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package transformations not honored working from a manifest

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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-guix <bug-guix <at> gnu.org>
Subject: package transformations not honored working from a manifest
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:23:51 -0500

Hi Guix,

I was trying to simplify the Jami packaging tooling using the latest
recursive '--with-source' transformation, like so (in a Makefile):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
define guix-pack-command
guix pack -C xz -f deb -f extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/guix-pack-manifest.scm -v3 \
  --with-source=libjami@$(RELEASE_VERSION)=$(RELEASE_TARBALL_FILENAME) \
  --with-patch=libjami=extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/patches/jami-disable-integration-tests.patch \
  --with-source=jami@$(RELEASE_VERSION)=$(RELEASE_TARBALL_FILENAME) \
  -S /usr/bin/jami=bin/jami \
  -S /usr/share/applications/jami.desktop=share/applications/jami.desktop \
  -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/jami.svg=share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/jami.svg \
  -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/jami.png=share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/jami.png \
  -S /usr/share/metainfo/jami.appdata.xml=share/metainfo/jami.appdata.xml \
  --postinst-file=extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/guix-pack-deb.postinst
endef
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

But noticed that --with-source and --with-patch were not effective for
the jami-with-certs customized package provided by the
guix-pack-manifest.scm manifest.

It seems to me that the rewriting options should be honored on any
packages being manipulated, whether they come from the Guix collection,
a file, a manifest or another means.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #8 received at 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:49:35 +0100

Hi,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com> skribis:

> I was trying to simplify the Jami packaging tooling using the latest
> recursive '--with-source' transformation, like so (in a Makefile):
>
> define guix-pack-command
> guix pack -C xz -f deb -f extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/guix-pack-manifest.scm -v3 \
>   --with-source=libjami@$(RELEASE_VERSION)=$(RELEASE_TARBALL_FILENAME) \
>   --with-patch=libjami=extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/patches/jami-disable-integration-tests.patch \
>   --with-source=jami@$(RELEASE_VERSION)=$(RELEASE_TARBALL_FILENAME) \
>   -S /usr/bin/jami=bin/jami \
>   -S /usr/share/applications/jami.desktop=share/applications/jami.desktop \
>   -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/jami.svg=share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/jami.svg \
>   -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/jami.png=share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/jami.png \
>   -S /usr/share/metainfo/jami.appdata.xml=share/metainfo/jami.appdata.xml \
>   --postinst-file=extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/guix-pack-deb.postinst
> endef

Interesting!  :-)

> But noticed that --with-source and --with-patch were not effective for
> the jami-with-certs customized package provided by the
> guix-pack-manifest.scm manifest.

Indeed, that’s expected.

> It seems to me that the rewriting options should be honored on any
> packages being manipulated, whether they come from the Guix collection,
> a file, a manifest or another means.

I’m not convinced; I think manifests should be interpreted literally.

Incidentally, changing that would likely break existing workflows…

Ludo’.

Message #11 received at 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 20:20:56 -0500

Hi Ludo!

Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> But noticed that --with-source and --with-patch were not effective for
>> the jami-with-certs customized package provided by the
>> guix-pack-manifest.scm manifest.
>
> Indeed, that’s expected.
>
>> It seems to me that the rewriting options should be honored on any
>> packages being manipulated, whether they come from the Guix collection,
>> a file, a manifest or another means.
>
> I’m not convinced; I think manifests should be interpreted literally.

Perhaps I do not have the full picture in my head, but if someone calls
'guix pack -m my-manifest.scm
--with-source=some-package=the-source.tar.gz', it'd seem the
--with-source option pretty useless in this case if it doesn't touch the
manifest's packages graph.  It'd rather it error out with a message
like: "package rewriting options have no effects for manifests",
although I'd rather it was possible.

Is there another alternative for the use case I'm after?  The only other
option available seems to be to extend the GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH with a
module and to use -e '(@@ (my module) jami-with-certs)'; would the
jami-with-certs graph get rewritten then?

I also got bit by #61684, which muddied the waters some more :-)

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #14 received at 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 10:23:55 +0100

Hello,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> But noticed that --with-source and --with-patch were not effective for
>>> the jami-with-certs customized package provided by the
>>> guix-pack-manifest.scm manifest.
>>
>> Indeed, that’s expected.
>>
>>> It seems to me that the rewriting options should be honored on any
>>> packages being manipulated, whether they come from the Guix collection,
>>> a file, a manifest or another means.
>>
>> I’m not convinced; I think manifests should be interpreted literally.
>
> Perhaps I do not have the full picture in my head, but if someone calls
> 'guix pack -m my-manifest.scm
> --with-source=some-package=the-source.tar.gz', it'd seem the
> --with-source option pretty useless in this case if it doesn't touch the
> manifest's packages graph.  It'd rather it error out with a message
> like: "package rewriting options have no effects for manifests",
> although I'd rather it was possible.
>
> Is there another alternative for the use case I'm after?  The only other
> option available seems to be to extend the GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH with a
> module and to use -e '(@@ (my module) jami-with-certs)'; would the
> jami-with-certs graph get rewritten then?

How about using transformations right into your manifest?  Would that
work for you?

There’s a one-to-one mapping from command-line options to
‘options->transformation’ (info "(guix) Defining Package Variants").

Ludo’.

Message #17 received at 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune <at> gmail.com>
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>, Maxim Cournoyer
 <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 14:53:54 +0100

Hi,

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 10:23, Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> How about using transformations right into your manifest?  Would that
> work for you?

Maxim reported a related issue [1]:

    bug#61684: can't compose 'with-patch' with 'with-source'

1: <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/msgid/87mt56gac6.fsf <at> gmail.com>

Cheers,
simon

Message #20 received at 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>, 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 13:36:07 -0500

Hi Simon and Ludovic,

Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 10:23, Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> How about using transformations right into your manifest?  Would that
>> work for you?
>
> Maxim reported a related issue [1]:
>
>     bug#61684: can't compose 'with-patch' with 'with-source'
>
> 1: <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/msgid/87mt56gac6.fsf <at> gmail.com>

Yes, that's the one impeding what I'd like to do in the manifest I use;
see
https://review.jami.net/c/jami-client-qt/+/23978/2/extras/packaging/gnu-linux/guix/guix-pack-manifest.scm
for some of the issues encountered in an actual use case.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #23 received at 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 61676 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:53:00 +0100

Hi,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> skribis:

> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com> skribis:

[...]

>> It seems to me that the rewriting options should be honored on any
>> packages being manipulated, whether they come from the Guix collection,
>> a file, a manifest or another means.
>
> I’m not convinced; I think manifests should be interpreted literally.
>
> Incidentally, changing that would likely break existing workflows…

Consequently, my inclination would be to close this issue as “wontfix”.

WDYT?

Ludo’.

Message #28 received at 61676-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 61676-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61676: package transformations not honored working from a
 manifest
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 12:01:53 -0500

Hi Ludovic,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org> skribis:
>
>> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com> skribis:
>
> [...]
>
>>> It seems to me that the rewriting options should be honored on any
>>> packages being manipulated, whether they come from the Guix collection,
>>> a file, a manifest or another means.
>>
>> I’m not convinced; I think manifests should be interpreted literally.
>>
>> Incidentally, changing that would likely break existing workflows…
>
> Consequently, my inclination would be to close this issue as “wontfix”.
>
> WDYT?

Sounds reasonable; we can focus our energy on trying to improve #61684 instead.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

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