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Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN>, 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:36:16 -0700
>>
>> > By "its own function" I meant that we implement it in Emacs, not that
>> > you implement it in your personal customizations.
>>
>> I see that the definition of number-at-point includes two magic regexps,
>> one matching hex numbers and another matching decimal numbers. Would it
>> make sense to move those regexps into defconsts, and then create a new
>> function forward-number which uses those new constants?
>
> That's probably one idea, yes. (But note that those regexps don't
> support numbers like "1.0e2".)
I agree that the regexp solution is not ideal.
> Another idea is to define a special-purpose syntax table and use that
> with forward-word.
Did you have something like this in mind?
(defvar number-syntax-table
(let ((st (make-syntax-table)))
(modify-syntax-entry ?. "w " st)
;; ?- and ?+ could indicate the sign at the beginning of a number or
;; they could indicate the sign of an exponent like 1.5e-6
(modify-syntax-entry ?- "w " st)
(modify-syntax-entry ?+ "w " st)
;; ?# acts as a prefix for integers in bases other than 10.
(modify-syntax-entry ?# "w " st)
st)
"Syntax table used to detect word boundaries for numbers.")
(defun forward-number (&optional n)
(interactive)
(with-syntax-table number-syntax-table
(forward-word-strictly n)))
(defun backward-number (&optional n)
(interactive)
(with-syntax-table number-syntax-table
(forward-word-strictly n)))
;; We don't need the following two lines, since forward-thing uses
;; intern-soft to get these function names anyway.
(put 'number 'forward-op 'forward-number)
(put 'number 'beginning-op 'backward-number)
What would we use for end-op? Is it necessary?
Also I notice that the current implementation of number-at-point fails
to recognize the following as a single number:
-1.5e+6
Could we do something like:
(defun number-at-point (&optional no-properties)
(with-syntax-table number-syntax-table
(word-at-point no-properties)))
(put 'number 'thing-at-point 'number-at-point)
I'd appreciate feedback on the syntax table above. It incorrectly
recognizes some non-number strings as numbers:
a-a+a-
#abc#abc
> Yet another idea is to use 'read', since the Lisp reader already knows
> how to read numbers.
Sounds interesting! I'm not sure how to approach a solution like that.
How would you let the Lisp reader know where to start and stop reading?
Joseph
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2023 03:39:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 22 23:39:31 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37751 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qNPwR-0003z0-N8 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:31 -0400 Received: from out-13.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.13]:53773) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <joseph@HIDDEN>) id 1qNPwP-0003ys-5N for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:30 -0400 References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83bkg5banh.fsf@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=breatheoutbreathe.in; s=key1; t=1690083567; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=SsmITEOMtAggqwUmnbkT5E+azRsYPPN9KX9nLoNPbBc=; b=kp1b9WBwGaUrhOG/wxzXjZySgmCRFIdUpK6tIzOhzEO2BseDHFqj8Zs6lChca6OIQ0cdmZ pXMvuP/9//50PayxUm7SwhLMud1B/cPXP1LqgpyzS2jVGOwol0PukPvy4Sm6KkdvEXycKL zxddJ6hfYV5ifjndzRyB3DLeqZYx8is= X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:36:16 -0700 In-reply-to: <83bkg5banh.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <87pm4j9tzm.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > By "its own function" I meant that we implement it in Emacs, not that > you implement it in your personal customizations. I see that the definition of number-at-point includes two magic regexps, one matching hex numbers and another matching decimal numbers. Would it make sense to move those regexps into defconsts, and then create a new function forward-number which uses those new constants? Joseph
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Would it make sense = if > > > (forward-thing 'number) temporarily used a customized synatx table? > > > > It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a > > kludge. > > To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge. It had been added by Lars when fixing Bug#54555 "number is not an accepted value for THING in bounds-of-thing-at-point" last year. Probably just not being aware of this problem with the decimal point. So: yes, a klugde, it's too simple. Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 14:15:05 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 21 10:15:05 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qMquP-00038I-EJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:15:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMquL-00037R-K4 for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:15:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMquF-0002b8-FY; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:14:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=QVv3mqMm5eBy68VLZxWbJWli635P0mv4JjTSrESCudc=; b=Oo1z4MTqu02aa0DfyZU8 BxY3+qiIe66KilADpwYixX55iefOJ6bdpJBicct3PcWRTr/pZ89cemlHYeL7tqNwgoeihXNQ5Nzmq mIgkV1O60k41Ox14Q6ArQTInr2y8eMTSjCmz7++qEAjR0+p+Q/iXOvdE/aBrx+qSXvsa2A72yRwOA R1m0ZEwZFslG+YfZrynYZeGtMZm9aofVZAx7xuk+NI1kM3uvLcH5naj4ScnlIB1AUHbKn38tNVeuo Thy0VjaOfHPBl5KuskIFg6HJYs2bp5wnUsghupkBOFPLgR4wGWVWBWV3YkhnCInWo3Laj59CykVKa 0OK3DdsEtpngTg==; Received: from [2600:1700:5650:f790::22] (helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMquA-0008GV-19; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:14:51 -0400 From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers In-Reply-To: <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:52:06 +0300") References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Fri, Jul 21 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a >> kludge. > > To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge. I am not familiar with how forward-thing is implemented. A dedicated function has been my personal solution for this problem that has been serving me well for many years. So one can rephrase: How common a problem is this that it may (not?) justify a solution in the standard emacs code?
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 12:51:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 21 08:51:39 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60861 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qMpbe-00005b-Kc for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49200) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpbc-000059-4q for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpbW-0006yl-Sy; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=xdOGMhtbJzGV7+xwed2IpF59VFKLX0GYuh/+kW9jmnI=; b=TknpVzH1J7Y2 XedHlVVN+XTeHaO0tMMfMcZL5vjSisjrriNtJtTFaKgOSIjubREfuvp5fWxB77s3EUTSEPXjnlqQ/ 1DfqBIId2m9dmpFy0uPBrar5BK0FB8G+ARpy5BTCESJEZpUCN5FOBjvodIxidV+AAwNL3fw9dRTws QwmY4Po0TBlJRGE9O/89LAFBs2oroZdl1X+0L6+vLTBA0s7Hm3ut56yw7N5EMguFyWUQsN96VaDAS P7xbowXMeKEwwC2Oqlyhz5KLUIjOiUK+o4a3z1MEJaGbFKH9E3u+QBi/IcK+NKMJHtPz/QKXuDLci TImlPifzbNNtvV8YvcqHEw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpbW-00070r-Bl; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:52:06 +0300 Message-Id: <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: winkler@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:48:07 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:48:07 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> > > Cc: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>, 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 07:28:29 -0500 > > > > On Thu, Jul 20 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> forward-word doesn't seem to be the correct forward-op for numbers. > > > > > > That depends on the buffer's syntax table, though. > > > > I am frequently running into similar problems when I deal with numbers, > > but the syntax table is not designed for this. Would it make sense if > > (forward-thing 'number) temporarily used a customized synatx table? > > It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a > kludge. To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge.
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From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>
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Subject: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:19:27 -0700
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Hello,
Given the following number with point at =E2=98=85:
=E2=98=8512.34
number-at-point correctly returns "12.34".
However,(forward-thing 'number) puts point just before the period:
12=E2=98=85.34
while I'd expect:
12.34=E2=98=85
(get 'number 'forward-op)
=E2=87=92 forward-word
forward-word doesn't seem to be the correct forward-op for numbers.
Joseph
Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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