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28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search

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From: "Farblos" <AKFKQU.9DF7RP <at> vodafonemail.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 12:38:45 +0100

Not sure whether bug or feature ...

Start emacs as "emacs -Q".  Then:

;; open second frame
C-x 5 b *Messages* RET

;; switch back to first frame showing scratch buffer
C-x 5 o 

;; go to beginning of scratch buffer
ESC <

;; isearch for "buffer"
C-s buffer

<switch to the second Emacs frame by window manager means, for example, M-Tab>

The last step on my Emacs would exit the incremental search on the first Emacs frame.

From this comment in isearch.el:

    ;; Pass frame events transparently so they won't exit the search.
    ;; In particular, if we have more than one display open, then a
    ;; switch-frame might be generated by someone typing at another keyboard.
    (define-key map [switch-frame] nil)
    (define-key map [delete-frame] nil)
    (define-key map [iconify-frame] nil)
    (define-key map [make-frame-visible] nil)
    (define-key map [mouse-movement] nil)
    (define-key map [language-change] nil)

I would deduce that this should not happen.

When I bind #'ignore to [switch-frame] instead of nil things work as expected (by me).

In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2023-01-18, modified by Debian built on x86-csail-01
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Message #8 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: "Farblos" <AKFKQU.9DF7RP <at> vodafonemail.de>, Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Cc: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 15:30:11 +0200

> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 12:38:45 +0100
> From:  "Farblos" via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Not sure whether bug or feature ...
> 
> Start emacs as "emacs -Q".  Then:
> 
> ;; open second frame
> C-x 5 b *Messages* RET
> 
> ;; switch back to first frame showing scratch buffer
> C-x 5 o 
> 
> ;; go to beginning of scratch buffer
> ESC <
> 
> ;; isearch for "buffer"
> C-s buffer
> 
> <switch to the second Emacs frame by window manager means, for example, M-Tab>
> 
> The last step on my Emacs would exit the incremental search on the first Emacs frame.
> 
> >From this comment in isearch.el:
> 
>     ;; Pass frame events transparently so they won't exit the search.
>     ;; In particular, if we have more than one display open, then a
>     ;; switch-frame might be generated by someone typing at another keyboard.
>     (define-key map [switch-frame] nil)
>     (define-key map [delete-frame] nil)
>     (define-key map [iconify-frame] nil)
>     (define-key map [make-frame-visible] nil)
>     (define-key map [mouse-movement] nil)
>     (define-key map [language-change] nil)
> 
> I would deduce that this should not happen.
> 
> When I bind #'ignore to [switch-frame] instead of nil things work as expected (by me).

Juri, could you please look into this?

Message #11 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Farblos <AKFKQU.9DF7RP <at> vodafonemail.de>
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 20:23:55 +0200

>> ;; open second frame
>> C-x 5 b *Messages* RET
>> 
>> ;; switch back to first frame showing scratch buffer
>> C-x 5 o 
>> 
>> ;; go to beginning of scratch buffer
>> ESC <
>> 
>> ;; isearch for "buffer"
>> C-s buffer
>> 
>> <switch to the second Emacs frame by window manager means, for example, M-Tab>
>> 
>> The last step on my Emacs would exit the incremental search on the first Emacs frame.
>> 
>> >From this comment in isearch.el:
>> 
>>     ;; Pass frame events transparently so they won't exit the search.
>>     ;; In particular, if we have more than one display open, then a
>>     ;; switch-frame might be generated by someone typing at another keyboard.
>>     (define-key map [switch-frame] nil)
>>     (define-key map [delete-frame] nil)
>>     (define-key map [iconify-frame] nil)
>>     (define-key map [make-frame-visible] nil)
>>     (define-key map [mouse-movement] nil)
>>     (define-key map [language-change] nil)
>> 
>> I would deduce that this should not happen.
>> 
>> When I bind #'ignore to [switch-frame] instead of nil things work as expected (by me).
>
> Juri, could you please look into this?

This looks related to bug#41338 that is still unfixed.
But maybe 'ignore is really the right way to fix, this needs testing.

Message #14 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Farblos <akfkqu.9df7rp <at> vodafonemail.de>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 22:02:22 +0100

> This looks related to bug#41338 that is still unfixed.
> But maybe 'ignore is really the right way to fix, this needs testing.

Agreed, but bug#41338 seems to imply that the comment from isearch.el 
quoted above is wrong or misleading and that a frame switch should 
actually exit an incremental search.  In which case this bug would be a 
wontfix.

I'm fine with that point of view as long as I'm allowed to let frame 
switches keep isearch alive in some way or other.  I understand that the 
buffer switch (resulting from the frame switch) during an isearch is 
evil, but I frequently just alt-tab to a different frame, peek something 
there, alt-tab back, and continue the isearch.

Message #17 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Farblos <akfkqu.9df7rp <at> vodafonemail.de>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 22:11:23 +0100

>> This looks related to bug#41338 that is still unfixed.
>> But maybe 'ignore is really the right way to fix, this needs testing.
> 
> Agreed, but bug#41338 seems to imply that the comment from isearch.el 
> quoted above is wrong or misleading and that a frame switch should 
> actually exit an incremental search.  In which case this bug would be a 
> wontfix.
> 
> I'm fine with that point of view as long as I'm allowed to let frame 
> switches keep isearch alive in some way or other.  I understand that the 
> buffer switch (resulting from the frame switch) during an isearch is 
> evil, but I frequently just alt-tab to a different frame, peek something 
> there, alt-tab back, and continue the isearch.

Um, I just tried to not "only peek something" in the second frame, but 
rather type some text, which is of course grabbed by the isearch running 
in the first frame, which is of course highly confusing.

Having tested that, I'd rather vote for wontfix for this bug, hoping 
that I can continue to bind `ignore´ to `switch-frame´ in my very 
personal configuration for more versions to come to keep the behavior as 
I am used to it.

Message #20 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: Farblos <akfkqu.9df7rp <at> vodafonemail.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 09:50:10 +0200

>> I'm fine with that point of view as long as I'm allowed to let frame
>> switches keep isearch alive in some way or other.  I understand that the
>> buffer switch (resulting from the frame switch) during an isearch is
>> evil, but I frequently just alt-tab to a different frame, peek something
>> there, alt-tab back, and continue the isearch.
>
> Um, I just tried to not "only peek something" in the second frame, but
> rather type some text, which is of course grabbed by the isearch running in
> the first frame, which is of course highly confusing.
>
> Having tested that, I'd rather vote for wontfix for this bug, hoping that
> I can continue to bind `ignore´ to `switch-frame´ in my very personal
> configuration for more versions to come to keep the behavior as I am used
> to it.

In https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-04/msg01442.html
a new option 'isearch-buffer-local' was implemented.
It could help in such situations when you need to switch
temporarily to another frame/buffer without exiting isearch.

Message #23 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Cc: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Farblos <akfkqu.9df7rp <at> vodafonemail.de>
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 11:53:09 -0700

Hello,

On Thu 09 Mar 2023 at 09:50AM +02, Juri Linkov wrote:

>>> I'm fine with that point of view as long as I'm allowed to let frame
>>> switches keep isearch alive in some way or other.  I understand that the
>>> buffer switch (resulting from the frame switch) during an isearch is
>>> evil, but I frequently just alt-tab to a different frame, peek something
>>> there, alt-tab back, and continue the isearch.
>>
>> Um, I just tried to not "only peek something" in the second frame, but
>> rather type some text, which is of course grabbed by the isearch running in
>> the first frame, which is of course highly confusing.
>>
>> Having tested that, I'd rather vote for wontfix for this bug, hoping that
>> I can continue to bind `ignore´ to `switch-frame´ in my very personal
>> configuration for more versions to come to keep the behavior as I am used
>> to it.
>
> In https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-04/msg01442.html
> a new option 'isearch-buffer-local' was implemented.
> It could help in such situations when you need to switch
> temporarily to another frame/buffer without exiting isearch.

Looks like this hasn't been installed?  May I ask why?

I'd love this.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Message #26 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Farblos <akfkqu.9df7rp <at> vodafonemail.de>
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 21:51:58 +0200

>> In https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-04/msg01442.html
>> a new option 'isearch-buffer-local' was implemented.
>> It could help in such situations when you need to switch
>> temporarily to another frame/buffer without exiting isearch.
>
> Looks like this hasn't been installed?  May I ask why?

Because it required a small change in C part in
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-05/msg00490.html
but no one confirmed if this is the right thing to do.

> I'd love this.

Thanks for showing interest in this feature.
I will revive it and submit a complete patch soon.

Message #29 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu <at> vodafonemail.de>
To: 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 23:37:28 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

To summarize:

I have been confused by a misleading comment in ispell.el - frame 
switches should actually exit isearch.  Others have been confused as 
well, see https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=41338#59.

Attached is a patch that changes the comment to avoid future confusion. 
I'm still in the process of FSF copyright assignment, but the patch 
probably classifies as paperwork-exempt, anyway.

If you feel that this all not worth the hassle, you can also just close 
this bug without patching anything.

[0001-Clarify-misleading-comment-in-isearch.el.patch (text/x-patch, attachment)]

Message #32 received at 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu <at> vodafonemail.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 62032 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 19:30:50 +0300

> To summarize:
>
> I have been confused by a misleading comment in ispell.el - frame switches
> should actually exit isearch.  Others have been confused as well, see
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=41338#59.
>
> Attached is a patch that changes the comment to avoid future confusion. I'm
> still in the process of FSF copyright assignment, but the patch probably
> classifies as paperwork-exempt, anyway.
>
> If you feel that this all not worth the hassle, you can also just close
> this bug without patching anything.
>
> -    ;; Pass frame events transparently so they won't exit the search.
> -    ;; In particular, if we have more than one display open, then a
> -    ;; switch-frame might be generated by someone typing at another keyboard.
> +    ;; Frame events should exit the search, because such frame events
> +    ;; as `switch-frame’ and `delete-frame’ change the current buffer.
> +    ;; See Bug#41338 for details.
>      (define-key map [switch-frame] nil)
>      (define-key map [delete-frame] nil)
>      (define-key map [iconify-frame] nil)

Such comment could be pushed to emacs-29.

Then emacs-30 hopefully will support a new feature
'isearch-buffer-local' allowing not to exit isearch
after switching frames.

Message #37 received at 62032-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu <at> vodafonemail.de>
Cc: 62032-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, juri <at> linkov.net
Subject: Re: bug#62032: 28.2; `switch-frame' event exits incremental search
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 13:44:51 +0300

> Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 23:37:28 +0200
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
> From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu <at> vodafonemail.de>
> 
> To summarize:
> 
> I have been confused by a misleading comment in ispell.el - frame 
> switches should actually exit isearch.  Others have been confused as 
> well, see https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=41338#59.
> 
> Attached is a patch that changes the comment to avoid future confusion. 
> I'm still in the process of FSF copyright assignment, but the patch 
> probably classifies as paperwork-exempt, anyway.

Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the bug.

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