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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 87afc4bb6e8ae87e7dfe0e915c05e2b7; Tue, 03 Oct 2023 08:49:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#66308: 30.0.50; DocView: Bump default value of doc-view-resolution In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmzC6X9Khf_iu5=yYmK87LStsB94KRAFeyA=zsE26xa4A@HIDDEN> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 2 Oct 2023 07:55:47 -0700") References: <CADwFkmmzC6X9Khf_iu5=yYmK87LStsB94KRAFeyA=zsE26xa4A@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:49:07 +0800 Message-ID: <87wmw4jdks.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1204 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66308 Cc: 66308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tassilo Horn <tsdh@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes: > How about increasing the default value of `doc-view-resolution' from 100 > to something like 300? In my use, I find that the default value gives > poor results, especially after `doc-view-enlarge', whereas a value of > 300 gives a nice, crisp display. Monitors these days are certainly much > larger, and have much higher resolutions, than they used to. > > People in highly restricted environments might have to turn it back down > again, of course. I think this is okay though, if the benefit is that > doc-view will look better in more typical cases. > > I also note that `doc-view-resolution' has had the same value since > 2007, when DocView mode was first added to Emacs. After 15-20 years, it > might be time for a bump. How about making the resolution commensurate with that of the display itself? Monitor density has not increased for lay folk, only those willing to spend prodigally on display hardware. Compounding that, larger images will consume greater quantities of disk space and X server memory. Bear in mind that /tmp is customarily small; only 4 GiB on my system, with 1.8GiB in use, whereof /tmp/docview1000 consumes 971 MiB.
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In my use, I find that the default value gives poor results, especially after `doc-view-enlarge', whereas a value of 300 gives a nice, crisp display. Monitors these days are certainly much larger, and have much higher resolutions, than they used to. People in highly restricted environments might have to turn it back down again, of course. I think this is okay though, if the benefit is that doc-view will look better in more typical cases. I also note that `doc-view-resolution' has had the same value since 2007, when DocView mode was first added to Emacs. After 15-20 years, it might be time for a bump.
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>:tsdh@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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