Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
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[188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x2-20020ac24882000000b004fb99da37e3sm1284826lfc.220.2023.07.01.03.33.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <835y74q6cn.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 12:33:04 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8AC42DC5-A6BF-413A-862E-9508D6E8C03E@HIDDEN> References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@HIDDEN> <86o7l66rw8.fsf@HIDDEN> <8494C1C8-435A-4817-9FA0-7D0A5F8DEC96@HIDDEN> <86a5wnmu3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <62289D18-9F94-47E5-8D2B-DBDB35C2E2DB@HIDDEN> <86r0pyt9a9.fsf@HIDDEN> <AB835F7C-F245-495C-9159-44899B8821E5@HIDDEN> <86fs6cn42v.fsf@HIDDEN> <9383E91E-0F4D-4B54-B999-6A42581CFF95@HIDDEN> <86leg3trew.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zg4jtoud.fsf@HIDDEN> <86cz1ezqou.fsf@HIDDEN> <EC52BE73-7BC3-441F-BCA2-C835110F3266@HIDDEN> <83jzvksrfu.fsf@HIDDEN> <87C322EC-8F62-4A93-ACD8-FE5F3383FF8A@HIDDEN> <837crkq7os.fsf@HIDDEN> <785E4C9D-EFE7-4A47-8CA3-D8308F4281A8@HIDDEN> <835y74q6cn.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, me@HIDDEN, zkanfer@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 1 juli 2023 kl. 12.22 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>: > I don't object to installing your changes, I just don't want to risk > any more unnecessary breakage on the release branch. There is no particular risk for that, but I'll make the changes to = master instead. (Except for two tiny fixes pushed to emacs-29, assuming they would = qualify.)
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[188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b13-20020ac2562d000000b004fb73bea65esm2836644lff.25.2023.07.01.03.07.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <837crkq7os.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 12:07:15 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <785E4C9D-EFE7-4A47-8CA3-D8308F4281A8@HIDDEN> References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@HIDDEN> <86o7l66rw8.fsf@HIDDEN> <8494C1C8-435A-4817-9FA0-7D0A5F8DEC96@HIDDEN> <86a5wnmu3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <62289D18-9F94-47E5-8D2B-DBDB35C2E2DB@HIDDEN> <86r0pyt9a9.fsf@HIDDEN> <AB835F7C-F245-495C-9159-44899B8821E5@HIDDEN> <86fs6cn42v.fsf@HIDDEN> <9383E91E-0F4D-4B54-B999-6A42581CFF95@HIDDEN> <86leg3trew.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zg4jtoud.fsf@HIDDEN> <86cz1ezqou.fsf@HIDDEN> <EC52BE73-7BC3-441F-BCA2-C835110F3266@HIDDEN> <83jzvksrfu.fsf@HIDDEN> <87C322EC-8F62-4A93-ACD8-FE5F3383FF8A@HIDDEN> <837crkq7os.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, me@HIDDEN, zkanfer@HIDDEN, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 1 juli 2023 kl. 11.53 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>: > In a way that doesn't make any significant changes in > rectangle--duplicate-right, for example. That's just the part of duplicate-dwim that lives in rect.el. > The difference is that (a) duplicate-line was a feature which was > explicitly requested by the bug report which caused its > implementation, and (b) the changes for duplicate-line were much > simpler and easier to reason about. They weren't really simpler, but that's not the point. It's about = finishing a job properly. I certainly understand the motivation behind the bug and see that it = applies to duplicate-dwim as well. We usually don't respond to requests by narrowly implementing just what = the reporter asked about and nothing else.
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Please either find a simpler > change for Emacs 29, or install on master. Simpler in what way, exactly? The bulk of the change is in tests. It is the exact equivalent to Juri's change to duplicate-line, but that = one actually had a bigger footprint; this change only affects = duplicate-dwim and nothing else. If you like, I could try splitting the change into smaller parts.
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[188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n10-20020a19550a000000b004fb844a03c7sm1548469lfe.186.2023.06.30.10.13.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Jun 2023 10:13:28 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> Message-Id: <EC52BE73-7BC3-441F-BCA2-C835110F3266@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1259380C-F890-4C05-BC96-D7D046306F2A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 19:13:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86cz1ezqou.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@HIDDEN> <86o7l66rw8.fsf@HIDDEN> <8494C1C8-435A-4817-9FA0-7D0A5F8DEC96@HIDDEN> <86a5wnmu3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <62289D18-9F94-47E5-8D2B-DBDB35C2E2DB@HIDDEN> <86r0pyt9a9.fsf@HIDDEN> <AB835F7C-F245-495C-9159-44899B8821E5@HIDDEN> <86fs6cn42v.fsf@HIDDEN> <9383E91E-0F4D-4B54-B999-6A42581CFF95@HIDDEN> <86leg3trew.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zg4jtoud.fsf@HIDDEN> <86cz1ezqou.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, me@HIDDEN, zkanfer@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --Apple-Mail=_1259380C-F890-4C05-BC96-D7D046306F2A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 29 juni 2023 kl. 09.13 skrev Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>: > I don't know if this can be closed now, since a new option for > duplicate-dwim could be created here as well. Indeed, and here it is. It also fixes a bug when duplicating some = rectangles, which arose from changes in Emacs 29. There is only a single variable for both contiguous and rectangular = regions; maybe we should have them separate -- not sure. Since this is intended for emacs-29, I'm posting it here for approval = first. --Apple-Mail=_1259380C-F890-4C05-BC96-D7D046306F2A Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Add-duplicate-region-final-position-bug-64185.patch Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="0001-Add-duplicate-region-final-position-bug-64185.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =46rom=20c7051500cbfda75a2a218c323da3715cbf7263cc=20Mon=20Sep=2017=20= 00:00:00=202001=0AFrom:=20=3D?UTF-8?q?Mattias=3D20Engdeg=3DC3=3DA5rd?=3D=20= <mattiase@HIDDEN>=0ADate:=20Fri,=2030=20Jun=202023=2018:34:10=20+0200=0A= Subject:=20[PATCH]=20Add=20duplicate-region-final-position=20(bug#64185)=0A= =0A*=20lisp/misc.el=20(duplicate-region-final-position):=20New=20= defcustom.=0A(duplicate-dwim):=20Use=20it.=0A*=20lisp/rect.el=20= (rectangle--duplicate-right):=20Add=20displacement=0Aargument.=20=20= Adjust=20for=20changes=20in=20Emacs=2029.=0A*=20test/lisp/misc-tests.el=20= 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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#64185; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2023 07:18:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 29 03:18:29 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52149 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qElvB-0006oP-8U for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 03:18:29 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:43817) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1qElv8-0006oA-KD for 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 03:18:28 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BEE7FF802; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 07:18:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line In-Reply-To: <83zg4jtoud.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2023 21:37:46 +0300") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@HIDDEN> <86o7l66rw8.fsf@HIDDEN> <8494C1C8-435A-4817-9FA0-7D0A5F8DEC96@HIDDEN> <86a5wnmu3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <62289D18-9F94-47E5-8D2B-DBDB35C2E2DB@HIDDEN> <86r0pyt9a9.fsf@HIDDEN> <AB835F7C-F245-495C-9159-44899B8821E5@HIDDEN> <86fs6cn42v.fsf@HIDDEN> <9383E91E-0F4D-4B54-B999-6A42581CFF95@HIDDEN> <86leg3trew.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zg4jtoud.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 10:13:37 +0300 Message-ID: <86cz1ezqou.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN, me@HIDDEN, zkanfer@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> > We can certainly do better. I just pushed another 10× improvement, on >> > top of the previous performance doubling for duplicate-line. >> >> Thanks, this is a nice improvement. Too bad you did this on master. >> This means I can't push the patch that Eli approved to emacs-29 anymore, >> because whoever will merge emacs-29 to master next time will be forced >> to resolve the merge conflict, and this is not a trivial task. > > You can install on emacs-29 with a commit log message which says > "don't merge to master". Then Someone™ will have to do the equivalent > fix on master. This means more work. Ok, done. I don't know if this can be closed now, since a new option for duplicate-dwim could be created here as well. Then e.g. duplicate-dwim-final-position could inherit its default value from duplicate-line-final-position. And here more general values 0, 1, -1 become an advantage since inherited symbol values such as 'last-new-line' would not make sense for the region part of duplicate-dwim.
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>> (The only consideration is performance, but probably not worth
>> making the code more complex by increasing the size of copied region
>> exponentially to avoid inserting a large amount of small chunks one by one.)
>
> We can certainly do better. I just pushed another 10× improvement, on
> top of the previous performance doubling for duplicate-line.
Thanks, this is a nice improvement. Too bad you did this on master.
This means I can't push the patch that Eli approved to emacs-29 anymore,
because whoever will merge emacs-29 to master next time will be forced
to resolve the merge conflict, and this is not a trivial task.
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We can certainly do better. I just pushed another 10=C3=97 improvement, = on top of the previous performance doubling for duplicate-line. > I see no problem in having two commands, since most users expect a = standard > command to duplicate lines, and a more general dwim command is a bonus > for more advanced uses. So AFAIC, a separate option for = duplicate-line > is a must, and an option for duplicate-dwim is a nice-to-have. That duplicate-dwim is somehow 'advanced' is a misconception: it's just = more useful, and definitely not harder to use. I don't believe in hiding useful functionality from people by = intentionally making them difficult to access.
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>> I remember already the need of doing this several times: to create
>> initial content for testing first I select one line then duplicate
>> its region, then select the whole buffer and duplicate it again
>> and so on, so the duplicated region grows exponentially.
>
> Yes, but there is no reason to do that now. Just use duplicate-dwim
> (or duplicate-line). Both benefit a lot from immediate repeatability.
I agree it's much easier to do this with the new commands now.
(The only consideration is performance, but probably not worth
making the code more complex by increasing the size of copied region
exponentially to avoid inserting a large amount of small chunks one by one.)
> I don't like the 'dwim' name part either but it has some precedence.
> A single function should suffice but since this is Emacs, we have two
> of them for historical reasons before anything is even released.
I see no problem in having two commands, since most users expect a standard
command to duplicate lines, and a more general dwim command is a bonus
for more advanced uses. So AFAIC, a separate option for duplicate-line
is a must, and an option for duplicate-dwim is a nice-to-have.
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[188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v27-20020ac2561b000000b004f8596a31dcsm1168204lfd.209.2023.06.27.08.35.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86r0pyt9a9.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:35:43 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <AB835F7C-F245-495C-9159-44899B8821E5@HIDDEN> References: <4C83E2DA-FE5F-4191-88CD-7E70008C9892@HIDDEN> <86o7l66rw8.fsf@HIDDEN> <8494C1C8-435A-4817-9FA0-7D0A5F8DEC96@HIDDEN> <86a5wnmu3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <62289D18-9F94-47E5-8D2B-DBDB35C2E2DB@HIDDEN> <86r0pyt9a9.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, me@HIDDEN, zkanfer@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 26 juni 2023 kl. 19.37 skrev Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>: > I remember already the need of doing this several times: to create > initial content for testing first I select one line then duplicate > its region, then select the whole buffer and duplicate it again > and so on, so the duplicated region grows exponentially. Yes, but there is no reason to do that now. Just use duplicate-dwim (or = duplicate-line). Both benefit a lot from immediate repeatability. > `duplicate-dwim-final-column` should be applied to both cases? > To rectangular regions and to lines? In case of lines it could > define whether to keep the original column, or move to the > beginning of the line, or to the end of the line? No, I meant the same as you were proposing for lines: whether to insert = copies before or after the original (or where point and the region = should be afterwards, but that's pretty much the same thing as long as = we preserve window-start, as you correctly pointed out). > Then I think `duplicate-dwim` is a misnomer, and it was misdesigned. > A proper name that matches the design of `thing-at-point`, would be > `duplicate-thing`. thingatpt.el contains the definition of the region > among many other things that are candidates for duplication. That is a very different operation. `duplicate-dwim` acts on a buffer = area designated by the user regardless of its content. The 'thing' = functions (there seem to be no commands) parse buffer contents to derive = a value or extent. I don't like the 'dwim' name part either but it has some precedence. A = single function should suffice but since this is Emacs, we have two of = them for historical reasons before anything is even released.
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It seems an extremely worthwhile tradeoff to me. > > Not sure how often users will read the code of duplicate-line. Developers will. And it's easier to read with symbols. On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:41=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> wrote= : > >> This might surprise you, but code would be more complicated with > symbols. > >> Instead of > >> > >> (unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 0) > >> (forward-line duplicate-line-final-position) > >> > >> it will be > >> > >> (unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'old-original-line) > >> (when (eq duplicate-line-final-position > 'first-copied-duplicate-line) > >> (forward-line 1)) > >> (when (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'last-copied-duplicate-lin= e) > >> (forward-line -1)) > > > > The code doesn't need the (unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position > > 'old-original-line) ... check. It can be only the two when cases. But > > that's a secondary matter. > > I agree. > > > The code becomes slightly more verbose this way, but is far easier to > read > > and comprehend. It seems an extremely worthwhile tradeoff to me. > > Not sure how often users will read the code of duplicate-line. > --00000000000048766605ff0d37cd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"gmail-im"> > > The code becomes slightly more verbose this way, but is far easie= r to read<br> > > and comprehend. It seems an extremely worthwhile tradeoff to me.<= br> > <br></span><div>> Not sure how often users will read the code of du= plicate-line.</div><div><br></div><div>Developers will. And it's easier= to read with symbols.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d= ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:41=E2=80=AFPM Jur= i Linkov <<a href=3D"mailto:juri@HIDDEN">juri@HIDDEN</a>> wro= te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px = 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">>> Thi= s might surprise you, but code would be more complicated with symbols.<br> >> Instead of<br> >> <br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 0)<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(forward-line duplicate-line-final-position)<br= > >> <br> >> it will be<br> >> <br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'old-ori= ginal-line)<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(when (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'fi= rst-copied-duplicate-line)<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(forward-line 1))<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(when (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'la= st-copied-duplicate-line)<br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(forward-line -1))<br> ><br> > The code doesn't need the (unless (eq duplicate-line-final-positio= n<br> > 'old-original-line) ... check. It can be only the two when cases. = But<br> > that's a secondary matter.<br> <br> I agree.<br> <br> > The code becomes slightly more verbose this way, but is far easier to = read<br> > and comprehend. It seems an extremely worthwhile tradeoff to me.<br> <br> Not sure how often users will read the code of duplicate-line.<br> </blockquote></div> --00000000000048766605ff0d37cd--
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>> I don't see from where we can get such assumption - e.g. extending
>> the region to the copied text also makes sense.
>
> No, it's actually a firm requirement. Extending the region would only
> allow making exponentially more copies which is useless in practice.
> Try it yourself and you'll see.
I remember already the need of doing this several times: to create
initial content for testing first I select one line then duplicate
its region, then select the whole buffer and duplicate it again
and so on, so the duplicated region grows exponentially.
>> When the users will request a setting for columns, then we could
>> add a new option e.g. `duplicate-dwim-final-column`.
>
> Request submitted then!
`duplicate-dwim-final-column` should be applied to both cases?
To rectangular regions and to lines? In case of lines it could
define whether to keep the original column, or move to the
beginning of the line, or to the end of the line?
>> And if the users need to do the same with regions, then a separate
>> option could be added e.g. `duplicate-dwim-final-region`.
>
> How about we, for a change, attempt this thing called design, instead
> of the customary Emacs piecemeal hodgepodge?
Then I think `duplicate-dwim` is a misnomer, and it was misdesigned.
A proper name that matches the design of `thing-at-point`, would be
`duplicate-thing`. thingatpt.el contains the definition of the region
among many other things that are candidates for duplication.
Since the design of a general thing-duplication command
is still under development, maybe it would be appropriate
to remove `duplicate-dwim` from emacs-29, and continue
its development in master?
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No, it's actually a firm requirement. Extending the region would only = allow making exponentially more copies which is useless in practice. Try = it yourself and you'll see. > When the users will request a setting for columns, then we could > add a new option e.g. `duplicate-dwim-final-column`. Request submitted then! >> If we use separate settings they should naturally work the same way, >> or users will wonder who is running the asylum. >=20 > It would be crazy to mix apples and oranges. = `duplicate-line-final-line` > should be applied only to `duplicate-line`. No, what I meant is that it would make little sense to use different = types and values for settings affecting the exact same operation on = different pieces of text. > And if the users need to > do the same with regions, then a separate option could be added > e.g. `duplicate-dwim-final-region`. How about we, for a change, attempt this thing called design, instead of = the customary Emacs piecemeal hodgepodge? > (Not sure why now one example uses boring "abcde" > instead of the overall style with "foo", "bar", "zot"). Yes there are oodles of those so I just fix the ones in examples I'm = changing for other reasons. Maybe we should take a day off and do them all in one batch.
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>> It would be a major undertaking to design
>> a similar option for `duplicate-dwim` for consistency with `duplicate-line`
>> because of more decisions necessary to make: whether to move point
>> to the beginning or the end of the copied regions, whether to select
>> all the copied regions or only one of them, etc.
>
> Actually we are helped by some constraints: duplicate-dwim must keep
> the region active afterwards, so that the user can run the same
> command immediately and get another copy. This is important for
> usability.
I don't see from where we can get such assumption - e.g. extending the region
to the copied text also makes sense.
> It seems reasonable to assume that a user wants the same behaviour in
> `duplicate-dwim` whether it is lines or columns being duplicated, and
> have a single variable controlling both. This assumption may be
> wrong: perhaps a user prefers to stay when copying a line, but move
> when copying columns?
When the users will request a setting for columns, then we could
add a new option e.g. `duplicate-dwim-final-column`.
> If we use separate settings they should naturally work the same way,
> or users will wonder who is running the asylum.
It would be crazy to mix apples and oranges. `duplicate-line-final-line`
should be applied only to `duplicate-line`. And if the users need to
do the same with regions, then a separate option could be added
e.g. `duplicate-dwim-final-region`.
> A perhaps more intuitive way of describing the behaviour is not where
> to put point afterwards, but whether copies are inserted before or
> after the original. That will generalise to duplication of regions,
> rectangular or contiguous, a little better.
>
> It's also easy to describe:
>
> (defcustom duplicate-direction 'after
> "Where to insert the copies made by `duplicate-line' and `duplicate-dwim'.
> Valid values are `after' and `before' (the original text).
> :group 'editing
> :type '(choice (const :tag "After original" after)
> (const :tag "Before original" before)))
>
> What do you think? Should we have a single setting for lines and
> regions, or individual settings for lines and regions, or for lines,
> rectangles and contiguous regions?
My first implementation of `duplicate-line` prepended the copied line
before the original line, and that implementation was flawed: it had
no visual feedback when copying the first line at the top of the window.
>> to my surprise the shortdoc of `substring` has no examples
>> of a negative argument. I don't know whether this omission
>> is intentional to make the string section shorter.
>
> Thank you for noticing this. I doubt it was intentional.
> The examples have now been extended a bit.
> I'm sure we could do better with examples in general if we were to make an effort.
Thanks.
(Not sure why now one example uses boring "abcde"
instead of the overall style with "foo", "bar", "zot").
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> 1. These values will be read far more often than they are written. A symbol
> like 'last is somewhat self-documenting. On the other hand, what is 1? Is
> it the old line, because it's highest up on the screen? Is it the last new
> line, because the last new line has the greatest point, and 1 is the
> greatest of the options? (In the current implementation, it's the first new
> line. Did you know that until I mentioned it?) The values have to be
> recalled each time they are used.
> 2. These settings aren't really integers. We won't want to add, multiply,
> subtract or divide them.
> 3. Using integers leads to more complicated code. The current patch has a
> line (unless (< duplicate-line-final-position 0) ...). I believe this would
> be easier to read as (unless (equal duplicate-line-final-position 'last) .
> ..).
This might surprise you, but code would be more complicated with symbols.
Instead of
(unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 0)
(forward-line duplicate-line-final-position)
it will be
(unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'old-original-line)
(when (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'first-copied-duplicate-line)
(forward-line 1))
(when (eq duplicate-line-final-position 'last-copied-duplicate-line)
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It's a false flexibility; nobody will ever set it to something other than 0, 1 or -1. Symbols would probably be better, for several reasons. I agree. The reasons I can think of are as follows: 1. These values will be read far more often than they are written. A symbol like 'last is somewhat self-documenting. On the other hand, what is 1? Is it the old line, because it's highest up on the screen? Is it the last new line, because the last new line has the greatest point, and 1 is the greatest of the options? (In the current implementation, it's the first new line. Did you know that until I mentioned it?) The values have to be recalled each time they are used. 2. These settings aren't really integers. We won't want to add, multiply, subtract or divide them. 3. Using integers leads to more complicated code. The current patch has a line (unless (< duplicate-line-final-position 0) ...). I believe this would be easier to read as (unless (equal duplicate-line-final-position 'last) ...). On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:08=E2=80=AFAM Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd < mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> wrote: > > 'duplicate-dwim' duplicates the region if it is active. If not, it > > works like 'duplicate-line'. An active rectangular region is > > -duplicated on its right-hand side. > > +duplicated on its right-hand side. The new user option > > +'duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to move point > > +after duplicating the line. > > This makes it unclear to what extent the variable affects > `duplicate-dwim`. (For some reason it only does so when the region is > inactive, which doesn't seem right.) > > And I agree that allowing any integer as value isn't necessary the best > choice here. It's a false flexibility; nobody will ever set it to somethi= ng > other than 0, 1 or -1. Symbols would probably be better, for several > reasons. > > Finally, it's a bit surprising that this is even discussed for inclusion > in Emacs 29 at this stage, given the raw state of the design. What about = we > do a proper job on master instead, instead of rushing a half-baked new > feature into a branch that is already deep into pre-release? > > --000000000000b6a5ed05feec12b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"gmail-im">> =C2=A0And I agree that allow= ing any integer as value=20 isn't necessary the best choice here. It's a false flexibility; nob= ody=20 will ever set it to something other than 0, 1 or -1. Symbols would=20 probably be better, for several reasons.<br><br></span>I agree. The reasons= I can think of are as follows:<br><br>1. These values will be read far more often than they are written. A=20 symbol like 'last is somewhat self-documenting. On the other hand, what= =20 is 1? Is it the old line, because it's highest up on the screen? Is it= =20 the last new line, because the last new line has the greatest point, and 1 is the greatest of the options? (In the current implementation, it's= =20 the first new line. Did you know that until I mentioned it?) The values=20 have to be recalled each time they are used.<br>2. These settings aren'= t really integers. We won't want to add, multiply, subtract or divide t= hem.<br>3. Using integers leads to more complicated code. The current patch has a=20 line (unless (< duplicate-line-final-position 0) ...). I believe this would be easier to read as (unless (equal duplicate-line-final-position 'last) ...).</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas= s=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:08=E2=80=AFAM Mattias Engdeg=C3= =A5rd <<a href=3D"mailto:mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN">mattias.engdegard@= gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">>=C2=A0 'duplicate-dwim' duplicates the region if it = is active.=C2=A0 If not, it<br> >=C2=A0 works like 'duplicate-line'.=C2=A0 An active rectangular= region is<br> > -duplicated on its right-hand side.<br> > +duplicated on its right-hand side.=C2=A0 The new user option<br> > +'duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to move point= <br> > +after duplicating the line.<br> <br> This makes it unclear to what extent the variable affects `duplicate-dwim`.= (For some reason it only does so when the region is inactive, which doesn&= #39;t seem right.)<br> <br> And I agree that allowing any integer as value isn't necessary the best= choice here. It's a false flexibility; nobody will ever set it to some= thing other than 0, 1 or -1. Symbols would probably be better, for several = reasons.<br> <br> Finally, it's a bit surprising that this is even discussed for inclusio= n in Emacs 29 at this stage, given the raw state of the design. What about = we do a proper job on master instead, instead of rushing a half-baked new f= eature into a branch that is already deep into pre-release?<br> <br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000b6a5ed05feec12b5--
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23 juni 2023 kl. 18.45 skrev Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>:
> It would be a major undertaking to design
> a similar option for `duplicate-dwim` for consistency with =
`duplicate-line`
> because of more decisions necessary to make: whether to move point
> to the beginning or the end of the copied regions, whether to select
> all the copied regions or only one of them, etc.
Actually we are helped by some constraints: duplicate-dwim must keep the =
region active afterwards, so that the user can run the same command =
immediately and get another copy. This is important for usability.
It seems reasonable to assume that a user wants the same behaviour in =
`duplicate-dwim` whether it is lines or columns being duplicated, and =
have a single variable controlling both. This assumption may be wrong: =
perhaps a user prefers to stay when copying a line, but move when =
copying columns?
If we use separate settings they should naturally work the same way, or =
users will wonder who is running the asylum.
A perhaps more intuitive way of describing the behaviour is not where to =
put point afterwards, but whether copies are inserted before or after =
the original. That will generalise to duplication of regions, =
rectangular or contiguous, a little better.
It's also easy to describe:
(defcustom duplicate-direction 'after
"Where to insert the copies made by `duplicate-line' and =
`duplicate-dwim'.
Valid values are `after' and `before' (the original text).
:group 'editing
:type '(choice (const :tag "After original" after)
(const :tag "Before original" before)))
What do you think? Should we have a single setting for lines and =
regions, or individual settings for lines and regions, or for lines, =
rectangles and contiguous regions?
> For users who know Emacs Lisp and like to write plain values in =
~/.emacs,
> the values 0, 1, -1 are more intuitive and familiar due to functions
> like `substring`, etc.
I suppose I'm one of those who don't know Emacs Lisp then!
> to my surprise the shortdoc of `substring` has no examples
> of a negative argument. I don't know whether this omission
> is intentional to make the string section shorter.
Thank you for noticing this. I doubt it was intentional.
The examples have now been extended a bit.
I'm sure we could do better with examples in general if we were to make =
an effort.
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>> The first thing that springs to mind here is "where on the line is
>> point placed?". At the beginning, end, same column as when
>> duplicate-line was invoked? (I know I could just read the code, but
>> the caffeine hasnʼt kicked in yet :-))
>
> This is a NEWS entry, it doesn't have to provide such details. The
> doc string should, so if these details are missing from the doc
> string, it should be improved to include them.
Now the docstring is updated:
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@@ -696,7 +696,9 @@ between these modes while the user is inputting a command by hitting
'duplicate-line' duplicates the current line the specified number of times.
'duplicate-dwim' duplicates the region if it is active. If not, it
works like 'duplicate-line'. An active rectangular region is
-duplicated on its right-hand side.
+duplicated on its right-hand side. The new user option
+'duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to move point
+after duplicating the line.
---
** Files with the ".eld" extension are now visited in 'lisp-data-mode'.
diff --git a/lisp/misc.el b/lisp/misc.el
index ca013d5f72f..898fe9dd168 100644
--- a/lisp/misc.el
+++ b/lisp/misc.el
@@ -63,21 +63,42 @@ copy-from-above-command
(+ n (point)))))))
(insert string)))
+(defcustom duplicate-line-final-position 0
+ "Where to put point after duplicating the line with `duplicate-line'.
+When 0, leave point on the original line.
+When 1, move point to the first new line.
+When -1, move point to the last new line.
+The same column is preserved after moving to a new line."
+ :type '(choice (const :tag "Leave point on old line" 0)
+ (const :tag "Move point to first new line" 1)
+ (const :tag "Move point to last new line" -1)
+ (integer))
+ :group 'editing
+ :version "29.1")
+
;;;###autoload
(defun duplicate-line (&optional n)
"Duplicate the current line N times.
Interactively, N is the prefix numeric argument, and defaults to 1.
+The user option `duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to
+move point after duplicating the line.
Also see the `copy-from-above-command' command."
(interactive "p")
(unless n
(setq n 1))
- (let ((line (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position))))
- (save-excursion
- (forward-line 1)
- (unless (bolp)
- (insert "\n"))
- (dotimes (_ n)
- (insert line "\n")))))
+ (let ((line (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))
+ (pos (point))
+ (col (current-column)))
+ (forward-line 1)
+ (unless (bolp)
+ (insert "\n"))
+ (dotimes (_ n)
+ (insert line "\n"))
+ (unless (< duplicate-line-final-position 0)
+ (goto-char pos))
+ (unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 0)
+ (forward-line duplicate-line-final-position)
+ (move-to-column col))))
(declare-function rectangle--duplicate-right "rect" (n))
diff --git a/test/lisp/misc-tests.el b/test/lisp/misc-tests.el
index f1d22e099b9..ea27ea1653b 100644
--- a/test/lisp/misc-tests.el
+++ b/test/lisp/misc-tests.el
@@ -88,6 +88,20 @@ misc--duplicate-line
(duplicate-line 2)
(should (equal (buffer-string) "abc\ndefg\ndefg\ndefg\nh\n"))
(should (equal (point) 7)))
+ ;; Duplicate a line (twice) and move point to the first duplicated line.
+ (with-temp-buffer
+ (insert "abc\ndefg\nh\n")
+ (goto-char 7)
+ (let ((duplicate-line-final-position 1)) (duplicate-line 2))
+ (should (equal (buffer-string) "abc\ndefg\ndefg\ndefg\nh\n"))
+ (should (equal (point) 12)))
+ ;; Duplicate a line (twice) and move point to the last duplicated line.
+ (with-temp-buffer
+ (insert "abc\ndefg\nh\n")
+ (goto-char 7)
+ (let ((duplicate-line-final-position -1)) (duplicate-line 2))
+ (should (equal (buffer-string) "abc\ndefg\ndefg\ndefg\nh\n"))
+ (should (equal (point) 17)))
;; Duplicate a non-terminated line.
(with-temp-buffer
(insert "abc")
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>> 'duplicate-dwim' duplicates the region if it is active. If not, it
>> works like 'duplicate-line'. An active rectangular region is
>> -duplicated on its right-hand side.
>> +duplicated on its right-hand side. The new user option
>> +'duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to move point
>> +after duplicating the line.
>
> This makes it unclear to what extent the variable affects
> `duplicate-dwim`. (For some reason it only does so when the region is
> inactive, which doesn't seem right.)
The new command `duplicate-line` would be useless for many users
without that option. There is no such problem for `duplicate-dwim`
that is more complicated. It would be a major undertaking to design
a similar option for `duplicate-dwim` for consistency with `duplicate-line`
because of more decisions necessary to make: whether to move point
to the beginning or the end of the copied regions, whether to select
all the copied regions or only one of them, etc.
> And I agree that allowing any integer as value isn't necessary the
> best choice here. It's a false flexibility; nobody will ever set it
> to something other than 0, 1 or -1. Symbols would probably be better,
> for several reasons.
For users of the Customization UI the choices are explained clearly:
:type '(choice (const :tag "Leave point on old line" 0)
(const :tag "Move point to first new line" 1)
(const :tag "Move point to last new line" -1)
(integer))
For users who know Emacs Lisp and like to write plain values in ~/.emacs,
the values 0, 1, -1 are more intuitive and familiar due to functions
like `substring`, etc.
BTW, to my surprise the shortdoc of `substring` has no examples
of a negative argument. I don't know whether this omission
is intentional to make the string section shorter.
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Of course, if the proposal is controversial, we shouldn't > rush. My impression till now was that it wasn't controversial. If > the only issue is better documentation and/or whether the value should > be a number or a symbol, then I see no problem with installing this on > the release branch. The new setting would be quite incomplete if it doesn't apply to the = more general and useful duplicate-dwim as well. I can help with that but = obviously want it done properly. It's not as straightforward as when duplicating lines because the region = would need to move, and it's a lot more complicated for rectangles. This = may take some time to get right. In particular, the full generality of allowing an arbitrary number to be = specified adds quite some complexity here, and it's all useless = gold-plating -- nobody will ever set that knob to 3, say.
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>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:19:18 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> said:
>> The first thing that springs to mind here is "where on the line is
>> point placed?". At the beginning, end, same column as when
>> duplicate-line was invoked? (I know I could just read the code, but
>> the caffeine hasn=CA=BCt kicked in yet :-))
Eli> This is a NEWS entry, it doesn't have to provide such details. The
Eli> doc string should, so if these details are missing from the doc
Eli> string, it should be improved to include them.
The doc string doesn=CA=BCt provide those details
Robert
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>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:17:51 +0300, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> sai=
d:
Juri> diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
Juri> index ca0d602e9ad..aa3b758a815 100644
Juri> --- a/etc/NEWS
Juri> +++ b/etc/NEWS
Juri> @@ -696,7 +696,9 @@ between these modes while the user is inputti=
ng a command by hitting
Juri> 'duplicate-line' duplicates the current line the specified numbe=
r of times.
Juri> 'duplicate-dwim' duplicates the region if it is active. If not,=
it
Juri> works like 'duplicate-line'. An active rectangular region is
Juri> -duplicated on its right-hand side.
Juri> +duplicated on its right-hand side. The new user option
Juri> +'duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to move point
Juri> +after duplicating the line.
The first thing that springs to mind here is "where on the line is
point placed?". At the beginning, end, same column as when
duplicate-line was invoked? (I know I could just read the code, but
the caffeine hasn=CA=BCt kicked in yet :-))
Robert
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Is there a standard to use numbers as the values, rather than, say, symbols? It seems more readable to look at an option of '(old new last), for example, rather than '(-1 0 1). I also like the added tests! On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 2:30=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> > > Cc: zkanfer@HIDDEN, 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, me@HIDDEN > > Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:17:51 +0300 > > > > Unless someone has an idea for a shorter name that is still descriptive= , > > here is the final patch for emacs-29: > > LGTM, thanks. But let's wait for a day or two to give others a chance > to comment. > --0000000000004a47a505fec58628 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The option looks really nice to me!</div><div><br></d= iv><div>Is there a standard to use numbers as the values, rather than, say,= symbols? It seems more readable to look at an option of '(old new last= ), for example, rather than '(-1 0 1).</div><div><br></div><div>I also = like the added tests!<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di= r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 2:30=E2=80=AFPM Eli = Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">eliz@HIDDEN= g</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= :0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"= >> From: Juri Linkov <<a href=3D"mailto:juri@HIDDEN" target=3D"_b= lank">juri@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:zkanfer@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">zkanfer@gma= il.com</a>,=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank= ">64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a>,=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:me@HIDDEN" tar= get=3D"_blank">me@HIDDEN</a><br> > Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:17:51 +0300<br> > <br> > Unless someone has an idea for a shorter name that is still descriptiv= e,<br> > here is the final patch for emacs-29:<br> <br> LGTM, thanks.=C2=A0 But let's wait for a day or two to give others a ch= ance<br> to comment.<br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000004a47a505fec58628--
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I don't see the code for it in the bug thread, and I can't guess from the descriptions there. E.g., what does this mean? > we could have a user option to do that > regardless of the argument, but then we > should decide on which of the N new lines > to put point: the first one copied or the last one. And this doesn't help (me) either: > In case of a prefix numeric argument, > it also makes sense to have 3 choices: > > 1. leave point on the old line > 2. move point to the first new line > 3. move point to the last new line The "old line" is presumably the current line before the command is invoked. No idea what "first" and "last" new line might mean. Is this about duplicating multiple lines? Is it about doing that and then also moving them down or up? Without a full description or seeing the code, I can't suggest anything helpful about the name; sorry.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2023 18:53:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 22 14:53:40 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36738 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qCPR5-0008RR-Qy for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 14:53:40 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:58087) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1qCPR4-0008RD-DA for 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 14:53:38 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA4C640002; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:53:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [External] : bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB5488776062FC2959D0985007F322A@HIDDEN> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:42:36 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <CAFXT+RPvQ9z=GEuA58O0Lo3wZPbNsJuoh7QuZ9vzFN-Akfd44A@HIDDEN> <m17cry64mg.fsf@HIDDEN> <837cry73z9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAFXT+RO1zrfk31+OLVTBnKHiY0NOvxz92qdP+=4SvLeMThh2Pg@HIDDEN> <838rcc3wzs.fsf@HIDDEN> <86ttv0ynyk.fsf@HIDDEN> <83mt0r31n4.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a5wrxv9z.fsf@HIDDEN> <83edm32xy9.fsf@HIDDEN> <SJ0PR10MB5488F9BAEB51AC8F9B9B374FF322A@HIDDEN> <86legbwdtf.fsf@HIDDEN> <SJ0PR10MB5488776062FC2959D0985007F322A@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:52:03 +0300 Message-ID: <868rcbwcrw.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: "64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, "me@HIDDEN" <me@HIDDEN>, "zkanfer@HIDDEN" <zkanfer@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> > FWIW - >> > >> > Point is the cursor position. So I'd suggest >> > just "point" (or "cursor-position", if you >> > like), and not "point-position". >> > >> > We do use `pos' in various names to mean a >> > buffer position, but in those cases it >> > doesn't stand for point (the cursor position). >> > So I agree that `pos' shouldn't be used here. >> >> In the patch a new position is counted by lines, >> so maybe a better name would be 'duplicate-line-final-line'. >> But this double "line-line" doesn't look nice. > > Is it about absolute line number, relative line > number, cursor position (point), some other buffer > position,...? > > A guess, from what you just wrote, is that it's > about the relative line number, i.e., relative > to the number of the line of the cursor initially. > (Just a guess; haven't followed this thread.) It's a relative line number - an offset from the original line number where the number is in line units.
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So I'd suggest > > just "point" (or "cursor-position", if you > > like), and not "point-position". > > > > We do use `pos' in various names to mean a > > buffer position, but in those cases it > > doesn't stand for point (the cursor position). > > So I agree that `pos' shouldn't be used here. >=20 > In the patch a new position is counted by lines, > so maybe a better name would be 'duplicate-line-final-line'. > But this double "line-line" doesn't look nice. Is it about absolute line number, relative line number, cursor position (point), some other buffer position,...? A guess, from what you just wrote, is that it's about the relative line number, i.e., relative to the number of the line of the cursor initially. (Just a guess; haven't followed this thread.)
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>> +(defcustom duplicate-line-pos 0
>> + "Where to put point after copying the line.
>
> A better name for this would be duplicate-line-final-position or maybe
> duplicate-line-point-position.
Unless someone has an idea for a shorter name that is still descriptive,
here is the final patch for emacs-29:
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diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index ca0d602e9ad..aa3b758a815 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -696,7 +696,9 @@ between these modes while the user is inputting a command by hitting
'duplicate-line' duplicates the current line the specified number of times.
'duplicate-dwim' duplicates the region if it is active. If not, it
works like 'duplicate-line'. An active rectangular region is
-duplicated on its right-hand side.
+duplicated on its right-hand side. The new user option
+'duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to move point
+after duplicating the line.
---
** Files with the ".eld" extension are now visited in 'lisp-data-mode'.
diff --git a/lisp/misc.el b/lisp/misc.el
index ca013d5f72f..67048d4ec34 100644
--- a/lisp/misc.el
+++ b/lisp/misc.el
@@ -63,21 +63,41 @@ copy-from-above-command
(+ n (point)))))))
(insert string)))
+(defcustom duplicate-line-final-position 0
+ "Where to put point after duplicating the line with `duplicate-line'.
+When 0, leave point on the original line.
+When 1, move point to the first new line.
+When -1, move point to the last new line."
+ :type '(choice (const :tag "Leave point on old line" 0)
+ (const :tag "Move point to first new line" 1)
+ (const :tag "Move point to last new line" -1)
+ (integer))
+ :group 'editing
+ :version "29.1")
+
;;;###autoload
(defun duplicate-line (&optional n)
"Duplicate the current line N times.
Interactively, N is the prefix numeric argument, and defaults to 1.
+The user option `duplicate-line-final-position' specifies where to
+move point after duplicating the line.
Also see the `copy-from-above-command' command."
(interactive "p")
(unless n
(setq n 1))
- (let ((line (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position))))
- (save-excursion
- (forward-line 1)
- (unless (bolp)
- (insert "\n"))
- (dotimes (_ n)
- (insert line "\n")))))
+ (let ((line (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))
+ (pos (point))
+ (col (current-column)))
+ (forward-line 1)
+ (unless (bolp)
+ (insert "\n"))
+ (dotimes (_ n)
+ (insert line "\n"))
+ (unless (< duplicate-line-final-position 0)
+ (goto-char pos))
+ (unless (eq duplicate-line-final-position 0)
+ (forward-line duplicate-line-final-position)
+ (move-to-column col))))
(declare-function rectangle--duplicate-right "rect" (n))
diff --git a/test/lisp/misc-tests.el b/test/lisp/misc-tests.el
index f1d22e099b9..ea27ea1653b 100644
--- a/test/lisp/misc-tests.el
+++ b/test/lisp/misc-tests.el
@@ -88,6 +88,20 @@ misc--duplicate-line
(duplicate-line 2)
(should (equal (buffer-string) "abc\ndefg\ndefg\ndefg\nh\n"))
(should (equal (point) 7)))
+ ;; Duplicate a line (twice) and move point to the first duplicated line.
+ (with-temp-buffer
+ (insert "abc\ndefg\nh\n")
+ (goto-char 7)
+ (let ((duplicate-line-final-position 1)) (duplicate-line 2))
+ (should (equal (buffer-string) "abc\ndefg\ndefg\ndefg\nh\n"))
+ (should (equal (point) 12)))
+ ;; Duplicate a line (twice) and move point to the last duplicated line.
+ (with-temp-buffer
+ (insert "abc\ndefg\nh\n")
+ (goto-char 7)
+ (let ((duplicate-line-final-position -1)) (duplicate-line 2))
+ (should (equal (buffer-string) "abc\ndefg\ndefg\ndefg\nh\n"))
+ (should (equal (point) 17)))
;; Duplicate a non-terminated line.
(with-temp-buffer
(insert "abc")
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FWIW - Point is the cursor position. So I'd suggest just "point" (or "cursor-position", if you like), and not "point-position". We do use `pos' in various names to mean a buffer position, but in those cases it doesn't stand for point (the cursor position). So I agree that `pos' shouldn't be used here.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#64185; Package emacs.
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>> > Or we could have a user option to do that regardless of the argument,
>> > but then we should decide on which of the N new lines to put point:
>> > the first one copied or the last one.
>>
>> A user option looks preferable. In case of a prefix numeric argument,
>> it also makes sense to have 3 choices:
>>
>> 1. leave point on the old line
>> 2. move point to the first new line
>> 3. move point to the last new line
>
> Patches welcome, but if you want to have this in Emacs 29, please
> hurry up with the patches.
This is both simple and general allowing to specify any number
for the new line position counting from the first/last line,
but only values 0, 1, and -1 are really useful:
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diff --git a/lisp/misc.el b/lisp/misc.el
index ca013d5f72f..a0c8a1f620e 100644
--- a/lisp/misc.el
+++ b/lisp/misc.el
@@ -63,6 +63,14 @@ copy-from-above-command
(+ n (point)))))))
(insert string)))
+(defcustom duplicate-line-pos 0
+ "Where to put point after copying the line.
+When 0, leave point on the original line.
+When 1, move point to the first new line.
+When -1, move point to the last new line."
+ :type 'integer
+ :version "29.1")
+
;;;###autoload
(defun duplicate-line (&optional n)
"Duplicate the current line N times.
@@ -71,13 +79,19 @@ duplicate-line
(interactive "p")
(unless n
(setq n 1))
- (let ((line (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position))))
- (save-excursion
- (forward-line 1)
- (unless (bolp)
- (insert "\n"))
- (dotimes (_ n)
- (insert line "\n")))))
+ (let ((line (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))
+ (pos (unless (< duplicate-line-pos 0) (point)))
+ (column (unless (eq duplicate-line-pos 0) (current-column))))
+ (forward-line 1)
+ (unless (bolp)
+ (insert "\n"))
+ (dotimes (_ n)
+ (insert line "\n"))
+ (unless (< duplicate-line-pos 0)
+ (goto-char pos))
+ (unless (eq duplicate-line-pos 0)
+ (forward-line duplicate-line-pos)
+ (move-to-column column))))
(declare-function rectangle--duplicate-right "rect" (n))
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Full text available.Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2023 07:13:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 22 03:13:55 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34711 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qCEVv-0006cb-06 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 03:13:55 -0400 Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.200]:37351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1qCEVt-0006cP-JW for 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 03:13:53 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 724142000A; Thu, 22 Jun 2023 07:13:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line In-Reply-To: <838rcc3wzs.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 22 Jun 2023 08:08:07 +0300") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <CAFXT+RPvQ9z=GEuA58O0Lo3wZPbNsJuoh7QuZ9vzFN-Akfd44A@HIDDEN> <m17cry64mg.fsf@HIDDEN> <837cry73z9.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAFXT+RO1zrfk31+OLVTBnKHiY0NOvxz92qdP+=4SvLeMThh2Pg@HIDDEN> <838rcc3wzs.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 09:57:31 +0300 Message-ID: <86ttv0ynyk.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, me@HIDDEN, Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> I do think it's more useful to put point on the second line; I almost >> always find myself wanting to edit the "new" line, not the old >> one. Yes, there isn't really a new vs old line, but I write the first >> thing I want to see first, then want to duplicate it to make >> a changed second line. I agree that it's more useful to put point on the second line. This is the reason why I can't use the new command 'duplicate-line', so forced to continue using my own implementation in ~/.emacs. > We could have the prefix arg of - (i.e., "C-u - M-x ...") produce that > behavior from duplicate-line. The problem is how to define this behavior with the prefix arg C-u in case when a prefix numeric argument is used. > Or we could have a user option to do that regardless of the argument, > but then we should decide on which of the N new lines to put point: > the first one copied or the last one. A user option looks preferable. In case of a prefix numeric argument, it also makes sense to have 3 choices: 1. leave point on the old line 2. move point to the first new line 3. move point to the last new line
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I was running 28.2, and duplicate-line was added since that release. Thank you for pointing those functions out. I do think it's more useful to put point on the second line; I almost always find myself wanting to edit the "new" line, not the old one. Yes, there isn't really a new vs old line, but I write the first thing I want to see first, then want to duplicate it to make a changed second line. I suspect that although it hasn't been in a released version yet, it's slightly late to have a discussion about changing the behavior to leave point on the second line instead of the first. On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:44=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:15:51 +0300 > > From: Eshel Yaron via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > > > How does this relate to the existing `duplicate-line`? > > There's also copy-from-above-command. > --0000000000001e635305feaf8cb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hrm, this is relatively similar to duplicate-line. I = was running 28.2, and duplicate-line was added since that release. Thank yo= u for pointing those functions out.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I do think= it's more useful to put point on the second line; I almost always find= myself wanting to edit the "new" line, not the old one. Yes, the= re isn't really a new vs old line, but I write the first thing I want t= o see first, then want to duplicate it to make a changed second line.</div>= <div><br></div><div>I suspect that although it hasn't been in a release= d version yet, it's slightly late to have a discussion about changing t= he behavior to leave point on the second line instead of the first.<br></di= v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr= ">On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:44=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mail= to:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"= gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20= 4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:64185@HIDDEN= rg" target=3D"_blank">64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a><br> > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:15:51 +0300<br> > From:=C2=A0 Eshel Yaron via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,<br> >=C2=A0 the Swiss army knife of text editors" <<a href=3D"mailto= :bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>><br> > <br> > How does this relate to the existing `duplicate-line`?<br> <br> There's also copy-from-above-command.<br> </blockquote></div> --0000000000001e635305feaf8cb1--
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Full text available.Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2023 11:44:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 20 07:44:30 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qBZmg-0005Td-BG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 07:44:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qBZmd-0005TP-TQ for 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 07:44:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qBZmX-0004Jq-H9; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 07:44:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Jq3fn+dWHVwaPEEoraew5wzWBFxk3a05xFQnVcobTQA=; b=nfeWoQGqXl1N k51duxj9WiqKwl05pBBa4TtjP0LMsrOs2imqdnp3UkwQmwy9QA7DKi/HrgCe4t+BfglAhCZ/WqkjW 5r9ycktvHWUA0Njt6ZfMnMzqfXRpSmnqYaNJsAtzcxIpYIgLGElzyFh5U8QTt3gQpo3Nzy+g4ceUQ iXs6NbKlb4i6O/GcOOsIY8QQhM1GkbrEMmh4x+FiqsN+4+mmnFaHmCuK8/WFtsz8QOsV1OK/2V1h9 VLpG8lIW/T4+5L5/FNWxkNzgFGwSykFF//ww3p3CaWhm3AW9mVQpvnkEmfRcRnPQqqsOwzni7Zorm Nvzpvcq8A+rS8PGpzID9RQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qBZmW-0004DH-OZ; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 07:44:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:44:26 +0300 Message-Id: <837cry73z9.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Eshel Yaron <me@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <m17cry64mg.fsf@HIDDEN> (bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN) Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line References: <CAFXT+RPvQ9z=GEuA58O0Lo3wZPbNsJuoh7QuZ9vzFN-Akfd44A@HIDDEN> <m17cry64mg.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, zkanfer@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:15:51 +0300 > From: Eshel Yaron via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > How does this relate to the existing `duplicate-line`? There's also copy-from-above-command.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2023 06:15:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 20 02:15:58 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qBUek-0002T2-0W for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 02:15:58 -0400 Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16]:52566 helo=eshelyaron.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1qBUei-0002Su-IC for 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 02:15:56 -0400 From: Eshel Yaron <me@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1687241755; bh=dFawhiSuxXk+QCSBPdWc6b1Z5jZMq1KDxQ/GQEWr5+8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=gXAIz1aqbXnlpJa4k46MKZa+V4AZDgpN4INk/y6vIgEdlxq7029KIFHJo1v9tY62l MgV8fhnPpE9lxrA1yNWfFF+l/xyZlKGMO6tdVWlTeLwKdDsdX0fIN/hm+fk7Sjogph vdg2a1r/rbdveSk9eo8TD2CL1BmIN5PWXUKum4OyuWYwMdhirlKV7J3SOK4ub7rItj s1oOkjvkYMuFbHL6P2NwG1RLGv0r105GC5w3ztBxgsvsSnE2z0WHSjbczQaZqwedfC hLCURQYXuNNX4Ddm8T9C5Kv+rnUIimUMxBB4s+OAZPpE7zJ7w6l68QA8o5OJl+7iUk T5Z5/uR9Gwn1g== To: Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64185: proposal for new function: copy-line In-Reply-To: <CAFXT+RPvQ9z=GEuA58O0Lo3wZPbNsJuoh7QuZ9vzFN-Akfd44A@HIDDEN> (Zachary Kanfer's message of "Tue, 20 Jun 2023 01:07:54 -0400") References: <CAFXT+RPvQ9z=GEuA58O0Lo3wZPbNsJuoh7QuZ9vzFN-Akfd44A@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:15:51 +0300 Message-ID: <m17cry64mg.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64185 Cc: 64185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Just a couple of thoughts: Zachary Kanfer <zkanfer@HIDDEN> writes: > This proposal is a function that copies the line point is on, duplicating it in the buffer. > > I find it useful for both text and code. It makes writing certain types of repetitive things a lot simpler. > How does this relate to the existing `duplicate-line`? > +(defun copy-line (&optional copy-above) > + "Copy the line point is on, placing the copy above the current line. > + > +With prefix argument COPY-ABOVE, put the copy below the current line." > + (interactive "*P") > + (let ((line (buffer-substring-no-properties (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position))) > + (where-in-line (- (point) (line-beginning-position)))) > + (if copy-above > + (progn (beginning-of-line) > + (open-line 1)) > + (progn (end-of-line) > + (insert "\n"))) > + (insert line) > + (goto-char (line-beginning-position)) > + (forward-char where-in-line)) > + (set-transient-map > + (define-keymap "c" (lambda () (interactive) (copy-line copy-above)))) > + (message "press c to copy again?")) I think you can get the same behavior by using `duplicate-line` as follows: (defun esy/copy-line (&optional copy-above) (interactive "*P") (duplicate-line) (unless copy-above (line-move 1)))
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