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> Perhaps we could do some more aggressive caching under the condition
> that "man -k" is really slow (as determined by e.g. some
> `Man-man-k-slow-p` variable that'd be non-nil by default on macOS)?
I'd hope the root of the problem can be fixed, but I don't think Emacs
can fix it on its own, so indeed we may have to come up with some kind
of workaround, probably disabling completion for `man` on macOS.
Stefan
BTW, maybe the slowdown is related to
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250806874 ?
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Full text available.Received: (at 63132) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 May 2023 12:09:18 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 03 08:09:18 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1puBIM-0001QZ-B4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 May 2023 08:09:18 -0400 Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16]:56678 helo=eshelyaron.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1puBIH-0001QN-HU for 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 May 2023 08:09:16 -0400 From: Eshel Yaron <me@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1683115753; bh=R9mGxVkCH/RJo6V8Zv9u2y7Z9nyeWkUslnLjpjIv+XI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=GVI3bH9Pp8qrOLut4MiU4nooYoOzb+CcRMWbrCk0gS5x+vKnpjrJpHrlvgQ1B/Ste BnzvMFZEtGnjlnfWwt3pgorgOgkZJWzKlPY8nHDURG+FTd46YvibWkzenzcHiO2UKg K/LnzB3YyIM0DOp+CL/n+hE2/p315Y6WRYKVhHgFcD0iiy4U4ijiD6iLsrTCynSe+o 6B2qeh04B2k0lg146bKQfr7SZUkntPZb/9V2CB7AnyKWS9C4gQheW7wBIwEn2EmkD+ Cugoy8uAVEEik65NJ0qpHmB1vyxEeLUeFdgzjDEIQ/XfJJiJpByUEE5lOIfRXt41kT VIdFZNBF1W35w== To: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#63132: Bug on Darwin MacOS with 'M-x man RET commandname[ ]' In-Reply-To: <jwv7ctqx4dz.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> (Stefan Monnier via's message of "Tue, 02 May 2023 09:17:53 -0400") References: <80D2DED5-3B41-4F1A-8B7E-9F0C44067461@HIDDEN> <837ctwsfst.fsf@HIDDEN> <D8C28A70-F144-4F14-96E2-72C967D8DB43@HIDDEN> <831qk4sayd.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wn1wqobx.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvpm7kggpq.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83jzxsng5l.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvsfcgexy3.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83h6svor2g.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1a5yn2qf8.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwv7ctqx4dz.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 03 May 2023 15:09:09 +0300 Message-ID: <m1354dbore.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63132 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, asocial-hired.0l@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: >> On my i9 Ventura MacBook Pro, just running `man -k read > /dev/null` >> takes almost 2.5 seconds, it'd seem that's indeed the main cause of this >> lag in `M-x man` completion. > > Hmm... here on my 10 years old desktop running Debian stable it's more > like 0.03s. If it's so slow even for situations where the users have > already typed `read`, ... hmm ... maybe we should try and make the > completion asynchronous or at least abort the `man -k` as soon as the > user types something, or add some level of caching...? > Note that there is already some caching in place, but it gets reset between invocations of `M-x man` and it only hits if the previous input for completion is a prefix of the next one. AFAICT Stefan added this caching back in 2009 along with a comment that seems to be relevant still: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- On my machine, "man -k" is so fast that a cache makes no sense, but apparently that's not the case in all cases, so let's add a cache. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Perhaps we could do some more aggressive caching under the condition that "man -k" is really slow (as determined by e.g. some `Man-man-k-slow-p` variable that'd be non-nil by default on macOS)? -- Eshel
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If it's so slow even for situations where the users have > already typed `read`, ... hmm ... maybe we should try and make the > completion asynchronous or at least abort the `man -k` as soon as the > user types something, or add some level of caching...? > Note that there is already some caching in place, but it gets reset between invocations of `M-x man` and it only hits if the previous input for completion is a prefix of the next one. AFAICT Stefan added this caching back in 2009 along with a comment that seems to be relevant still: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- On my machine, "man -k" is so fast that a cache makes no sense, but apparently that's not the case in all cases, so let's add a cache. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Perhaps we could do some more aggressive caching under the condition that "man -k" is really slow (as determined by e.g. some `Man-man-k-slow-p` variable that'd be non-nil by default on macOS)? -- Eshel
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Subject: Re: bug#63132: Bug on Darwin MacOS with 'M-x man RET commandname[ ]'
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> On my i9 Ventura MacBook Pro, just running `man -k read > /dev/null`
> takes almost 2.5 seconds, it'd seem that's indeed the main cause of this
> lag in `M-x man` completion.
Hmm... here on my 10 years old desktop running Debian stable it's more
like 0.03s. If it's so slow even for situations where the users have
already typed `read`, ... hmm ... maybe we should try and make the
completion asynchronous or at least abort the `man -k` as soon as the
user types something, or add some level of caching...?
Stefan
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Full text available.Received: (at 63132) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2023 12:52:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 02 08:52:52 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ptpUx-0002LH-Qy for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 May 2023 08:52:52 -0400 Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16]:37016 helo=eshelyaron.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1ptpUv-0002L6-UA for 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 May 2023 08:52:51 -0400 From: Eshel Yaron <me@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1683031969; bh=txZPsRQUMOv1xndWTvc9fjcJTiUXm2nCLS3qZpm/sRg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=MIY2vHnwqYn7wXSfhjSaN5xATH2SvpPvW44mw+la5VO+F/sa2Ym54IcF3cDUtqm0H uKoSp6OmE58rJTDYUAcfVeyi2dv3vBTU1T9OSAcD2C7fO459+2Hd61OQFHym9Yt5Hu GkBV75judzh+YdWRakWS2DvcsclVeSw+vNcVWbXG5LD4KS5HugUZPQ8rLMliBXDGnv lHQAGwAnqdDaQmKO4A18ZmASz51tPJ5/C3sUE/EMMcyqjSKhdWEx4vblvEhzX6makR mT3/UBab/7ZkAzfTRsISx1SaeukzTGrW/RTeUWPKKtC3ZCdMcTMaLBkR6MFqtNkYba zMdtz5wP/poIQ== To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#63132: Bug on Darwin MacOS with 'M-x man RET commandname[ ]' In-Reply-To: <83a5ynnds4.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 02 May 2023 15:00:59 +0300") References: <80D2DED5-3B41-4F1A-8B7E-9F0C44067461@HIDDEN> <837ctwsfst.fsf@HIDDEN> <D8C28A70-F144-4F14-96E2-72C967D8DB43@HIDDEN> <831qk4sayd.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wn1wqobx.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvpm7kggpq.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83jzxsng5l.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvsfcgexy3.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83h6svor2g.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1a5yn2qf8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a5ynnds4.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 02 May 2023 15:52:44 +0300 Message-ID: <m15y9a3nfn.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63132 Cc: 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@HIDDEN, asocial-hired.0l@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> I can confirm that completion in `M-x man` induces a seconds-long lag on >> Mac OS. I believe that has been the case, for me, for at least a couple >> of years. I often find myself typing out the man page name I'm looking >> for in full and avoiding completion because of this. > > Are you saying that any completion in "M-x man" produces a lag? If > so, there's nothing we can do here, except suggest that the OP > switches to a better OS. Yes, exactly. I don't know if lag is the right word, but it takes a couple of seconds for Emacs to pop the *Completions* buffer after hitting TAB or SPC or ?, regardless of the current input. > The OP seemed to say that the lag happens only for some inputs > following "M-x man", in particular those which ends with a space. Is > that not what you see? That's not what I see, no. I think OP simply stumbled upon the fact that SPC also invokes completion, which takes a long time in this case.
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Full text available.Received: (at 63132) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2023 06:33:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 02 02:33:43 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41550 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ptja2-0005PM-JP for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 May 2023 02:33:42 -0400 Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16]:43140 helo=eshelyaron.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1ptjZx-0005P9-Fo for 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 May 2023 02:33:40 -0400 From: Eshel Yaron <me@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1683009216; bh=HqmP19ubR8Suup5/UV10pdWC8n591Uaku1y0qoBaWAY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=XxWt5c5JuwaKr5RtQg+nwO5k+3SjSC/Iiat4ECiu4tX265LLbJxWC9J56oFGfHagM psNBjqoXVrCcl9T3kZlOGIrdttS8atDhD/m2VKQKxzxdILpN6ivkF+02ZW2Y+mlfXH /8YW0aJLMp6c6jqhYaweQ9Ug4EV3CqjjWdcbWU3dz7Qr3XD3QbAJdx4gcgWqipspV6 CGzMJa0u7vfak7OGcWiG6J8nx5cbr+m6zLq1esoD47YYcb47xEFO3jCns4praky2iW wFIdLcO23YeG8fLA4GH2DkRiXfuw5SdnnBfQ7DQzceM8Q/gvtYQMtJileOLrTchJDh XqJxuwfvqZG0A== To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#63132: Bug on Darwin MacOS with 'M-x man RET commandname[ ]' In-Reply-To: <83h6svor2g.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 May 2023 21:16:23 +0300") References: <80D2DED5-3B41-4F1A-8B7E-9F0C44067461@HIDDEN> <837ctwsfst.fsf@HIDDEN> <D8C28A70-F144-4F14-96E2-72C967D8DB43@HIDDEN> <831qk4sayd.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wn1wqobx.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvpm7kggpq.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83jzxsng5l.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvsfcgexy3.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <83h6svor2g.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 02 May 2023 09:33:31 +0300 Message-ID: <m1a5yn2qf8.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63132 Cc: 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, asocial-hired.0l@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> >> Cc: asocial-hired.0l@HIDDEN, 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 01 May 2023 14:03:40 -0400 >> >> >> So `M-x man RET 2 SPC TAB` should (hopefully) list all the section >> >> 2's manpages. >> > So you are saying the lags here are unavoidable? >> >> I don't know. I don't see any significant lag here. > > The OP says it only happens on macOS, not on GNU/Linux. > >> But if that's a problem, maybe we should tweak the system so we only >> fetch the list when there's at least one char after the space (to >> keep the list shorter)? > > Something like that. > I can confirm that completion in `M-x man` induces a seconds-long lag on Mac OS. I believe that has been the case, for me, for at least a couple of years. I often find myself typing out the man page name I'm looking for in full and avoiding completion because of this. >> The OP mentions Emacs crashing, which points to another problem than >> mere lag. This I cannot confirm or reproduce. AFAIR I never had Emacs crash while using `M-x man`. >> And maybe it depends on the system (or more specifically on what kind of >> `man` program is installed and how it supports `man -k`; e/g. if >> there's no prebuilt index and `man -k` scans through all the installed >> troff pages every time)? > > Any macOS users out there who could reproduce and debug this? On my i9 Ventura MacBook Pro, just running `man -k read > /dev/null` takes almost 2.5 seconds, it'd seem that's indeed the main cause of this lag in `M-x man` completion. -- Eshel
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>> So `M-x man RET 2 SPC TAB` should (hopefully) list all the section
>> 2's manpages.
> So you are saying the lags here are unavoidable?
I don't know. I don't see any significant lag here. But if that's
a problem, maybe we should tweak the system so we only fetch the list
when there's at least one char after the space (to keep the list
shorter)?
The OP mentions Emacs crashing, which points to another problem than
mere lag. I can't investigate this because I can't reproduce it here
on Debian.
And maybe it depends on the system (or more specifically on what kind of
`man` program is installed and how it supports `man -k`; e/g. if
there's no prebuilt index and `man -k` scans through all the installed
troff pages every time)?
Stefan
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> But then I don't understand the situation: why would someone type
> "M-x man RET 2 ", with the trailing space? Is this simply a mistake
> on behalf of the user?
`M-x man` accepts various special syntaxes in the minibuffer, such as
`2 read` to mean "read the manpage for `read` in the 2nd section"
(i.e. syscalls), like Arteen1000 mentions.
So `M-x man RET 2 SPC TAB` should (hopefully) list all the section
2's manpages.
Stefan
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I believ= e the issue is primarily caused by call to =E2=80=98man -k ^2=E2=80=99 and =E2= =80=98man -k ^=E2=80=99 from Man-completion-table but I am unsure. The advic= e defined doesn=E2=80=99t work on Linux VM (makes it crash) but works on Mac= OS, so I am not sure why exactly this is. > On Apr 28, 2023, at 3:43 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> Cc: 63132 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:49:30 +0300 >> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> >>=20 >>> (define-advice man (:around (orig-func &rest args) no-completing-read) >>>=20 >>> "Inhibit `completing-read'." >>=20 >> Please tell what is wrong with the arguments passed to the 'man' >> commands, so I could think about fixing that without any advices. >=20 > I think I understand the issue now: it happens inside > Man-completion-table, right? >=20 > But then I don't understand the situation: why would someone type > "M-x man RET 2 ", with the trailing space? Is this simply a mistake > on behalf of the user? >=20 > Stefan, any ideas how we can catch this situation? I don't think we > can blindly remove the trailing whitespace, since this could be > meaningful in completion?
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Subject: Re: bug#63132: Bug on Darwin MacOS with 'M-x man RET commandname[ ]'
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> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 14:10:40 -0700
> From: asocial-hired.0l--- via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
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> Hello,
>
> I am running latest emacs, built today (./configure —with-native-compilation —without-pop). This is also bug in earlier versions.
>
> When running `M-x man <RET> command-name ` where this is a command-name followed by a space, MacOS Ventura emacs in some cases lags heavily and some cases crashes.
>
> I find through investigation, for example, when it is `M-x man <RET> 2[ ]`, 2 followed by a space, it performs the equivalent ‘man -k ^’ and ‘man -k ^2’ internally. On my Linux VM, running 5.14.8-arch1-1, this is a non-issue, and speaking to others on Linux systems, it is also a non-issue there.
>
> I have fixed this temporarily on my MacOS machine by giving man advice; however, this same advice causes man not to work on my Linux VM.
>
> Currently, it is a non-issue for me, but I would like to report it nonetheless.
Thanks.
Does the patch below give good results?
diff --git a/lisp/man.el b/lisp/man.el
index 479bf9f..02be396 100644
--- a/lisp/man.el
+++ b/lisp/man.el
@@ -664,10 +664,9 @@ Man-build-man-command
(defun Man-translate-cleanup (string)
"Strip leading, trailing and middle spaces."
(when (stringp string)
- ;; Strip leading and trailing
- (if (string-match "^[ \t\f\r\n]*\\(.+[^ \t\f\r\n]\\)" string)
- (setq string (match-string 1 string)))
- ;; middle spaces
+ ;; Strip leading and trailing spaces.
+ (setq string (string-trim string "[ \t\f\r\n]" "[ \t\f\r\n]"))
+ ;; Remove middle spaces.
(setq string (replace-regexp-in-string "[\t\r\n]" " " string))
(setq string (replace-regexp-in-string " +" " " string))
string))
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