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Major modes can tell >> us what makes sense themselves, and if there are modes where the >> decision is not clear-cut, they could make it into a user option. >> >> Enabling something like `flymake-global-mode' and have it just work >> would be pretty neat. > > I guess you mean flyspell-mode. > > Yes, having the command automatically DTRT is always best. So if we > can do that in at least some significant proportion of cases, I think > we should. I took a look, and it seems like it would be a relatively straightforward addition to `flyspell-mode'. I'm adding the tag "easy", as this seems like a pretty good introductory project. Here's the plan I'd propose: Add a new defvar-local `flyspell-use-prog-mode' or somesuch that major modes can set. Now, when a user enables `flymake-mode' in a buffer where that variable is non-nil, the extra stuff done in `flyspell-prog-mode' gets done too. Then decide which built-in major modes that would benefit, and set that variable in them. Would `prog-mode' be a candidate though, or do we expect any modes inheriting from it to want the regular `flyspell-mode'?
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In buffers that conta= in >> > code, =E2=80=98flyspell-prog-mode=E2=80=99 is usually a better choice. > > The above is inaccurate as well: text-derived modes for markup text > can also benefit. Basically, anything where you have keywords that > are not necessarily words in a human language. FWIW, that's actually not been clear to me. I've only use it in `prog-mode' derived modes so far. But perhaps this goes even deeper: I'm not sure why I can't just enable `flymake-mode' and have it do the right thing, which IMO would be to enable `flymake-prog-mode' in modes where it might make sense to have that behavior. Major modes can tell us what makes sense themselves, and if there are modes where the decision is not clear-cut, they could make it into a user option. Enabling something like `flymake-global-mode' and have it just work would be pretty neat.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#62677; Package emacs.
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Full text available.Received: (at 62677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2023 04:48:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 10 00:48:09 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pljRp-0003wm-94 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:48:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pljRm-0003vV-Ig for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:48:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pljRh-0002p0-56 for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:48:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=nlcSKMtdMOeqxuavMHWMSBwjZkVtUgkefU6fcoTHWAo=; b=RG1+Q66p+ghX iddMzOz/lsp+aG6W82fBRFDuBI+wfY1dfGQyUvYbQU93QEEZvnWZYm8yTMpS6Vi7bj6n/FDACetKW 2K1lFZNJnOSmOcUuQWFasKgOyoZYwrFuFGFRZrg5fgZONywD6AQTd9OdEeYNU4vSCWSXY4OXGDzNC TTX5Xq/peWza4zMYQzVPnwp2Ajz8vZeZ7qkqz+bZGaX3qhCYv4SSFzUf0V1c+ZavMxyYmqGWBkR5w V7QR4XH+0fP0mq3Ul0dOMYLHgzweNW0WlFOsXkZ5LpJQg+hkCcw5E+Ov8ui3CMy6dPJbxuIuA+Zq7 O27Hlt7QUEejc3KDpETz4A==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pljRZ-00058U-FN; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:47:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 07:48:33 +0300 Message-Id: <83pm8cl4v2.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: rms@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <E1plhen-0000gx-PN@HIDDEN> (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:25 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rf7ql1y.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cuq5q0p.fsf@HIDDEN> <834jpus647.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1pkc45-0002aX-Ux@HIDDEN> <83edowp55h.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1plhen-0000gx-PN@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 Cc: 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> > Cc: 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:25 -0400 > > > > > flyspell-skip-keywords-mode > > > > flyspell-ignore-keywords-mode > > > > > > I don't think that name correctly describes what the function does. > > > Its code suggests that it limits spell checking to string constants > > > and comments. > > > ??? Where do you see a reference to strings and comments in the two > > names I suggested? > > I saw that in a diff that was in one of the emails in this thread. That was a suggestion from someone else, and I agree that it is sub-optimal, for the reasons you gave. Which is why I suggested different names, without a reference to comments or strings.
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Full text available.Received: (at 62677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2023 02:53:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 09 22:53:37 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34001 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1plhey-0000fc-Ru for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1plhew-0000fP-V2 for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1plher-0006ZC-IO for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=L6oUClRya8v4Z44XILxZldFdYhdaDiK5kU1vtVpe/0M=; b=oGBeqsTpLt1y Up7KvMhRELwzVlRdQST3dGyXzad6+7HyEz+o02hrXm8Z/gEdlv7hVtiVHL3CoDz3CbW9CEfliCzFg XhP3k7QwDqTZfkzWYdYok9VCUQ/mHzo0gFwNm+EfvBd29/ZnnNJ15yPuyhSbmT3ZG9p1e7ySo+kjO NwMWsgC7l8e364MkGHUrAQ7JewJN5I4eoPbCDbb92tXiiZtSaZb/OzgMr2NeTdJ0cD0bphwNeEHQf S/MZLDN4vRxKComwVdnBqyaXPDWIFpl0rYOHYCJ3oR87vj6ovtBwuxfj4XdqKpHI2kI7vG8+l8te5 jk+8SrmQrPLFo8ceyZWJoQ==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <rms@HIDDEN>) id 1plhen-0000gx-PN; Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:26 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83edowp55h.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 07 Apr 2023 09:39:38 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rf7ql1y.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cuq5q0p.fsf@HIDDEN> <834jpus647.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1pkc45-0002aX-Ux@HIDDEN> <83edowp55h.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-Id: <E1plhen-0000gx-PN@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2023 22:53:25 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 Cc: 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: rms@HIDDEN Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > flyspell-skip-keywords-mode > > > flyspell-ignore-keywords-mode > > > > I don't think that name correctly describes what the function does. > > Its code suggests that it limits spell checking to string constants > > and comments. > ??? Where do you see a reference to strings and comments in the two > names I suggested? I saw that in a diff that was in one of the emails in this thread. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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Full text available.Received: (at 62677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2023 06:39:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 07 02:39:27 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55595 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pkfks-0006ya-Rt for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 02:39:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pkfkr-0006yL-1y for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 02:39:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pkfkl-0002Sj-ER for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 02:39:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=l9Jhf67+aAg6LD/NWqkYgPAbcWqEx3ornhz2bw8iDN4=; b=Fu1c/VdeVU5Z 9IDfvkQmW2Xh4aT3aYYrUC8crwTQa847YOtXT+gAcNhGideyvhfvw9GHQ86p/H9KGO++g949HS2jk L50J5rYWWa7DMVREvhyMTKUjELxbe2kz6pJwUkPv6rYqL7D1AXO3Wclm+q1XgPL4A+xeLoI+1Vedu 5ORIXN/tGmD/f5lEPJ5u4DxIJ43+gjM1O3ae9tEg5XWpM2H976F3rRik2xP0eqHuN2uUFwvHlwHDe l9dvMLGoUYwfGBnuwSpAK8accvncVZCejpTs//EJHNpHoGC7/Z9rL7ds+/LB7Fy1gRtWlZqcV+azu HaKUw1OYrX0QRoEg2oBdDg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pkfkY-0000OW-HF; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 02:39:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 09:39:38 +0300 Message-Id: <83edowp55h.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: rms@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <E1pkc45-0002aX-Ux@HIDDEN> (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 06 Apr 2023 22:43:01 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rf7ql1y.fsf@HIDDEN> <877cuq5q0p.fsf@HIDDEN> <834jpus647.fsf@HIDDEN> <E1pkc45-0002aX-Ux@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 Cc: 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN> > Cc: 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2023 22:43:01 -0400 > > > flyspell-skip-keywords-mode > > flyspell-ignore-keywords-mode > > I don't think that name correctly describes what the function does. > Its code suggests that it limits spell checking to string constants > and comments. ??? Where do you see a reference to strings and comments in the two names I suggested? > That means, if I understand it right, that keywords > won't be spell checked, and symbol names also won't be spell checked. "Symbol" has no meaning for descendants of Text mode which use markup commands. It is only meaningful for programming language modes. And this feature is not limited to programming languages, that's the source of the original confusing name to begin with.
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a18-20020a1709027d9200b001a5059861adsm1020013plm.224.2023.04.06.10.46.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Apr 2023 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7dd7ff53-64e5-80fe-f375-fbdbda5b055f@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 10:46:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> <076460cb-f203-de49-c949-bdc213fd1965@HIDDEN> <83y1n5r0i9.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83y1n5r0i9.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 Cc: michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN, 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 4/5/2023 11:24 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 13:29:59 -0700 >> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> >> >> On 4/5/2023 6:13 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: >>> `flyspell-prog-mode' is a variant of `flyspell-mode' for editing >>> programs: it limits spell checking to areas of text fontified with >>> certain faces (`flyspell-prog-text-faces', normally strings and >>> comments). The intention is obviously to skip keywords and tags that >>> are used by the programming language itself. >> >> For what it's worth, when I started using flyspell-mode last year and >> subsequently discovered flyspell-prog-mode, I immediately understood >> what its intent was from the name. So from my perspective, it's actually >> a very good name. > > That depends on what you understood ;-) It could be that you > understood it immediately, but incorrectly or inaccurately. To be clear, my understanding was that 'flyspell-prog-mode' is what you should use for modes where some text should be ignored for spell-checking. (Code is the most obvious example, but not the only one.) >>> This mode is geared toward text modes. In buffers that contain >>> code, ‘flyspell-prog-mode’ is usually a better choice. > > The above is inaccurate as well: text-derived modes for markup text > can also benefit. Basically, anything where you have keywords that > are not necessarily words in a human language. Maybe something like this would be more-precise? "This mode spell checks all the text in a buffer. In buffers that contain text that shouldn't be spell-checked (such as code or markup), 'flyspell-prog-mode' is usually a better choice." Then, we could expand on the docstring for 'flyspell-prog-mode', since it's pretty short right now. > IMO, we should start with what the manual says: > > Flyspell Prog mode works just like ordinary Flyspell mode, except > that it only checks words in comments and string constants. This > feature is useful for editing programs. > > Which might try to explain the name, but in doing so, it misses the > opportunity to let the readers discover what that mode truly is and > what it can do. Yeah, this could probably use a bit of expansion too. It does a reasonable job of explaining why you'd use it in a programming mode, but that's (arguably) already obvious from the name.
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Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50;
Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode
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> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 13:29:59 -0700
> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN>
>
> On 4/5/2023 6:13 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> > `flyspell-prog-mode' is a variant of `flyspell-mode' for editing
> > programs: it limits spell checking to areas of text fontified with
> > certain faces (`flyspell-prog-text-faces', normally strings and
> > comments). The intention is obviously to skip keywords and tags that
> > are used by the programming language itself.
>
> For what it's worth, when I started using flyspell-mode last year and
> subsequently discovered flyspell-prog-mode, I immediately understood
> what its intent was from the name. So from my perspective, it's actually
> a very good name.
That depends on what you understood ;-) It could be that you
understood it immediately, but incorrectly or inaccurately.
> > This mode is geared toward text modes. In buffers that contain
> > code, ‘flyspell-prog-mode’ is usually a better choice.
The above is inaccurate as well: text-derived modes for markup text
can also benefit. Basically, anything where you have keywords that
are not necessarily words in a human language.
> If there are still discoverability issues, then I think we should try to
> provide appropriate keywords in manuals, etc so that it's easier to find
> this.
IMO, we should start with what the manual says:
Flyspell Prog mode works just like ordinary Flyspell mode, except
that it only checks words in comments and string constants. This
feature is useful for editing programs.
Which might try to explain the name, but in doing so, it misses the
opportunity to let the readers discover what that mode truly is and
what it can do.
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 9-20020aa79149000000b0062dd28aaca6sm11013320pfi.212.2023.04.05.13.30.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Apr 2023 13:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <076460cb-f203-de49-c949-bdc213fd1965@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 13:29:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode Content-Language: en-US To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>, 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 4/5/2023 6:13 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > `flyspell-prog-mode' is a variant of `flyspell-mode' for editing > programs: it limits spell checking to areas of text fontified with > certain faces (`flyspell-prog-text-faces', normally strings and > comments). The intention is obviously to skip keywords and tags that > are used by the programming language itself. For what it's worth, when I started using flyspell-mode last year and subsequently discovered flyspell-prog-mode, I immediately understood what its intent was from the name. So from my perspective, it's actually a very good name. In particular, I never got the sense that it was a major mode or that it was *directly* tied to prog-mode; only that flyspell-prog-mode is most useful for programming-like modes (which are usually, but not always, derived from prog-mode). It's possible there's a better name, but is the name really the main problem for discoverability? As far as discoverability goes, I believe I found out about flyspell-prog-mode via flyspell-mode's docstring: > This mode is geared toward text modes. In buffers that contain > code, ‘flyspell-prog-mode’ is usually a better choice. If there are still discoverability issues, then I think we should try to provide appropriate keywords in manuals, etc so that it's easier to find this. The problem of undiscoverable/misleading/opaque names in Emacs comes up fairly regularly (e.g. with Eglot), and while clear naming is helpful, I think it would be more helpful to make it easier for users to search for packages, modes, etc using whatever keywords make sense to them. Then discoverability is more about ensuring that we specify an appropriate set of keywords.
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Full text available.Received: (at 62677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2023 16:29:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 05 12:29:10 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52516 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pk60U-0000pO-5s for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 12:29:10 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:42087) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1pk60S-0000p6-6a for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 12:29:09 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3011A1C0008; Wed, 5 Apr 2023 16:29:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode In-Reply-To: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 05 Apr 2023 15:13:18 +0200") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 19:17:46 +0300 Message-ID: <86fs9efh2l.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 Cc: 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > We should obsolete it and find a better one. Too late to rename it because it runs 'flyspell-prog-mode-hook' customized by users.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#62677; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#62677; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 62677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2023 15:05:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 05 11:05:50 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52414 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pk4hp-0006Vl-WF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 11:05:50 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:40988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <akib@HIDDEN>) id 1pk4hn-0006Va-HZ for 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 11:05:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073B7401EF; Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:05:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with UTF8SMTP id KLLrQ6LxtKSl; Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:05:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Akib Azmain Turja <akib@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1680707144; bh=hJhtbwC407cvfDwYt2yM5dHjLWVAY5U3A1ci6ollua8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=mYHkyRhrOVyTBvsBRtY5Ns3yrQshOLvKwhnwFpQXUjOmpaTARgYS1kjAQa7GK630N /c5oPzOyn7ZeOwQANYD+YPZolJisEpGXMWfqRZ5HakVUv5qW0Z9XFTHC07zY5z3F1D lBo7xqBB+gn915zPqwbRoIxFif6BdblCkHKgl262lQT8GXVBk3O7Pgv6A45teK/L/n rZ2YzR5LgQbUiJMDWVGKZky72J8ykQsHbZKz4VlVZcfsKRuXyailvNf0ZSQRlGZJRR sWnNDoQjjW5sVZNNGgmvJAOyrbmXhRrsK5aq2c1gECjyAaYobL4cWV4AxpQHNy7ce2 zxA4YtoU4piPA== To: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#62677: 30.0.50; Need to find a better name for flyspell-prog-mode In-Reply-To: <878rf7ql1y.fsf@HIDDEN> (Payas Relekar's message of "Wed, 05 Apr 2023 05:02:41 +0530") References: <87mt3mv5e9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rf7ql1y.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 21:04:38 +0600 Message-ID: <877cuq5q0p.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62677 Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>, 62677 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@HIDDEN> writes: > Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > >> `flyspell-prog-mode' is a variant of `flyspell-mode' for editing >> programs: it limits spell checking to areas of text fontified with >> certain faces (`flyspell-prog-text-faces', normally strings and >> comments). The intention is obviously to skip keywords and tags that >> are used by the programming language itself. >> >> In sum the name "flyspell-prog-mode" has become a very bad one. We >> should obsolete it and find a better one. flyspell-human-text-mode? flyspell-comment-and-string-mode? > > flyspell-limit-region-mode ? > -- flyspell-limited-mode? flyspell-ltd-mode? flyspell-co-mode? flyspell-inc-mode? =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja, GPG key: 70018CE5819F17A3BBA666AFE74F0EFA922AE7F5 Fediverse: akib@HIDDEN Codeberg: akib emailselfdefense.fsf.org | "Nothing can be secure without encryption." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEyVTKmrtL6kNBe3FRVTX89U2IYWsFAmQtjgYACgkQVTX89U2I YWudAg/+MRI6ZSQnVKuaKrBCT+0/q6clOaqbTLf0BvKwvxUQl9ABIoW32tyxDlq9 36yB18dfMvLh+a/TEq94pijqv15hbUsbk2o+Uc2oKfWwBvIYKRLAqoka2FGsBA29 D10VfSqf60yWAFAgXqM7VvRaxjFleKCWZo/34ehotWvzkkvar20F4RLJ1ReCkqQ+ +kmhtoAX2fGmp9v5bn1DVAutMe3V62U62OqV9y2gBwpC/OsfkF7fk2ltgeJ82DRp 4FuPa5jCUTP/ObNX1o99UDweXKZodQXrWLkjsVpTmPJMKVCOvIt+nspNnwUV8l20 blFblvhH83U4khLdLOPCF0gVA+Fy7mYOG1cRcUui2greOYTnUVfftNlZnUV/QXOw kDAJMUZrZVyGwmVXMnmvEYug3bXyWhGPkAsCNmaEdAxrG+swyxwq7CKa4H16JBl6 +OHY2CtVIb2NDnTmSCqoV4yne+zmJ8mBwkY7QKUoAADhCZl/LnpF8boG7i0jeziY PpSF6wwHU+FJm59tyZHk0hAv0nnPqyJpC6qJAkgdrmVKpElLY2iKpGabkm8pFyR9 oz8GQsxwQJT8pzq0uZMRXWpv1jc7ahMVQs2I97h2r+EsO/ZH2ZU45Kp5EzA9U5d2 PAC15mygs3QVN/eweVwcPp1SW/DuViZThNGStb91tC+7wHHROgo= =rGfG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--
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envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hello, `flyspell-prog-mode' is a variant of `flyspell-mode' for editing programs: it limits spell checking to areas of text fontified with certain faces (`flyspell-prog-text-faces', normally strings and comments). The intention is obviously to skip keywords and tags that are used by the programming language itself. However, the name is confusing and undiscoverable: the name suggests that `flyspell-prog-mode' has a direct relation to `prog-mode' or that it would be a major mode (like `prog-mode'). `flyspell-prog-mode' seems to be much older than `prog-mode', but since we have added `prog-mode' the name "flyspell-prog-mode" is kind of a "false friend". AFAIU there is no relation between the two names at all but an etymological one. In particular it is not necessary for `flyspell-prog-mode' that the current major mode derives from `prog-mode'. In sum the name "flyspell-prog-mode" has become a very bad one. We should obsolete it and find a better one. TIA, Michael. 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