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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following error that I am reporting appears in emacs-27.2, emacs-28.2, and emacs-29.2. This error report is written under the assumption that the reader is familiar with Quail and with Japanese syllabary. When using (set-language-environment "Japanese") and (set-input-method "japanese") with Quail, when we type romaji, the displayed text is correctly converted to hiragana. If we want to convert the hiragana to katakana, we just follow the hiragana with "K", and the text display is correctly toggled to katakana. Typing "K" again will correctly toggle back to hiragana. In most cases, this indeed works correctly. For example, typing "hoteru" correctly yields the hiragana "=E3=81=BB=E3=81=A6=E3=82=8B", and then following that with "K= " switches it correctly to the katakana "=E3=83=9B=E3=83=86=E3=83=AB". And then following that again with "K" corre= ctly toggles it back to "=E3=81=BB=E3=81=A6=E3=82=8B". However, when the word contains an embedded hyphen, the "K" toggling does not work properly. For example, typing "ko-to" correctly yields the hiragana "=E3=81=93=E3=83= =BC=E3=81=A8", and then typing "K" correctly converts it to the katakana "=E3=82=B3=E3=83=BC=E3=83=88". But th= en, if I type "K" again, the word does not get converted back to hiragana, and the katakana form remains. This erroneous behavior occurs with all katakana text which contains one or more embedded hyphens. The existence of a hyphen anywhere in the text prevents that text from being toggled from katakana to hiragana when "K" is typed. Can anyone suggest a way that this incorrect behavior can be fixed? Thank you in advance. --=20 hippoman@HIDDEN Take a hippopotamus to lunch today. .---------, 0__0 / ( oo'---, / oo\ ,\ | | \ ,=3D__/ \ / / /------| /| |__|-' |__|' --00000000000032fcca0604d0fe33 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e"><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" = data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><pre class=3D"gmail-moz= -quote-pre">The following error that I am reporting appears in emacs-27.2, = emacs-28.2, and emacs-29.2. This <span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">error re= port</span> is written under the assumption that the reader is familiar wit= h Quail<br>and with<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monos= pace"> </span>Japanese syllabary. When using <span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"></= span>(set-language-environment "Japanese") and (set-input-method = "japanese") with Quail,<br>when we type romaji, the displayed tex= t is correctly converted to hiragana. If we want to<br>convert the hiragana= to katakana, we just follow the hiragana with "K", and the text = display<br>is correctly toggled to katakana. Typing "K" again wil= l correctly toggle back to hiragana. In most cases, this indeed works correctly. For example, typing "hoter= u" correctly yields<br>the hiragana "=E3=81=BB=E3=81=A6=E3=82=8B&= quot;, and then following that with "K" switches it correctly to = the katakana<br>"=E3=83=9B=E3=83=86=E3=83=AB". And then following= that again with "K" correctly toggles it back to "=E3=81=BB= =E3=81=A6=E3=82=8B". However, when the word contains an embedded hyphen, the "K" toggl= ing does not work properly. For example, typing "ko-to" correctly yields the hiragana "= =E3=81=93=E3=83=BC=E3=81=A8", and then typing "K"<br>correct= ly converts it to the katakana "=E3=82=B3=E3=83=BC=E3=83=88"<span= class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"></span>. But then,= if I type "K" again, the word does<br>not get converted back to = hiragana, and the katakana form remains. This erroneous behavior occurs with all katakana text which contains one or= more embedded<br>hyphens. The existence of a hyphen anywhere in the text p= revents that text from being<br>toggled from katakana to hiragana when &quo= t;K" is typed. Can anyone suggest a way that this incorrect behavior can be fixed? Thank you in advance. </pre><div><span style=3D"font-family:monospace">-- <br>=C2=A0<a href=3D"ma= ilto:hippoman@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">hippoman@HIDDEN</a><br>=C2=A0= Take a hippopotamus to lunch today.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-fa= mily:monospace"><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 .---------, 0__0<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 /= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (=C2=A0 oo'= ;---,<br>=C2=A0 /=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 oo\<br>=C2=A0,\= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 |<br>=C2=A0| \=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ,=3D__/<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 \=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /=C2=A0 = /------|=C2=A0 /|<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 |__|-'=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 |__|&#= 39;<br></span><br></div></div></div></div></div> --00000000000032fcca0604d0fe33--
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#65816: 27.2, 28.2, 29.2; Quail-based Japanese conversion error Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 06:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.65816.B65816.169415579913423 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65816 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Hippo Man <hippoman@HIDDEN> Cc: 65816 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65816-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B65816.169415579913423 (code B ref 65816); Fri, 08 Sep 2023 06:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 65816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 06:49:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qeVJX-0003UO-HA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 02:49:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qeVJV-0003U8-QN; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 02:49:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qeVJO-0003pq-B1; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 02:49:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=IYLDcZ+97ma3aCDG4qhGLzgUJ3u/utRb6WINHx1qsIA=; b=hPbxPAe+6fflTAlCfnAZ ZfaTZIjG7N+c6LLrMKj/mbrMKcHefAedhKis2RHhl2bWN6C7QXgLE3ABng7L/K4fG1rVUFhyislkR CffzdZHdExDGdN0vYrjA0VssGN62pYZGL/KLk4U1i2T5ypKkK+SLuyclYSYEuYfvAqSdzRmB7rwfh /gSHs73th/zTh95toYBSYSonWWA+CKBRTnM87D09RR1qHPkGxJwNSLyz7z9h5CR3y8iCSwSCmQnOP pSztCpJoU8O8+1FLCmL1dqXJrJKnwchYNzOsQ2MhHe1MaPWUe9JNNWViIJa6yNVvniGnC0XcEBsaC YQWgnCo65Kmyng==; Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 09:49:38 +0300 Message-Id: <83edj9xipp.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAK1LP6=eOLBhLYQ=YLckgmmnuDakH4THqxerTBfk+i6EVxyEug@HIDDEN> (message from Hippo Man on Thu, 7 Sep 2023 23:58:33 -0400) References: <CAK1LP6=eOLBhLYQ=YLckgmmnuDakH4THqxerTBfk+i6EVxyEug@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) merge 65816 65815 thanks > From: Hippo Man <hippoman@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 23:58:33 -0400 > > The following error that I am reporting appears in emacs-27.2, emacs-28.2, and emacs-29.2. > > This error report is written under the assumption that the reader is familiar with Quail > and with Japanese syllabary. > > When using (set-language-environment "Japanese") and (set-input-method "japanese") with Quail, > when we type romaji, the displayed text is correctly converted to hiragana. If we want to > convert the hiragana to katakana, we just follow the hiragana with "K", and the text display > is correctly toggled to katakana. Typing "K" again will correctly toggle back to hiragana. > > In most cases, this indeed works correctly. For example, typing "hoteru" correctly yields > the hiragana "ほてる", and then following that with "K" switches it correctly to the katakana > "ホテル". And then following that again with "K" correctly toggles it back to "ほてる". > > However, when the word contains an embedded hyphen, the "K" toggling does not work properly. > > For example, typing "ko-to" correctly yields the hiragana "こーと", and then typing "K" > correctly converts it to the katakana "コート". But then, if I type "K" again, the word does > not get converted back to hiragana, and the katakana form remains. > > This erroneous behavior occurs with all katakana text which contains one or more embedded > hyphens. The existence of a hyphen anywhere in the text prevents that text from being > toggled from katakana to hiragana when "K" is typed. > > Can anyone suggest a way that this incorrect behavior can be fixed? You have reported 10 minutes ago an identical bug report with a different email address. I'm merging the two bugs.
Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 06:50:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 08 02:50:00 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42042 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qeVJX-0003UR-RR for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 02:50:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qeVJV-0003U8-QN; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 02:49:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1qeVJO-0003pq-B1; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 02:49:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=IYLDcZ+97ma3aCDG4qhGLzgUJ3u/utRb6WINHx1qsIA=; b=hPbxPAe+6fflTAlCfnAZ ZfaTZIjG7N+c6LLrMKj/mbrMKcHefAedhKis2RHhl2bWN6C7QXgLE3ABng7L/K4fG1rVUFhyislkR CffzdZHdExDGdN0vYrjA0VssGN62pYZGL/KLk4U1i2T5ypKkK+SLuyclYSYEuYfvAqSdzRmB7rwfh /gSHs73th/zTh95toYBSYSonWWA+CKBRTnM87D09RR1qHPkGxJwNSLyz7z9h5CR3y8iCSwSCmQnOP pSztCpJoU8O8+1FLCmL1dqXJrJKnwchYNzOsQ2MhHe1MaPWUe9JNNWViIJa6yNVvniGnC0XcEBsaC YQWgnCo65Kmyng==; Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 09:49:38 +0300 Message-Id: <83edj9xipp.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Hippo Man <hippoman@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAK1LP6=eOLBhLYQ=YLckgmmnuDakH4THqxerTBfk+i6EVxyEug@HIDDEN> (message from Hippo Man on Thu, 7 Sep 2023 23:58:33 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#65816: 27.2, 28.2, 29.2; Quail-based Japanese conversion error References: <CAK1LP6=eOLBhLYQ=YLckgmmnuDakH4THqxerTBfk+i6EVxyEug@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 65816 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) merge 65816 65815 thanks > From: Hippo Man <hippoman@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 23:58:33 -0400 > > The following error that I am reporting appears in emacs-27.2, emacs-28.2, and emacs-29.2. > > This error report is written under the assumption that the reader is familiar with Quail > and with Japanese syllabary. > > When using (set-language-environment "Japanese") and (set-input-method "japanese") with Quail, > when we type romaji, the displayed text is correctly converted to hiragana. If we want to > convert the hiragana to katakana, we just follow the hiragana with "K", and the text display > is correctly toggled to katakana. Typing "K" again will correctly toggle back to hiragana. > > In most cases, this indeed works correctly. For example, typing "hoteru" correctly yields > the hiragana "ほてる", and then following that with "K" switches it correctly to the katakana > "ホテル". And then following that again with "K" correctly toggles it back to "ほてる". > > However, when the word contains an embedded hyphen, the "K" toggling does not work properly. > > For example, typing "ko-to" correctly yields the hiragana "こーと", and then typing "K" > correctly converts it to the katakana "コート". But then, if I type "K" again, the word does > not get converted back to hiragana, and the katakana form remains. > > This erroneous behavior occurs with all katakana text which contains one or more embedded > hyphens. The existence of a hyphen anywhere in the text prevents that text from being > toggled from katakana to hiragana when "K" is typed. > > Can anyone suggest a way that this incorrect behavior can be fixed? You have reported 10 minutes ago an identical bug report with a different email address. I'm merging the two bugs.
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