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Docs: Revise or delete reference to “benevolent dictators” in Manual Introduction

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From: Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-guile <at> gnu.org
Subject: Docs: Revise or delete reference to “benevolent dictators” in Manual Introduction
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 10:22:23 +0200

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Hello,

I would like to suggest a change to the second paragraph of the Guile
Manual’s
Introduction, which currently says “Unlike, for example, Python or Perl,
Scheme
has no benevolent dictator.”

This phrase, while it may be accurate in spirit, may be misleading or
outdated,
as the examples given do not reflect the current governance models of those
languages:

- Perl is overseen by the Perl Steering Council, which also states that
Larry
  Wall has not been involved in Perl for about two decades
  (https://blogs.perl.org/users/psc/2022/05/what-happened-to-perl-7.html)
- Python is managed by the Python Steering Council, which Guido van Rossum
  withdrew from in 2020 and has not rejoined since
  (
https://discuss.python.org/t/steering-council-nomination-guido-van-rossum-2020-term/2657/11
)

Thank you for your time.

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Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>
To: Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: bug-guile <at> gnu.org, 63366 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#63366: Docs: Revise or delete reference to
 “benevolent dictators” in Manual Introduction
Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 12:01:52 +0200

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Hi,

thank you for your message. Do you already have a better fitting wording
in mind?

Best wishes,
Arne

Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to suggest a change to the second paragraph of the Guile Manual’s
> Introduction, which currently says “Unlike, for example, Python or Perl, Scheme
> has no benevolent dictator.”
>
> This phrase, while it may be accurate in spirit, may be misleading or outdated,
> as the examples given do not reflect the current governance models of those
> languages:
>
> - Perl is overseen by the Perl Steering Council, which also states that Larry
>   Wall has not been involved in Perl for about two decades
>   (https://blogs.perl.org/users/psc/2022/05/what-happened-to-perl-7.html)
> - Python is managed by the Python Steering Council, which Guido van Rossum
>   withdrew from in 2020 and has not rejoined since
>   (https://discuss.python.org/t/steering-council-nomination-guido-van-rossum-2020-term/2657/11)
>
> Thank you for your time.


-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein,
ohne es zu merken.
draketo.de

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From: Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com>
To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>
Cc: bug-guile <at> gnu.org, 63366 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#63366: Docs: Revise or delete reference to “benevolent dictators” in Manual Introduction
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 12:31:46 +0200

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Hi,

I don't have an alternative in mind.

My suggestion is to delete the sentence altogether. I think the paragraph
still makes sense without it, as the reader gets enough information to
understand how Scheme differs from other programming languages.

Best wishes,
Sebastian

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 12:05 PM Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab <at> web.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> thank you for your message. Do you already have a better fitting wording
> in mind?
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
>
> Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to suggest a change to the second paragraph of the Guile
> Manual’s
> > Introduction, which currently says “Unlike, for example, Python or Perl,
> Scheme
> > has no benevolent dictator.”
> >
> > This phrase, while it may be accurate in spirit, may be misleading or
> outdated,
> > as the examples given do not reflect the current governance models of
> those
> > languages:
> >
> > - Perl is overseen by the Perl Steering Council, which also states that
> Larry
> >   Wall has not been involved in Perl for about two decades
> >   (https://blogs.perl.org/users/psc/2022/05/what-happened-to-perl-7.html
> )
> > - Python is managed by the Python Steering Council, which Guido van
> Rossum
> >   withdrew from in 2020 and has not rejoined since
> >   (
> https://discuss.python.org/t/steering-council-nomination-guido-van-rossum-2020-term/2657/11
> )
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
>
>
> --
> Unpolitisch sein
> heißt politisch sein,
> ohne es zu merken.
> draketo.de
>

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Message #22 received at 63366-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab <at> web.de>, 63366-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#63366: Docs: Revise or delete reference to
 “benevolent dictators” in Manual Introduction
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:13:19 +0100

Hi,

Sebastian Carlos <sebaaa1754 <at> gmail.com> skribis:

> My suggestion is to delete the sentence altogether. I think the paragraph
> still makes sense without it, as the reader gets enough information to
> understand how Scheme differs from other programming languages.

I’ve (finally) removed that sentence.  Thanks!

Ludo’.

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