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29.0.90; with-delayed-message fails in combination with inhibit-message

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> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>,  mail@HIDDEN,
>   63253 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 09 May 2023 22:31:09 -0400
> 
> > Thanks, I think you should install this on the emacs-29 branch.  And I
> > think a similar change is needed in clear_message, so it doesn't call
> > clear-message-function.
> 
> OK, done.

Thanks.

> > But what does this mean for with-delayed-message and
> > funcall-with-delayed-message?  These were introduced in Emacs 29, but
> > if we say that atimers cannot be used to safely run arbitrary Lisp,
> > then we should somehow make them safer, perhaps by having in
> > with_delayed_message_display a subset of code message3, without the
> > calls to Lisp.  WDYT?
> 
> The code already falls back to a default behavior of displaying the
> message in the echo area when calls to ELisp can't be used.

You mean, the changes that you just installed?  If so, that is AFAIU
conditioned on garbage_collection_inhibited, which doesn't necessarily
disable Lisp calls from delayed messages in all situations.  Plus, we
might at some point decide that garbage_collection_inhibited is not
necessary in probably_quit.

What I meant was to completely disable customizing
set-message-function for delayed messages.  We don't have to support
that, and the fact that we call 'message' is just an implementation
detail.  If nothing else, this will make the effect on delayed
messages consistent no matter when and how they are actually
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> Thanks, I think you should install this on the emacs-29 branch.  And I
> think a similar change is needed in clear_message, so it doesn't call
> clear-message-function.

OK, done.

> But what does this mean for with-delayed-message and
> funcall-with-delayed-message?  These were introduced in Emacs 29, but
> if we say that atimers cannot be used to safely run arbitrary Lisp,
> then we should somehow make them safer, perhaps by having in
> with_delayed_message_display a subset of code message3, without the
> calls to Lisp.  WDYT?

The code already falls back to a default behavior of displaying the
message in the echo area when calls to ELisp can't be used.


        Stefan
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> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
> Cc: mail@HIDDEN,  63253 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 11:13:37 -0400
> 
> >> So `set-message-function` is "dangerous" because it runs ELisp code from
> >> `message3` => `message3_nolog` => `set_message`.
> >
> > So I guess we need to have run_timers bind some variable, and then in
> > set_message, if that variable is non-nil, we should avoid calling
> > functions from set-message-function?
> 
> That's probably the best short-term workaround, yes.
> 
> The quick hack below seems to avoid the problem for me (at the cost of
> ignoring `inhibit-message` for the `with-delayed-message`s).

Thanks, I think you should install this on the emacs-29 branch.  And I
think a similar change is needed in clear_message, so it doesn't call
clear-message-function.

But what does this mean for with-delayed-message and
funcall-with-delayed-message?  These were introduced in Emacs 29, but
if we say that atimers cannot be used to safely run arbitrary Lisp,
then we should somehow make them safer, perhaps by having in
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> Or maybe (or in addition) regex-emacs.c should save and restore its
> state around calls to maybe_quit?  Is that possible?

That would be very costly, I think.
But maybe `gl_state` can be turned into an array (stack) of states, or
can be stack-allocated, so that when we can do nested regexp
matches safely.

There's still the issue that `set-message-functions` could theoretically
do nasty things like insert/delete text in the current buffer, leading
to `regexp.c` containing stale pointers to the old text.


        Stefan
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> > So `set-message-function` is "dangerous" because it runs ELisp code from
> > `message3` => `message3_nolog` => `set_message`.
> 
> So I guess we need to have run_timers bind some variable, and then in
> set_message, if that variable is non-nil, we should avoid calling
> functions from set-message-function?

Or maybe (or in addition) regex-emacs.c should save and restore its
state around calls to maybe_quit?  Is that possible?
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>> So `set-message-function` is "dangerous" because it runs ELisp code from
>> `message3` => `message3_nolog` => `set_message`.
>
> So I guess we need to have run_timers bind some variable, and then in
> set_message, if that variable is non-nil, we should avoid calling
> functions from set-message-function?

That's probably the best short-term workaround, yes.

The quick hack below seems to avoid the problem for me (at the cost of
ignoring `inhibit-message` for the `with-delayed-message`s).


        Stefan


diff --git a/src/alloc.c b/src/alloc.c
index 05a19f0b7e9..7ff2cd3b100 100644
--- a/src/alloc.c
+++ b/src/alloc.c
@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@ #define PUREBEG (char *) pure
 
 /* If positive, garbage collection is inhibited.  Otherwise, zero.  */
 
-static intptr_t garbage_collection_inhibited;
+intptr_t garbage_collection_inhibited;
 
 /* The GC threshold in bytes, the last time it was calculated
    from gc-cons-threshold and gc-cons-percentage.  */
diff --git a/src/xdisp.c b/src/xdisp.c
index 43847544396..a5d7d256b6d 100644
--- a/src/xdisp.c
+++ b/src/xdisp.c
@@ -12810,6 +12810,8 @@ truncate_message_1 (void *a1, Lisp_Object a2)
   return false;
 }
 
+extern intptr_t garbage_collection_inhibited;
+
 /* Set the current message to STRING.  */
 
 static void
@@ -12819,7 +12821,11 @@ set_message (Lisp_Object string)
 
   eassert (STRINGP (string));
 
-  if (FUNCTIONP (Vset_message_function))
+  if (FUNCTIONP (Vset_message_function)
+      /* FIXME: (bug#63253) We should really make the regexp engine re-entrant,
+         but in the mean time, let's ignore `set-message-function` when
+         called from `probably_quit`.  */
+      && !garbage_collection_inhibited)
     {
       specpdl_ref count = SPECPDL_INDEX ();
       specbind (Qinhibit_quit, Qt);
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> Cc: 63253 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 09:54:35 -0400
> From:  Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> > There seems to exist an interaction issue of `with-delayed-message' with
> > `inhibit-message'.
> 
> Very much so, indeed.  The issue is fundamentally linked to
> `set-message-function`:
> 
> `with-delayed-message` calls `message3` (via
> `with_delayed_message_display`) from an "atimer", i.e. a thing that can
> be run from `process_pending_signals`, `unblock_input`, `maybe_quit`, ...
> 
> AFAIK these are places where it's safe to run some C code, but not
> places where it's safe to run arbitrary ELisp code.
> 
> So `set-message-function` is "dangerous" because it runs ELisp code from
> `message3` => `message3_nolog` => `set_message`.

So I guess we need to have run_timers bind some variable, and then in
set_message, if that variable is non-nil, we should avoid calling
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> There seems to exist an interaction issue of `with-delayed-message' with
> `inhibit-message'.

Very much so, indeed.  The issue is fundamentally linked to
`set-message-function`:

`with-delayed-message` calls `message3` (via
`with_delayed_message_display`) from an "atimer", i.e. a thing that can
be run from `process_pending_signals`, `unblock_input`, `maybe_quit`, ...

AFAIK these are places where it's safe to run some C code, but not
places where it's safe to run arbitrary ELisp code.

So `set-message-function` is "dangerous" because it runs ELisp code from
`message3` => `message3_nolog` => `set_message`.

I think this is related to bug#58042.

Here the problem is that the regexp engine is stateful, so calling
a regexp function in the middle of another regexp match causes serious
problems.  When we need to run ELisp from a regexp match for
on-the-fly syntax-propertization (in `parse_sexp_propertize`), we're
careful to try and detect if the ELisp code may have modified the
current buffer and we re-set the `gl_state` with a call to
`SETUP_SYNTAX_TABLE`.

But when `with-delayed-message' performs a regexp operation from within
another regexp match, it doesn't re-set the `gl_state`, which then leads
to this "Error in syntax_table logic for to-the-end intervals" error.

I'm surprised we haven't yet seen the same problem when the ELisp code is
run via things like -[EmacsView layoutSublayersOfLayer:] which can be
called from `maybe_quit` and call `redisplay` which in turn can run
arbitrary ELisp code (via `mode-line-format`, jit-lock, you name it).


        Stefan
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> There seems to exist an interaction issue of `with-delayed-message' with
> `inhibit-message'. In order to reproduce the issue, start emacs -Q and
> evaluate the following function:
>
> (defun delayed-message-bug ()
>   (interactive)
>   (setq inhibit-message-regexps (list "\\`something"))
>   (add-to-list 'set-message-functions #'inhibit-message)
>   (while t
>     (with-delayed-message (0.5 "Fontifying...")
>       (font-lock-flush (point-min) (point-max))
>       (font-lock-ensure (point-min) (point-max)))
>     (message "Done")))
>
> Then open a large file like emacs/src/xterm.c and run `M-x
> delayed-message-bug'. The error may not occur on the first try since it
> is timing dependent. Retry a few times if no error is observed. I
> observe the internal error

After several unsuccessful attempts, I just managed to reproduce the
problem here.  Not sure yet what was the magic incantation, but at least
I should now be able to look into the source of the problem.


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> From: Daniel Mendler <mail@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 03 May 2023 21:54:47 +0200
> 
> There seems to exist an interaction issue of `with-delayed-message' with
> `inhibit-message'. In order to reproduce the issue, start emacs -Q and
> evaluate the following function:
> 
> (defun delayed-message-bug ()
>   (interactive)
>   (setq inhibit-message-regexps (list "\\`something"))
>   (add-to-list 'set-message-functions #'inhibit-message)
>   (while t
>     (with-delayed-message (0.5 "Fontifying...")
>       (font-lock-flush (point-min) (point-max))
>       (font-lock-ensure (point-min) (point-max)))
>     (message "Done")))
> 
> Then open a large file like emacs/src/xterm.c and run `M-x
> delayed-message-bug'. The error may not occur on the first try since it
> is timing dependent. Retry a few times if no error is observed. I
> observe the internal error
> 
>     Error in syntax_table logic for to-the-end intervals
> 
> which is produced by `update_syntax_table' from syntax.c.

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There seems to exist an interaction issue of `with-delayed-message' with
`inhibit-message'. In order to reproduce the issue, start emacs -Q and
evaluate the following function:

(defun delayed-message-bug ()
  (interactive)
  (setq inhibit-message-regexps (list "\\`something"))
  (add-to-list 'set-message-functions #'inhibit-message)
  (while t
    (with-delayed-message (0.5 "Fontifying...")
      (font-lock-flush (point-min) (point-max))
      (font-lock-ensure (point-min) (point-max)))
    (message "Done")))

Then open a large file like emacs/src/xterm.c and run `M-x
delayed-message-bug'. The error may not occur on the first try since it
is timing dependent. Retry a few times if no error is observed. I
observe the internal error

    Error in syntax_table logic for to-the-end intervals

which is produced by `update_syntax_table' from syntax.c.

In GNU Emacs 29.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo
 version 1.16.0, Xaw scroll bars) of 2023-04-27
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/home/user/emacs/install --with-json
 --with-native-compilation --with-x-toolkit=athena --without-dbus
 --without-selinux --without-threads --without-gsettings --with-cairo'

Configured features:
CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBXML2 MODULES
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB
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