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"J.P." <jp@HIDDEN> writes:
Hi,
>>> The command I've added tries to activate `emacs-news-view-mode' if
>>> defined, but I'm not sure we can change the actual prop line because
>>> older Emacs versions we support (27+) don't seem to have the file
>>> emacs-news-mode.el.
>>
>> So we might release it on GNU ELPA?
>
> You mean convert emacs-news-mode.el into a :core package? No clue about
> that, I'm afraid. Apologies if I left you with a different impression.
Yes. It wouldn't be useful not only for ERC-NEWS, but for all other
packages providing a *-NEWS file. If they are willing to follow the
conventions.
Best regards, Michael.
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Content preview: Corwin Brust writes: Hi Corwin, >> > The command I've added
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Corwin Brust <corwin@HIDDEN> writes:
Hi Corwin,
>> > The command I've added tries to activate `emacs-news-view-mode' if
>> > defined, but I'm not sure we can change the actual prop line because
>> > older Emacs versions we support (27+) don't seem to have the file
>> > emacs-news-mode.el.
>>
>> So we might release it on GNU ELPA? In its current version, it compiles
>> only with Emacs 29+, but it shouldn't be too hard to make it compatible
>> with older Emacs versions.
>
> Is your idea that e-n-v-m would become part of compact?
No.
> Otherwise, I think ERC would use it only when it is already installed
> (which is much the same situation as now). AFAIK we do not install
> things (even from GNU ELPA) automatically when desired by some core
> package.
It depends. You could use it when installed (either in vanilla Emacs or
as GNU ELPA package), w/o requiring it.
Best regards, Michael.
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For whatever reason, new and would-be users come around seeking guidance
on this particular topic with some regularity. The belated proposal
before you is intended to help stem this tide and hopefully reduce the
many man-hours spent fielding such questions on IRC.
In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.37, cairo version 1.17.6) of 2023-05-23 built on localhost
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From 36097cf468c8e44a912718933e72dd8197b95e9b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "F. Jason Park" <jp@HIDDEN>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 21:43:29 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] [5.6] Document recommended way to use ERC over Tor
* doc/misc/erc.texi: Add new SOCKS section to the chapter on
Integrations. Also bump version in front matter.
* lisp/erc/erc.el (erc-open-socks-tls-stream): New convenience
function to connect over Tor via SOCKS proxy.
---
doc/misc/erc.texi | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
lisp/erc/erc.el | 18 ++++++++++++++++
2 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/doc/misc/erc.texi b/doc/misc/erc.texi
index 1f343fc8529..c4bf6831976 100644
--- a/doc/misc/erc.texi
+++ b/doc/misc/erc.texi
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
@c %**start of header
@setfilename ../../info/erc.info
@settitle ERC Manual
-@set ERCVER 5.5
+@set ERCVER 5.6
@set ERCDIST as distributed with Emacs @value{EMACSVER}
@include docstyle.texi
@syncodeindex fn cp
@@ -611,6 +611,7 @@ Advanced Usage
Integrations
* URL:: Opening IRC URLs in ERC.
+* SOCKS:: Connecting to IRC with a SOCKS proxy.
* auth-source:: Retrieving auth-source entries with ERC.
@end detailmenu
@@ -1252,6 +1253,56 @@ Integrations
@noindent
Users on Emacs 28 and below may need to use @code{browse-url} instead.
+@anchor{SOCKS}
+@subsection SOCKS
+@cindex SOCKS
+
+People wanting to connect to IRC through a @acronym{SOCKS} proxy are
+most likely interested in doing so over @acronym{TOR} (The Onion
+Router). If that's @emph{not} you, please adapt these instructions
+accordingly. Otherwise, keep in mind that support for Tor is
+experimental and thus insufficient for safeguarding a user's identity
+and location, especially in the case of targeted individuals.
+
+ERC's preferred Tor setup works by accessing a local Tor service
+through the built-in @file{socks.el} library that ships with Emacs.
+Other means of accessing Tor, such as via @command{torsocks}, are not
+supported. Before getting started, check to ensure your Tor service
+is up and running. You can do that with the following command:
+
+@example
+curl --proxy socks5h://localhost:9050 https://check.torproject.org | \
+ grep 'Congratulations'
+@end example
+
+Networks and servers differ in how they expose Tor endpoints. In all
+cases, you'll want to first set the option @code{socks-server} to
+something appropriate, like @code{("tor" "127.0.0.1" 9050 5)}. For
+some networks, setting @code{erc-server-connect-function} to
+@code{socks-open-network-stream} might be enough. Others, like
+@samp{Libera.Chat}, involve additional setup. At the time of writing,
+connecting to @samp{Libera.Chat} requires both @acronym{TLS} and a
+non-@samp{PLAIN} @acronym{SASL} mechanism (@pxref{SASL}). One way to
+achieve that is by using the @samp{EXTERNAL} mechanism, as shown in
+the following example:
+
+@lisp
+(require 'socks)
+
+(let* ((socks-password "")
+ (socks-server '("tor" "localhost" 9050 5))
+ (erc-modules (cons 'sasl erc-modules))
+ (erc-sasl-mechanism 'external)
+ (erc-server-connect-function #'erc-open-socks-tls-stream))
+ (erc-tls
+ :server "libera75jm6of4wxpxt4aynol3xjmbtxgfyjpu34ss4d7r7q2v5zrpyd.onion"
+ :port 6697
+ :nick "jrh"
+ :user "jrandomhacker"
+ :full-name "J. Random Hacker"
+ :client-certificate (list "/home/jrh/key.pem" "/home/jrh/cert.pem")))
+@end lisp
+
@node auth-source
@subsection auth-source
@cindex auth-source
diff --git a/lisp/erc/erc.el b/lisp/erc/erc.el
index 495e25212ce..0be9eb69432 100644
--- a/lisp/erc/erc.el
+++ b/lisp/erc/erc.el
@@ -144,6 +144,8 @@ gtk-version-string
(declare-function word-at-point "thingatpt" (&optional no-properties))
(autoload 'word-at-point "thingatpt") ; for hl-nicks
+(declare-function gnutls-negotiate "gnutls" (&rest rest))
+(declare-function socks-open-network-stream "socks" (name buffer host service))
(declare-function url-host "url-parse" (cl-x))
(declare-function url-password "url-parse" (cl-x))
(declare-function url-portspec "url-parse" (cl-x))
@@ -2598,6 +2600,22 @@ erc-open-tls-stream
(setq args `(,name ,buffer ,host ,port ,@p))
(apply #'open-network-stream args)))
+(defun erc-open-socks-tls-stream (name buffer host service &rest parameters)
+ "Connect to an IRC server via SOCKS proxy over TLS.
+Bind `erc-server-connect-function' to this function around calls
+to `erc-tls'. See `erc-open-network-stream' for the meaning of
+NAME and BUFFER. HOST should be a \".onion\" URL, SERVICE a TLS
+port number, and PARAMETERS a sequence of key/value pairs, per
+`open-network-stream'. See Info node `(erc) SOCKS' for more
+info."
+ (require 'gnutls)
+ (require 'socks)
+ (let ((proc (socks-open-network-stream name buffer host service))
+ (cert-info (plist-get parameters :client-certificate)))
+ (gnutls-negotiate :process proc
+ :hostname host
+ :keylist (and cert-info (list cert-info)))))
+
;;; Displaying error messages
(defun erc-error (&rest args)
--
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