GNU bug report logs - #62975
29.0.90; Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:42:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 29.0.90

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From: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.90; Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:41:24 -0700
Hello,

I noticed after upgrading to 29.0.90 that Emacs felt very sluggish. I was able
to track this down to slow forking behavior, such as what happened in Emacs 26
days. As an example, I started with emacs -Q and then loaded magit and used it
to check for changes in one of my local repositories. These are the timings
for just hitting 'g':

   28.2            Refreshing magit...done (0.298s, cached 11/25 (44%))
   28.2-Macport    Refreshing magit...done (0.140s, cached 6/16 (38%))
   29.0.90         Refreshing magit...done (1.495s, cached 11/25 (44%))

As you can see, with identical configuration (-Q) and the same Git project,
refreshing takes 7 times longer with Emacs 29 than it did with Emacs 28.

I also use the cpu+mem profiler, but all it told me was that Magit was slow,
due to every one of its component refresh functions being slower.

I have no better data to offer, sorry, but just wanted to bring this up in
case others haven't noticed it yet. This is likely to be perceived as a pretty
bad performance regression on macOS.

I used almost the same Nix recipe to build emacs28 and emacs29:

emacs29 = with pkgs; (self.emacs28.override { srcRepo = true; }).overrideAttrs(attrs: rec {
  name = "emacs-${version}${versionModifier}";
  version = "29.0";
  versionModifier = ".90";
  src = ~/src/emacs;
  patches = [
    ./emacs/clean-env.patch
  ];
  propagatedBuildInputs = (attrs.propagatedBuildInputs or []) ++
    [ libgccjit
    ];
  buildInputs = attrs.buildInputs ++
    [ libpng
      libjpeg
      libungif
      libtiff
      librsvg
      jansson
      freetype
      harfbuzz.dev
      git
    ];
  preConfigure = ''
    sed -i -e 's/headerpad_extra=1000/headerpad_extra=2000/' configure.ac
    autoreconf
  '';
  # configureFlags = attrs.configureFlags ++
  #   [ "--enable-checking=yes,glyphs"
  #     "--enable-check-lisp-object-type"
  #   ];
});

John


In GNU Emacs 29.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0, NS appkit-2299.50
Version 13.3.1 (Build 22E261))
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299
System Description:  macOS 13.3.1

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/nix/store/53j3ljmy68qrkvywknb299zwgqiswk8i-emacs-29.0.90
 --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-ns --disable-ns-self-contained
 --with-native-compilation'

Configured features:
ACL GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE NS
PDUMPER PNG RSVG THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $EMACSLOADPATH:
  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: /nix/store/1y1hgaj43s4lg3ds7by43khq7aca3fs7-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/native-lisp::
  value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Group

Minor modes in effect:
  corfu-popupinfo-mode: t
  gnus-topic-mode: t
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  super-save-mode: t
  shackle-mode: t
  selected-global-mode: t
  selected-minor-mode: t
  save-place-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  repeat-mode: t
  recentf-mode: t
  persistent-scratch-autosave-mode: t
  midnight-mode: t
  auto-image-file-mode: t
  engine-mode: t
  global-edit-server-edit-mode: t
  global-auto-revert-mode: t
  override-global-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
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  auto-composition-mode: t
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John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62975; Package emacs. (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:59:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62975: 29.0.90;
 Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 21:58:09 +0300
> From: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:41:24 -0700
> 
> I noticed after upgrading to 29.0.90 that Emacs felt very sluggish. I was able
> to track this down to slow forking behavior, such as what happened in Emacs 26
> days. As an example, I started with emacs -Q and then loaded magit and used it
> to check for changes in one of my local repositories. These are the timings
> for just hitting 'g':
> 
>    28.2            Refreshing magit...done (0.298s, cached 11/25 (44%))
>    28.2-Macport    Refreshing magit...done (0.140s, cached 6/16 (38%))
>    29.0.90         Refreshing magit...done (1.495s, cached 11/25 (44%))
> 
> As you can see, with identical configuration (-Q) and the same Git project,
> refreshing takes 7 times longer with Emacs 29 than it did with Emacs 28.

Thanks.

Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
in performance relative to Emacs 28?




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62975; Package emacs. (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:07:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "M. Ian Graham" <hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, John Wiegley <johnw <at> gnu.org>,
 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62975: 29.0.90;
 Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:06:17 +0000
> Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
> in performance relative to Emacs 28?

I've observed the same general trend at the same general time but had trouble getting a clear handle on the difference.

Vague personal observations: I've noticed slowdown on macos (x86) but not linux in recent months, but in addition to moving emacs versions from v28 to master to v29 I've also changed installation methods from homebrew to nix+home-manager so that's a massive confounder.

Large loads of things like my org config, elfeed or magit seem sluggish now (often multiple seconds) where they were snappy before (sub-second), and my impression has been that either forking or I/O is much slower but I haven't done much narrowing. I'm unsure at present whether my own observations are due to emacs versions or nix/build/installation differences.

On magit specifically, I've followed the magit manual's advice re: the magit executable affecting perf (https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html) but not seen significant changes there.

I just attempted to reproduce some difference via emacs -Q and a simple recipe, but haven't easily been able to see a signal. Below are my results for v28 vs v29, both installed via nix. I'm also slowly trying other installation methods with the same recipe to see if anything jumps out.

So far, v28 feels plenty slow too.

John: Any advice on recipe or setting changes that might get me closer to your results, or should I be seeing something as is? 

Cheers,
Ian


--- Timing summary ---

Emacs 28: Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.880s)
Emacs 29: Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.910s)

--- Recipe for emacs -Q ---

(require 'magit)
(message (emacs-version))
(magit-toggle-verbose-refresh)
(magit-status "~/git/emacs") ;; clean savannah master
(switch-to-buffer "*Messages*")

--- Nix setup ---

# using emacs-overlay to preinstall all packages
pkgs.emacsWithPackagesFromUsePackage {
  config = "";
  package = pkgs.emacs; # v28
  # package = pkgs.emacsUnstable; # v29
  alwaysEnsure = true;
  extraEmacsPackages = epkgs: with epkgs; [
    magit
    # snip. 100 or so other packages in here
  ];
}

--- Begin Emacs 28 details ---

Installation: nixpkgs 22.11, using pkgs.emacs

GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0, NS appkit-2299.50 Version 13.3 (Build 22E252))
Enabled verbose refreshing
Please type y, n, ! or i, or C-v/M-v to scroll: n [2 times]
Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...
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Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.880s)

-- magit-debug-git-executable --

magit-remote-git-executable: "git"
magit-git-executable: "/Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin/git" (2.38.4)
exec-path: ("/Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin" "/nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin" "/Users/ian/.bin" "/usr/local/bin" "/System/Cryptexes/App/usr/bin" "/usr/bin" "/bin" "/usr/sbin" "/sbin" "/Library/Apple/usr/bin" "/nix/store/yf6bx17rwyhr56x6q0alzvmm9jjbq06x-emacs-28.2/libexec/emacs/28.2/x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0")
  /Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin (/nix/store/1p9130djcdq91cj685kn8qpmg9kj05ap-home-manager-path/bin)
    /Users/ian/.nix-profile/bin/git (2.38.4)
  /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin (/nix/store/1l14si31p4aw7c1gwgjy0nq55k38j9nj-nix-2.13.2/bin)
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  /usr/bin (t)
    /usr/bin/git (2.38.4)
  /bin (t)
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-- report-emacs-bug --

In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0, NS appkit-2299.50 Version 13.3 (Build 22E252))
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299
System Description:  macOS 13.2.1

Configured using:
 'configure
 --prefix=/nix/store/yf6bx17rwyhr56x6q0alzvmm9jjbq06x-emacs-28.2
 --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-ns
 --disable-ns-self-contained --with-native-compilation'

Configured features:
ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE
NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS ZLIB

Important settings:
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  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: /nix/store/4zv83fg4mphqwz3dy6cv9g6a56sas7b2-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/native-lisp::
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
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Major mode: Messages

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--- Begin Emacs 29 details ---

Installation: nixpkgs 22.11, using pkgs.emacsUnstable from emacs-overlay

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-- magit-debug-git-executable --

magit-remote-git-executable: "git"
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-- report-emacs-bug --

In GNU Emacs 29.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.3.0, NS
appkit-2299.40 Version 13.2.1 (Build 22D68))
Repository revision: emacs-29.0.90
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299
System Description:  macOS 13.2.1

Configured using:
 'configure
 --prefix=/nix/store/l8a332qfbw460gb6y99dr4jqz2byvhqi-emacs-unstable-29.0.90
 --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-ns
 --disable-ns-self-contained --with-native-compilation'

Configured features:
ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE
NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER
WEBP ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $EMACSLOADPATH: /nix/store/8ismrw26gzya4rxap3qnnvd45hj5ykvq-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/site-lisp:
  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: /nix/store/8ismrw26gzya4rxap3qnnvd45hj5ykvq-emacs-packages-deps/share/emacs/native-lisp::
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Messages

Minor modes in effect:
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  magit-auto-revert-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: (only . t)
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

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Memory information:
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------- Original Message -------
On Friday, April 21st, 2023 at 03:58, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:


> 
> 
> > From: "John Wiegley" johnw <at> gnu.org
> 
> > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:41:24 -0700
> > 
> > I noticed after upgrading to 29.0.90 that Emacs felt very sluggish. I was able
> > to track this down to slow forking behavior, such as what happened in Emacs 26
> > days. As an example, I started with emacs -Q and then loaded magit and used it
> > to check for changes in one of my local repositories. These are the timings
> > for just hitting 'g':
> > 
> > 28.2 Refreshing magit...done (0.298s, cached 11/25 (44%))
> > 28.2-Macport Refreshing magit...done (0.140s, cached 6/16 (38%))
> > 29.0.90 Refreshing magit...done (1.495s, cached 11/25 (44%))
> > 
> > As you can see, with identical configuration (-Q) and the same Git project,
> > refreshing takes 7 times longer with Emacs 29 than it did with Emacs 28.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
> in performance relative to Emacs 28?
>




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bug#62975; Package emacs. (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:54:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #14 received at 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: "M. Ian Graham" <hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com>
Cc: johnw <at> gnu.org, 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62975: 29.0.90;
 Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:53:17 +0300
> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:06:17 +0000
> From: "M. Ian Graham" <hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com>
> 
> > Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
> > in performance relative to Emacs 28?
> 
> I've observed the same general trend at the same general time but had trouble getting a clear handle on the difference.
> 
> Vague personal observations: I've noticed slowdown on macos (x86) but not linux in recent months, but in addition to moving emacs versions from v28 to master to v29 I've also changed installation methods from homebrew to nix+home-manager so that's a massive confounder.
> 
> Large loads of things like my org config, elfeed or magit seem sluggish now (often multiple seconds) where they were snappy before (sub-second), and my impression has been that either forking or I/O is much slower but I haven't done much narrowing. I'm unsure at present whether my own observations are due to emacs versions or nix/build/installation differences.
> 
> On magit specifically, I've followed the magit manual's advice re: the magit executable affecting perf (https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html) but not seen significant changes there.
> 
> I just attempted to reproduce some difference via emacs -Q and a simple recipe, but haven't easily been able to see a signal. Below are my results for v28 vs v29, both installed via nix. I'm also slowly trying other installation methods with the same recipe to see if anything jumps out.
> 
> So far, v28 feels plenty slow too.

Thanks.

To be useful, these observations should include invocation of other
programs, not just of Git.




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bug#62975; Package emacs. (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 09:01:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "M. Ian Graham" <hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, johnw <at> gnu.org
Cc: 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62975: 29.0.90;
 Forking processes on macOS has become very slow in Emacs 29
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 08:59:54 +0000
(Sorry for the no-wrap in my previous message. I'm a mailing list idiot
and trying to be better starting with this one.)

> To be useful, these observations should include invocation of other
> programs, not just of Git.

Here's a recipe spitball:

---
(message (emacs-version))
(let ((start-time (current-time)))
  (dotimes (n 100)
    (call-process "ls")
    (call-process "date")
    (call-process "echo" nil nil nil "foo")
    (call-process "gcc" nil nil nil "--version"))
  (message "time spent: %dms"
           (round (* 1000.0 (float-time (time-subtract (current-time) start-time))))))
---

emacs -Q --script recipe.el results against the same nix-built versions
as my previous message:

---
GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.4.0, NS appkit-2299.50 Version 13.3 (Build 22E252))
time spent: 4809ms

GNU Emacs 29.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.3.0, NS appkit-2299.40 Version 13.2.1 (Build 22D68))
time spent: 4626ms
---

Variation between runs looks like +=200ms or so, so they're within noise
levels of each other.

The same recipe against homebrew-installed emacs-plus <at> 28:

---
GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin22.3.0, NS appkit-2299.40 Version 13.2.1 (Build 22D68)) of 2023-04-22
time spent: 4237ms
---

This one seems to be consistently faster, roughly a 10% time difference
between homebrew and nix installs. But I'm not yet seeing anything near
John's 7x difference. Good chance I'm not looking in the right place.

Would appreciate any concrete suggestions for recipe changes.

Thanks,
Ian


------- Original Message -------
On Saturday, April 22nd, 2023 at 16:53, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:


> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:06:17 +0000
> 
> > From: "M. Ian Graham" hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com
> > 
> > > Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
> > > in performance relative to Emacs 28?
> > 
> > I've observed the same general trend at the same general time but had trouble getting a clear handle on the difference.
> > 
> > Vague personal observations: I've noticed slowdown on macos (x86) but not linux in recent months, but in addition to moving emacs versions from v28 to master to v29 I've also changed installation methods from homebrew to nix+home-manager so that's a massive confounder.
> > 
> > Large loads of things like my org config, elfeed or magit seem sluggish now (often multiple seconds) where they were snappy before (sub-second), and my impression has been that either forking or I/O is much slower but I haven't done much narrowing. I'm unsure at present whether my own observations are due to emacs versions or nix/build/installation differences.
> > 
> > On magit specifically, I've followed the magit manual's advice re: the magit executable affecting perf (https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html) but not seen significant changes there.
> > 
> > I just attempted to reproduce some difference via emacs -Q and a simple recipe, but haven't easily been able to see a signal. Below are my results for v28 vs v29, both installed via nix. I'm also slowly trying other installation methods with the same recipe to see if anything jumps out.
> > 
> > So far, v28 feels plenty slow too.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> To be useful, these observations should include invocation of other
> programs, not just of Git.
>




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#62975; Package emacs. (Tue, 25 Apr 2023 16:00:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #20 received at 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
To: "M. Ian Graham" <hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, John Wiegley <johnw <at> gnu.org>,
 62975 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62975: 29.0.90; Forking processes on macOS has become very
 slow in Emacs 29
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 17:59:19 +0200
"M. Ian Graham" <hello+emacs <at> miangraham.com> writes:

>> Can someone else who uses Emacs 29 on macOS reproduce this regression
>> in performance relative to Emacs 28?
>
> I've observed the same general trend at the same general time but had trouble getting a clear handle on the difference.
>
> Vague personal observations: I've noticed slowdown on macos (x86) but not linux in recent months, but in addition to moving emacs versions from v28 to master to v29 I've also changed installation methods from homebrew to nix+home-manager so that's a massive confounder.
>
> Large loads of things like my org config, elfeed or magit seem sluggish now (often multiple seconds) where they were snappy before (sub-second), and my impression has been that either forking or I/O is much slower but I haven't done much narrowing. I'm unsure at present whether my own observations are due to emacs versions or nix/build/installation differences.
>
> On magit specifically, I've followed the magit manual's advice re: the magit executable affecting perf (https://magit.vc/manual/magit/MacOS-Performance.html) but not seen significant changes there.
>
> I just attempted to reproduce some difference via emacs -Q and a simple recipe, but haven't easily been able to see a signal. Below are my results for v28 vs v29, both installed via nix. I'm also slowly trying other installation methods with the same recipe to see if anything jumps out.
>
> So far, v28 feels plenty slow too.
>
> John: Any advice on recipe or setting changes that might get me closer to your results, or should I be seeing something as is? 
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
>
> --- Timing summary ---
>
> Emacs 28: Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.880s)
> Emacs 29: Refreshing buffer ‘magit: emacs’...done (1.910s)
>

These results are pretty much similar.  If the performance degradation
is something you notice but can't reproduce in a benchmark, I'd
recommend using the macOS Instruments tool to capture a performance
trace of Emacs 28 vs 29, while doing the same operations (magit or
elfeed refresh, for example).

A performance trace from Instruments would help us assess, at the OS and
C level, if the slowdown you perceive is real, and where the bottleneck
may be.

Let me know if you are not very familiar with Instruments and I'll
instruct you how to capture a performance trace of Emacs with it.




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Message #23 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62975: 29.0.90; Forking processes on macOS has become very
 slow in Emacs 29
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:54:12 +0100
Check you have

    #define HAVE_POSIX_SPAWN 1

defined in config.h.

There's a much larger set of requirements to use posix_spawn at the top
of callproc.c, but I don't understand them.

If, for some reason, your system isn't using posix_spawn then it will be
using fork (Apple removed vfork) and yes, it will be as slow as Emacs 26.
-- 
Alan Third




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