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> ~/emacs/master/ > ls -l
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 gerd admin 377687 Sep 17 16:36
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 gerd admin 1467107 Sep 17 16:38
> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resource
Hmm... shouldn't there be a `loaddefs.elc` file in there?
Stefan
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>> Any idea why a call to 'documentation' loads loaddefs? Did you indeed
>> "hack the Emacs you were running"?
> No idea, and I didn't hack it at all. This was a minute after I started
> a newly-build Emacs, wondered why a C-c C-k binding didn't work.
Hmm... sounds like we have a real bug, then!
Stefan
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Did you >>>> indeed "hack the Emacs you were running"? >>> >>> No idea, and I didn't hack it at all. This was a minute after I >>> started a newly-build Emacs, wondered why a C-c C-k binding didn't >>> work. I then pressed C-c alone to see what it is bound to, with >>> which-key. >> >> So I think this now becomes the main question. If this is not a >> bug, i.e. if loaddefs can legitimately be loaded mid-session, we >> cannot autoload key bindings, at least not naïvely as we do now. > > Another observation: when I start emacs from its source directory > master/src, and not as bundle, i.e. by® clicking on Emacs.app in the > dock, this doesn't happen. > > One difference in the two scenarios is that Emacs.app contains gzip'd el > files. ~/emacs/master/ > ls -l /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el* -rw-r--r-- 1 gerd admin 377687 Sep 17 16:36 /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/loaddefs.el.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 gerd admin 1467107 Sep 17 16:38 /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resource Note the timestamps. Is that good or bad?
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Did you >>> indeed "hack the Emacs you were running"? >> >> No idea, and I didn't hack it at all. This was a minute after I >> started a newly-build Emacs, wondered why a C-c C-k binding didn't >> work. I then pressed C-c alone to see what it is bound to, with >> which-key. > > So I think this now becomes the main question. If this is not a > bug, i.e. if loaddefs can legitimately be loaded mid-session, we > cannot autoload key bindings, at least not naïvely as we do now. Another observation: when I start emacs from its source directory master/src, and not as bundle, i.e. by® clicking on Emacs.app in the dock, this doesn't happen. One difference in the two scenarios is that Emacs.app contains gzip'd el files.
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From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
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Subject: Re: bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 16:42:17 +0200
>>=20
>> Here's the backtrace from the second watchdog, the one watching loaddefs
>> being loaded
>>=20
>> Debugger entered: nil
>> (if my-debug-on-loaddefs (debug) (setq my-debug-on-loaddefs t))
>> my-debug-on-loaddefs()
>> (lambda nil (my-debug-on-loaddefs))()
>> eval-after-load-helper("/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lis=
p/lo...")
>> run-hook-with-args(eval-after-load-helper "/Applications/Emacs.app/Con=
tents/Resources/lisp/lo...")
>> do-after-load-evaluation("/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/l=
isp/lo...")
>> documentation(duplicate-dwim)
>
> Any idea why a call to 'documentation' loads loaddefs? Did you indeed
> "hack the Emacs you were running"?
No idea, and I didn't hack it at all. This was a minute after I started
a newly-build Emacs, wondered why a C-c C-k binding didn't work. I
then pressed C-c alone to see what it is bound to, with which-key.
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> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 16:42:17 +0200
>
> Here's the backtrace from the second watchdog, the one watching loaddefs
> being loaded
>
> Debugger entered: nil
> (if my-debug-on-loaddefs (debug) (setq my-debug-on-loaddefs t))
> my-debug-on-loaddefs()
> (lambda nil (my-debug-on-loaddefs))()
> eval-after-load-helper("/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/lo...")
> run-hook-with-args(eval-after-load-helper "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/lo...")
> do-after-load-evaluation("/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/lo...")
> documentation(duplicate-dwim)
Any idea why a call to 'documentation' loads loaddefs? Did you indeed
"hack the Emacs you were running"?
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From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings
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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>>> I don't remember doing that, but I'll try to reproduce this somehow. I
>>> tried it just now with a simple recipe but that didn't trigger the
>>> checks in my init.el. Have to read the code that does that reloading, I
>>> guess.
>>
>> grep 'Fload (' src/*.c
>>
>> should get you started.
>
> Caught the sucker :-). I think your intuition was right.
Here's the backtrace from the second watchdog, the one watching loaddefs
being loaded
Debugger entered: nil
(if my-debug-on-loaddefs (debug) (setq my-debug-on-loaddefs t))
my-debug-on-loaddefs()
(lambda nil (my-debug-on-loaddefs))()
eval-after-load-helper("/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/l=
o...")
run-hook-with-args(eval-after-load-helper "/Applications/Emacs.app/Conten=
ts/Resources/lisp/lo...")
do-after-load-evaluation("/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp=
/lo...")
documentation(duplicate-dwim)
which-key--propertize-description("duplicate-dwim" nil nil nil "duplicate=
-dwim")
which-key--format-and-replace((("C-c #" . "embark-act") ("C-c &" . "prefi=
x") ("C-c d" . "duplicate-dwim") ("C-c g" . "my-grab-bag") ("C-c k" . "lamb=
da") ("C-c m" . "magit-file-dispatch") ("C-c o" . "mode-line-other-buffer")=
("C-c v" . "prefix") ("C-c C-b" . "elisp-byte-compile-buffer") ("C-c C-e" =
. "elisp-eval-region-or-buffer") ("C-c C-f" . "elisp-byte-compile-file") ("=
C-c C-k" . "lambda") ("C-c C-o" . "mode-line-other-buffer") ("C-c <tab>" . =
"company-complete")) nil)
which-key--get-bindings([3] nil nil)
which-key--create-buffer-and-show([3])
which-key--update()
apply(which-key--update nil)
timer-event-handler([t 0 1 0 t which-key--update nil idle 0 nil])
and here is the code I have in my init.el
(defun my-watch-f2 (&rest args)
(when (eq (car args) global-map)
(let ((key (cl-second args)))
(when (and (vectorp key) (eq (aref key 0) 'f2))
(debug)))))
(add-hook 'after-init-hook
(lambda ()
(add-function :after (symbol-function 'define-key) #'my-watch-f2)))
(defvar my-debug-on-loaddefs nil)
(defun my-debug-on-loaddefs ()
(if my-debug-on-loaddefs
(debug)
(setq my-debug-on-loaddefs t)))
(with-eval-after-load 'loaddefs
(my-debug-on-loaddefs))
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From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings
In-Reply-To: <jwv5y48r4z0.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> (Stefan Monnier's message
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:
>> I don't remember doing that, but I'll try to reproduce this somehow. I
>> tried it just now with a simple recipe but that didn't trigger the
>> checks in my init.el. Have to read the code that does that reloading, I
>> guess.
>
> grep 'Fload (' src/*.c
>
> should get you started.
Caught the sucker :-). I think your intuition was right.
This is Emacs.app, with my init.el. I simply did a C-c, which-key
kicked in, calls documentation, and here we are...
Debugger entered: nil
(progn (debug))
(if (and (vectorp key) (eq (aref key 0) 'f2)) (progn (debug)))
(let ((key (car (cdr args)))) (if (and (vectorp key) (eq (aref key 0) 'f2=
)) (progn (debug))))
(progn (let ((key (car (cdr args)))) (if (and (vectorp key) (eq (aref key=
0) 'f2)) (progn (debug)))))
(if (eq (car args) global-map) (progn (let ((key (car (cdr args)))) (if (=
and (vectorp key) (eq (aref key 0) 'f2)) (progn (debug))))))
my-watch-f2((keymap #^[nil nil keymap=20
#^^[3 0 set-mark-command move-beginning-of-line backward-char mode-specific=
-command-prefix delete-char move-end-of-line forward-char keyboard-quit hel=
p-command indent-for-tab-command electric-newline-and-maybe-indent kill-lin=
e recenter-top-bottom newline next-line open-line previous-line quoted-inse=
rt isearch-backward isearch-forward transpose-chars universal-argument scro=
ll-up-command kill-region Control-X-prefix yank undo ESC-prefix toggle-inpu=
t-method abort-recursive-edit nil undo self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...] #^^[1 =
0 #^^[2 0=20
#^^[3 0 set-mark-command move-beginning-of-line backward-char mode-specific=
-command-prefix delete-char move-end-of-line forward-char keyboard-quit hel=
p-command indent-for-tab-command electric-newline-and-maybe-indent kill-lin=
e recenter-top-bottom newline next-line open-line previous-line quoted-inse=
rt isearch-backward isearch-forward transpose-chars universal-argument scro=
ll-up-command kill-region Control-X-prefix yank undo ESC-prefix toggle-inpu=
t-method abort-recursive-edit nil undo self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...]=20
#^^[3 128 self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-=
insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command =
self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-com=
mand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-inser=
t-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-=
insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command =
self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-com=
mand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-inser=
t-command self-insert-command self-insert-command switch-to-buffer self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...=
] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-c=
ommand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command sel=
f-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comman=
d self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-c=
ommand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command sel=
f-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comman=
d] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-=
command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-in=
sert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command se=
lf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comma=
nd] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert=
-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-i=
nsert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command s=
elf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert=
-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-i=
nsert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command s=
elf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...] (C-dra=
g-mouse-1 . ignore) (s-down . end-of-buffer) (s-up . beginning-of-buffer) (=
C-tab . other-window) (33554458 . undo-redo) (67108899 . embark-act) (S-mou=
se-3 . kmacro-end-call-mouse) (C-mouse-5 . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-mouse=
-4 . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-wheel-down . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-whe=
el-up . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-M-mouse-5 . mouse-wheel-global-text-scal=
e) (C-M-mouse-4 . mouse-wheel-global-text-scale) (C-M-wheel-down . mouse-wh=
eel-global-text-scale) (C-M-wheel-up . mouse-wheel-global-text-scale) (M-mo=
use-7 . mwheel-scroll) (M-mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (M-mouse-5 . mwheel-scro=
ll) (M-mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-le=
ft . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-down . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-up . mwheel-scr=
oll) (S-mouse-7 . mwheel-scroll) (S-mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (S-mouse-5 . m=
wheel-scroll) (S-mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) (=
S-wheel-left . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-down . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-up . =
mwheel-scroll) (mouse-7 . mwheel-scroll) (mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (mouse-5=
. mwheel-scroll) (mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) .=
..) [f2] 2C-command)
apply(my-watch-f2 ((keymap #^[nil nil keymap=20
#^^[3 0 set-mark-command move-beginning-of-line backward-char mode-specific=
-command-prefix delete-char move-end-of-line forward-char keyboard-quit hel=
p-command indent-for-tab-command electric-newline-and-maybe-indent kill-lin=
e recenter-top-bottom newline next-line open-line previous-line quoted-inse=
rt isearch-backward isearch-forward transpose-chars universal-argument scro=
ll-up-command kill-region Control-X-prefix yank undo ESC-prefix toggle-inpu=
t-method abort-recursive-edit nil undo self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...] #^^[1 =
0 #^^[2 0=20
#^^[3 0 set-mark-command move-beginning-of-line backward-char mode-specific=
-command-prefix delete-char move-end-of-line forward-char keyboard-quit hel=
p-command indent-for-tab-command electric-newline-and-maybe-indent kill-lin=
e recenter-top-bottom newline next-line open-line previous-line quoted-inse=
rt isearch-backward isearch-forward transpose-chars universal-argument scro=
ll-up-command kill-region Control-X-prefix yank undo ESC-prefix toggle-inpu=
t-method abort-recursive-edit nil undo self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...]=20
#^^[3 128 self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-=
insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command =
self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-com=
mand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-inser=
t-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-=
insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command =
self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-com=
mand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-inser=
t-command self-insert-command self-insert-command switch-to-buffer self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...=
] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-c=
ommand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command sel=
f-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comman=
d self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-c=
ommand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command sel=
f-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comman=
d] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-=
command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-in=
sert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command se=
lf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comma=
nd] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert=
-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-i=
nsert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command s=
elf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert=
-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-i=
nsert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command s=
elf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...] (C-dra=
g-mouse-1 . ignore) (s-down . end-of-buffer) (s-up . beginning-of-buffer) (=
C-tab . other-window) (33554458 . undo-redo) (67108899 . embark-act) (S-mou=
se-3 . kmacro-end-call-mouse) (C-mouse-5 . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-mouse=
-4 . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-wheel-down . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-whe=
el-up . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-M-mouse-5 . mouse-wheel-global-text-scal=
e) (C-M-mouse-4 . mouse-wheel-global-text-scale) (C-M-wheel-down . mouse-wh=
eel-global-text-scale) (C-M-wheel-up . mouse-wheel-global-text-scale) (M-mo=
use-7 . mwheel-scroll) (M-mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (M-mouse-5 . mwheel-scro=
ll) (M-mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-le=
ft . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-down . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-up . mwheel-scr=
oll) (S-mouse-7 . mwheel-scroll) (S-mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (S-mouse-5 . m=
wheel-scroll) (S-mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) (=
S-wheel-left . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-down . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-up . =
mwheel-scroll) (mouse-7 . mwheel-scroll) (mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (mouse-5=
. mwheel-scroll) (mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) .=
..) [f2] 2C-command))
define-key((keymap #^[nil nil keymap=20
#^^[3 0 set-mark-command move-beginning-of-line backward-char mode-specific=
-command-prefix delete-char move-end-of-line forward-char keyboard-quit hel=
p-command indent-for-tab-command electric-newline-and-maybe-indent kill-lin=
e recenter-top-bottom newline next-line open-line previous-line quoted-inse=
rt isearch-backward isearch-forward transpose-chars universal-argument scro=
ll-up-command kill-region Control-X-prefix yank undo ESC-prefix toggle-inpu=
t-method abort-recursive-edit nil undo self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...] #^^[1 =
0 #^^[2 0=20
#^^[3 0 set-mark-command move-beginning-of-line backward-char mode-specific=
-command-prefix delete-char move-end-of-line forward-char keyboard-quit hel=
p-command indent-for-tab-command electric-newline-and-maybe-indent kill-lin=
e recenter-top-bottom newline next-line open-line previous-line quoted-inse=
rt isearch-backward isearch-forward transpose-chars universal-argument scro=
ll-up-command kill-region Control-X-prefix yank undo ESC-prefix toggle-inpu=
t-method abort-recursive-edit nil undo self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...]=20
#^^[3 128 self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-=
insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command =
self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-com=
mand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-inser=
t-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-=
insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command =
self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-com=
mand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-inser=
t-command self-insert-command self-insert-command switch-to-buffer self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...=
] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-c=
ommand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command sel=
f-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comman=
d self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-c=
ommand self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-ins=
ert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command sel=
f-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comman=
d] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-=
command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-in=
sert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command se=
lf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comma=
nd] self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert=
-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-i=
nsert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command s=
elf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert=
-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-i=
nsert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command s=
elf-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-comm=
and self-insert-command self-insert-command self-insert-command ...] (C-dra=
g-mouse-1 . ignore) (s-down . end-of-buffer) (s-up . beginning-of-buffer) (=
C-tab . other-window) (33554458 . undo-redo) (67108899 . embark-act) (S-mou=
se-3 . kmacro-end-call-mouse) (C-mouse-5 . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-mouse=
-4 . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-wheel-down . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-whe=
el-up . mouse-wheel-text-scale) (C-M-mouse-5 . mouse-wheel-global-text-scal=
e) (C-M-mouse-4 . mouse-wheel-global-text-scale) (C-M-wheel-down . mouse-wh=
eel-global-text-scale) (C-M-wheel-up . mouse-wheel-global-text-scale) (M-mo=
use-7 . mwheel-scroll) (M-mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (M-mouse-5 . mwheel-scro=
ll) (M-mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-le=
ft . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-down . mwheel-scroll) (M-wheel-up . mwheel-scr=
oll) (S-mouse-7 . mwheel-scroll) (S-mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (S-mouse-5 . m=
wheel-scroll) (S-mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) (=
S-wheel-left . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-down . mwheel-scroll) (S-wheel-up . =
mwheel-scroll) (mouse-7 . mwheel-scroll) (mouse-6 . mwheel-scroll) (mouse-5=
. mwheel-scroll) (mouse-4 . mwheel-scroll) (wheel-right . mwheel-scroll) .=
..) [f2] 2C-command)
global-set-key([f2] 2C-command)
byte-code("\300\301\302\"\210\303\304\305\306\307\310%\210\311\312\304\"\=
210\311\313\304\"\207" [register-definition-prefixes "tv-util" ("tai-viet-"=
) autoload 2C-command "two-column" nil t keymap global-set-key "\0306" [f2]=
] 6)
documentation(duplicate-dwim)
which-key--propertize-description("duplicate-dwim" nil nil nil "duplicate=
-dwim")
which-key--format-and-replace((("C-c #" . "embark-act") ("C-c &" . "prefi=
x") ("C-c d" . "duplicate-dwim") ("C-c g" . "my-grab-bag") ("C-c k" . "lamb=
da") ("C-c m" . "magit-file-dispatch") ("C-c o" . "mode-line-other-buffer")=
("C-c v" . "prefix") ("C-c C-b" . "elisp-byte-compile-buffer") ("C-c C-e" =
. "elisp-eval-region-or-buffer") ("C-c C-f" . "elisp-byte-compile-file") ("=
C-c C-k" . "lambda") ("C-c C-o" . "mode-line-other-buffer") ("C-c <tab>" . =
"company-complete")) nil)
which-key--get-bindings([3] nil nil)
which-key--create-buffer-and-show([3])
which-key--update()
apply(which-key--update nil)
timer-event-handler([t 0 1 0 t which-key--update nil idle 0 nil])
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> I don't remember doing that, but I'll try to reproduce this somehow. I
> tried it just now with a simple recipe but that didn't trigger the
> checks in my init.el. Have to read the code that does that reloading, I
> guess.
grep 'Fload (' src/*.c
should get you started.
Stefan :-)
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> But how would that happen if loaddefs is preloaded?
One case this can happen is if you're hacking on the Emacs you're
currently running: if you look at the doc of a function, Emacs
will fetch that doc from the `.elc` file, but if that file was
regenerated and the doc has moved Emacs usually detects the problem and
reloads the (new) `.elc` file so as to get the new position.
Stefan
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An indicator for that is that the kmacro and two-column >> bindings appeared together. These are the only 2 packages putting >> global-set-keys into loaddefs. > > Maybe try using eval-after-load to catch the culprit? That's a good idea! I'll put that in my init.el. The ASAN build on my old Macbook is so slow, it's no fun. > load-history should also tell you if loaddefs was loaded, I think.
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[79.227.172.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fi26-20020a170906da1a00b0099bc8db97bcsm4826247ejb.131.2023.09.17.04.07.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 17 Sep 2023 04:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#66022: 30.0.50; kmacro overwriting global keybindings In-Reply-To: <83y1h5f58u.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:45:05 +0300") References: <m2ttruzkpt.fsf@HIDDEN> <83edixgwrr.fsf@HIDDEN> <m27copcnu4.fsf@HIDDEN> <m234zdcng9.fsf@HIDDEN> <83bke1gusz.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2y1h5b8bs.fsf@HIDDEN> <83a5tlgoyz.fsf@HIDDEN> <m25y49b2ho.fsf@HIDDEN> <837copgnu3.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2h6ntqfrr.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y1h5f58u.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 13:07:47 +0200 Message-ID: <m27copt5vg.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66022 Cc: monnier@HIDDEN, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> ALas, even when the trace-function kicked in, I wasn't able to tell what >> exactly it was that triggered that. > > Could it be that you (or something else) reloaded loaddefs? It wasn't me, for sure, but that's what I also suspect is happening somehow. An indicator for that is that the kmacro and two-column bindings appeared together. These are the only 2 packages putting global-set-keys into loaddefs. But how would that happen if loaddefs is preloaded? I couldn't find anything suspicous with git grep. I'm building with ASAN now, maybe that finds something.
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: monnier@HIDDEN, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 10:58:11 +0200
>>=20
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>>=20
>> >> > What does use-package do when the "package" is "emacs"? IOW, at wh=
at
>> >> > point in time will the above binding be executed, and what event wi=
ll
>> >> > trigger that?
>> >>=20
>> >> Nothing. It's sort of an idiom I found on the net for general
>> >> customizations and so on that don't belong to a particular package.
>> >> Some people apparently name it "general".
>> >
>> > So the above binding of F2 is never executed in your case? Or else,
>> > how should I interpret your "Nothing" response to my question about
>> > the point in time when this binding is executed?
>>=20
>> No, sorry for not being clear. I meant use-package doesn't load a
>> package, or something like that. It executes normally, and in
>> particular, it uses bind-key for the :bind clause, so that F2 gets
>> bound.
>
> Does it do that immediately as that particular use-package form is
> read and interpreted, or does it do it later (e.g., after the init
> file was loaded or something)?
>
> I'm trying to figure out when could the autoloaded bindings become in
> effect so as to countermand your use-package bindings (if this is what
> happens; does it?).
Hm, I must confess I'm not a great use-package expert, but maybe we can
figure this out. I used pp-macro-expand-last-sexp on the use-package in
my .init.el. The result is at the end.
I'd say it looks like the bind-key is done like so
(condition-case-unless-debug err
(progn
...
(unless (fboundp 'mode-line-other-buffer)
(autoload #'mode-line-other-buffer "emacs" nil t))
...
(bind-key ...)
This is the full macro expansion:
(progn
(defvar use-package--warning47
#'(lambda (keyword err)
(let
((msg
(format "%s/%s: %s" 'emacs keyword
(error-message-string err))))
(display-warning 'use-package msg :error))))
(condition-case-unless-debug err
(progn
(let ((custom--inhibit-theme-enable nil))
(unless (memq 'use-package custom-known-themes)
(deftheme use-package) (enable-theme 'use-package)
(setq custom-enabled-themes
(remq 'use-package custom-enabled-themes)))
(custom-theme-set-variables 'use-package
'(cursor-type 'bar nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(scroll-bar-mode nil nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(custom-enabled-themes
'(modus-vivendi) nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(default-frame-alist
'((height . 82) (width . 120))
nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(ns-alternate-modifier 'meta
nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(ns-left-command-modifier
'super nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(ns-right-alternate-modifier
'none nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(ns-right-command-modifier
'meta nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(duplicate-line-final-position
1 nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(enable-local-eval t nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(enable-local-variables :all
nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(help-window-select t nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(server-mode t nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(send-mail-function
'smtpmail-send-it nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(vc-follow-symlinks t nil nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(disabled-command-function nil
nil
nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(ring-bell-function 'ignore nil
nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")
'(initial-scratch-message nil
nil
nil
"Customized with use-package emacs")))
(unless (fboundp 'undo) (autoload #'undo "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'undo-redo)
(autoload #'undo-redo "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'ibuffer) (autoload #'ibuffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'zap-up-to-char)
(autoload #'zap-up-to-char "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'mode-line-other-buffer)
(autoload #'mode-line-other-buffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'duplicate-dwim)
(autoload #'duplicate-dwim "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'switch-to-buffer)
(autoload #'switch-to-buffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'beginning-of-buffer)
(autoload #'beginning-of-buffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'end-of-buffer)
(autoload #'end-of-buffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'previous-buffer)
(autoload #'previous-buffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'next-buffer)
(autoload #'next-buffer "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'execute-extended-command)
(autoload #'execute-extended-command "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'delete-other-windows)
(autoload #'delete-other-windows "emacs" nil t))
(unless (fboundp 'global-text-scale-adjust)
(autoload #'global-text-scale-adjust "emacs" nil t))
(eval-after-load 'emacs
'(condition-case-unless-debug err
(progn
(defun my-startup-time nil
(message "Start time %s." (emacs-init-time)))
(add-hook 'emacs-startup-hook #'my-startup-time) t)
(error (funcall use-package--warning47 :config err))))
(bind-keys :package emacs ("C-z" . undo) ("C-S-z" . undo-redo)
("C-x C-b" . ibuffer) ("C-x 6") ("C-x C-k")
("M-z" . zap-up-to-char)
("<f2>" . mode-line-other-buffer)
("C-c o" . mode-line-other-buffer)
("C-c C-o" . mode-line-other-buffer)
("<f4>" lambda nil (interactive)
(kill-buffer (current-buffer)))
("C-c k" lambda nil (interactive)
(kill-buffer (current-buffer)))
("C-c C-k" lambda nil (interactive)
(kill-buffer (current-buffer)))
("C-<up>" lambda nil (interactive) (scroll-up 1))
("C-<down>" lambda nil (interactive)
(scroll-down 1))
("C-<tab>" . other-window)
("C-c d" . duplicate-dwim) ("=C2=A0" . switch-to-buffer)
("s-<up>" . beginning-of-buffer)
("s-<down>" . end-of-buffer)
("s-<left>" . previous-buffer)
("s-<right>" . next-buffer)
("s-x" . execute-extended-command)
("s-o" . delete-other-windows)
("s-+" . global-text-scale-adjust)
("s--" . global-text-scale-adjust) ("s-h") ("s-m")
("s-p") ("s-q")))
(error (funcall use-package--warning47 :catch err))))
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IOW, at what >> > point in time will the above binding be executed, and what event will >> > trigger that? >> >> Nothing. It's sort of an idiom I found on the net for general >> customizations and so on that don't belong to a particular package. >> Some people apparently name it "general". > > So the above binding of F2 is never executed in your case? Or else, > how should I interpret your "Nothing" response to my question about > the point in time when this binding is executed? No, sorry for not being clear. I meant use-package doesn't load a package, or something like that. It executes normally, and in particular, it uses bind-key for the :bind clause, so that F2 gets bound.
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> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> Cc: monnier@HIDDEN, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 08:52:07 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> >> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 08:40:06 +0200
> >>
> >> I'm using use-package (+ straight) in my init.el, and because of that
> >> the bindings are done, behind the scenes, with bind-key. The
> >> use-package binding f2 looks like (stripped down):
> >>
> >> (use-package emacs
> >> :bind
> >> ;; FIXME: The function key bindings sometimes mysteriously
> >> ;; disappear, and are replaced with the original bindings in
> >> ;; global-map.
> >> ("<f2>" . mode-line-other-buffer))
> >
> > What does use-package do when the "package" is "emacs"? IOW, at what
> > point in time will the above binding be executed, and what event will
> > trigger that?
>
> Nothing. It's sort of an idiom I found on the net for general
> customizations and so on that don't belong to a particular package.
> Some people apparently name it "general".
So the above binding of F2 is never executed in your case? Or else,
how should I interpret your "Nothing" response to my question about
the point in time when this binding is executed?
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 08:40:06 +0200
>>=20
>> I'm using use-package (+ straight) in my init.el, and because of that
>> the bindings are done, behind the scenes, with bind-key. The
>> use-package binding f2 looks like (stripped down):
>>=20
>> (use-package emacs
>> :bind
>> ;; FIXME: The function key bindings sometimes mysteriously
>> ;; disappear, and are replaced with the original bindings in
>> ;; global-map.
>> ("<f2>" . mode-line-other-buffer))
>
> What does use-package do when the "package" is "emacs"? IOW, at what
> point in time will the above binding be executed, and what event will
> trigger that?
Nothing. It's sort of an idiom I found on the net for general
customizations and so on that don't belong to a particular package.
Some people apparently name it "general".
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> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, 66022 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 08:40:06 +0200
>
> I'm using use-package (+ straight) in my init.el, and because of that
> the bindings are done, behind the scenes, with bind-key. The
> use-package binding f2 looks like (stripped down):
>
> (use-package emacs
> :bind
> ;; FIXME: The function key bindings sometimes mysteriously
> ;; disappear, and are replaced with the original bindings in
> ;; global-map.
> ("<f2>" . mode-line-other-buffer))
What does use-package do when the "package" is "emacs"? IOW, at what
point in time will the above binding be executed, and what event will
trigger that?
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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
> I'll report back, when I have something.
One addendum, even if it might not be relevant - one never knows.
I'm using use-package (+ straight) in my init.el, and because of that
the bindings are done, behind the scenes, with bind-key. The
use-package binding f2 looks like (stripped down):
(use-package emacs
:bind
;; FIXME: The function key bindings sometimes mysteriously
;; disappear, and are replaced with the original bindings in
;; global-map.
("<f2>" . mode-line-other-buffer))
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:38:22 +0200
>>
>> current master 1442f4043a761e9bdeeb4e1fbe9822c2987c1502, emacs -Q
>
> The same problem exists on emacs-29 (and I presume in older versions
> of Emacs).
>
>> (keymap-global-set "S-<mouse-3>" 'ignore)
>>
>> then C-x ( C-g.
>
> (The C-g part is not relevant; the same happens if you finish defining
> the macro.)
True.
>> (keymap-lookup global-map "S-<mouse-3>")
>> =3D> kmacro-end-call-mouse
>>
>> Notice that the binding has been overwritten.
>
> This is because of this snippet at top level of kmacro.el:
>
> (if kmacro-call-mouse-event
> (global-set-key (vector kmacro-call-mouse-event) #'kmacro-end-call-mo=
use))
>
> As the doc string of kmacro-call-mouse-event says:
>
> (defcustom kmacro-call-mouse-event 'S-mouse-3
> "The mouse event used by kmacro to call a macro.
> Set to nil if no mouse binding is desired."
> :type 'symbol)
>
> customize this to nil to avoid overwriting the S-<mouse-3> binding you
> have.
Ah, finally someone I can understand ;-).
>> This is actually not the binding I care about, but it's the only one I
>> can easily reproduce with emacs -Q. With my init file, and with a
>> (trace-function 'global-set-key) I see
>>
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key "(" kmacro-start-macro)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key ")" kmacro-end-macro)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-macro
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key "e" kmacro-end-and-call-macro)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-and-call-macro
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key [f3] kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key [f4] kmacro-end-or-call-macro)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-or-call-macro
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key "=0B" kmacro-keymap)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-keymap
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key "6" 2C-command)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> 1 -> (global-set-key [f2] 2C-command)
>> 1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
>>
>> which overwrites part of my key bindings, also with ones from two-column.
>
> Those bindings come from loaddefs.el, which should be preloaded, so
> the bindings should be executed when dumping Emacs, as part of loading
> loadup.el, not when processing your init files.
So I thought, too.
> Can you tell more about how you captured those traces, exactly?
I added a (trace-function 'global-set-key) to my init file, in an
after-init-hook, so that it only traced after my key bindings were done.
At some point, I still don't know how I triggered this, this trace
appeared.
> what are the details of your build, and in particular did you build
> "--with-native-compilation=3Daot", per chance?
No native compilation, the only config option different fromt he default
is --without-dbus. Please find at the end what report-emacs-bug
produces. It's a clean build starting with git clean -xdf.
I have now added this to my init.el:
(defun my-watch-f2 (&rest args)
(when (eq (car args) global-map)
(let ((key (cl-second args)))
(when (and (vectorp key) (eq (aref key 0) 'f2))
(debug)))))
(add-hook 'after-init-hook
(lambda ()
(add-function :after (symbol-function 'define-key) #'my-watch-f2)))
which is supposed to drop me into the debugger when my F2 binding gets
redefined. Alas, as I mentioned, I don't know what exactly I do when
this happens.
I'll report back, when I have something.
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> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 08:38:22 +0200
>
> current master 1442f4043a761e9bdeeb4e1fbe9822c2987c1502, emacs -Q
The same problem exists on emacs-29 (and I presume in older versions
of Emacs).
> (keymap-global-set "S-<mouse-3>" 'ignore)
>
> then C-x ( C-g.
(The C-g part is not relevant; the same happens if you finish defining
the macro.)
> (keymap-lookup global-map "S-<mouse-3>")
> => kmacro-end-call-mouse
>
> Notice that the binding has been overwritten.
This is because of this snippet at top level of kmacro.el:
(if kmacro-call-mouse-event
(global-set-key (vector kmacro-call-mouse-event) #'kmacro-end-call-mouse))
As the doc string of kmacro-call-mouse-event says:
(defcustom kmacro-call-mouse-event 'S-mouse-3
"The mouse event used by kmacro to call a macro.
Set to nil if no mouse binding is desired."
:type 'symbol)
customize this to nil to avoid overwriting the S-<mouse-3> binding you
have.
> This is actually not the binding I care about, but it's the only one I
> can easily reproduce with emacs -Q. With my init file, and with a
> (trace-function 'global-set-key) I see
>
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key "(" kmacro-start-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key ")" kmacro-end-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key "e" kmacro-end-and-call-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-and-call-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key [f3] kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key [f4] kmacro-end-or-call-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-or-call-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key " " kmacro-keymap)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-keymap
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key "6" 2C-command)
> 1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key [f2] 2C-command)
> 1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
>
> which overwrites part of my key bindings, also with ones from two-column.
Those bindings come from loaddefs.el, which should be preloaded, so
the bindings should be executed when dumping Emacs, as part of loading
loadup.el, not when processing your init files. Can you tell more
about how you captured those traces, exactly? Also, what are the
details of your build, and in particular did you build
"--with-native-compilation=aot", per chance?
Stefan, any comments?
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Gerd M=C3=B6llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN> writes:
> Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Maybe try make bootstrap?
>
> It is already a clean build.
I now did this, before the C-x ( C-g in my recipe:
(add-function :after (symbol-function 'global-set-key)
(lambda (&rest args) (debug)))
and get the backtrace
Debugger entered: nil
(closure (t) (&rest args) (debug))([S-mouse-3] kmacro-end-call-mouse)
apply((closure (t) (&rest args) (debug)) ([S-mouse-3] kmacro-end-call-mou=
se))
global-set-key([S-mouse-3] kmacro-end-call-mouse)
byte-code("\302\300\10\"\210\11\203\20\0\303\304\11!\305\"\210\302\207" [=
kmacro-keymap kmacro-call-mouse-event defalias global-set-key vector kmacro=
-end-call-mouse] 3)
autoload-do-load((autoload "kmacro" ("loaddefs.elc" . 753171) t nil) kmac=
ro-start-macro)
command-execute(kmacro-start-macro)
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On Sep 16 2023, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> current master 1442f4043a761e9bdeeb4e1fbe9822c2987c1502, emacs -Q
>
> (keymap-global-set "S-<mouse-3>" 'ignore)
>
> then C-x ( C-g.
>
> (keymap-lookup global-map "S-<mouse-3>")
> => kmacro-end-call-mouse
>
> Notice that the binding has been overwritten.
That's kmacro-call-mouse-event.
> This is actually not the binding I care about, but it's the only one I
> can easily reproduce with emacs -Q. With my init file, and with a
> (trace-function 'global-set-key) I see
>
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key "(" kmacro-start-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key ")" kmacro-end-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key "e" kmacro-end-and-call-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-and-call-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key [f3] kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key [f4] kmacro-end-or-call-macro)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-or-call-macro
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key " " kmacro-keymap)
> 1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-keymap
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key "6" 2C-command)
> 1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
> ======================================================================
> 1 -> (global-set-key [f2] 2C-command)
> 1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
>
> which overwrites part of my key bindings, also with ones from two-column.
From kmacro.el:
;;; Provide some binding for startup:
;;;###autoload (global-set-key "\C-x(" #'kmacro-start-macro)
;;;###autoload (global-set-key "\C-x)" #'kmacro-end-macro)
;;;###autoload (global-set-key "\C-xe" #'kmacro-end-and-call-macro)
;;;###autoload (global-set-key [f3] #'kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter)
;;;###autoload (global-set-key [f4] #'kmacro-end-or-call-macro)
;;;###autoload (global-set-key "\C-x\C-k" #'kmacro-keymap)
They are all commented out (only to be put in loaddefs.el), so they
should not be executed when kmacro is loaded.
Maybe try make bootstrap?
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current master 1442f4043a761e9bdeeb4e1fbe9822c2987c1502, emacs -Q
(keymap-global-set "S-<mouse-3>" 'ignore)
then C-x ( C-g.
(keymap-lookup global-map "S-<mouse-3>")
=> kmacro-end-call-mouse
Notice that the binding has been overwritten.
This is actually not the binding I care about, but it's the only one I
can easily reproduce with emacs -Q. With my init file, and with a
(trace-function 'global-set-key) I see
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key "(" kmacro-start-macro)
1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key ")" kmacro-end-macro)
1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-macro
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key "e" kmacro-end-and-call-macro)
1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-and-call-macro
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key [f3] kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter)
1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key [f4] kmacro-end-or-call-macro)
1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-end-or-call-macro
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key " " kmacro-keymap)
1 <- global-set-key: kmacro-keymap
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key "6" 2C-command)
1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
======================================================================
1 -> (global-set-key [f2] 2C-command)
1 <- global-set-key: 2C-command
which overwrites part of my key bindings, also with ones from two-column.
(Note that two-column and kmacro are the only packages with autoloads
for global-set-key. Maybe that plays a role, but TBH I don't have a
clue what's going on here.)
Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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