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As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
class definitions.  Let's let users and major modes make this decision
on a case-by-case basis.

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From 12c4f80e046c3c6dd6996e13f332d0eb41d1f1dd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:14:34 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun

As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
class definitions.  Let's let users and major modes make this decision
on a case-by-case basis.

* lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el (beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line):
Add variable.
(beginning-of-defun): Check variable.
---
 lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el | 16 +++++++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
index b91d56cfb4f..70c296b2c31 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
@@ -335,6 +335,18 @@ kill-backward-up-list
           (insert current-sexp))
       (user-error "Not at a sexp"))))
 
+(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
+  "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' runs `beginning-of-line' at the end.
+
+By default, `beginning-of-defun' jumps to the beginning of the
+line with `beginning-of-line' after finding the start of the
+defun.
+
+For languages where defuns may be indented inside nested
+structures like classes or modules, this behavior may be
+undesirable.  Major modes for such languages can set this
+variable to nil to avoid it.")
+
 (defvar beginning-of-defun-function nil
   "If non-nil, function for `beginning-of-defun-raw' to call.
 This is used to find the beginning of the defun instead of using the
@@ -376,7 +388,9 @@ beginning-of-defun
       (and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
       (push-mark))
   (and (beginning-of-defun-raw arg)
-       (progn (beginning-of-line) t)))
+       (progn (when beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line
+                (beginning-of-line))
+              t)))
 
 (defun beginning-of-defun-raw (&optional arg)
   "Move point to the character that starts a defun.
-- 
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> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:15:35 -0400
> 
> As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
> beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
> I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
> unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
> class definitions.  Let's let users and major modes make this decision
> on a case-by-case basis.

Such optional behavior is fine by me, but is there any evidence enough
people will want it?  Can you gather some feedback about that?

> +(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t

Why not defcustom?

And I would use a shorter name, like beginning-of-defun-go-bol.

> +  "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' runs `beginning-of-line' at the end.

This describes implementation, not the behavior.  It also assumes
everyone knows what exactly beginning-of-line does (think RTL text).

> +By default, `beginning-of-defun' jumps to the beginning of the
> +line with `beginning-of-line' after finding the start of the
> +defun.

I see no reason to tell in the doc string how exactly the function
goes to BOL.  It can even be a problem if at some future point we
decide to change the implementation.

> +For languages where defuns may be indented inside nested
> +structures like classes or modules, this behavior may be
> +undesirable.  Major modes for such languages can set this
> +variable to nil to avoid it.")

Not sure we should leave this to major modes and not to the individual
users.

Thanks.

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On 7/11/2023 11:50 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Such optional behavior is fine by me, but is there any evidence enough
> people will want it?  Can you gather some feedback about that?

For what it's worth, I'd probably use this.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:15:35 -0400
>> 
>> As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
>> beginning-of-defun is undesirable in some languages and major modes.
>> I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also arguably
>> unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be indented inside
>> class definitions.  Let's let users and major modes make this decision
>> on a case-by-case basis.
>
> Such optional behavior is fine by me, but is there any evidence enough
> people will want it?  Can you gather some feedback about that?

Users at my site have expressed a preference for this (including me,
once I thought about it enough to realize I don't like the default
behavior).  And Jim Porter just mentioned that they would prefer this
too.

>> +(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
>
> Why not defcustom?
>
> And I would use a shorter name, like beginning-of-defun-go-bol.

Can do.

>> +  "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' runs `beginning-of-line' at the end.
>
> This describes implementation, not the behavior.  It also assumes
> everyone knows what exactly beginning-of-line does (think RTL text).
>
>> +By default, `beginning-of-defun' jumps to the beginning of the
>> +line with `beginning-of-line' after finding the start of the
>> +defun.
>
> I see no reason to tell in the doc string how exactly the function
> goes to BOL.  It can even be a problem if at some future point we
> decide to change the implementation.

Can do.

>> +For languages where defuns may be indented inside nested
>> +structures like classes or modules, this behavior may be
>> +undesirable.  Major modes for such languages can set this
>> +variable to nil to avoid it.")
>
> Not sure we should leave this to major modes and not to the individual
> users.
>
> Thanks.

Sure, I'm fine with having it be a defcustom that users can set.

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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:14:34 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun

As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
beginning-of-defun may be undesirable in some languages and major
modes.  I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also
arguably unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be
indented inside class definitions.  Let's let the user make this
decision.

* lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el (beginning-of-defun-go-bol): Add defcustom.
(beginning-of-defun): Check beginning-of-defun-go-bol.
---
 lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el | 20 ++++++++++++++++----
 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
index b91d56cfb4f..e5b024b19a6 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el
@@ -335,6 +335,17 @@ kill-backward-up-list
           (insert current-sexp))
       (user-error "Not at a sexp"))))
 
+(defcustom beginning-of-defun-go-bol t
+  "If non-nil, `beginning-of-defun' moves to beginning of line.
+
+By default, `beginning-of-defun' point moves to the beginning of
+the line where a defun starts.  For languages where defuns may be
+indented inside nested structures like classes or modules, this
+behavior may be undesirable."
+  :type '(choice (const :tag "Don't go to BOL in beginning-of-defun" nil)
+                 (const :tag "Go to BOL in beginning-of-defun" t))
+  :group 'lisp)
+
 (defvar beginning-of-defun-function nil
   "If non-nil, function for `beginning-of-defun-raw' to call.
 This is used to find the beginning of the defun instead of using the
@@ -367,16 +378,17 @@ beginning-of-defun
 value is called as a function, with argument ARG, to find the
 defun's beginning.
 
-Regardless of the values of `defun-prompt-regexp' and
-`beginning-of-defun-function', point always moves to the
-beginning of the line whenever the search is successful."
+If `beginning-of-defun-go-bol' is non-nil, point moves to the
+beginning of the line if the search is successful."
   (interactive "^p")
   (or (not (eq this-command 'beginning-of-defun))
       (eq last-command 'beginning-of-defun)
       (and transient-mark-mode mark-active)
       (push-mark))
   (and (beginning-of-defun-raw arg)
-       (progn (beginning-of-line) t)))
+       (progn (when beginning-of-defun-go-bol
+                (beginning-of-line))
+              t)))
 
 (defun beginning-of-defun-raw (&optional arg)
   "Move point to the character that starts a defun.
-- 
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> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 64574 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:57:50 -0400
> 
> Revised patch:

Thanks.  Please add a NEWS entry, and we can install this then.

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Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> writes:

> Users at my site have expressed a preference for this (including me,
> once I thought about it enough to realize I don't like the default
> behavior).  And Jim Porter just mentioned that they would prefer this
> too.

I'd use it too.

>>> +(defvar beginning-of-defun-go-beginning-of-line t
>>
>> Why not defcustom?
>>
>> And I would use a shorter name, like beginning-of-defun-go-bol.
>
> Can do.

Perhaps `beginning-of-defun-jumps-to-bol'?

>>From be03d6e994303c3f32d676194f6f31e89917013e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:14:34 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] Support not jumping to bol in beginning-of-defun
>
> As mentioned in the commit, this default behavior by
> beginning-of-defun may be undesirable in some languages and major
> modes.  I'm thinking of OCaml in particular here, but it's also
> arguably unwanted in Python and C++ as well, where defs may be
> indented inside class definitions.  Let's let the user make this
> decision.

Your patch still lacks a NEWS item before it can be installed.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 64574 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:57:50 -0400
>>
>> Revised patch:
>
> Thanks.  Please add a NEWS entry, and we can install this then.

Actually, thinking about this, we use this function not just as a
command, but also in a lot of code that is built on the assumption that
point moves to point zero.

So wouldn't installing this, as proposed, risk leading to a lot of
things breaking?

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