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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: trentbuck@HIDDEN, 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 23:53:03 -0400
> >
> > Yes, you are correct - I must have had a typo. When I tried it again
> > today, it works as you describe, and I was able to reproduce the
> > original bug. Thanks for the help.
>
> The original bug is probably due to the initial queries we make to see
> if xterm supports some advanced features. Can you see if this is
> indeed the culprit?
I tried adding
(setq xterm-extra-capabilities nil)
to my ~/.emacs and as at
GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) of 2014-10-26 on trouble,
modified by Debian
...I still saw that M-x turned into just x if I typed it while Emacs
was starting (using ALTERNATE_EDITOR= emacsclient -c -t).
I tried using *just* that line as my .emacs,
but emacs started too fast for me to type the M-x. :-)
I don't have a 25.x handy to test with - since 24.4 has
xterm-extra-capabilities I hope it's new enough to be a useful test.
It definitely doesn't happen with just "emacs" instead of
"ALTERNATE_EDITOR= emacsclient -c -t".
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 20:32:57 +0000
>> Cc: trentbuck@HIDDEN, 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> > I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will not
>> > start up a new emacs instance with emacsclient. According to the
>> > documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor
>> > flag:
>> >
>> > If the value of EDITOR is the empty string, run "emacs --daemon" to
>> > start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it.
>> >
>> > So I can't reproduce this issue anymore. Let me know if I'm missing
>> > something, please.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Starting the daemon
>> with ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" was part of the recipe; you seem to say it
>> no longer works, although the documentation still says it should? It
>> certainly works for me, if I understood correctly what you described.
>>
>> It doesn't work for me for some reason, and the documentation seems to imply
>> that it shouldn't work. If using
>> ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" started emacs in daemon mode, why would the
>> documentation tell the user to
>> run the "emacs --daemon" manually? Instead, what I get when I don't have an
>> emacs in daemon mode, is just
>> emacsclient telling me there's no emacs daemon running.
>>
>> Judging by your response, I feel I must be misunderstanding something, but I
>> don't know what.
>
> What happens if you try this command on your system? That is, if you
> type
>
> ALTERNATE_EDITOR='' emacsclient -t -c
>
> What I see on a typical GNU/Linux system is this:
>
> /home/e/eliz/emacs-current/lib-src/emacsclient: can't find socket; have you
> started the server?
> To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start".
>
> Warning: due to a long standing Gtk+ bug
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85715
> Emacs might crash when run in daemon mode and the X11 connection is
> unexpectedly lost.
> Using an Emacs configured with --with-x-toolkit=lucid does not have this
> problem.
> ("emacs")
> Loading 00debian-vars...
> [More packages loading from the site-init file...]
> Starting Emacs daemon.
> Restarting server
> Emacs daemon should have started, trying to connect again
>
> and then I see an Emacs frame (in text mode in this case, since -t was
> used) open. As you see, after warning me about no daemon running,
> emacsclient starts a new daemon, then attempts to reconnect to it.
>
> What happens if you try that?
Yes, you are correct - I must have had a typo. When I tried it again
today, it works as you describe, and I was able to reproduce the
original bug. Thanks for the help.
I still think the manual seems to say this shouldn't be expected to
work, which is odd.
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> From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 20:32:57 +0000
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>
> > I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will not
> > start up a new emacs instance with emacsclient. According to the
> > documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor
> > flag:
> >
> > If the value of EDITOR is the empty string, run "emacs --daemon" to
> > start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it.
> >
> > So I can't reproduce this issue anymore. Let me know if I'm missing
> > something, please.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Starting the daemon
> with ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" was part of the recipe; you seem to say it
> no longer works, although the documentation still says it should? It
> certainly works for me, if I understood correctly what you described.
>
> It doesn't work for me for some reason, and the documentation seems to imply that it shouldn't work. If using
> ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" started emacs in daemon mode, why would the documentation tell the user to
> run the "emacs --daemon" manually? Instead, what I get when I don't have an emacs in daemon mode, is just
> emacsclient telling me there's no emacs daemon running.
>
> Judging by your response, I feel I must be misunderstanding something, but I don't know what.
What happens if you try this command on your system? That is, if you
type
ALTERNATE_EDITOR='' emacsclient -t -c
What I see on a typical GNU/Linux system is this:
/home/e/eliz/emacs-current/lib-src/emacsclient: can't find socket; have you started the server?
To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start".
Warning: due to a long standing Gtk+ bug
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85715
Emacs might crash when run in daemon mode and the X11 connection is unexpectedly lost.
Using an Emacs configured with --with-x-toolkit=lucid does not have this problem.
("emacs")
Loading 00debian-vars...
[More packages loading from the site-init file...]
Starting Emacs daemon.
Restarting server
Emacs daemon should have started, trying to connect again
and then I see an Emacs frame (in text mode in this case, since -t was
used) open. As you see, after warning me about no daemon running,
emacsclient starts a new daemon, then attempts to reconnect to it.
What happens if you try that?
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> > > > > > I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will
not > > start up a new emacs instance with emacsclient. According to the
> > documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor >
> flag: > > > > If the value of EDITOR is the empty string,
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to > > start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it. > > > > So I
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please. > > Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Starting the daemon
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> > > > > > I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will
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> > documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor >
> flag: > > > > If the value of EDITOR is the empty string, run "emacs --daemon"
to > > start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it. > > > > So I
can't reproduce this issue anymore. Let me know if I'm missing > > something,
please. > > Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Starting the daemon
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:21 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:08:55 -0400
> > Cc: 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> >
> > I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will not
> > start up a new emacs instance with emacsclient. According to the
> > documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor
> > flag:
> >
> > If the value of EDITOR is the empty string, run "emacs --daemon" to
> > start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it.
> >
> > So I can't reproduce this issue anymore. Let me know if I'm missing
> > something, please.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Starting the daemon
> with ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" was part of the recipe; you seem to say it
> no longer works, although the documentation still says it should? It
> certainly works for me, if I understood correctly what you described.
>
It doesn't work for me for some reason, and the documentation seems to
imply that it shouldn't work. If using ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" started emacs
in daemon mode, why would the documentation tell the user to run the "emacs
--daemon" manually? Instead, what I get when I don't have an emacs in
daemon mode, is just emacsclient telling me there's no emacs daemon running.
Judging by your response, I feel I must be misunderstanding something, but
I don't know what.
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:21 PM Eli Zaretskii <<a href="mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">> From: Andrew Hyatt <<a href="mailto:ahyatt@HIDDEN" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ahyatt@HIDDEN</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:08:55 -0400<br class="gmail_msg">
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><br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will not<br class="gmail_msg">
> start up a new emacs instance with emacsclient. According to the<br class="gmail_msg">
> documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor<br class="gmail_msg">
> flag:<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> If the value of EDITOR is the empty string, run "emacs --daemon" to<br class="gmail_msg">
> start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it.<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> So I can't reproduce this issue anymore. Let me know if I'm missing<br class="gmail_msg">
> something, please.<br class="gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg">
Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Starting the daemon<br class="gmail_msg">
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no longer works, although the documentation still says it should? It<br class="gmail_msg">
certainly works for me, if I understood correctly what you described.<br class="gmail_msg"></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It doesn't work for me for some reason, and the documentation seems to imply that it shouldn't work. If using ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" started emacs in daemon mode, why would the documentation tell the user to run the "emacs --daemon" manually? Instead, what I get when I don't have an emacs in daemon mode, is just emacsclient telling me there's no emacs daemon running.</div><div><br></div><div>Judging by your response, I feel I must be misunderstanding something, but I don't know what.</div><div> </div></div></div>
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[74.73.128.199]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z52sm12564851qta.40.2016.09.07.22.09.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Sep 2016 22:09:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN> To: trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck) Subject: Re: bug#6685: 23.2; Discards control characters during boot. References: <87bpa160pk.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:08:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bpa160pk.fsf@HIDDEN> (Trent W. Buck's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:13:59 +1000") Message-ID: <m2poofrna0.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6685 Cc: 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) I was trying to reproduce this in Emacs 25, but emacsclient will not start up a new emacs instance with emacsclient. According to the documentation I have on emacsclient on using the alternative editor flag: If the value of EDITOR is the empty string, run "emacs --daemon" to start Emacs in daemon mode, and try to connect to it. So I can't reproduce this issue anymore. Let me know if I'm missing something, please. trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck) writes: > I start emacs with a wrapper script which boils down to > > ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" emacsclient -c -t > > In the past (23.1 or so), I could start emacs that way, and while the > daemon was loading in the background, I could type > > M-x irc C-m M-x gnus C-m > > and when the daemon finished loading, the IRC and GNUS functions would > run. Now, what happens is that I get > > xircxgnus > > appended to *scratch*. It seems pretty clear to me that Emacs has > started discarding control characters (^[ and ^M in my case). > > If this change was an attempt to fix a bug, it has actually fixed a > feature (for me), since I now have to wait a couple of seconds for the > frame to render before I can reliably start issuing commands. > > Note: I haven't reproduce this with --quick, because that starts too > fast and in any case I don't know how to make emacsclient -A='' pass -Q > to it's internal emacs --daemon invocation. > > In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) > of 2010-05-16 on barber, modified by Debian > configured using `configure '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/leim' '--with-x=no' '--without-gconf' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS='' > > Important settings: > value of $LC_ALL: nil > value of $LC_COLLATE: C > value of $LC_CTYPE: nil > value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil > value of $LC_MONETARY: nil > value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil > value of $LC_TIME: nil > value of $LANG: en_AU.utf8 > value of $XMODIFIERS: nil > locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix > default enable-multibyte-characters: t > > Major mode: Fundamental > > Minor modes in effect: > xterm-mouse-mode: t > ido-everywhere: t > savehist-mode: t > icomplete-mode: t > partial-completion-mode: t > show-paren-mode: t > delete-selection-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > auto-encryption-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > column-number-mode: t > line-number-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t > > Recent input: > t SPC w h e r e SPC ESC q SPC ESC O A e ESC O B ESC > q SPC s t a g e 1 SPC c a n ' t SPC f i n d SPC s t > a g e 2 . ESC b ESC b ESC b ( DEL ESC [ 4 ~ SPC SPC > S i g h . ESC O C ESC O B C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O > B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B C-w C-@ ESC O B ESC > O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O A C-w C-@ ESC O B > ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B C-g C-_ C-x C-x C-x C-x C-w > C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B > C-w C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC > O B C-w C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B > ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B C-x C-x ESC O A C-w > DEL C-x C-s RET RET ESC O B ESC O B DEL DEL DEL C-x > C-s ESC < ESC % SPC > RET > RET ! ESC O B DEL ESC O > A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC [ 1 ~ RET ESC > q ESC O A C-d ESC > C-x C-s C-x C-s ESC O A ESC q C-x > C-s C-x C-c q y ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a c s SPC > b u g RET > > Recent messages: > Mark set [2 times] > Replaced 5 occurrences > Mark set > Saving file /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a... > Wrote /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a > (No changes need to be saved) > Saving file /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a... > Wrote /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a > Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n) > (No changes need to be saved) > > Load-path shadows: > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/inf-haskell hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/inf-haskell > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-site-file hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-site-file > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-simple-indent hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-simple-indent > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-mode > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indentation hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indentation > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indent hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indent > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-hugs hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-hugs > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-ghci hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-ghci > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-font-lock hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-font-lock > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-doc hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-doc > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-decl-scan hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-decl-scan > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-cabal hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-cabal > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-c hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-c > /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/puppet-el/puppet-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/puppet-mode > /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/debian-startup hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup > /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/dictionaries-common/flyspell hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/textmodes/flyspell > /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/dictionaries-common/ispell hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/textmodes/ispell > > Features: > (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug newcomment vc-dispatcher vc-darcs cl > cl-19 xml parse-time timezone nndraft nnmh auth-source gnus-agent > gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art image mm-uu > mml2015 epg-config mm-view smime dig nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum nnoo > gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source format-spec gnus-start gnus-spec > gnus-int gnus-range message sendmail regexp-opt ecomplete rfc822 mml > easymenu mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap > mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils > mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash gnus-win gnus gnus-ems > nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr > wid-edit server jka-compr edmacro kmacro xt-mouse ido savehist icomplete > complete paren delsel saveplace debian-el debian-el-loaddefs w3m-load > emacs-goodies-el emacs-goodies-custom emacs-goodies-loaddefs easy-mmode > dpkg-dev-el dpkg-dev-el-loaddefs ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type > lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select mldrag mouse > jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian > utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean > japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian > cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev > loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay > md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget > hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind > multi-tty emacs)
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Full text available.Received: (at 6685) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2012 10:58:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 11 06:58:12 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SHvFc-0003HK-37 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:58:12 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:45911) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <trentbuck@HIDDEN>) id 1SHvFZ-0003HD-RZ for 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:58:10 -0400 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so1293443dan.29 for <6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:57:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=KWwD2/6OhqN9x6v8SquHgjpozEIwsGRSHEd6aAlM7MU=; b=bF/rRkY0PdrWCrn72vteFq1RcDWENbyKhRCXvSzfktQ5vAzYWzCS/ZPM+PYr/RNisP PBTZq5b9x1950EJ2xUx9qKpCYt5EBVGsXaeQHqkDUhrBMN0Gt/2FCRdJHq8UW+eTQfD2 pR2gg5XvR9yzWSSMH/tLmLqAUR07qsCbAvB1nW5HhfUuXiMUGJpY5NT52ZJUl2TyrAP8 kuWwIuCPT/B53eiSFiRhVW4yqJZLk3BFDp4CSA70xTCIaKoGjz1twehStoBYBQq11DzU DTmFGozr5wACtAPJ7+cvEmK5AyPKh00g3taickVrFHCVJFFogBe1tjySkYneHiG9sG+1 Zz9g== Received: by 10.68.200.5 with SMTP id jo5mr37929481pbc.42.1334141822609; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elba (ppp118-209-240-125.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net. [118.209.240.125]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6sm2587375pbl.24.2012.04.11.03.56.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:56:52 +1000 From: "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@HIDDEN> To: Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#6685: 23.2; Discards control characters during boot. Message-ID: <20120411105650.GA19872@elba> References: <87bpa160pk.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pqbevghy.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pqbevghy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6685 Cc: 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Chong Yidong wrote: > trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck) writes: > > > I start emacs with a wrapper script which boils down to > > > > ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" emacsclient -c -t > > > > In the past (23.1 or so), I could start emacs that way, and while the > > daemon was loading in the background, I could type > > > > M-x irc C-m M-x gnus C-m > > > > and when the daemon finished loading, the IRC and GNUS functions would > > run. Now, what happens is that I get > > > > xircxgnus > > > > appended to *scratch*. It seems pretty clear to me that Emacs has > > started discarding control characters (^[ and ^M in my case). > > As far as I can tell, this old bug was fixed by the introduction of > xterm-extra-capabilities (set it to nil to avoid discarding > pre-terminal-initialization input). That appears to be defined in lisp/term/xterm.el, so it will only be loaded when TERM=xterm. Currently this is not the case for me; TERM=screen and outside that TERM=linux (I am on the kernel fbcon). I believe that was also the case when I reported the original bug. (I have not actually tested this yet, as that variable is not available in the 23.3 I have to hand just now.)
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Full text available.Received: (at 6685) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2012 08:08:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 11 04:08:39 2012 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50301 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1SHsbX-00069x-E4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:08:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <cyd@HIDDEN>) id 1SHsbV-00069q-As for 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:08:38 -0400 Received: from [155.69.16.95] (port=49813 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <cyd@HIDDEN>) id 1SHsaP-0008Gg-ME; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:07:30 -0400 From: Chong Yidong <cyd@HIDDEN> To: trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck) Subject: Re: bug#6685: 23.2; Discards control characters during boot. References: <87bpa160pk.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:07:21 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87bpa160pk.fsf@HIDDEN> (Trent W. Buck's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:13:59 +1000") Message-ID: <87pqbevghy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.95 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6685 Cc: 6685 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck) writes: > I start emacs with a wrapper script which boils down to > > ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" emacsclient -c -t > > In the past (23.1 or so), I could start emacs that way, and while the > daemon was loading in the background, I could type > > M-x irc C-m M-x gnus C-m > > and when the daemon finished loading, the IRC and GNUS functions would > run. Now, what happens is that I get > > xircxgnus > > appended to *scratch*. It seems pretty clear to me that Emacs has > started discarding control characters (^[ and ^M in my case). As far as I can tell, this old bug was fixed by the introduction of xterm-extra-capabilities (set it to nil to avoid discarding pre-terminal-initialization input).
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From: trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck)
To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN
Subject: 23.2; Discards control characters during boot.
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:13:59 +1000
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I start emacs with a wrapper script which boils down to
ALTERNATIVE_EDITOR="" emacsclient -c -t
In the past (23.1 or so), I could start emacs that way, and while the
daemon was loading in the background, I could type
M-x irc C-m M-x gnus C-m
and when the daemon finished loading, the IRC and GNUS functions would
run. Now, what happens is that I get
xircxgnus
appended to *scratch*. It seems pretty clear to me that Emacs has
started discarding control characters (^[ and ^M in my case).
If this change was an attempt to fix a bug, it has actually fixed a
feature (for me), since I now have to wait a couple of seconds for the
frame to render before I can reliably start issuing commands.
Note: I haven't reproduce this with --quick, because that starts too
fast and in any case I don't know how to make emacsclient -A='' pass -Q
to it's internal emacs --daemon invocation.
In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
of 2010-05-16 on barber, modified by Debian
configured using `configure '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs23:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.2/leim' '--with-x=no' '--without-gconf' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g' 'CPPFLAGS=''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: C
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: en_AU.utf8
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Fundamental
Minor modes in effect:
xterm-mouse-mode: t
ido-everywhere: t
savehist-mode: t
icomplete-mode: t
partial-completion-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
delete-selection-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
t SPC w h e r e SPC ESC q SPC ESC O A e ESC O B ESC
q SPC s t a g e 1 SPC c a n ' t SPC f i n d SPC s t
a g e 2 . ESC b ESC b ESC b ( DEL ESC [ 4 ~ SPC SPC
S i g h . ESC O C ESC O B C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O
B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B C-w C-@ ESC O B ESC
O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O A C-w C-@ ESC O B
ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B C-g C-_ C-x C-x C-x C-x C-w
C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B
C-w C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC
O B C-w C-@ ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B
ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B C-x C-x ESC O A C-w
DEL C-x C-s RET RET ESC O B ESC O B DEL DEL DEL C-x
C-s ESC < ESC % SPC > RET > RET ! ESC O B DEL ESC O
A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC [ 1 ~ RET ESC
q ESC O A C-d ESC > C-x C-s C-x C-s ESC O A ESC q C-x
C-s C-x C-c q y ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a c s SPC
b u g RET
Recent messages:
Mark set [2 times]
Replaced 5 occurrences
Mark set
Saving file /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a...
Wrote /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a
(No changes need to be saved)
Saving file /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a...
Wrote /tmp/mutt-dali-1000-1258-11239a89bc4892b64a
Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n)
(No changes need to be saved)
Load-path shadows:
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/inf-haskell hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/inf-haskell
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-site-file hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-site-file
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-simple-indent hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-simple-indent
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-mode
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indentation hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indentation
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indent hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-indent
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-hugs hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-hugs
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-ghci hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-ghci
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-font-lock hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-font-lock
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-doc hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-doc
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-decl-scan hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-decl-scan
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-cabal hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-cabal
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-c hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-c
/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/puppet-el/puppet-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/puppet-mode
/usr/share/emacs/23.2/site-lisp/debian-startup hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/dictionaries-common/flyspell hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/textmodes/flyspell
/usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/dictionaries-common/ispell hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/textmodes/ispell
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug newcomment vc-dispatcher vc-darcs cl
cl-19 xml parse-time timezone nndraft nnmh auth-source gnus-agent
gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art image mm-uu
mml2015 epg-config mm-view smime dig nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum nnoo
gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source format-spec gnus-start gnus-spec
gnus-int gnus-range message sendmail regexp-opt ecomplete rfc822 mml
easymenu mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap
mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils
mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash gnus-win gnus gnus-ems
nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr
wid-edit server jka-compr edmacro kmacro xt-mouse ido savehist icomplete
complete paren delsel saveplace debian-el debian-el-loaddefs w3m-load
emacs-goodies-el emacs-goodies-custom emacs-goodies-loaddefs easy-mmode
dpkg-dev-el dpkg-dev-el-loaddefs ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select mldrag mouse
jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian
utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian
cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev
loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay
md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind
multi-tty emacs)
trentbuck@HIDDEN (Trent W. Buck):bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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