GNU bug report logs - #62484
Join INSTALL and INSTALL.REPO

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:45:04 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: notabug, wontfix

Done: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>

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Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62484; Package emacs. (Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:45:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: c.buhtz <at> posteo.jp
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Join INSTALL and INSTALL.REPO
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:40:20 +0000
Hello,

IMHO it is unusual that a build system depends on if I use a tarball or 
a git repo. Never seen this before. No matter that there might be good 
technical reason to this it should be adopted to the "usual" users.

A user does look into a README first, finds no build infos and then 
looks for a BUILD file. Can't find one and tries INSTALL (which is not 
intended to have build infos because build and install are different 
things). User (me) found an INSTALL and stuck to it. 
configure-make-system is usual and known. No need to read all the docs 
from the beginning (where the link is to the exception INSTALL.REPO). So 
I just started at "2." and it failed because I used a git repo instead 
of a tarball.

You see.

IMHO it would improve the things if you would join INSTALL and 
INSTALL.REPO back together and also put a TOC on top of it.

I assume there is technically no way to remove the difference between 
tarball-build and git-build, right?

Kind
Christian

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Subject: Re: bug#62484: Acknowledgement (Join INSTALL and INSTALL.REPO)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:18:41 +0300
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Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 04 Sep 2023 08:44:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: c.buhtz <at> posteo.jp
Cc: 62484 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62484: Join INSTALL and INSTALL.REPO
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 17:01:21 -0700
tags 62484 wontfix notabug
close 62484
thanks

c.buhtz <at> posteo.jp writes:

> IMHO it is unusual that a build system depends on if I use a tarball or a git
> repo. Never seen this before. No matter that there might be good technical
> reason to this it should be adopted to the "usual" users.
>
> A user does look into a README first, finds no build infos and then looks for a
> BUILD file. Can't find one and tries INSTALL (which is not intended to have
> build infos because build and install are different things). User (me) found an
> INSTALL and stuck to it. configure-make-system is usual and known. No need to
> read all the docs from the beginning (where the link is to the exception
> INSTALL.REPO). So I just started at "2." and it failed because I used a git repo
> instead of a tarball.
>
> You see.
>
> IMHO it would improve the things if you would join INSTALL and INSTALL.REPO back
> together and also put a TOC on top of it.

Unfortunately, I think that would just confuse the situation even more.
Users building from the tarball should not have to worry about the
details in INSTALL.REPO.  This takes priority over users pulling the git
repository.

> I assume there is technically no way to remove the difference between
> tarball-build and git-build, right?

Correct.

On balance, I'm closing this bug.  Sorry.




Added tag(s) notabug and wontfix. Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:02:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 62484 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 06 Sep 2023 00:02:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 04 Oct 2023 11:24:41 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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