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Request for merging "tex-team" branch

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Package: guix-patches; Reported by: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN>; dated Mon, 15 May 2023 15:49:01 UTC; Maintainer for guix-patches is guix-patches@HIDDEN.
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Hello,

Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> skribis:

>> Maybe the branch could be rebased or master could be merged in? If you
>> pick the latest commit with a green tick by it from [1], then that
>> should mean the data service is able to perform the comparison.
>
> Sounds like a plan.  Nicolas?

I rebased the branch on top of c57693846c7c6586c6cd1b4e4002fe399e3a2c42,
which is as green-ticked as a commit can be.

Regards,
--=20
Nicolas Goaziou




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Hi,

Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

[...]

>> I'll look at getting the comparisons to happen between revisions that
>> better isolate the changes on the branch, I might just initially ignore
>> the hard case where the "merge base" in the Git sense isn't know by the
>> data service.
>
> I'm making some progress, I think I've changed the qa-frontpage in this
> way,

Awesome.  Perhaps qa-frontpage could be explicit about the commits used
for comparison?

> but unfortunately tex-team branched off master at a revision that
> data.qa.guix.gnu.org hasn't got around to processing yet, so currently
> there's no comparison.
>
> Maybe the branch could be rebased or master could be merged in? If you
> pick the latest commit with a green tick by it from [1], then that
> should mean the data service is able to perform the comparison.

Sounds like a plan.  Nicolas?

Thanks, Chris!

Ludo=E2=80=99.




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Hi,

Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

[...]

>> I'll look at getting the comparisons to happen between revisions that
>> better isolate the changes on the branch, I might just initially ignore
>> the hard case where the "merge base" in the Git sense isn't know by the
>> data service.
>
> I'm making some progress, I think I've changed the qa-frontpage in this
> way,

Awesome.  Perhaps qa-frontpage could be explicit about the commits used
for comparison?

> but unfortunately tex-team branched off master at a revision that
> data.qa.guix.gnu.org hasn't got around to processing yet, so currently
> there's no comparison.
>
> Maybe the branch could be rebased or master could be merged in? If you
> pick the latest commit with a green tick by it from [1], then that
> should mean the data service is able to perform the comparison.

Sounds like a plan.  Nicolas?

Thanks, Chris!

Ludo=E2=80=99.




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Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>
>>> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:
>>>
>>>> While I realise that waiting to make changes is fustrating, I think it=
's
>>>> important to try and build things before merging so that the effects a=
re
>>>> known. This is also good motivation to get more hardware helping to
>>>> build things to speed up the process.
>>>
>>> I opened the issue because the "tex-team" branch was fully built on
>>> CI, according to <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/461653>.
>>>
>>> Should I have looked elsewhere before asking for the merge?
>>
>> Looking at <https://qa.guix.gnu.org/branch/tex-team>, there are 13 new
>> failures on x86_64 (178 vs. 165), but I=E2=80=99m not sure what they are=
 because
>> the comparison page shows all the changed derivations (whereas we=E2=80=
=99d like
>> to see new failures only).
>>
>> How can we get that info, Chris?
>
> So, taking one step back, these numbers come from a comparison of
> tex-team and the master branch, and while that sounds sensible, because
> it's a comparison of the tips of those branches, I think some of what
> you're seeing is breakages that have happened on the master branch but
> after the last common commit.
>
>> I did find one =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D failure on the comparison page but =
I can=E2=80=99t believe
>> it=E2=80=99s related to changes in the branch:
>>
>>   https://data.qa.guix.gnu.org/gnu/store/a7898v4zq86vzn664g5xh0dq6s1p813=
k-ams-lv2-1.2.2.drv
>
> Yeah, as I say above it's possible that this has been broken on master
> and not tex-team.
>
> I'll look at getting the comparisons to happen between revisions that
> better isolate the changes on the branch, I might just initially ignore
> the hard case where the "merge base" in the Git sense isn't know by the
> data service.

I'm making some progress, I think I've changed the qa-frontpage in this
way, but unfortunately tex-team branched off master at a revision that
data.qa.guix.gnu.org hasn't got around to processing yet, so currently
there's no comparison.

Maybe the branch could be rebased or master could be merged in? If you
pick the latest commit with a green tick by it from [1], then that
should mean the data service is able to perform the comparison.

1: http://data.qa.guix.gnu.org/repository/2/branch/master

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Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> While I realise that waiting to make changes is fustrating, I think it's
>>> important to try and build things before merging so that the effects are
>>> known. This is also good motivation to get more hardware helping to
>>> build things to speed up the process.
>>
>> I opened the issue because the "tex-team" branch was fully built on
>> CI, according to <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/461653>.
>>
>> Should I have looked elsewhere before asking for the merge?
>
> Looking at <https://qa.guix.gnu.org/branch/tex-team>, there are 13 new
> failures on x86_64 (178 vs. 165), but I=E2=80=99m not sure what they are =
because
> the comparison page shows all the changed derivations (whereas we=E2=80=
=99d like
> to see new failures only).
>
> How can we get that info, Chris?

So, taking one step back, these numbers come from a comparison of
tex-team and the master branch, and while that sounds sensible, because
it's a comparison of the tips of those branches, I think some of what
you're seeing is breakages that have happened on the master branch but
after the last common commit.

> I did find one =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D failure on the comparison page but I=
 can=E2=80=99t believe
> it=E2=80=99s related to changes in the branch:
>
>   https://data.qa.guix.gnu.org/gnu/store/a7898v4zq86vzn664g5xh0dq6s1p813k=
-ams-lv2-1.2.2.drv

Yeah, as I say above it's possible that this has been broken on master
and not tex-team.

I'll look at getting the comparisons to happen between revisions that
better isolate the changes on the branch, I might just initially ignore
the hard case where the "merge base" in the Git sense isn't know by the
data service.

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Hi,

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> While I realise that waiting to make changes is fustrating, I think it's
>> important to try and build things before merging so that the effects are
>> known. This is also good motivation to get more hardware helping to
>> build things to speed up the process.
>
> I opened the issue because the "tex-team" branch was fully built on
> CI, according to <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/461653>.
>
> Should I have looked elsewhere before asking for the merge?

Looking at <https://qa.guix.gnu.org/branch/tex-team>, there are 13 new
failures on x86_64 (178 vs. 165), but I=E2=80=99m not sure what they are be=
cause
the comparison page shows all the changed derivations (whereas we=E2=80=99d=
 like
to see new failures only).

How can we get that info, Chris?

I did find one =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D failure on the comparison page but I c=
an=E2=80=99t believe
it=E2=80=99s related to changes in the branch:

  https://data.qa.guix.gnu.org/gnu/store/a7898v4zq86vzn664g5xh0dq6s1p813k-a=
ms-lv2-1.2.2.drv

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Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

> Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> While I realise that waiting to make changes is fustrating, I think it's
>> important to try and build things before merging so that the effects are
>> known. This is also good motivation to get more hardware helping to
>> build things to speed up the process.
>
> I opened the issue because the "tex-team" branch was fully built on
> CI, according to <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/461653>.
>
> Should I have looked elsewhere before asking for the merge?

I see opening the issue as something to do near the middle of the
process. Similar to opening an issue for some patches, so I think now is
a good time.

However, I'd be sceptical of what you see at [1]. I'm guessing what
you're seeing is correct (at least in the sense of Cuirrass), but there
being no more scheduled builds doesn't mean the branch is good to merge.

1: https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/461653

You can see here [2] that while substitute availability is OK for
x86_64-linux and i686-linux, it's poor for all other systems. Also, I
think this might not actually relate to changes on the branch,
substitute availability for aarch64-linux is poor from ci.guix.gnu.org
on the master branch as well.

2: https://qa.guix.gnu.org/branch/tex-team

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Hello,

Christopher Baines <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

> While I realise that waiting to make changes is fustrating, I think it's
> important to try and build things before merging so that the effects are
> known. This is also good motivation to get more hardware helping to
> build things to speed up the process.

I opened the issue because the "tex-team" branch was fully built on
CI, according to <https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/461653>.

Should I have looked elsewhere before asking for the merge?

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Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN> writes:

> I'd like the current "tex-team" to be merged into master.
>
> AFAIK, there are no blockers yet.

Thanks for creating this issue.

The bordeaux build farm hasn't started building the tex-team branch yet,
although I'll try and get that to happen soon.

Unfortunately the build farms still have quite a lot of work to do with
the master branch, if you compare the substitute availability before the
recent core-updates merge [1] to now [2], things are still very lacking
for armhf-linux and i686-linux.

1: https://data.guix.gnu.org/revision/472706ae2f9160833951a4e4bcc4c206e03097b0/package-substitute-availability
2: https://data.guix.gnu.org/repository/1/branch/master/latest-processed-revision/package-substitute-availability

While I realise that waiting to make changes is fustrating, I think it's
important to try and build things before merging so that the effects are
known. This is also good motivation to get more hardware helping to
build things to speed up the process.

Thanks,

Chris

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Hello,

I'd like the current "tex-team" to be merged into master.

AFAIK, there are no blockers yet.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou




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