GNU bug report logs - #63288
30.0.50; Emacs 30 packages fail to build with native comp on some machines

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>

Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 04:00:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 30.0.50

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From: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.50; Emacs 30 packages fail to build with native comp on some
 machines
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 03:59:22 +0000
In https://github.com/nix-community/emacs-overlay/issues/318, we
received a report about failed external-package builds when using
Nix, which has some additional plumbing including
https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/blob/abcc3146aeb06b8d2ded75bddac3a63544a6be7e/pkgs/build-support/emacs/melpa2nix.el#L26-L32.

It was observed that reverting
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=ea9831bb3cb4878273f6f848051c9b8c3c76d5f1
would resolve our issue.

On my own machine, I don't always encounter the build failure (happened
to me once a few weeks ago, and then again today).




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Message #8 received at 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>, Mattias Engdegård
 <mattiase <at> acm.org>
Cc: 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#63288: 30.0.50;
 Emacs 30 packages fail to build with native comp on some machines
Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 08:18:27 +0300
> From: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>
> Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 03:59:22 +0000
> 
> In https://github.com/nix-community/emacs-overlay/issues/318, we
> received a report about failed external-package builds when using
> Nix, which has some additional plumbing including
> https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/blob/abcc3146aeb06b8d2ded75bddac3a63544a6be7e/pkgs/build-support/emacs/melpa2nix.el#L26-L32.
> 
> It was observed that reverting
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=ea9831bb3cb4878273f6f848051c9b8c3c76d5f1
> would resolve our issue.
> 
> On my own machine, I don't always encounter the build failure (happened
> to me once a few weeks ago, and then again today).

Adding Mattias.




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Message #11 received at 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase <at> acm.org>
To: 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org>
Subject: Re: bug#63288: 30.0.50; Emacs 30 packages fail to build with native
 comp on some machines
Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 16:12:14 +0200
>> In https://github.com/nix-community/emacs-overlay/issues/318, we
>> received a report about failed external-package builds when using
>> Nix, which has some additional plumbing including
>> https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/blob/abcc3146aeb06b8d2ded75bddac3a63544a6be7e/pkgs/build-support/emacs/melpa2nix.el#L26-L32.
>> 
>> It was observed that reverting
>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=ea9831bb3cb4878273f6f848051c9b8c3c76d5f1
>> would resolve our issue.
>> 
>> On my own machine, I don't always encounter the build failure (happened
>> to me once a few weeks ago, and then again today).

That's remarkable -- not only is it difficult to see anything wrong with that change (ea9831bb3c), it actually reverts byte-code generation for `ignore` forms in general so that the bytecode generated for `package-read-from-string` on master is again identical to that on emacs-29.

Andrea, does the native compiler somehow miscompile package-read-from-string?

Since the failure appears to be nondeterministic, perhaps there is a native-comp build race involved?





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Message #14 received at 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org>
To: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase <at> acm.org>
Cc: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#63288: 30.0.50; Emacs 30 packages fail to build with native
 comp on some machines
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 10:01:24 +0000
Mattias Engdegård <mattiase <at> acm.org> writes:

>>> In https://github.com/nix-community/emacs-overlay/issues/318, we
>>> received a report about failed external-package builds when using
>>> Nix, which has some additional plumbing including
>>> https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/blob/abcc3146aeb06b8d2ded75bddac3a63544a6be7e/pkgs/build-support/emacs/melpa2nix.el#L26-L32.
>>> 
>>> It was observed that reverting
>>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=ea9831bb3cb4878273f6f848051c9b8c3c76d5f1
>>> would resolve our issue.
>>> 
>>> On my own machine, I don't always encounter the build failure (happened
>>> to me once a few weeks ago, and then again today).
>
> That's remarkable -- not only is it difficult to see anything wrong
> with that change (ea9831bb3c), it actually reverts byte-code
> generation for `ignore` forms in general so that the bytecode
> generated for `package-read-from-string` on master is again identical
> to that on emacs-29.
>
> Andrea, does the native compiler somehow miscompile package-read-from-string?

Hi, (sorry for being late) not that I'm aware!  But in this case the
failer should be deterministic no?

> Since the failure appears to be nondeterministic, perhaps there is a native-comp build race involved?

Mmmh, or maybe related to the presence or not of some eln?

Best Regards

  Andrea




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Message #17 received at 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard <at> gmail.com>
To: 63288 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Brian Leung <leungbk <at> posteo.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org>
Subject: Re: bug#63288: 30.0.50; Emacs 30 packages fail to build with native
 comp on some machines
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 12:33:16 +0200
>> Andrea, does the native compiler somehow miscompile package-read-from-string?
> 
> Hi, (sorry for being late) not that I'm aware!  But in this case the
> failer should be deterministic no?

Well I haven't studied the native compiler enough to know how many dice it rolls...

>> Since the failure appears to be nondeterministic, perhaps there is a native-comp build race involved?
> 
> Mmmh, or maybe related to the presence or not of some eln?

Could be. I'm going out on a limb here and declare the byte-code compiler completely innocent in this case.

Would you work with the original reporters so that they don't have to maintain some terrible hack that may be hiding a deeper bug? If anything turns out to be pointing in my direction I'll be happy to help out.






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