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Broken link to Debbugs User Guide

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>
To: bug-guix <at> gnu.org
Subject: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 10:51:45 -0400

The page https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Interfaces.html
has a broken link "Debbugs User Guide" to the page
https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/debbugs-ug/index.html#Top.

Message #8 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>
Cc: 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 22:39:46 -0400

Hi Greg,

Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com> writes:

> The page https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Interfaces.html
> has a broken link "Debbugs User Guide" to the page
> https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/debbugs-ug/index.html#Top.

There doesn't seem to be an online HTML version of this manual, so the
bug doesn't appear actionable.

It works when using 'info', provided the 'emacs-debbugs' package is
installed.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #13 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>,
 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 02:42:10 +0000

merge 66703 58415
thanks

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 10:39 PM, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com> writes:
>
>> The page https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Interfaces.html
>> has a broken link "Debbugs User Guide" to the page
>> https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/debbugs-ug/index.html#Top.
>
> There doesn't seem to be an online HTML version of this manual, so the
> bug doesn't appear actionable.
>
> It works when using 'info', provided the 'emacs-debbugs' package is
> installed.

I noticed the broken html link before but never tracked down the correct
link to patch it. But just now a search gave me
<https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html> which looks helpful?

John

Message #18 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
Cc: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>,
 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:19:04 -0400

Hi John,

John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com> writes:

> merge 66703 58415
> thanks
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 10:39 PM, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com> writes:
>>
>>> The page https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Interfaces.html
>>> has a broken link "Debbugs User Guide" to the page
>>> https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/debbugs-ug/index.html#Top.
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be an online HTML version of this manual, so the
>> bug doesn't appear actionable.
>>
>> It works when using 'info', provided the 'emacs-debbugs' package is
>> installed.
>
> I noticed the broken html link before but never tracked down the correct
> link to patch it. But just now a search gave me
> <https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html> which looks helpful?

This doesn't look like an 'official' doc to me, but if we'd like to use
it, we'd have to tune the doc/htmlxref.cnf file content.  Would you like
to give it a try?

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #21 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>
To: 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>
Subject: [PATCH] doc: Remove 'Debbugs User Guide' broken links.
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 14:01:13 +0200

Fixes <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66703>.

* doc/contributing.texi: Remove (x)refs and text about the Debbugs User
Guide.
---

Consensus has not been reached for using the ELPA page, so in the
mean time, remove broken links.

 doc/contributing.texi | 6 +-----
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/contributing.texi b/doc/contributing.texi
index 938c8bfdb1..8b0b49e500 100644
--- a/doc/contributing.texi
+++ b/doc/contributing.texi
@@ -678,8 +678,7 @@ configuration file:
 @end lisp
 
 For more information, refer to @ref{Bug Reference,,, emacs, The GNU
-Emacs Manual} and @ref{Minor Mode,,, debbugs-ug, The Debbugs User
-Guide}.
+Emacs Manual}.
 
 @node Alternative Setups
 @section Alternative Setups
@@ -2552,9 +2551,6 @@ Bugs within Emacs}).
 To search for bugs, @samp{@kbd{M-x} debbugs-gnu-guix-search} can be
 used.
 
-@xref{Top,,, debbugs-ug, Debbugs User Guide}, for more information on
-this nifty tool!
-
 @node Debbugs Usertags
 @subsection Debbugs Usertags
 
-- 
2.45.2

Message #24 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>, Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>,
 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2024 02:12:50 +0000

Hi Maxim,

Yes, reviving an old one as I try to close some (of my too many) browser
tabs.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 11:19 AM, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com> writes:
>
>> merge 66703 58415
>> thanks
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 10:39 PM, Maxim Cournoyer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>
>>> Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> The page <https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Interfaces.html>
>>>> has a broken link "Debbugs User Guide" to the page
>>>> <https://guix.gnu.org/devel/manual/en/debbugs-ug/index.html#Top>.
>>>
>>> There doesn't seem to be an online HTML version of this manual, so the
>>> bug doesn't appear actionable.
>>>
>>> It works when using 'info', provided the 'emacs-debbugs' package is
>>> installed.
>>
>> I noticed the broken html link before but never tracked down the correct
>> link to patch it. But just now a search gave me
>> <https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html> which looks helpful?
>
> This doesn't look like an 'official' doc to me, but if we'd like to
> use

What do you mean not "official" exactly? This is listed as one of 2
links for the manual from the homepage of the debbugs package
<https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/debbugs.html> (one for the
package/library I guess, the second for the "user guide").

> it, we'd have to tune the doc/htmlxref.cnf file content.  Would you like
> to give it a try?

I have to admit not knowing about that file until you had mentioned it
and not sure where to start. Any quick pointers or examples of this? Or
do I just add a debbugs entry under emacs where it is set to that link?

(There was a patch from Vincent Legoll that was lost as it was only sent
to the bug number, which goes nowhere:
<https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66703#5> This just removes the reference
though. Adding to the CC here.)

For future reference, related issues:
<https://issues.guix.gnu.org/29593> and
<https://issues.guix.gnu.org/54197>.

Thanks!
John

Message #27 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>
To: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
Cc: Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>,
 Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>, 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:44:18 +0000

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Hello,

On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 2:12 AM John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
wrote:

> (There was a patch from Vincent Legoll that was lost as it was only sent
> to the bug number, which goes nowhere:
>

Yes, I did not use the tool (mumi CLI ?) to reply, so I just sent to the
bug number
hoping it would reach the interested people. I think an easy CC list that
you can
copy/paste would be a nice UI feature for mumi web.


> <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/66703#5> This just removes the reference
> though. Adding to the CC here.)
>

Yep, not knowing what was wanted/useful I just went for the simple Occam
fix.

Thanks for reviving the issue !

-- 
Vincent Legoll

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Message #30 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>
Cc: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>,
 Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>, 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 00:37:09 +0900

Hi Vincent,

Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 2:12 AM John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> (There was a patch from Vincent Legoll that was lost as it was only sent
>> to the bug number, which goes nowhere:
>>
>
> Yes, I did not use the tool (mumi CLI ?) to reply, so I just sent to the
> bug number
> hoping it would reach the interested people. I think an easy CC list that
> you can
> copy/paste would be a nice UI feature for mumi web.

Perhaps it was added later to mumi, but I'm pretty sure it now adds
X-Debbugs-CC custom email headers with all the participants in the
thread of the bug, at least it does for 'mumi send-email' (I just tried
it to send a patch to an older issue thread).

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

Message #33 received at 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
Cc: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>,
 Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>, 66703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 15:58:48 +0000

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Hi Maxime,

On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 3:37 PM Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> > Yes, I did not use the tool (mumi CLI ?) to reply, so I just sent to the
> > bug number
> > hoping it would reach the interested people. I think an easy CC list that
> > you can
> > copy/paste would be a nice UI feature for mumi web.
>
> Perhaps it was added later to mumi, but I'm pretty sure it now adds
> X-Debbugs-CC custom email headers with all the participants in the
> thread of the bug, at least it does for 'mumi send-email' (I just tried
> it to send a patch to an older issue thread).
>

Yes, I too am expecting mumi CLI to DTRT, but for the mumi web users,
the equivalent CC list that you can easily cutnpaste would be nice. That's
what I meant, the mumi web should strive to have similar features from
the CLI when it's not too hard, IMHO...

-- 
Vincent Legoll

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Message #38 received at 66703-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll <at> gmail.com>
Cc: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>, 66703-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Greg Hogan <code <at> greghogan.com>
Subject: Re: bug#66703: Broken link to Debbugs User Guide
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 22:19:46 +0900

Hi,

This issue should have been resolved by 6e3d855b48.  Thanks to Tomas!

Closing.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

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