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- The apache mirrors defined in guix/download.scm aren't available 
  anymore.
- Compare the info at https://www.apache.org/mirrors
- (At least Some of the) packages are available at 
  https://dlcdn.apache.org/





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Maybe(!) this allows for installing newer versions of packages that are downloaded from Apache servers (e.g. Maven). Can anyone test and confirm?

---
 guix/download.scm | 15 ++-------------
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)

diff --git a/guix/download.scm b/guix/download.scm
index 561a893eee..3abbf2f10c 100644
--- a/guix/download.scm
+++ b/guix/download.scm
@@ -134,19 +134,8 @@ (define %mirrors
        "http://mirror.linux.org.au/"
        "https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/"
        "ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/")
-      (apache             ; from http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
-       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
-       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
-       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
-       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
-       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
-       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
-       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
-       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
-       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
-
-       ;; As a last resort, try the archive.
-       "http://archive.apache.org/dist/")
+      (apache
+       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/")
       (xorg               ; from http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download
        "http://www.x.org/releases/" ; main mirrors
        "http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/x.org/" ; North America

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What I tried is

$ guix shell --with-version=maven=3.9.1 maven

(or any other version that exists) and got:

guix shell: warning: could not find version 3.9.1 of 'maven' 
upstream

The patch above resolves the origin uri in gnu/packages/maven.scm 
(definition of maven-pom) to something available, 
e.g. https://dlcdn.apache.org/maven/maven-3/3.9.1/source/apache-maven-3.9.1-src.tar.gz




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Hi,

On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 22:36, Julian Flake <flake@HIDDEN> wrote:

> $ guix shell --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.9.1 maven

Just to be sure, are you using the Guix where you applied the patch?

I mean, from the Guix repository where you applied you patch, I am
expecting:

    $ ./pre-inst-env guix shell --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.9.1 maven

If that=E2=80=99s the case, it means the issue is elsewhere. :-)

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Hi,

>> $ guix shell --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.9.1 maven
>
> Just to be sure, are you using the Guix where you applied the=20
> patch?

No, the proposed patch is just an untested guess. I didn't test=20
the patch yet, because I didn't manage to build (make) my guix=20
working copy yet.

Best Regards,
Julian

On Wed, May 03 2023, Simon Tournier wrote:

> Hi,
>
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>
>> $ guix shell --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.9.1 maven
>
> Just to be sure, are you using the Guix where you applied the=20
> patch?
>
> I mean, from the Guix repository where you applied you patch, I=20
> am
> expecting:
>
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>
> If that=E2=80=99s the case, it means the issue is elsewhere. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> simon


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Hello Julian,

thank you for the patch

Julian Flake <flake@HIDDEN> writes:

> Maybe(!) this allows for installing newer versions of packages that are d=
ownloaded from Apache servers (e.g. Maven). Can anyone test and confirm?
>
> ---
>  guix/download.scm | 15 ++-------------
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/guix/download.scm b/guix/download.scm
> index 561a893eee..3abbf2f10c 100644
> --- a/guix/download.scm
> +++ b/guix/download.scm
> @@ -134,19 +134,8 @@ (define %mirrors
>         "http://mirror.linux.org.au/"
>         "https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/"
>         "ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/")
> -      (apache             ; from http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
> -       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
> -       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
> -       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
> -       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
> -       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
> -       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
> -
> -       ;; As a last resort, try the archive.
> -       "http://archive.apache.org/dist/")

The archive is still working, there is no need to remove it

> +      (apache
> +       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/")
>        (xorg               ; from http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download
>         "http://www.x.org/releases/" ; main mirrors
>         "http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/x.org/" ; North America
>
> base-commit: 960647f0161c2c99ea3417d129662181e882cfeb

Please can you send a new version of this patch, also with a proper
commit message?

Thanks! Gio'

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* guix/download.scm (Apache mirrors are substituted by CDN):
---
 guix/download.scm | 13 ++-----------
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

diff --git a/guix/download.scm b/guix/download.scm
index 561a893eee..ce29e12ae8 100644
--- a/guix/download.scm
+++ b/guix/download.scm
@@ -134,17 +134,8 @@ (define %mirrors
        "http://mirror.linux.org.au/"
        "https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/"
        "ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/")
-      (apache             ; from http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
-       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
-       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
-       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
-       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
-       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
-       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
-       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
-       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
-       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
-
+      (apache ; see https://apache.org/history/mirror-history.html
+       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/"
        ;; As a last resort, try the archive.
        "http://archive.apache.org/dist/")
       (xorg               ; from http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download

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Hello Giovanni,

> Please can you send a new version of this patch, also with a=20
> proper
> commit message?

see above (or https://issues.guix.gnu.org/63068#6). I didn't send=20
it to guix-patches@HIDDEN, since I still didn't test the=20
patch. Furthermore I am not sure, how a proper commit message=20
looks like, when it is not related to a package (there is no=20
YASnippet for that, right?).

Best Regards,
Julian

On Thu, May 04 2023, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote:

> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> Hello Julian,
>
> thank you for the patch
>
> Julian Flake <flake@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Maybe(!) this allows for installing newer versions of packages=20
>> that are downloaded from Apache servers (e.g. Maven). Can=20
>> anyone test and confirm?
>>
>> ---
>>  guix/download.scm | 15 ++-------------
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/guix/download.scm b/guix/download.scm
>> index 561a893eee..3abbf2f10c 100644
>> --- a/guix/download.scm
>> +++ b/guix/download.scm
>> @@ -134,19 +134,8 @@ (define %mirrors
>>         "http://mirror.linux.org.au/"
>>         "https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/"
>>         "ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/")
>> -      (apache             ; from=20
>> http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
>> -       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
>> -       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
>> -       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
>> -       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
>> -       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
>> -       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
>> -       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
>> -       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
>> -       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
>> -
>> -       ;; As a last resort, try the archive.
>> -       "http://archive.apache.org/dist/")
>
> The archive is still working, there is no need to remove it
>
>> +      (apache
>> +       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/")
>>        (xorg               ; from=20
>>        http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download
>>         "http://www.x.org/releases/" ; main mirrors
>>         "http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/x.org/" ; North=20
>>         America
>>
>> base-commit: 960647f0161c2c99ea3417d129662181e882cfeb
>
> Please can you send a new version of this patch, also with a=20
> proper
> commit message?
>
> Thanks! Gio'
>
> --=20
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>
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Hello Julian and Simon,

I'm trying to test this patch but I find a problem with package version
specification

Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 22:36, Julian Flake <flake@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>> $ guix shell --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.9.1 maven

If I try to _build_ maven with my current guix specifying a version I
get this:

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

$ LC_ALL=3DC guix build -n --no-substitutes maven --with-version=3Dmaven=3D=
3.8.6
guix build: warning: could not find version 3.8.6 of 'maven' upstream
The following derivations would be built:

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Am I doing something wrong?

> Just to be sure, are you using the Guix where you applied the patch?
>
> I mean, from the Guix repository where you applied you patch, I am
> expecting:
>
>     $ ./pre-inst-env guix shell --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.9.1 maven

I applied the patch and in my guix dev env I try to build maven:

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

giovanni@roquette [genv]\:  ./pre-inst-env guix build -n --no-substitutes m=
aven
/gnu/store/9cx7sijbc9n1fvq528qysh33v6aqb3d9-maven-3.8.6

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

How can I "force" the build of a package already stored in /gnu/store?

Obviously building with --with-version does not work here, also:

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

giovanni@roquette [genv]\: ./pre-inst-env guix build -n --no-substitutes ma=
ven --with-version=3Dmaven=3D3.8.6
guix build: warning: could not find version 3.8.6 of 'maven' upstream
/gnu/store/9cx7sijbc9n1fvq528qysh33v6aqb3d9-maven-3.8.6

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

[...]

What am I missing?

Thanks! Gio'

=2D-=20
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Hi,

A quick answer for one specific question. :-)

On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 08:32, Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> wrote:

> How can I "force" the build of a package already stored in /gnu/store?

See option --check.

For the rest, I will give a look later, but do not hold your breathe. ;-)

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On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:23=E2=80=AFAM Julian Flake <flake@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
>
> * guix/download.scm (Apache mirrors are substituted by CDN):
> ---
>  guix/download.scm | 13 ++-----------
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/guix/download.scm b/guix/download.scm
> index 561a893eee..ce29e12ae8 100644
> --- a/guix/download.scm
> +++ b/guix/download.scm
> @@ -134,17 +134,8 @@ (define %mirrors
>         "http://mirror.linux.org.au/"
>         "https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/"
>         "ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/")
> -      (apache             ; from http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
> -       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
> -       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
> -       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
> -       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
> -       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
> -       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
> -
> +      (apache ; see https://apache.org/history/mirror-history.html
> +       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/"

The link referenced in
https://infra.apache.org/release-distribution.html#channels is
"downloads.apache.org" rather than dlcdn.apache.org.

>         ;; As a last resort, try the archive.
>         "http://archive.apache.org/dist/")
>        (xorg               ; from http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download
>
> base-commit: 7a0a186a32524d4156bf96786d708fab323cebff
> --
> 2.39.2




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Good evening.

Here's another version of patch that changes download URL's for Apache 
Foundation products.

What I have changed:

   * Remove Apache mirror list from download.scm, since all Apache 
projects now use it's own CDN instead of mirrors
   * Set proper download URL to dlcdn.apache.org, not download.apache.org 
mentioned earlier in this discussion. download.apache.org doesn't work. 
All download URLs on apache.org are set to dlcdn.apache.org
   * Use archive.apache.org for outdated httpd-2.4.52 package. The 'last 
resort' trick in the mirror list doesn't work because some mirrors 
return empty file when you try to download from them, guix returns 'sha 
missmatch' error.

Dmitry
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Howdy ho, fellow guixers.

I did some minor research on my patch. Looks like I was wrong. There are 
more than one package, that is not available via DLCDN, but only on 
archive.apache.org. So the best solutions seems to be to change the list 
of mirrors in download.scm as described earlier.

-      (apache             ; from 
http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
-       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
-       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
-       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
-       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
-       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
-       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
-       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
-       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
-       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
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+      (apache ; see https://apache.org/history/mirror-history.html
+       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/"

Dmitry




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Hi,

On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 10:52, glaz--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix <bug-guix@HIDDEN> wrote:

> I did some minor research on my patch. Looks like I was wrong. There are 
> more than one package, that is not available via DLCDN, but only on 
> archive.apache.org. So the best solutions seems to be to change the list 
> of mirrors in download.scm as described earlier.
>
> -      (apache             ; from 
> http://www.apache.org/mirrors/dist.html
> -       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
> -       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
> -       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
> -       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
> -       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
> -       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
> -       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"
> -
> +      (apache ; see https://apache.org/history/mirror-history.html
> +       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/"

I think it is best to tweak the list of mirrors as you suggest here.
However, why remove all the others?  Are they officially down?

What I would suggest is the list:

      (apache ; see https://apache.org/history/mirror-history.html
       "https://dlcdn.apache.org/"
       "http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/"
       "http://www.us.apache.org/dist/"
       "https://ftp.nluug.nl/internet/apache/"
       "http://apache.mirror.iweb.ca/"
       "http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/apache/"
       "http://apache.mirrors.ovh.net/ftp.apache.org/dist/"
       "http://apache-mirror.rbc.ru/pub/apache/"
       "ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/apache/"
       "http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/apache/"

Hence the first item will be tried first.  And if it fails, the other
will be checked.  Then if it still fails, Guix will try other sources as
Webarchive, Software Heritage, etc.

Cheers,
simon





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