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Inconsistent guile enviornment from guix shell

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Package: guix; Reported by: Skyler <skyvine@HIDDEN>; Keywords: patch; dated Sat, 25 Mar 2023 19:12:01 UTC; Maintainer for guix is bug-guix@HIDDEN.
Added tag(s) patch. Request was from Josselin Poiret <dev@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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Hi Skyler,

Skyler <skyvine@HIDDEN> writes:

> Is there a normal timeline for patch review or is it mor of an "as resour=
ces allow" type of deal?

Unfortunately no, there are no guarantees: someone needs to take some
time to look at this, and we can't force anyone to do it.  The fact that
it's in a bug report instead of a patch submission probably doesn't
help, let me see if I can fix this with a debbugs command.

Best,
=2D-=20
Josselin Poiret

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Is there a normal timeline for patch review or is it mor of an "as resource=
s allow" type of deal?

------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, March 30th, 2023 at 1:42 PM, Josselin Poiret <dev@HIDDEN>=
 wrote:


> * doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix shell): Explain that python must be includ=
ed in
> the invocation even if it is already available in the external environmen=
t.
>=20
> Suggested-by: Skyler skyvine@HIDDEN
>=20
> ---
> doc/guix.texi | 10 +++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>=20
> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
> index c49e51b72e..879a526b77 100644
> --- a/doc/guix.texi
> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
> @@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Domagoj Stolfa@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Hui Lu@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2021 pukkamustard@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Alice Brenon@*
> -Copyright @copyright{} 2021, 2022 Josselin Poiret@*
> +Copyright @copyright{} 2021, 2022, 2023 Josselin Poiret@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2021 muradm@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2021, 2022 Andrew Tropin@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Sarah Morgensen@*
> @@ -5959,6 +5959,14 @@ building or downloading any missing package, and r=
uns the
> guix shell python python-numpy -- python3
> @end example
>=20
> +Note that it is necessary to include the main @code{python} package in
> +this command even if it is already installed into your environment. This
> +is so that the shell environment knows to set @env{PYTHONPATH} and other
> +related variables. The shell environment cannot check the previously
> +installed environment, because then it would be non-deterministic. This
> +is true for most libraries: their corresponding language package should
> +be included in the shell invocation.
> +
> @quotation Note
> @cindex shebang, for @command{guix shell}
> @command{guix shell} can be also be used as a script interpreter, also
>=20
> base-commit: be5e280e5fe26f93bd5a6e3f76e4502edb913a94
> --
> 2.39.2




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* doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix shell): Explain that python must be included in
the invocation even if it is already available in the external environment.

Suggested-by: Skyler <skyvine@HIDDEN>
---
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 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
index c49e51b72e..879a526b77 100644
--- a/doc/guix.texi
+++ b/doc/guix.texi
@@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Domagoj Stolfa@*
 Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Hui Lu@*
 Copyright @copyright{} 2021 pukkamustard@*
 Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Alice Brenon@*
-Copyright @copyright{} 2021, 2022 Josselin Poiret@*
+Copyright @copyright{} 2021, 2022, 2023 Josselin Poiret@*
 Copyright @copyright{} 2021 muradm@*
 Copyright @copyright{} 2021, 2022 Andrew Tropin@*
 Copyright @copyright{} 2021 Sarah Morgensen@*
@@ -5959,6 +5959,14 @@ building or downloading any missing package, and runs the
 guix shell python python-numpy -- python3
 @end example
 
+Note that it is necessary to include the main @code{python} package in
+this command even if it is already installed into your environment. This
+is so that the shell environment knows to set @env{PYTHONPATH} and other
+related variables. The shell environment cannot check the previously
+installed environment, because then it would be non-deterministic.  This
+is true for most libraries: their corresponding language package should
+be included in the shell invocation.
+
 @quotation Note
 @cindex shebang, for @command{guix shell}
 @command{guix shell} can be also be used as a script interpreter, also

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Hi Skyler,

It's a shame that nobody had pointed out this (quite common) missing
piece earlier.

Skyler via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@HIDDEN> writes:

> In spite of being reasonable, it is not particularly intuitive. Could I r=
ecommend an addition to the manual in section "7.1 Invoking guix-shell", ad=
ding text like the below after the example invocation `guix shell python py=
thon-numpy -- python3=E2=80=8B`?
>
> "Note that it is necessary to include the main python package in this com=
mand even if it is already installed into your environment. This is so that=
 the shell environment knows to set PYTHONPATH and other related variables.=
 The shell environment cannot check the previously installed environment, b=
ecause then it would be non-deterministic."

Yes, this would be a good idea.  I can try to do this right now.

Best,
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Josselin Poiret

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Hello,

The modules available in a guile REPL seem to be inconsistent after runnin=
g the guix shell command, where using the -D flag to create a development =
environment behaves as expected, but leaving out that flag to add the pack=
age itself to the environment does not. I am experiencing this issue with =
some random code on my machine, but I will use guile-pubstrate defined in =
guix code (https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/gu=
ile-xyz.scm?id=3D04724e59971b03f86a410285653d24005c62b924#n340) as an exam=
ple for reproduction. Note that guile-pubstrate lists guile-webutils as a =
propagated input.

When I use `guix shell -D guile-pubstrate`, I am able to import the `(webu=
tils bytevectors)` module, as I would expect. I am not able to import `(pu=
bstrate apclient)`, also as I would expect. Inspecting GUILE_LOAD_PATH sho=
ws that a new profile path was added which contains the dependencies:

$ guix shell -D guile-pubstrate --checkguix shell: checking the environmen=
t variables visible from shell '/gnu/store/d99ykvj3axzzidygsmdmzxah4lvxd6h=
w-bash-5.1.8/bin/bash'...
guix shell: All is good! =C2=A0The shell gets correct environment variable=
s.
[env]$ guile
GNU Guile 3.0.7
Copyright (C) 1995-2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Guile comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `,show w'.
This program is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `,show c' for details.

Enter `,help' for help.
scheme@(guile-user)> (use-modules (webutils bytevectors))
scheme@(guile-user)> (use-modules (pubstrate apclient))
While compiling expression:
no code for module (pubstrate apclient)
scheme@(guile-user)> ,q
[env]$ echo $GUILE_LOAD_PATH
/gnu/store/pr4vyrz2xsziv25hrdfyim0wy331p4z5-profile/share/guile/site/3.0:/=
run/current-system/profile/share/guile/site/3.0:/home/skyler/.guix-profile=
/share/guile/site/3.0
$ ls /gnu/store/pr4vyrz2xsziv25hrdfyim0wy331p4z5-profile/share/guile/site/=
3.0
8sync =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0apicheck.scm =C2=A0config =C2=A0 =C2=A0 debuggin=
g =C2=A0fibers =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0gcrypt =C2=A0 =C2=A0gnutls =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0graph =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 io =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 match-bi=
nd.scm =C2=A0md5.scm =C2=A0rx =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0search =C2=A0sjson.scm =C2=
=A0term =C2=A0 =C2=A0 text =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 web
8sync.scm =C2=A0compat =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0container =C2=A0fash.scm=
 =C2=A0 fibers.scm =C2=A0gdbm.scm =C2=A0gnutls.scm =C2=A0htmlprag.scm =C2=A0=
logging =C2=A0math =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0os =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 scheme =C2=A0sjson =C2=A0 string =C2=A0 =C2=A0 texinfo =C2=A0u=
nit-test.scm =C2=A0webutils

However, when I use guix shell guile-pubstrate, neither (webutils bytevect=
ors) nor (pubstrate apclient) are available. I would expect both of them t=
o be, the former because it is a propagated input and the latter because i=
t is the package that was directly added. If guile was able to locate pubs=
trate's modules, I would expect loading to fail because its runtime depend=
encies are not available. Inspecting GUILE_LOAD_PATH shows that nothing wa=
s added to it:

$ guix shell guile-pubstrate --check
guix shell: checking the environment variables visible from shell '/gnu/st=
ore/d99ykvj3axzzidygsmdmzxah4lvxd6hw-bash-5.1.8/bin/bash'...
guix shell: All is good! =C2=A0The shell gets correct environment variable=
s.
[env]$ guile
GNU Guile 3.0.9
Copyright (C) 1995-2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Guile comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `,show w'.
This program is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `,show c' for details.

Enter `,help' for help.
scheme@(guile-user)> (use-modules (webutils bytevectors))
While compiling expression:
no code for module (webutils bytevectors)
scheme@(guile-user)> (use-modules (pubstrate apclient))
While compiling expression:
no code for module (pubstrate apclient)
scheme@(guile-user)> ,q
[env]$ echo $GUILE_LOAD_PATH
/run/current-system/profile/share/guile/site/3.0:/home/skyler/.guix-profil=
e/share/guile/site/3.0


This is not an issue with the guile-pubstrate definition in particular, be=
cause guix shell guile-webutils also fails to add its modules to my enviro=
nment:


$ guix shell --check guile-webutilsThe following derivation will be built:
=C2=A0 /gnu/store/ca8gv3yk2khs0h60kc5v682g7gvfqd23-profile.drv

building CA certificate bundle...
listing Emacs sub-directories...
building fonts directory...
building directory of Info manuals...
building profile with 1 package...
guix shell: checking the environment variables visible from shell '/gnu/st=
ore/d99ykvj3axzzidygsmdmzxah4lvxd6hw-bash-5.1.8/bin/bash'...
guix shell: All is good! =C2=A0The shell gets correct environment variable=
s.
[env]$ guile
GNU Guile 3.0.9
Copyright (C) 1995-2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Guile comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `,show w'.
This program is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `,show c' for details.

Enter `,help' for help.
scheme@(guile-user)> (use-modules (webutils bytevectors))
While compiling expression:
no code for module (webutils bytevectors)

My machine is up-to-date as of today:

Generation 32 Mar 25 2023 11:32:38 (current)=C2=A0 guix 04724e5
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 branch: master
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 commit: 04724e59971b03f86a410285653d24005c62b924
=C2=A0 rde a7b5944
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 repository URL: https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 branch: master
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 commit: a7b59443405169600a00f0b295a3fb1de360cb0b


Let me know if there is anything I can do to help diagnose or fix this iss=
ue.


Thanks,
Skyler
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New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-guix@HIDDEN:
bug#62448; Package guix. Full text available.
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