Received: (at 63050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2023 13:10:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 24 09:10:24 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1q1oG0-0006vs-9x for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2023 09:10:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1q1oFy-0006vb-JT for 63050 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 May 2023 09:10:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1q1oFs-0004Ti-Jo; Wed, 24 May 2023 09:10:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=gbJKsh2UrQNG09GF9J14gol1lmH+YjIXg//v59aBQdY=; b=BZurI9w4u48V8L+KgkA5 XknbeIVz7KbqVmOK992uZx7X3ssZ/dclPwr+4IwZafKhd0II8jWrkTQ210R/RlQvCUZsDDVNawy1K yPcXySF1EOqjGfsA7kGlSzeBsrWXEJlPmADJDJJwz77dbjDblIx8IQ3lcMFm6dQxofd7oT5FJHvcd tLROCY5SqXe4Tahri3cukp5+7Gkg4TQbxHueaNt0avfpA5gRekJtlo/82WFpzZVPmf4CBBh0wYKHZ CYTgYnXoyCfDjuzzgEIpF9m/RttGLv4ATY0NZ5swyI29WV7nqOaIbHVzP9Yd+qMRbpgzZeVGzbUUs afTpEwVLFqP0vQ==; Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201] helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1q1oFp-0007dQ-2h; Wed, 24 May 2023 09:10:16 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#63050: "guix pull" requires graphical libraries References: <ZEZWS/h9xa/ZX3/E@jurong> <875y9jzl9m.fsf@HIDDEN> <874jot19fd.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <87fs7rvv5s.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <ZGj3hGKGwu3mQklT@jurong> Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 15:10:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <ZGj3hGKGwu3mQklT@jurong> (Andreas Enge's message of "Sat, 20 May 2023 18:38:28 +0200") Message-ID: <878rddooy4.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63050 Cc: 63050 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN> skribis: > Am Sat, May 20, 2023 at 06:12:47PM +0200 schrieb Ludovic Court=C3=A8s: >> > The closure size reduction is substantial: >> > $ ./pre-inst-env guix size graphviz | tail -1 >> > total: 183.6 MiB >> > $ guix size graphviz | tail -1 >> > total: 242.3 MiB >> > But I suspect we=E2=80=99d still need the full-blown variant for thing= s like >> > xdot. >> Here=E2=80=99s a proposal: >> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/63610 > > Typo? The issue is not found. Typo on your side then? :-) > Note that I do not care so much about the closure size, but about the > number of packages that are needed to just build guix (although of course > the two are related). Or otherwise said, the dependencies for "guix pull". Yes, understood. Graphviz is not in the closure anyway, it=E2=80=99s a build-only dependency. With commit 9fa92acbf0c4dbc734ac7d83b31bd6d12e09a401 this is mostly fixed. There=E2=80=99s still another path leading to libx11 though: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ ./pre-inst-env guix graph --path guix libx11 guix@HIDDEN guile-avahi@HIDDEN avahi@HIDDEN dbus@HIDDEN libx11@HIDDEN --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- (The same applies to =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80=9D.) Not sure what can be done about it. Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Hi!
Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> skribis:
> We can get an X11-free Graphviz like so:
>
> diff --git a/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm b/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm
> index 26ee96afd4..3a5d33e662 100644
> --- a/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm
> +++ b/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm
> @@ -94,16 +94,12 @@ (define-public graphviz
> (string-append extdir
> "/libgv_guile.so"))))))=
))
> (inputs
> - (list libxrender
> - libx11
> - gts
> + (list gts
> gd
> guile-3.0 ;Guile bindings
> - pango
> fontconfig
> freetype
> libltdl
> - libxaw
> expat
> libjpeg-turbo
> libpng))
>
>
> The closure size reduction is substantial:
>
> $ ./pre-inst-env guix size graphviz | tail -1
> total: 183.6 MiB
> $ guix size graphviz | tail -1
> total: 242.3 MiB
>
> But I suspect we=E2=80=99d still need the full-blown variant for things l=
ike
> xdot.
Here=E2=80=99s a proposal:
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/63610
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#63050; Package guix.
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#63050; Package guix.
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#63050; Package guix.
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Hi,
On Wed, 03 May 2023 at 21:33, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> Why does Guix require =E2=80=99graphviz=E2=80=99 in the first place?
>
> It uses it to build images in the manual.
Ah. So we are dragging X11 libraries as libx11 for one or two figures
in the manual. :-)
Although that=E2=80=99s not exactly the same as =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80=9D,
guix graph guix -t bag-emerged
gives an idea. Well, for example, there is a path from guix to ninja
via graphviz.
While I understand that the documentation is important, could we skip it
for some architectures?
Cheers,
simon
$ guix graph guix -t bag-emerged | grep label | cut -f2 -d'=3D' | cut -f1 -=
d',' | sort
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Subject: Reducing the closure size of Graphviz
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Hey!
Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> skribis:
> This is apparently coming from Graphviz:
>
> $ guix graph --path guix libx11
> guix@HIDDEN
> graphviz@HIDDEN
> libx11@HIDDEN
> $ guix graph --path guix libxt
> guix@HIDDEN
> graphviz@HIDDEN
> libxaw@HIDDEN
> libxt@HIDDEN
>
> Surprising to me, but apparently it=E2=80=99s been this way from the star=
t,
> commit b1b07d72c755ea314fb0c8333cd88293ee504ce4 (2013!).
>
> Maybe these are optional dependencies?
All the X libraries can be seen in the output of:
ldd $(guix build graphviz |grep -v 'doc$')/lib/graphviz/libgvplugin_xlib.=
so
I haven=E2=80=99t checked but I suppose that=E2=80=99s used by =E2=80=98xdo=
t=E2=80=99.
We can get an X11-free Graphviz like so:
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diff --git a/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm b/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm
index 26ee96afd4..3a5d33e662 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/graphviz.scm
@@ -94,16 +94,12 @@ (define-public graphviz
(string-append extdir
"/libgv_guile.so"))))))))
(inputs
- (list libxrender
- libx11
- gts
+ (list gts
gd
guile-3.0 ;Guile bindings
- pango
fontconfig
freetype
libltdl
- libxaw
expat
libjpeg-turbo
libpng))
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The closure size reduction is substantial:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ ./pre-inst-env guix size graphviz | tail -1
total: 183.6 MiB
$ guix size graphviz | tail -1
total: 242.3 MiB
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
But I suspect we=E2=80=99d still need the full-blown variant for things like
xdot.
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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[85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id tl18-20020a170907c31200b0095ed3befbedsm1670932ejc.54.2023.04.26.12.34.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <22bc26fad9923242bf3296b5ff9d32e2ba9a1ea3.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#63050: "guix pull" requires graphical libraries From: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN> To: Josselin Poiret <dev@HIDDEN>, Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 21:34:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87jzxyh4hs.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <ZEZWS/h9xa/ZX3/E@jurong> <875y9jzl9m.fsf@HIDDEN> <ZEjSp8HrY6SyndaH@jurong> <87mt2vc9qp.fsf@HIDDEN> <e97944559fd9661c56dd88131cbd49c5ec8228ec.camel@HIDDEN> <ZElee8kEs8ReZbDv@jurong> <87jzxyh4hs.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63050 Cc: Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, 63050 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Am Mittwoch, dem 26.04.2023 um 20:39 +0200 schrieb Josselin Poiret: > Hi Andreas, >=20 > Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > Am Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 06:59:44PM +0200 schrieb Liliana Marie > > Prikler: > > > Having built glib from scratch more often than is fun, I am quite > > > certain that the package pulling in our graphics stack is texinfo > > > with > > > its reference to texlive. > >=20 > > where do you see this? > > $ guix gc --references `guix build texinfo` >=20 > This would check the store path's references, but not necessarily all > of its inputs!=C2=A0 I would hope that no package with docs ever keeps > references to texlive. It does turn out there's no `guix graph texinfo --path-to texlive' either, though, so I was actually mistaken. Sorry for the noise
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Hi Andreas,
Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN> writes:
> So "guix pull" builds what is defined as the guix package, but with the
> current checkout as source?
No, guix pull uses (guix self), and the dependencies there are not used
in a singular place like (inputs ...) or (native-inputs ...), but are
peppered throughout the file. However, it uses a reduced dictionary for
specification->package to speed it up, and so gives a pretty good idea
of what's used:
=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(("guile" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-3.0-latest))
("guile-avahi" . ,(ref 'guile-xyz 'guile-avahi))
("guile-json" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-json-4))
("guile-ssh" . ,(ref 'ssh 'guile-ssh))
("guile-git" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-git))
("guile-semver" . ,(ref 'guile-xyz 'guile-semver))
("guile-lib" . ,(ref 'guile-xyz 'guile-lib))
("guile-sqlite3" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-sqlite3))
("guile-zlib" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-zlib))
("guile-lzlib" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-lzlib))
("guile-zstd" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-zstd))
("guile-gcrypt" . ,(ref 'gnupg 'guile-gcrypt))
("guile-gnutls" . ,(ref 'tls 'guile-gnutls))
("guix-daemon" . ,(ref 'package-management 'guix-daemon))
("disarchive" . ,(ref 'backup 'disarchive))
("guile-lzma" . ,(ref 'guile 'guile-lzma))
("gzip" . ,(ref 'compression 'gzip))
("bzip2" . ,(ref 'compression 'bzip2))
("xz" . ,(ref 'compression 'xz))
("po4a" . ,(ref 'gettext 'po4a))
("gettext-minimal" . ,(ref 'gettext 'gettext-minimal))
("gcc-toolchain" . ,(ref 'commencement 'gcc-toolchain))
("glibc-utf8-locales" . ,(ref 'base 'glibc-utf8-locales))
("graphviz" . ,(ref 'graphviz 'graphviz))
("texinfo" . ,(ref 'texinfo 'texinfo)))
=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> The package definition of guix has this among the native inputs:
> ;; XXX: Keep the development inputs here even thou=
gh
> ;; they're unnecessary, just so that 'guix environ=
ment
> ;; guix' always contains them.
> ("autoconf" ,autoconf)
> ("automake" ,automake)
> ("gettext" ,gettext-minimal)
> ("texinfo" ,texinfo)
> ("graphviz" ,graphviz)
> ("help2man" ,help2man)
> ("po4a" ,po4a)))
>
> Maybe these could be dropped then, and we could have an expanded package
> guix-devel that would add these inputs for "guix shell -D guix-devel"?
>
> Or is it needed for "guix graph"?
No, guix graph uses its own graphviz implementation! It is used to
generated png files from .dot files while building the documentation.
I don't really know if we can skip graphical libraries for this reason.
Best,
=2D-=20
Josselin Poiret
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Subject: Re: bug#63050: "guix pull" requires graphical libraries
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Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 11:48:05PM +0200 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> This is apparently coming from Graphviz
> Surprising to me, but apparently it’s been this way from the start,
> commit b1b07d72c755ea314fb0c8333cd88293ee504ce4 (2013!).
> Maybe these are optional dependencies?
So "guix pull" builds what is defined as the guix package, but with the
current checkout as source?
The package definition of guix has this among the native inputs:
;; XXX: Keep the development inputs here even though
;; they're unnecessary, just so that 'guix environment
;; guix' always contains them.
("autoconf" ,autoconf)
("automake" ,automake)
("gettext" ,gettext-minimal)
("texinfo" ,texinfo)
("graphviz" ,graphviz)
("help2man" ,help2man)
("po4a" ,po4a)))
Maybe these could be dropped then, and we could have an expanded package
guix-devel that would add these inputs for "guix shell -D guix-devel"?
Or is it needed for "guix graph"?
$ guix graph --list-backends
- graphviz: Generate graph in DOT format for use with Graphviz.
...
But for this we do not need any graphical output, it is just text file
creation; could we have a graphviz-minimal in console mode?
Andreas
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Many of them are related to graphical environments, which should not happen for a command line program. Chances are they are pulled in for building documentation (not necessarily of Guix, but of packages that are needed for pulling); but this is still undesirable and should be sorted out. Actually there is a relatively high risk that on non-x86 machines "guix pull" will fail due to one of the packages not building. And then if the packages are fixed, they cannot be pulled... (but substitutes would still work then). Andreas The following derivations will be built: /gnu/store/vrzlz31xgsmz05m294maxvkwld98yvwp-profile.drv /gnu/store/bmk0f4b0ia9vvm9djkhjp5yiibgiwqkv-guix-827df9d1d.drv /gnu/store/75051kjkpqyk63jfcc21jxx6blh1v6xj-guix-command.drv /gnu/store/4mpya4wbmid6rxszs6qrlr56hgxpsmzx-guix-module-union.drv /gnu/store/81vk2gf0qfz325wk0rdfabpjxkwgnlcx-guile-git-0.5.2.drv /gnu/store/k8pg7wpmhzkip9h4x6vw958i81p9rrxd-libgit2-1.3.2.drv /gnu/store/w0irp6xn30nlmpizhcbjnvhqmsba41jn-cmake-minimal-3.24.2.drv /gnu/store/cqw34xafh837ikspy26787spipggx158-curl-7.85.0.drv /gnu/store/mss4yv015cil1vnjnglq506m83b7n3dy-cmake-bootstrap-3.24.2.drv /gnu/store/w8qxkrwpffd9qs5w1jggy1yi27ycm0xr-jsoncpp-1.9.5.drv /gnu/store/hlscqram59id51hxg0fj15041v52h1kw-meson-1.1.0.drv /gnu/store/97ghaxk1q09aqi92x9qg3nwb5vjm22hv-guile-gnutls-3.7.11.drv /gnu/store/n1rv809j9jwmax12057l0lcphz4bzi7s-gnulib-2022-12-06-1.440b528.drv /gnu/store/0nhbmnck41rl3i8hipkxfcvzyi36wgnr-git-minimal-2.33.1.drv 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