] > xterm.c: In function ‘handle_one_xevent’: > xterm.c:20904:17: warning: implicit declaration of function > ‘x_drop_xrender_surfaces’; did you mean ‘font_drop_xrender_surfaces’? > [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] > 20904 | x_drop_xrender_surfaces (f); > | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | font_drop_xrender_surfaces > xterm.c:20904:17: warning: nested extern declaration of > ‘x_drop_xrender_surfaces’ [-Wnested-externs] > > ... > ... > > CCLD temacs > /usr/bin/ld: xterm.o: in function `x_update_end': > /home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:7361: undefined reference to > `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P' I tried to fix this now.
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So, unless this is some weird > compiler bug, I don't understand how trace-redisplay could have > affected this. Although the fact that with a tool bar displayed you > cannot reproduce the problem is already weird for the same reason. > > If you build with no optimizations (CFLAGS=-O0 ./configure...), but > without --enable-checking=glyphs, does the problem still happen? Still reproduces, yes. As long as I don't hurry too much to type 'C-x b file-name RET' too early, before the frame has managed to resize and redisplay fully the first time. So if I wait for it, and then use 'C-x b' (with Ido's support for recentf), then I also can trigger the problem. Oh, here's another description of the bug: the frame's title bar changes (to display the visited file name), but the buffer is blank for a little while. >> That's not the effect of 'checking', though -- I can still repro if I >> don't turn on redisplay tracing (which prints stuff in the background >> window; maybe it's relevant, maybe it's not). > By "background window" you mean a shell window from which you started > Emacs? Or do you mean something else? Yes, that one.
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On 21/02/2023 14:23, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 04:53:58 +0200
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN>
>>
>> This has been happening from time to time recently:
>
> Any idea how recent is "recently"?
A month-ish? I also hadn't realized right away that it was the problem
with redisplay. Some of the delays might have been a little shorter
previously. They are sometimes shorter than 1-2 seconds now as well.
>> I visit a file (either through recents or through
>> project-find-file), and the buffer stays blank for a while, giving
>> an appearance that it's "loading".
>
> You visit a file that is not already visited in some buffer in the
> current Emacs session?
Usually, yes. I don't remember an exception to this.
> Does it happen only immediately after visiting a file, i.e. upon what
> should have been the initial display of the file you visited?
Yes.
> Or does
> it happen in other situations as well? If this happens only upon
> visiting an unvisited file, does it happen every time you visit such a
> file?
Only sometimes. Randomly.
> Do you have some features enabled that affect the initial display of a
> visited file? Like save-place or something else that invokes a hook
> upon visiting? Or some display-related feature that could be
> relevant? If you do, what are those features/hooks?
I did have save-place set to t, but I can reproduce it without that.
Other hooks upon visiting? diff-hl-mode adds to find-file-hook to check
VCS status. But the file I'm currently reproducing it with is in non-VCS
controlled directory, so no visualization is added.
>> This happens with my personal configuration, and rather randomly. How
>> should I go about debugging it?
>
> Does it help to disable double buffering?
Looks like it does:
emacs --eval "(modify-frame-parameters nil
'((inhibit-double-buffering . t)))"
That "fixes" the scenario. :-(
I also tried rebuilding Emacs with '--with-xdbe=no', to eliminate
additional factors such as Lisp evaluation and frame parameter
modification, but it fails with
xterm.c: In function ‘x_end_cr_clip’:
xterm.c:5833:7: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
5833 | if (FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P (f))
| ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
xterm.c:5833:7: warning: nested extern declaration of
‘FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P’ [-Wnested-externs]
xterm.c: In function ‘handle_one_xevent’:
xterm.c:20904:17: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘x_drop_xrender_surfaces’; did you mean ‘font_drop_xrender_surfaces’?
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
20904 | x_drop_xrender_surfaces (f);
| ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| font_drop_xrender_surfaces
xterm.c:20904:17: warning: nested extern declaration of
‘x_drop_xrender_surfaces’ [-Wnested-externs]
...
...
CCLD temacs
/usr/bin/ld: xterm.o: in function `x_update_end':
/home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:7361: undefined reference to
`FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
/usr/bin/ld: xterm.o: in function `x_end_cr_clip':
/home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:5833: undefined reference to
`FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:5833: undefined reference
to `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:5833: undefined reference
to `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
/usr/bin/ld: /home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:5833: undefined reference
to `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P'
/usr/bin/ld: xterm.o:/home/dgutov/vc/emacs/src/xterm.c:5833: more
undefined references to `FRAME_X_DOUBLE_BUFFERED_P' follow
even after 'make extraclean'.
Revision e83c78b8c7784254.
> Do you see anything interesting in *Messages* after such an incident?
Nope.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f0ba36070a2fff69d1c86657d582da91; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:08:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:43:29 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> <4306cb76-a44c-3101-e43c-fd64afae4a51@HIDDEN> <871qmje2ws.fsf@HIDDEN> <aca4ef69-76b4-415d-0cba-4f4c56e0d30d@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:08:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87wn4bcm3h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1063 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > On 21/02/2023 12:19, Po Lu wrote: >> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>> Hovering the mouse over the mode-line does trigger the necessary >>> redisplay. Alt-Tabbing to another window and then back also does >>> that. Is that relevant? >>> >>> Simply moving the mouse (not over the mode-line) doesn't help. >>> >>> The refresh can also happen on its own, in 1-2 seconds. >> I think this isn't a problem with the GLib input code then. >> Alt-tabbing makes the X event reading code explicitly ask for a >> redisplay. If you build --with-checking=yes,glyphs and call >> `trace-redisplay', what happens when the redisplay does not happen? > > Okay, I've rebuilt with --enable-checking=glyphs. > > With --eval '(trace-redisplay t)', redisplay always happens. ;-( > > That's not the effect of 'checking', though -- I can still repro if I > don't turn on redisplay tracing (which prints stuff in the background > window; maybe it's relevant, maybe it's not). No idea why that is, sorry. Perhaps Eli knows better.
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Alt-Tabbing to another window and then back also does >> that. Is that relevant? >> >> Simply moving the mouse (not over the mode-line) doesn't help. >> >> The refresh can also happen on its own, in 1-2 seconds. > > I think this isn't a problem with the GLib input code then. > > Alt-tabbing makes the X event reading code explicitly ask for a > redisplay. If you build --with-checking=yes,glyphs and call > `trace-redisplay', what happens when the redisplay does not happen? Okay, I've rebuilt with --enable-checking=glyphs. With --eval '(trace-redisplay t)', redisplay always happens. ;-( That's not the effect of 'checking', though -- I can still repro if I don't turn on redisplay tracing (which prints stuff in the background window; maybe it's relevant, maybe it's not).
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Alt-Tabbing to another window and then back also does > that. Is that relevant? > > Simply moving the mouse (not over the mode-line) doesn't help. > > The refresh can also happen on its own, in 1-2 seconds. I think this isn't a problem with the GLib input code then. Alt-tabbing makes the X event reading code explicitly ask for a redisplay. If you build --with-checking=yes,glyphs and call `trace-redisplay', what happens when the redisplay does not happen? Thanks.
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How >> should I go about debugging it? >> >> In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 101, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version >> 3.24.34, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-02-18 built on potemkin >> Repository revision: 6c0d8210175e72dcd7cef2ad77b8f8b680b240bc >> Repository branch: emacs-29 >> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 >> System Description: Ubuntu 22.10 >> >> Configured features: >> CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON >> LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG >> SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER X11 >> XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB > > Are you sure this is because redisplay is not happening, and not because > Emacs is stuck in xg_select? > > If you hover over a tool bar button when this happens, or move the > mouse, does the button become highlighted or redisplay happen? The situation seems a lot more difficult to reproduce with tool-bar-mode on (I usually keep it off) -- haven't managed so far. But without the tool-bar, I reproduced it a bunch of times over the last couple of minutes. Hovering the mouse over the mode-line does trigger the necessary redisplay. Alt-Tabbing to another window and then back also does that. Is that relevant? Simply moving the mouse (not over the mode-line) doesn't help. The refresh can also happen on its own, in 1-2 seconds.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f26e956a8225a32caa707a2e61b847fe; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 07:32:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61667: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay In-Reply-To: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 21 Feb 2023 04:53:58 +0200") References: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:32:16 +0800 Message-ID: <87a617eanz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1290 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61667 Cc: 61667 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> writes: > This has been happening from time to time recently: I visit a file > (either through recents or through project-find-file), and the buffer > stays blank for a while, giving an appearance that it's "loading". > > But if I issue a new command (e.g. move the cursor), it redisplays > instantly. > > This happens with my personal configuration, and rather randomly. How > should I go about debugging it? > > In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 101, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version > 3.24.34, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-02-18 built on potemkin > Repository revision: 6c0d8210175e72dcd7cef2ad77b8f8b680b240bc > Repository branch: emacs-29 > Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 > System Description: Ubuntu 22.10 > > Configured features: > CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON > LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG > SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER X11 > XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Are you sure this is because redisplay is not happening, and not because Emacs is stuck in xg_select? If you hover over a tool bar button when this happens, or move the mouse, does the button become highlighted or redisplay happen?
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Mon, 20 Feb 2023 18:54:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <04d7cb31-684c-07c0-ee7b-503514fc1a85@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 04:53:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Content-Language: en-US To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@HIDDEN> Subject: 29.0.60; Failure to redisplay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::329; envelope-from=raaahh@HIDDEN; helo=mail-wm1-x329.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) This has been happening from time to time recently: I visit a file (either through recents or through project-find-file), and the buffer stays blank for a while, giving an appearance that it's "loading". But if I issue a new command (e.g. move the cursor), it redisplays instantly. This happens with my personal configuration, and rather randomly. How should I go about debugging it? In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 101, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.34, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-02-18 built on potemkin Repository revision: 6c0d8210175e72dcd7cef2ad77b8f8b680b240bc Repository branch: emacs-29 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: Ubuntu 22.10 Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB
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