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30.0.50; Thoughts about (info "(emacs) Bugs")

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 21 Mar 2023 05:24:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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> From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:23:42 +0100
> 
> I have some small suggestions to make (info "(emacs) Bugs") even more
> complete.
> 
> The first I want to say is that, while we are telling a lot of
> (technical) details, we are missing a bit to tell what creating a bug
> report means practically, how it works in general.  I mean simple things
> like these that are trivial for us but still not clear to everybody:

"Bugs" is a catch-all chapter with almost no contents of its own; all
the real contents is in its sections.  Are your comments to that
chapter, or specifically to one of its sections, such as "Checklist"?
It is hard to think about your comments without understanding to which
part(s) of the manual are they alluding.




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Hello,

I have some small suggestions to make (info "(emacs) Bugs") even more
complete.

The first I want to say is that, while we are telling a lot of
(technical) details, we are missing a bit to tell what creating a bug
report means practically, how it works in general.  I mean simple things
like these that are trivial for us but still not clear to everybody:

  Basically everything works by using Email.  As the author of the bug
  report you'll be sent a CC copy of every message that belongs to that
  bug [it is important to let people know that e.g. a question of
  somebody is not necessarily addressed to the bug author].

  You can reply normally to any of those messages.  If you do so please
  be sure to keep the address that has been assigned to the bug (it
  looks like 12345 <at> debbugs.gnu.org) in the list of recipients before
  sending your reply because else the bug tracker will not receive your
  message [lot's of people do this wrong!].

[...] parts are comments from me about the text, not part of the text.

Then I wonder if we could say that it is helpful when the author loads
relevant Elisp files before recording an Elisp backtrace [with a short
explanation of what "relevant" means, and how that can be achieved].

Hmm - I think that's already it for now.  You'll probably want to find a
better wording.


TIA,

Michael.


In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 27, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version
 1.16.0) of 2023-03-20 built on drachen
Repository revision: aa54a24570e526b5438264caacf405a2370ba9d3
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000
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Acknowledgement sent to Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#62320; Package emacs. Full text available.
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