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30.0.50; how do i lookup a key but also respect key translations?

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From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.50; how do i lookup a key but also respect key translations?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:57:58 -0500

Hello. So I am trying to define a function which obtains the command
that would be called if 'corfu-mode' was not enabled:

(defun +corfu--get-passthrough-command ()
  (keymap-lookup
   (thread-last
     (current-active-maps t)
     (delq corfu-map)
     (delq (and (featurep 'evil)
                (evil-get-auxiliary-keymap corfu-map evil-state))))
   (key-description (this-command-keys-vector))))

But the issue is basically that

(keymap-lookup (current-active-maps t)
    (key-description (vector 'backspace)))

returns nil whereas

(keymap-lookup (current-active-maps t) (key-description (vector ?\C-?)))

returns 'lispy-delete-backward' which is the command I actually want
returned. When I run 'describe-key-briefly' and type <backspace>, I get

DEL (translated from <backspace>) runs the command lispy-delete-backward

but I don't know how to look up that translation from Elisp. I looked at
the code for 'help.el' and found the above description comes from
'read-key-sequence' returning 'C-?' and 'this-single-command-raw-keys'
returning '[backspace]' but 'read-key-sequence' is defined in C and I
don't know how trigger it's translation logic programmatically from
Elisp.


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Message #8 received at 66755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 66755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66755: 30.0.50;
 how do i lookup a key but also respect key translations?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 10:22:08 +0300

> From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:57:58 -0500
> 
> 
> Hello. So I am trying to define a function which obtains the command
> that would be called if 'corfu-mode' was not enabled:
> 
> (defun +corfu--get-passthrough-command ()
>   (keymap-lookup
>    (thread-last
>      (current-active-maps t)
>      (delq corfu-map)
>      (delq (and (featurep 'evil)
>                 (evil-get-auxiliary-keymap corfu-map evil-state))))
>    (key-description (this-command-keys-vector))))
> 
> But the issue is basically that
> 
> (keymap-lookup (current-active-maps t)
>     (key-description (vector 'backspace)))
> 
> returns nil whereas
> 
> (keymap-lookup (current-active-maps t) (key-description (vector ?\C-?)))
> 
> returns 'lispy-delete-backward' which is the command I actually want
> returned. When I run 'describe-key-briefly' and type <backspace>, I get
> 
> DEL (translated from <backspace>) runs the command lispy-delete-backward
> 
> but I don't know how to look up that translation from Elisp. I looked at
> the code for 'help.el' and found the above description comes from
> 'read-key-sequence' returning 'C-?' and 'this-single-command-raw-keys'
> returning '[backspace]' but 'read-key-sequence' is defined in C and I
> don't know how trigger it's translation logic programmatically from
> Elisp.

Perhaps Stefan (CC'ed) could help you.

Btw, this kind of questions should be posted to
help-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org, not here.

Message #15 received at 66755-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>, 66755-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
Subject: Re: bug#66755: 30.0.50;
 how do i lookup a key but also respect key translations?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 10:00:29 -0800

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
>> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:57:58 -0500
>>
>>
>> Hello. So I am trying to define a function which obtains the command
>> that would be called if 'corfu-mode' was not enabled:
>>
>> (defun +corfu--get-passthrough-command ()
>>   (keymap-lookup
>>    (thread-last
>>      (current-active-maps t)
>>      (delq corfu-map)
>>      (delq (and (featurep 'evil)
>>                 (evil-get-auxiliary-keymap corfu-map evil-state))))
>>    (key-description (this-command-keys-vector))))
>>
>> But the issue is basically that
>>
>> (keymap-lookup (current-active-maps t)
>>     (key-description (vector 'backspace)))
>>
>> returns nil whereas
>>
>> (keymap-lookup (current-active-maps t) (key-description (vector ?\C-?)))
>>
>> returns 'lispy-delete-backward' which is the command I actually want
>> returned. When I run 'describe-key-briefly' and type <backspace>, I get
>>
>> DEL (translated from <backspace>) runs the command lispy-delete-backward
>>
>> but I don't know how to look up that translation from Elisp. I looked at
>> the code for 'help.el' and found the above description comes from
>> 'read-key-sequence' returning 'C-?' and 'this-single-command-raw-keys'
>> returning '[backspace]' but 'read-key-sequence' is defined in C and I
>> don't know how trigger it's translation logic programmatically from
>> Elisp.
>
> Perhaps Stefan (CC'ed) could help you.
>
> Btw, this kind of questions should be posted to
> help-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org, not here.

That sounds like this is not a bug, so I'm closing the bug report.

Message #18 received at 66755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
Cc: 66755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66755: 30.0.50; how do i lookup a key but also respect key
 translations?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 22:41:15 -0500

> Hello. So I am trying to define a function which obtains the command
> that would be called if 'corfu-mode' was not enabled:

I recommend you try and avoid needing to do that.

> (defun +corfu--get-passthrough-command ()
>   (keymap-lookup
>    (thread-last
>      (current-active-maps t)
>      (delq corfu-map)
>      (delq (and (featurep 'evil)
>                 (evil-get-auxiliary-keymap corfu-map evil-state))))
>    (key-description (this-command-keys-vector))))

[ Eww... `keymap-lookup` forcing you to use `key-description` here is
  pretty hideous.  ]

> but I don't know how to look up that translation from Elisp. I looked at
> the code for 'help.el' and found the above description comes from
> 'read-key-sequence' returning 'C-?' and 'this-single-command-raw-keys'
> returning '[backspace]' but 'read-key-sequence' is defined in C and I
> don't know how trigger it's translation logic programmatically from
> Elisp.

Are you saying that `this-command-keys-vector` returns the same
`[backspace]` as `this-single-command-raw-keys` here?  That's odd, I'd
have expected to return `[?\C-?]`.
In any case it still won't always be the answer you're looking for.

There is simply no reliable way to do what you want, because even
deciding when the sequence of keys ends (to run your (presumably Corfu)
command) can be affected by the existence of a binding to that command.

I think the "closest" you can get is to take
`this-single-command-raw-keys` and push it back on `unread-command-events`.

Or else, arrange for your command's binding to be disabled when you
don't actually want to run it, rather than make it delegate manually to
the "next" binding.


        Stefan

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