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Leo, Wilko, what do you think? > > The package named 'linux-libre' is by definition the latest stable > kernel: > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/linux.scm?id=22a34ea792ef0df15fd30d46f557b572c61d5404#n513 > > Should we add an alias for it? This wasn't requested... I guess the main use here is using older kernels. > We also have a package called 'linux-libre-lts', which is supposed to be > the most recent kernel with long-term support. Michael, did you know about 'linux-libre-lts' ? It seems it would suite your 'linux-libre-longterm' request well? > I think the phrasing "longterm" is more idiomatic for Linux, so we could > replace the -lts package with a -longterm package if people prefer that. Sorry, I had forgotten we already had -lts. I guess we're already covered then. For the linux-libre-headers, I agree that the current situation is odd at best; it should be renamed to linux-libre-headers/pinned or something, since it's propagated by our build toolchain if I recall correctly and entails a world rebuild. linux-libre-headers could then point to the latest and greatest, in sync with linux-libre. Does that make sense? Renaming the package variable shouldn't cause any rebuild. -- Thanks, Maxim
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Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:50:54 -0400 From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: [bug#66968] [PATCH] gnu: linux-libre: add linux-libre-stable & linux-libre-longterm Message-ID: <ZuRfXlyQ3Av8y9IP@HIDDEN> References: <CAFyhPjW_ouvj8+_Fph4Rp838dqW8Re8dBx-5yjit5DxD0b=AXA@HIDDEN> <87wmjfwrhh.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wmjfwrhh.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66968 Cc: Wilko Meyer <w@HIDDEN>, Michael Ford <fanquake@HIDDEN>, 66968 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 11:36:10PM +0900, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > > (define-public linux-libre-headers linux-libre-headers-5.15.49) > > +(define-public linux-libre-stable linux-libre-headers-6.5) > > +(define-public linux-libre-longterm linux-libre-headers-6.1) > > Sounds like a reasonable thing to have. Leo, Wilko, what do you think? The package named 'linux-libre' is by definition the latest stable kernel: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/linux.scm?id=22a34ea792ef0df15fd30d46f557b572c61d5404#n513 Should we add an alias for it? We also have a package called 'linux-libre-lts', which is supposed to be the most recent kernel with long-term support. I think the phrasing "longterm" is more idiomatic for Linux, so we could replace the -lts package with a -longterm package if people prefer that.
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This way, we can point to i.e the longterm > branch, and with each time-machine "bump", continue to have whatever the > current longerm branch happens to be. So I'm submitting this patch for > discussion / inclusion. Obviouly one overhead is remembering to keep > these variables in sync whenever the status of the longterm/stable > branches changes. > > * gnu/packages/linux (linux-libre-stable): New variable. > (linux-libre-longerm): New variable. > --- > gnu/packages/linux.scm | 2 ++ > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/gnu/packages/linux.scm b/gnu/packages/linux.scm > index 95a66e3d6a..a50526734e 100644 > --- a/gnu/packages/linux.scm > +++ b/gnu/packages/linux.scm > @@ -790,6 +790,8 @@ (define-public linux-libre-headers-5.15.49 > > "13zqdcm4664vh7g57sxbfrlpsxm7zrma72mxdfdz7d9yndy2gfv8")) > > (define-public linux-libre-headers linux-libre-headers-5.15.49) > +(define-public linux-libre-stable linux-libre-headers-6.5) > +(define-public linux-libre-longterm linux-libre-headers-6.1) Sounds like a reasonable thing to have. Leo, Wilko, what do you think? Reviewed-by: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail> -- Thanks, Maxim
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This way, we can point to i.e the longterm branch, and with each time-machine "bump", continue to have whatever the current longerm branch happens to be. So I'm submitting this patch for discussion / inclusion. Obviouly one overhead is remembering to keep these variables in sync whenever the status of the longterm/stable branches changes. * gnu/packages/linux (linux-libre-stable): New variable. (linux-libre-longerm): New variable. --- gnu/packages/linux.scm | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) diff --git a/gnu/packages/linux.scm b/gnu/packages/linux.scm index 95a66e3d6a..a50526734e 100644 --- a/gnu/packages/linux.scm +++ b/gnu/packages/linux.scm @@ -790,6 +790,8 @@ (define-public linux-libre-headers-5.15.49 "13zqdcm4664vh7g57sxbfrlpsxm7zrma72mxdfdz7d9yndy2gfv8")) (define-public linux-libre-headers linux-libre-headers-5.15.49) +(define-public linux-libre-stable linux-libre-headers-6.5) +(define-public linux-libre-longterm linux-libre-headers-6.1) ;;; -- 2.42.1
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