X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#64987: Blind people unable to install Guix System Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6?= <iyzsong@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 10:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.64987.B.169088580111937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 64987 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Simen =?UTF-8?Q?Endsj=C3=B8?= <simendsjo@HIDDEN> Cc: 64987 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, help-guix@HIDDEN X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, help-guix@HIDDEN Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.169088580111937 (code B ref -1); Tue, 01 Aug 2023 10:30:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2023 10:30:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qQmdc-00036T-Oo for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; 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Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [local]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 20851d3b; Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:29:25 +0000 (UTC) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6?= <iyzsong@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87v8e0q7y9.fsf@HIDDEN> ("Simen =?UTF-8?Q?Endsj=C3=B8?="'s message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2023 19:57:08 +0200") References: <87v8e0q7y9.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 18:29:25 +0800 Message-ID: <87pm47ys1m.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.136.28; envelope-from=iyzsong@HIDDEN; helo=mail.envs.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Simen Endsj=C3=B8 <simendsjo@HIDDEN> writes: > It was brought to my attention that blind people runs into problems insta= lling > Guix System, while Debian and Arch have solved this better. > > The problem is outlined by the user k.g.roberts, ref > <https://im-in.space/@bubstance/110805249670354167>: > > The installer for Guix System 1.4.0 is basically the same as I reme= mber it from > a few years ago; boots almost immediately into an ncurses menu for = locale > selection and it takes another few screens to get to the option for= a shell. No > other assistive technologies built into the installer itself outsid= e of what=E2=80=99s > in the kernel, so a blind installation is doable over a remote conn= ection after > that point, but would likely be a hassle to get going without addit= ional help > from a sighted person. > > Dave Dude mention a solution, ref <https://4bear.com/@wx1g/11080649734373= 9940>: > > They=E2=80=99d need to add a console screen reader, like Fenrir or = ESpeakup to the > installation image, then have something to type, on the boot comman= d line, to > start the reader. Debian has done this, on its installation images = for a long > time. Arch now does something like this, too. Thanks for looking in= to this! > > I=E2=80=99m not the right person to do something like this, just thought = I should report > it in case it=E2=80=99s easy to fix. Hello, I CC this email to bug-guix to open an issue now. Thank you for the report!
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