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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1acef32f65aa7582b1b9e3e80891cad6; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:56:55 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= <mardani29@HIDDEN> To: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#62831: 29.0.90; Emacs-pretest-29.0.90 aarch64 on macOS crashes when receiving a three-finger tap. References: <A3D4BCBB-847D-44D4-8B72-249A46030B4F@HIDDEN> <83leiufy57.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAK_WPLuPi14nG9QB5z8J6guEwvx+ZGhoEws2rAUG7AKWYhitdw@HIDDEN> <83h6tifuhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAK_WPLuFrj5KLLwovaewo9Ue566gh7W=yYjx3-SbW-KuqQmt1w@HIDDEN> <m18resvs9o.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAK_WPLvb7d0747K3HWAMSerbGoeWue2R+dHRfpv6Rcf4OwDa9A@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:56:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CAK_WPLvb7d0747K3HWAMSerbGoeWue2R+dHRfpv6Rcf4OwDa9A@HIDDEN> (Sami Lahtinen's message of "Sun, 16 Apr 2023 09:43:52 +0300") Message-ID: <m1ttxfri2x.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 12540 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62831 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tags 62831 + unreproducible quit Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> writes: > la 15. huhtik. 2023 klo 22.51 Daniel Mart=C3=ADn (mardani29@HIDDEN) kir= joitti: > >> Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> > Unfortunately I am unable to run GDB, as it seems that GDB doesn't run= on >> > aarch64. >> > >> > I tried to debug using LLDB, but since I have no experience with these >> > things I was unable to do so. I can try to find some time to learn the >> > process next week, but it might take a while, as I have never done any >> > debugging before. Maybe someone with more experience has access to an >> Apple >> > silicon machine and can replicate the bug? >> >> If you open Console.app, you should see the Emacs crash there, under >> Crash Reports. Could you upload the report to this bug thread? >> >> I will attach it to this email. I have taken a look at the backtrace and it shows that the crash is in Apple WebKit when it tries to initialize the JS VM (the dictionary popup is apparently implemented using a web viewer). I've converted the backtrace to plain text and attached it to this bug report. > > I can try to pinpont the part of my init.el that is causing this bug, but > it will take a day or two. > Yes, that'd be helpful. If anyone has a detailed recipe to reproduce this bug, feel free to comment. For know, I've tagged the bug as unreproducible. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Backtrace.txt Incident Identifier: 33106A45-08E9-4548-9B21-8487CD0AD39B CrashReporter Key: 9881E08E-8258-2A27-C2FA-59A771335D0F Hardware Model: MacBookPro18,3 Process: Emacs-arm64-11 [79012] Path: /Applications/Emacs29.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs-arm64-11 Report Version: 104 Code Type: ARM-64 (Native(?)) Role: Foreground Parent Process: launchd [1] Coalition: org.gnu.Emacs [2288] Date/Time: 2023-04-16 09:40:18.9434 +0300 Launch Time: 2023-04-16 09:40:13.1077 +0300 OS Version: macOS 13.3.1 (22E261) Release Type: User Baseband Version: Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x000000019d96d560 Triggered by Thread: 0 Thread 0 name: com.apple.main-thread Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x183034724 __pthread_kill + 8 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x18306bc28 pthread_kill + 288 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x182f4246c raise + 32 3 0x10039e67c terminate_due_to_signal + 208 4 0x10039ea28 emacs_abort + 20 5 0x100364620 ns_term_shutdown + 168 6 0x10022fa0c shut_down_emacs + 328 7 0x10039e644 terminate_due_to_signal + 152 8 0x100256588 handle_fatal_signal + 16 9 0x100256604 deliver_thread_signal + 124 10 0x100254774 deliver_fatal_thread_signal + 12 11 libsystem_platform.dylib 0x18309aa84 _sigtramp + 56 12 JavaScriptCore 0x19d96d314 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To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= <mardani29@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000006be4df05f96e6602" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62831 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:05:56 -0400 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000006be4df05f96e6602 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006be4dd05f96e6600" --0000000000006be4dd05f96e6600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable la 15. huhtik. 2023 klo 22.51 Daniel Mart=C3=ADn (mardani29@HIDDEN) kirjo= itti: > Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Unfortunately I am unable to run GDB, as it seems that GDB doesn't run = on > > aarch64. > > > > I tried to debug using LLDB, but since I have no experience with these > > things I was unable to do so. I can try to find some time to learn the > > process next week, but it might take a while, as I have never done any > > debugging before. Maybe someone with more experience has access to an > Apple > > silicon machine and can replicate the bug? > > If you open Console.app, you should see the Emacs crash there, under > Crash Reports. Could you upload the report to this bug thread? > > I will attach it to this email. I can't reproduce the issue, but I am on macOS 12, not macOS 13. Do you > reproduce the issue if you start Emacs from a terminal with "emacs -Q"? > > I ran "/Applications/Emacs29.app/Content/MacOS/Emacs -Q" and "/Applications/Emacs29.app/Content/MacOS/Emacs-arm64-11 -Q" and could not reproduce the bug, which is surprising as I thought that I had trier that before and thus thought the bug was not related to my dotfiles. Still, the same dotfiles do not result in this bug in my older version of Emacs. I can try to pinpont the part of my init.el that is causing this bug, but it will take a day or two. > > > ps. Maybe I should explain, that the three-finger tap is a macOS featur= e > > that can search for a dictionary definition, web search etc. on a > > highlighted word as well as display info about files in the file browse= r > > etc. I'm just explaining this as it is a os-specific utility that some > > people might not be aware of. I have no idea how it works "under the > hood". > > > > Is this the setting you can configure at System Preferences, Trackpad, > Point & Click, Look up & data detectors, Tap with three fingers? > Yes.With that setting off the bug does not happen. --0000000000006be4dd05f96e6600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:"times new roman",serif"><br></div></div><br><div class= =3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">la 15. huhtik. 2023 = klo 22.51 Daniel Mart=C3=ADn (<a href=3D"mailto:mardani29@HIDDEN">mardani= 29@HIDDEN</a>) kirjoitti:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl= e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid= ;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Sami Lahtinen <<a = href=3D"mailto:sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">sami.lahtinen@gma= il.com</a>> writes:<br> <br> > Unfortunately I am unable to run GDB, as it seems that GDB doesn't= run on<br> > aarch64.<br> ><br> > I tried to debug using LLDB, but since I have no experience with these= <br> > things I was unable to do so. I can try to find some time to learn the= <br> > process next week, but it might take a while, as I have never done any= <br> > debugging before. Maybe someone with more experience has access to an = Apple<br> > silicon machine and can replicate the bug?<br> <br> If you open Console.app, you should see the Emacs crash there, under<br> Crash Reports.=C2=A0 Could you upload the report to this bug thread?<br> <br></blockquote><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"ti= mes new roman",serif">I will attach it to this email.</div><div class= =3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"times new roman",serif">= <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8= ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,= 204,204);padding-left:1ex"> I can't reproduce the issue, but I am on macOS 12, not macOS 13.=C2=A0 = Do you<br> reproduce the issue if you start Emacs from a terminal with "emacs -Q&= quot;?<br> <br></blockquote><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&qu= ot;times new roman",serif">I ran "/Applications/Emacs29.app/Conte= nt/MacOS/Emacs -Q" and "/Applications/Emacs29.app/Content/MacOS/E= macs-arm64-11 -Q" and could not reproduce the bug, which is surprising= as I thought that I had trier that before and thus thought the bug was not= related to my dotfiles. Still, the same dotfiles do not result in this bug= in my older version of Emacs.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f= ont-family:"times new roman",serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail= _default" style=3D"font-family:"times new roman",serif">I can try= to pinpont=C2=A0the part of my init.el that is causing this bug, but it wi= ll take a day or two.</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-= style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> ><br> > ps. Maybe I should explain, that the three-finger tap is a macOS featu= re<br> > that can search for a dictionary definition, web search etc. on a<br> > highlighted word as well as display info about files in the file brows= er<br> > etc. I'm just explaining this as it is a os-specific utility that = some<br> > people might not be aware of. I have no idea how it works "under = the hood".<br> ><br> <br> Is this the setting you can configure at System Preferences, Trackpad,<br> Point & Click, Look up & data detectors, Tap with three fingers?<br= ></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam= ily:"times new roman",serif">Yes.With that setting off the bug do= es not happen.</div></div></div> --0000000000006be4dd05f96e6600-- --0000000000006be4df05f96e6602 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Emacs-arm64-11-2023-04-16-094019.ips" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Emacs-arm64-11-2023-04-16-094019.ips" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <f_lgj1g6as0> X-Attachment-Id: f_lgj1g6as0 eyJhcHBfbmFtZSI6IkVtYWNzLWFybTY0LTExIiwidGltZXN0YW1wIjoiMjAyMy0wNC0xNiAwOTo0 MDoxOS4wMCArMDMwMCIsImFwcF92ZXJzaW9uIjoiIiwic2xpY2VfdXVpZCI6IjAwMDAwMDAwLTAw MDAtMDAwMC0wMDAwLTAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMCIsImJ1aWxkX3ZlcnNpb24iOiIiLCJwbGF0Zm9ybSI6 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 06775fa7bb868ff93883f004e4f696bf; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:51:01 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= <mardani29@HIDDEN> To: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#62831: 29.0.90; Emacs-pretest-29.0.90 aarch64 on macOS crashes when receiving a three-finger tap. References: <A3D4BCBB-847D-44D4-8B72-249A46030B4F@HIDDEN> <83leiufy57.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAK_WPLuPi14nG9QB5z8J6guEwvx+ZGhoEws2rAUG7AKWYhitdw@HIDDEN> <83h6tifuhy.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAK_WPLuFrj5KLLwovaewo9Ue566gh7W=yYjx3-SbW-KuqQmt1w@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 21:50:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <CAK_WPLuFrj5KLLwovaewo9Ue566gh7W=yYjx3-SbW-KuqQmt1w@HIDDEN> (Sami Lahtinen's message of "Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:49:02 +0300") Message-ID: <m18resvs9o.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1271 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62831 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> writes: > Unfortunately I am unable to run GDB, as it seems that GDB doesn't run on > aarch64. > > I tried to debug using LLDB, but since I have no experience with these > things I was unable to do so. I can try to find some time to learn the > process next week, but it might take a while, as I have never done any > debugging before. Maybe someone with more experience has access to an Apple > silicon machine and can replicate the bug? If you open Console.app, you should see the Emacs crash there, under Crash Reports. Could you upload the report to this bug thread? I can't reproduce the issue, but I am on macOS 12, not macOS 13. Do you reproduce the issue if you start Emacs from a terminal with "emacs -Q"? > > ps. Maybe I should explain, that the three-finger tap is a macOS feature > that can search for a dictionary definition, web search etc. on a > highlighted word as well as display info about files in the file browser > etc. I'm just explaining this as it is a os-specific utility that some > people might not be aware of. I have no idea how it works "under the hood". > Is this the setting you can configure at System Preferences, Trackpad, Point & Click, Look up & data detectors, Tap with three fingers?
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Full text available.Received: (at 62831) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2023 18:30:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 15 14:30:25 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50109 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pnkfI-00014o-GW for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 14:30:24 -0400 Received: from mail-ua1-f44.google.com ([209.85.222.44]:36537) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN>) id 1pnj5T-0006N0-1g for 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:49:19 -0400 Received: by mail-ua1-f44.google.com with SMTP id y21so4941129ual.3 for <62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 09:49:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681577353; x=1684169353; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=e0810vVHnPSNG6avk8/DahV5bEfeVzb3FE54cWmNiyI=; b=nDNhPs6sNDuhVMgg08vY+Atnsj4Td+1lcpBbD+9sehfAh+dvCGG+eTWfLAb1QgtQda 6e5GHEKJPrromDyLdIwlU0/1WSHQFALtYfKtq1kM0YkQ3MP4BNylxNO4gAWwuKikrggk Qm6Ebj2RsNAeIm4Gg8IBgeWXGOU3mjOtYp7awhEVS2oOjmRxqOCpdUsn9AaOADlIyAmq YXueDR5byqG9RrexQHIw0C1iQrG8BI6dn8UtR6TyHM7ee8YTEjD3yx5rkfQm5c5AQjKL oL7grT7yMc5YZFWX4eucCxpmkKWuDnuwZVtpIRTCOpv2lPR2ix0eF91+VmxiBd90Rpeo 5WQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681577353; x=1684169353; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=e0810vVHnPSNG6avk8/DahV5bEfeVzb3FE54cWmNiyI=; b=f/Stj0wRE9qsMiHB4e6/X4o1icYykrE6EDBykDw5S+9I6+cvMQgekPvLgcDkOB3FrE k3ngH04chsPK+z4yANRdsUzb1Kvt92z2ydJVOFnkKhAaF6pKJQecdcbtZXAOrIDLHGRK /GnoTzIgMkNLjZ4vhzyFTt36B9OafPHD+nz7F6mNJTFS0Qyr7KXO8BXFgLaWj8s3S/0w 6DhTOhB+8dZW+9kUyd2AEY3tIb84sf4Ed5rrPKVftqD/GzGuiVPAb10APDwMFvyi32gc F8ZVVK6wYNiz3qs5oweeuzRiz2sLbmDJQXRaz3R2XgqO4GYp89upGBvQUJYa1kVF2i3S ZAYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9deTkeVa6A+o81aXnzwo0e1TaiknamBynKUpE8buB1BCFFlemUr 5rjyO1GhOUH2koSpjHy7e48ZFwhjh/ZrbJ8T57s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350buSzUyLNpWqNYENxgPW+gbGPdFaT8TRTwrVjjpLDiwcc7mw4Ox8kZDPfbaPHG4KzNKpIAvOjNtkiosGJ9SsLU= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:5b07:0:b0:68b:94c5:7683 with SMTP id u7-20020ab05b07000000b0068b94c57683mr5275011uae.0.1681577353250; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 09:49:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <A3D4BCBB-847D-44D4-8B72-249A46030B4F@HIDDEN> <83leiufy57.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAK_WPLuPi14nG9QB5z8J6guEwvx+ZGhoEws2rAUG7AKWYhitdw@HIDDEN> <83h6tifuhy.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83h6tifuhy.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:49:02 +0300 Message-ID: <CAK_WPLuFrj5KLLwovaewo9Ue566gh7W=yYjx3-SbW-KuqQmt1w@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#62831: 29.0.90; Emacs-pretest-29.0.90 aarch64 on macOS crashes when receiving a three-finger tap. To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cd8c2405f962bccb" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62831 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 14:30:20 -0400 Cc: 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000cd8c2405f962bccb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Unfortunately I am unable to run GDB, as it seems that GDB doesn't run on aarch64. I tried to debug using LLDB, but since I have no experience with these things I was unable to do so. I can try to find some time to learn the process next week, but it might take a while, as I have never done any debugging before. Maybe someone with more experience has access to an Apple silicon machine and can replicate the bug? ps. Maybe I should explain, that the three-finger tap is a macOS feature that can search for a dictionary definition, web search etc. on a highlighted word as well as display info about files in the file browser etc. I'm just explaining this as it is a os-specific utility that some people might not be aware of. I have no idea how it works "under the hood". pe 14. huhtik. 2023 klo 16.44 Eli Zaretskii (eliz@HIDDEN) kirjoitti: > > From: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> > > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:46:28 +0300 > > > > I will attach an .ips file from ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ I hope > this is what you are looking for, > > if not, can you please specify? > > I meant the backtrace reported by a debugger. Run Emacs under a > debugger, either GDB (preferred) or LLDB, and when Emacs crashes > produce the backtrace and post it. In GDB, the command to display a > backtrace is "backtrace", or "bt" in short. I don't know what is the > command in LLDB, sorry. > > > My Emacs is the binary from emacsformacosx.com as-is. As far as I know, > it is compiled without > > changes. > > Does that site say anywhere if there are some changes? > --000000000000cd8c2405f962bccb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:times ne= w roman,serif">Unfortunately I am unable to run GDB, as it seems that GDB d= oesn't run on aarch64.<br><br>I tried to debug using LLDB, but since I = have no experience with these things I was unable to do so. I can try to fi= nd some time to learn the process next week, but it might take a while, as = I have never done any debugging before. Maybe someone with more experience = has access to an Apple silicon machine and can replicate the bug?<br><br>ps= . Maybe I should explain, that the three-finger tap is a macOS feature that= can search for a dictionary definition, web search etc. on a highlighted w= ord as well as display info about files in the file browser etc. I'm ju= st explaining this as it is a os-specific utility that some people might no= t be aware of. I have no idea how it works "under the hood".</div= ></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"= >pe 14. huhtik. 2023 klo 16.44 Eli Zaretskii (<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN= g">eliz@HIDDEN</a>) kirjoitti:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:s= olid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: Sami L= ahtinen <<a href=3D"mailto:sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">sa= mi.lahtinen@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:46:28 +0300<br> > <br> > I will attach an .ips file from ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ I ho= pe this is what you are looking for,<br> > if not, can you please specify?<br> <br> I meant the backtrace reported by a debugger.=C2=A0 Run Emacs under a<br> debugger, either GDB (preferred) or LLDB, and when Emacs crashes<br> produce the backtrace and post it.=C2=A0 In GDB, the command to display a<b= r> backtrace is "backtrace", or "bt" in short.=C2=A0 I don= 't know what is the<br> command in LLDB, sorry.<br> <br> > My Emacs is the binary from <a href=3D"http://emacsformacosx.com" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">emacsformacosx.com</a> as-is. As far as I= know, it is compiled without<br> > changes.<br> <br> Does that site say anywhere if there are some changes?<br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000cd8c2405f962bccb--
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Full text available.Received: (at 62831) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2023 14:07:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 14 10:07:32 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pnK5M-0004YD-3G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:07:32 -0400 Received: from netyu.xyz ([152.44.41.246]:58440 helo=mail.netyu.xyz) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ruijie@HIDDEN>) id 1pnK5K-0004Y5-BN for 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:07:30 -0400 Received: from smtpclient.apple (<unknown> [112.97.49.52]) by netyu.xyz (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 23f8d43d (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 14 Apr 2023 14:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-55D2F5E6-E69E-421A-BCD2-BE0D1FB7E457 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ruijie Yu <ruijie@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#62831: 29.0.90; Emacs-pretest-29.0.90 aarch64 on macOS crashes when receiving a three-finger tap. Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 22:06:43 +0800 Message-Id: <D4C4583D-4074-4E48-926D-7AF5D3E55ED1@HIDDEN> References: <83h6tifuhy.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83h6tifuhy.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20D67) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 62831 Cc: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN>, 62831 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --Apple-Mail-55D2F5E6-E69E-421A-BCD2-BE0D1FB7E457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Apr 14, 2023, at 21:46, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> From: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN> >> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:46:28 +0300 >=20 > [=E2=80=A6] >=20 >> My Emacs is the binary from emacsformacosx.com as-is. As far as I know, i= t is compiled without >> changes. >=20 > Does that site say anywhere if there are some changes? According to https://emacsformacosx.com/about, there are no changes from ema= cs.git.=20 -- Best, RY --Apple-Mail-55D2F5E6-E69E-421A-BCD2-BE0D1FB7E457 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D= utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"ci= te">On Apr 14, 2023, at 21:46, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:<br>= <br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<= blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>From: Sami Lahtinen <sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN= om></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: Fri, 14 A= pr 2023 15:46:28 +0300</span></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><blockquot= e type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite">[=E2=80= =A6]</blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquot= e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span></bl= ockquote><span></span><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>My Emacs is the binary= from emacsformacosx.com as-is. As far as I know, it is compiled without</sp= an><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>changes.</span><br></blo= ckquote><span></span><br><span>Does that site say anywhere if there are some= changes?</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>According to <a h= ref=3D"https://emacsformacosx.com/about">https://emacsformacosx.com/about</a= >, there are no changes from emacs.git. <br><br><div>--</div><div>Best,= </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>RY</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><= div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div></blockquote></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-55D2F5E6-E69E-421A-BCD2-BE0D1FB7E457--
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Message-Id: <A3D4BCBB-847D-44D4-8B72-249A46030B4F@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 11:16:13 +0300 To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.500.231) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::134; envelope-from=sami.lahtinen@HIDDEN; helo=mail-lf1-x134.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:55:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) A three-finger tap in any Emacs frame crashes Emacs. I use the pretest version from https://emacsformacosx.com on a M1 MacBook Pro. In GNU Emacs 29.0.90 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin21.6.0, NS appkit-2113.60 Version 12.6.1 (Build 21G217)) of 2023-04-11 built on builder-m1-12.lan Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299 System Description: macOS 13.3.1 Configured using: 'configure --with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/Application Support/Emacs/site-lisp' --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=3Dno' Configured features: ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER ZLIB Important settings: locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Dashboard Minor modes in effect: which-key-mode: t global-sl-mode: t nyan-mode: t minions-mode: t recentf-mode: t page-break-lines-mode: t global-git-commit-mode: t magit-auto-revert-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t ivy-prescient-mode: t counsel-mode: t ivy-rich-mode: t ivy-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t 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