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Subject: bug#62072: 29.0.60; tree-sitter interferes with Custom
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On a build without some tree-sitter libraries, click:

  Options -> Customize Emacs -> Toplevel Customization Group

then click Programming -> Languages.  A warning about not being able to
find certain tree-sitter libraries will pop up.

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Subject: bug#62072: 29.0.60; tree-sitter interferes with Custom
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> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> Cc: emacs-devel@HIDDEN
> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:06:51 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > Which missing grammar libraries cause this?  I tried a few, but
> > couldn't see any warnings.
> 
> All you have to do is click on "Programming -> Languages".  Here's one
> warning message I got:
> 
>  ■  Warning (treesit): Cannot activate tree-sitter, because language grammar for ruby is unavailable (not-found): (libtree-sitter-ruby libtree-sitter-ruby.so) No such file or directory

I already tried with ruby: I renamed the grammar library to another
name, but I don't see any warnings.  That's why I asked.

> but IIRC I also saw another errors on builds without tree-sitter at all.

That's a different situation, I think (I do see that in a build
without tree-sitter).

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@HIDDEN
>> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:06:51 +0800
>>=20
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>>=20
>> > Which missing grammar libraries cause this?  I tried a few, but
>> > couldn't see any warnings.
>>=20
>> All you have to do is click on "Programming -> Languages".  Here's one
>> warning message I got:
>>=20
>>  =E2=96=A0  Warning (treesit): Cannot activate tree-sitter, because lang=
uage grammar for ruby is unavailable (not-found): (libtree-sitter-ruby libt=
ree-sitter-ruby.so) No such file or directory
>
> I already tried with ruby: I renamed the grammar library to another
> name, but I don't see any warnings.  That's why I asked.

That's odd... are you sure you don't have another Ruby library somewhere
else?

>> but IIRC I also saw another errors on builds without tree-sitter at all.
>
> That's a different situation, I think (I do see that in a build
> without tree-sitter).

Well, both have to be fixed.

Thanks.

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> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 62072 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 21:29:50 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > I already tried with ruby: I renamed the grammar library to another
> > name, but I don't see any warnings.  That's why I asked.
> 
> That's odd... are you sure you don't have another Ruby library somewhere
> else?

Yes, because "M-x ruby-ts-mode RET" does complain aboiut the missing
library.

> >> but IIRC I also saw another errors on builds without tree-sitter at all.
> >
> > That's a different situation, I think (I do see that in a build
> > without tree-sitter).
> 
> Well, both have to be fixed.

No, not necessarily.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 62072 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 21:29:50 +0800
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> 
>> > I already tried with ruby: I renamed the grammar library to another
>> > name, but I don't see any warnings.  That's why I asked.
>> 
>> That's odd... are you sure you don't have another Ruby library somewhere
>> else?
>
> Yes, because "M-x ruby-ts-mode RET" does complain aboiut the missing
> library.

That's odd.  I will do a make bootstrap and ack.

> No, not necessarily.

Why?

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> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> > No, not necessarily.
> 
> Why?

Because it's a known issue for which there's no known way of fixing it
without causing worse problems.  And because the problem is not very
severe and happens in relatively rare use cases.

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I don't see the problem with ruby-ts-mode on emacs-29 after doing `make
bootstrap', but I still see it on master.

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

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>> Cc: 62072 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:32:44 +0800
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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>> > No, not necessarily.
>> 
>> Why?
>
> Because it's a known issue for which there's no known way of fixing it
> without causing worse problems.  And because the problem is not very
> severe and happens in relatively rare use cases.

Why is this?

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> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 62072 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 16:33:43 +0800
> 
> I don't see the problem with ruby-ts-mode on emacs-29 after doing `make
> bootstrap', but I still see it on master.

Master could take a couple of days to get the changes from the branch.

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >> From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: 62072 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:32:44 +0800
> >> 
> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> >> 
> >> > No, not necessarily.
> >> 
> >> Why?
> >
> > Because it's a known issue for which there's no known way of fixing it
> > without causing worse problems.  And because the problem is not very
> > severe and happens in relatively rare use cases.
> 
> Why is this?

Why is what?

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> Why is what?

I mean, why can't we wrap whatever in Custom is generating the warning
inside `with-no-warnings' for now?

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