GNU bug report logs - #62229
29.0.60; It's no longer possible to customize the xref ring size

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>

Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 22:12:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 29.0.60

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.60; It's no longer possible to customize the xref ring size
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:11:06 -0400
Emacs 28 had the function xref-set-marker-ring-length and the
customizable variable xref-marker-ring-length which allowed growing
the amount of history kept by xref.

This feature has been lost in Emacs 29; that variable has been
obsoleted with no replacement.

It's not clear, looking at the change, whether this is because the
size is now infinite or not.  The same commit that obsoleted that
variable added the similar tags-location-ring-length.  However that
variable has no docstring, no customize hooks, and setting it has no
effect unless tags-reset-tags-tables is called.

At the very least, all this should be documented better, and the
obsoleting of this function and variable should be mentioned in NEWS.
If the history is indeed infinite now, that should be mentioned in
NEWS as well.


In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo
 version 1.15.12, Xaw scroll bars) of 2023-03-13 built on
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Repository revision: e759905d2e0828eac4c8164b09113b40f6899656
Repository branch: emacs-29
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000
System Description: CentOS Linux 7 (Core)

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Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62229; Package emacs. (Fri, 17 Mar 2023 00:04:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>, 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62229: 29.0.60; It's no longer possible to customize the xref
 ring size
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 02:03:46 +0200
Hi!

On 17/03/2023 00:11, Spencer Baugh wrote:
> 
> Emacs 28 had the function xref-set-marker-ring-length and the
> customizable variable xref-marker-ring-length which allowed growing
> the amount of history kept by xref.
> 
> This feature has been lost in Emacs 29; that variable has been
> obsoleted with no replacement.
> 
> It's not clear, looking at the change, whether this is because the
> size is now infinite or not.  The same commit that obsoleted that
> variable added the similar tags-location-ring-length.  However that
> variable has no docstring, no customize hooks, and setting it has no
> effect unless tags-reset-tags-tables is called.
> 
> At the very least, all this should be documented better, and the
> obsoleting of this function and variable should be mentioned in NEWS.
> If the history is indeed infinite now, that should be mentioned in
> NEWS as well.

It is indeed infinite now, and limiting it would require additional effort.

Would you like to propose a patch for NEWS? I.e. describe it the way you 
prefer it had been described.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62229; Package emacs. (Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:18:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
Cc: 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62229: 29.0.60;
 It's no longer possible to customize the xref ring size
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:17:28 +0200
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:11:06 -0400
> 
> 
> Emacs 28 had the function xref-set-marker-ring-length and the
> customizable variable xref-marker-ring-length which allowed growing
> the amount of history kept by xref.
> 
> This feature has been lost in Emacs 29; that variable has been
> obsoleted with no replacement.
> 
> It's not clear, looking at the change, whether this is because the
> size is now infinite or not.  The same commit that obsoleted that
> variable added the similar tags-location-ring-length.  However that
> variable has no docstring, no customize hooks, and setting it has no
> effect unless tags-reset-tags-tables is called.
> 
> At the very least, all this should be documented better, and the
> obsoleting of this function and variable should be mentioned in NEWS.
> If the history is indeed infinite now, that should be mentioned in
> NEWS as well.

Indeed, that change paid very little attention to documenting the
important aspects of adding Xref history and using it instead of a
limited-size ring.  We should do better.

I've now attempted to add the missing documentation; please take a
look at the latest emacs-29 branch.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62229; Package emacs. (Fri, 17 Mar 2023 12:03:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #14 received at 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62229: 29.0.60; It's no longer possible to customize the xref
 ring size
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:02:22 -0400
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 04:17 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
> > Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:11:06 -0400
> >
> >
> > Emacs 28 had the function xref-set-marker-ring-length and the
> > customizable variable xref-marker-ring-length which allowed growing
> > the amount of history kept by xref.
> >
> > This feature has been lost in Emacs 29; that variable has been
> > obsoleted with no replacement.
> >
> > It's not clear, looking at the change, whether this is because the
> > size is now infinite or not.  The same commit that obsoleted that
> > variable added the similar tags-location-ring-length.  However that
> > variable has no docstring, no customize hooks, and setting it has no
> > effect unless tags-reset-tags-tables is called.
> >
> > At the very least, all this should be documented better, and the
> > obsoleting of this function and variable should be mentioned in NEWS.
> > If the history is indeed infinite now, that should be mentioned in
> > NEWS as well.
>
> Indeed, that change paid very little attention to documenting the
> important aspects of adding Xref history and using it instead of a
> limited-size ring.  We should do better.
>
> I've now attempted to add the missing documentation; please take a
> look at the latest emacs-29 branch.
>

Yes, looks great! Covers all my concerns!

>
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Reply sent to Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Fri, 17 Mar 2023 12:17:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>:
bug acknowledged by developer. (Fri, 17 Mar 2023 12:17:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #19 received at 62229-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
Cc: 62229-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62229: 29.0.60; It's no longer possible to customize the xref
 ring size
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 14:16:44 +0200
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:02:22 -0400
> Cc: 62229 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Yes, looks great! Covers all my concerns!

Thanks, so I'm closing this bug report.




bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 15 Apr 2023 11:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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