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> Anyway, I was just brain-storming. A real solution will need more
> thought and more testing. Perhaps Stefan (CC'ed) has some ideas or
> inputs.
FWIW, I've always found the `thingatpt.el` library to be ..hmm.. wobbly?
I'd welcome someone investing time to straighten it up (maybe
starting by extending it so it can return "thing around region" and use
that as the basis for "at point").
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN>, 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:36:16 -0700
>>
>> > By "its own function" I meant that we implement it in Emacs, not that
>> > you implement it in your personal customizations.
>>
>> I see that the definition of number-at-point includes two magic regexps,
>> one matching hex numbers and another matching decimal numbers. Would it
>> make sense to move those regexps into defconsts, and then create a new
>> function forward-number which uses those new constants?
>
> That's probably one idea, yes. (But note that those regexps don't
> support numbers like "1.0e2".)
I agree that the regexp solution is not ideal.
> Another idea is to define a special-purpose syntax table and use that
> with forward-word.
Did you have something like this in mind?
(defvar number-syntax-table
(let ((st (make-syntax-table)))
(modify-syntax-entry ?. "w " st)
;; ?- and ?+ could indicate the sign at the beginning of a number or
;; they could indicate the sign of an exponent like 1.5e-6
(modify-syntax-entry ?- "w " st)
(modify-syntax-entry ?+ "w " st)
;; ?# acts as a prefix for integers in bases other than 10.
(modify-syntax-entry ?# "w " st)
st)
"Syntax table used to detect word boundaries for numbers.")
(defun forward-number (&optional n)
(interactive)
(with-syntax-table number-syntax-table
(forward-word-strictly n)))
(defun backward-number (&optional n)
(interactive)
(with-syntax-table number-syntax-table
(forward-word-strictly n)))
;; We don't need the following two lines, since forward-thing uses
;; intern-soft to get these function names anyway.
(put 'number 'forward-op 'forward-number)
(put 'number 'beginning-op 'backward-number)
What would we use for end-op? Is it necessary?
Also I notice that the current implementation of number-at-point fails
to recognize the following as a single number:
-1.5e+6
Could we do something like:
(defun number-at-point (&optional no-properties)
(with-syntax-table number-syntax-table
(word-at-point no-properties)))
(put 'number 'thing-at-point 'number-at-point)
I'd appreciate feedback on the syntax table above. It incorrectly
recognizes some non-number strings as numbers:
a-a+a-
#abc#abc
> Yet another idea is to use 'read', since the Lisp reader already knows
> how to read numbers.
Sounds interesting! I'm not sure how to approach a solution like that.
How would you let the Lisp reader know where to start and stop reading?
Joseph
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2023 05:33:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 23 01:33:27 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qNRih-000755-5X for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:33:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qNRif-00074t-JS for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:33:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qNRia-0005N2-0c; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:33:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ELtdUpjw6ebHAg2y5P/+rjfYNSHe0OzYCoFagqclsNg=; b=h9xHEBzUKo7s oyry2slkWl5npQevyDBuXobTLGBaIRzrSDA4JAjio6uL8UJolk5YdLDJbiQhsxUmgrhfv+/eGC3CA NzmLuOsMBzAuWN+wgkZlKDB67yePfHkaVcgUvpYm47Xz9toAVtlJ5NEG1yQa+SwGvJmczi+T8xOPM mWv8HDaJmMh6kmQqQlqGnOzvY+WPUb6aNcqegxMNKLd2s2KhBM/km5/yW5JIxIs1CHKGUS9mysP1d IU6WOrUBmWt8wuFbTZjDS2GPySXlNqifghoLvAwy2mhj82S0ldoJUbnD0b+IErDOZ4GoaAPtBwe+S o9M7FH1ZKHXosz7Hzs9Uug==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qNRiZ-0008Kl-52; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:33:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 08:33:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83mszn6vjs.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87pm4j9tzm.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Joseph Turner on Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:36:16 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83bkg5banh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pm4j9tzm.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, winkler@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> > Cc: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN>, 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:36:16 -0700 > > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > By "its own function" I meant that we implement it in Emacs, not that > > you implement it in your personal customizations. > > I see that the definition of number-at-point includes two magic regexps, > one matching hex numbers and another matching decimal numbers. Would it > make sense to move those regexps into defconsts, and then create a new > function forward-number which uses those new constants? That's probably one idea, yes. (But note that those regexps don't support numbers like "1.0e2".) Another idea is to define a special-purpose syntax table and use that with forward-word. Yet another idea is to use 'read', since the Lisp reader already knows how to read numbers. And there probably are other ideas as well.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2023 03:39:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 22 23:39:31 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37751 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qNPwR-0003z0-N8 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:31 -0400 Received: from out-13.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.13]:53773) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <joseph@HIDDEN>) id 1qNPwP-0003ys-5N for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:39:30 -0400 References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83bkg5banh.fsf@HIDDEN> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=breatheoutbreathe.in; s=key1; t=1690083567; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=SsmITEOMtAggqwUmnbkT5E+azRsYPPN9KX9nLoNPbBc=; b=kp1b9WBwGaUrhOG/wxzXjZySgmCRFIdUpK6tIzOhzEO2BseDHFqj8Zs6lChca6OIQ0cdmZ pXMvuP/9//50PayxUm7SwhLMud1B/cPXP1LqgpyzS2jVGOwol0PukPvy4Sm6KkdvEXycKL zxddJ6hfYV5ifjndzRyB3DLeqZYx8is= X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@HIDDEN and include these headers. From: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:36:16 -0700 In-reply-to: <83bkg5banh.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <87pm4j9tzm.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > By "its own function" I meant that we implement it in Emacs, not that > you implement it in your personal customizations. I see that the definition of number-at-point includes two magic regexps, one matching hex numbers and another matching decimal numbers. Would it make sense to move those regexps into defconsts, and then create a new function forward-number which uses those new constants? Joseph
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Would it make sense = if > > > (forward-thing 'number) temporarily used a customized synatx table? > > > > It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a > > kludge. > > To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge. It had been added by Lars when fixing Bug#54555 "number is not an accepted value for THING in bounds-of-thing-at-point" last year. Probably just not being aware of this problem with the decimal point. So: yes, a klugde, it's too simple. Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 14:29:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 21 10:29:19 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qMr8A-0003UL-VF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:29:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33658) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMr89-0003U9-6D for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:29:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMr83-00073W-HZ; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:29:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=R74q7CYiVKolaPa2gYcnWZTcp926cTCnnvXwYoj1Yg4=; b=hKFXECVD55h4 xoZ8Zv8QLp/gH3tHFnKnJNX2/bG9aprkeAfRTcWBAz/mCWIjJc2mvT0qz9th6pOC03/RwcRZ+RWrA xfxgCFTImCOBhvwG79iQkCPDNVAT7eKmUAFx0J/fPvA+aOBdPbHCteSTkQQDakD/5dCZXf+pwJ8uG 5MiEQRmyzcF2v8LHoW/q3xgFvMSPBIkvPgEcdTWVnftJwj1rdsmf8TXlNtaOT0dqH8ZcKPoTq0N8R IW7Zh2Q02PO0tgT/OafUySy+ghswrkE44axMEQuv0L54wPE+/27P4BekFTdabARhifwKeAJoiUsjS KAKJwg+NhYlHRGC038+InA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMr7u-0002hG-Sz; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:29:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 17:29:38 +0300 Message-Id: <83bkg5banh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Roland Winkler on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:14:48 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> > Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:14:48 -0500 > > On Fri, Jul 21 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a > >> kludge. > > > > To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge. > > I am not familiar with how forward-thing is implemented. A dedicated > function has been my personal solution for this problem that has been > serving me well for many years. So one can rephrase: How common a > problem is this that it may (not?) justify a solution in the standard > emacs code? By "its own function" I meant that we implement it in Emacs, not that you implement it in your personal customizations.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 14:15:05 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 21 10:15:05 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qMquP-00038I-EJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:15:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMquL-00037R-K4 for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:15:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMquF-0002b8-FY; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:14:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=QVv3mqMm5eBy68VLZxWbJWli635P0mv4JjTSrESCudc=; b=Oo1z4MTqu02aa0DfyZU8 BxY3+qiIe66KilADpwYixX55iefOJ6bdpJBicct3PcWRTr/pZ89cemlHYeL7tqNwgoeihXNQ5Nzmq mIgkV1O60k41Ox14Q6ArQTInr2y8eMTSjCmz7++qEAjR0+p+Q/iXOvdE/aBrx+qSXvsa2A72yRwOA R1m0ZEwZFslG+YfZrynYZeGtMZm9aofVZAx7xuk+NI1kM3uvLcH5naj4ScnlIB1AUHbKn38tNVeuo Thy0VjaOfHPBl5KuskIFg6HJYs2bp5wnUsghupkBOFPLgR4wGWVWBWV3YkhnCInWo3Laj59CykVKa 0OK3DdsEtpngTg==; Received: from [2600:1700:5650:f790::22] (helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMquA-0008GV-19; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:14:51 -0400 From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers In-Reply-To: <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:52:06 +0300") References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: <878rb94ahz.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Fri, Jul 21 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a >> kludge. > > To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge. I am not familiar with how forward-thing is implemented. A dedicated function has been my personal solution for this problem that has been serving me well for many years. So one can rephrase: How common a problem is this that it may (not?) justify a solution in the standard emacs code?
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 12:51:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 21 08:51:39 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60861 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qMpbe-00005b-Kc for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49200) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpbc-000059-4q for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpbW-0006yl-Sy; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=xdOGMhtbJzGV7+xwed2IpF59VFKLX0GYuh/+kW9jmnI=; b=TknpVzH1J7Y2 XedHlVVN+XTeHaO0tMMfMcZL5vjSisjrriNtJtTFaKgOSIjubREfuvp5fWxB77s3EUTSEPXjnlqQ/ 1DfqBIId2m9dmpFy0uPBrar5BK0FB8G+ARpy5BTCESJEZpUCN5FOBjvodIxidV+AAwNL3fw9dRTws QwmY4Po0TBlJRGE9O/89LAFBs2oroZdl1X+0L6+vLTBA0s7Hm3ut56yw7N5EMguFyWUQsN96VaDAS P7xbowXMeKEwwC2Oqlyhz5KLUIjOiUK+o4a3z1MEJaGbFKH9E3u+QBi/IcK+NKMJHtPz/QKXuDLci TImlPifzbNNtvV8YvcqHEw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpbW-00070r-Bl; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:51:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:52:06 +0300 Message-Id: <83r0p1zatl.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: winkler@HIDDEN In-Reply-To: <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:48:07 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tttxzb08.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joseph@HIDDEN > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:48:07 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> > > Cc: Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN>, 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 07:28:29 -0500 > > > > On Thu, Jul 20 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> forward-word doesn't seem to be the correct forward-op for numbers. > > > > > > That depends on the buffer's syntax table, though. > > > > I am frequently running into similar problems when I deal with numbers, > > but the syntax table is not designed for this. Would it make sense if > > (forward-thing 'number) temporarily used a customized synatx table? > > It should use its own function, if you ask me. forward-word is a > kludge. To clarify: I meant that using forward-word in this case is a kludge.
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Full text available.Received: (at 64739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2023 12:28:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 21 08:28:38 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qMpFO-0007o6-JK for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:28:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52114) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpFL-0007ns-GU for 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:28:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpFG-0001DH-2a; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:28:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=9odZXQ6BYu/EtxPigFYyUJQahUMReHIhOaf54qdk8hA=; b=a4f5DYjgZ9ujeyOdySDe fdzPj2D4c5VX/i+J3SqX1SsGzTi6+UrhAaMvxZelHWtJGmqVGwfe90lg7FzfgoP6lekybOu3mrPd8 eGh4z9MTVpzdu2PfUi/dqYv6qpD8fZedBkkCwLX84AKgxmxLI2+bTfm7Pb5DZIcGRlzR2RZ9e7UvI eQdvpGO3JoNDRNEh+xOWuOP2i3uNFTnMIvsNz0+hfPHxLh75RTa+y++d+8dakf8LU5hd9hOISzIJD zcDJ4gpgiMr6g0GQiXJ1zbULv5pX540D60Y1etTyGrMK/159Ewa4hqvEt0VcRW4TQLO9Rbo7xXnWS +9xH6B/vNescuQ==; Received: from [2600:1700:5650:f790::22] (helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <winkler@HIDDEN>) id 1qMpFF-0001wp-OW; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:28:29 -0400 From: Roland Winkler <winkler@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#64739: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers In-Reply-To: <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 20 Jul 2023 09:39:21 +0300") References: <87cz0n6qvp.fsf@HIDDEN> <831qh33x46.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 07:28:29 -0500 Message-ID: <87o7k54ff6.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64739 Cc: 64739 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Joseph Turner <joseph@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Thu, Jul 20 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> forward-word doesn't seem to be the correct forward-op for numbers. > > That depends on the buffer's syntax table, though. I am frequently running into similar problems when I deal with numbers, but the syntax table is not designed for this. Would it make sense if (forward-thing 'number) temporarily used a customized synatx table?
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Subject: (forward-thing 'number) doesn't work with decimal numbers
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Hello,
Given the following number with point at =E2=98=85:
=E2=98=8512.34
number-at-point correctly returns "12.34".
However,(forward-thing 'number) puts point just before the period:
12=E2=98=85.34
while I'd expect:
12.34=E2=98=85
(get 'number 'forward-op)
=E2=87=92 forward-word
forward-word doesn't seem to be the correct forward-op for numbers.
Joseph
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