Received: (at 67062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2023 07:09:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 13 02:09:15 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1r2R4N-0006M4-FG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:09:15 -0500 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::226]:56359) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1r2R4K-0006Lj-Ig for 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:09:14 -0500 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9EC0FC0005; Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:08:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) In-Reply-To: <2f7c9164-4a64-91c6-245e-61208de8560c@HIDDEN> (Jim Porter's message of "Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:13:58 -0800") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> <ea6fbea1-d918-f534-4dd3-ee29b631cc6d@HIDDEN> <83bkbzusri.fsf@HIDDEN> <ad938cf5-201a-79f0-2b29-c4e0db230f9f@HIDDEN> <86msvi95aw.fsf@HIDDEN> <8742d731-62ba-0808-bdc6-cbad1cf98116@HIDDEN> <2f7c9164-4a64-91c6-245e-61208de8560c@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:02:35 +0200 Message-ID: <868r72895g.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > We just want to take that revision and turn it into a friendlier > (read: shorter) form for the buffer name. Then the best solution is to introduce a new variable 'vc-short-revision' that vc-annotate should either set as a buffer-local value or let-bind around the vc backend API call. Then the git backend could use it optionally depending on the value of a new user option 'vc-git-short-revision'. This is much better that adding a new API call. We don't add new API calls lightly since any change in API requires updating the documentation at the top of vc.el and at the top of vc backend implementation files.
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What about something >> like this? I'm not sure it's better, but it does let us avoid defining >> a no-op implementation for the "default backend". > > Looks worse to me than having the default "identity" implementation. > > Sorry. > > Though it might go in anyway, since Eli likes it. I'll do whichever gets the patch merged. While I personally find the no-op implementation for the default backend to be cleaner, doing it the other way doesn't bother me enough that I'll fight for it.
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All for a new argument > that isn't used by the majority of the backends. Also, it wouldn't work for what we want to do: REV in 'vc-annotate' isn't necessarily the current revision; it could be any revision. We just want to take that revision and turn it into a friendlier (read: shorter) form for the buffer name.
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We couldn't modify >> vc-working-revision for this, so it'll have to be a new function. > But maybe could add a new optional arg to vc-working-revision? That's worse: we'll end up with a number-of-args migration, having to use a condition-case form for a number of years. All for a new argument that isn't used by the majority of the backends.
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What about something > like this? I'm not sure it's better, but it does let us avoid defining a > no-op implementation for the "default backend". Looks worse to me than having the default "identity" implementation. Sorry. Though it might go in anyway, since Eli likes it.
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 29-20020a17090a005d00b0027d0af2e9c3sm5062070pjb.40.2023.11.12.11.33.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:33:34 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------m5emtLkPTcR2Mwdcp8nCjVjK" Message-ID: <6335942d-b12b-1cdc-028f-d26722ea0d37@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:33:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> <399f2f1e-7c1f-e272-2a9d-4e36e8d8666b@HIDDEN> <83zfziu6ra.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83zfziu6ra.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: dmitry@HIDDEN, 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------m5emtLkPTcR2Mwdcp8nCjVjK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/12/2023 11:11 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:07:38 -0800 >> Cc: 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> >> >> In any case, we don't necessarily need to provide a default >> implementation for the 'short-revision' function. What about something >> like this? I'm not sure it's better, but it does let us avoid defining a >> no-op implementation for the "default backend". > > Fine by me, except that I think this should be optional behavior. Ok, how about this? If you think I should add a bit about this to the manual, let me know. However, it seems like a fairly minor thing to me, and I don't want to distract the manual reader from the more-useful parts. (I also welcome a suggestion on a shorter name than 'vc-annotate-abbreviate-revision-in-buffer-name', but I wanted to be careful not to give the impression that this would apply to the revision IDs that you see in the VC-Annotate buffer's *contents*. 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Full text available.Received: (at 67062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2023 19:12:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 12 14:12:12 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57021 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1r2FsR-0006pi-Tn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:12:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1r2FsP-0006pV-W8 for 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:12:10 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1r2Frf-0000Xp-G1; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:11:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=C9yJiumuQeFkYhRSSVTHF7l13jPVBVe4YnLS/LfTYB4=; b=o/gQxBsinBe9 lXCmwaB5PjsgXu760+iFnmNg1ktlb0iojBBnRxhMECa+Vx2yNer4XLGIWWilnugU2EL61krbvmaRr 6Qe75Inw4JGEoqtnqr34t0kEls/VyS5O6OlXn3uR9mH+9JOirHfhJH3Arsp5ONVNMNkIvfvXsanmM 9T88wFkB1flBOww7E3fI4AXwG3+HTZV+fOclNWXgAa7tvftXg/k6+VO09aK9rGGWjmGv9YUpd5oTu IHZp85DYvAXN/3VpM50DZmFcA4AtcKdJTk0VFrzQBDfv0lo02PlVZApYUj+nTz3qArzAKK3FGCpdY hmHh/1K+afHTMsMpUNMSyQ==; Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:11:05 +0200 Message-Id: <83zfziu6ra.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <399f2f1e-7c1f-e272-2a9d-4e36e8d8666b@HIDDEN> (message from Jim Porter on Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:07:38 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> <399f2f1e-7c1f-e272-2a9d-4e36e8d8666b@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: dmitry@HIDDEN, 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:07:38 -0800 > Cc: 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> > > In any case, we don't necessarily need to provide a default > implementation for the 'short-revision' function. What about something > like this? I'm not sure it's better, but it does let us avoid defining a > no-op implementation for the "default backend". Fine by me, except that I think this should be optional behavior.
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id ij26-20020a170902ab5a00b001c32fd9e412sm2939928plb.58.2023.11.12.11.07.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:07:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------77zRDhpPKRNiKYOcII2SmIhM" Message-ID: <399f2f1e-7c1f-e272-2a9d-4e36e8d8666b@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:07:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Language: en-US From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------77zRDhpPKRNiKYOcII2SmIhM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/11/2023 10:03 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 00:00:13 +0200 >> Cc: 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> >> >> Our general approach is to prefer global options and dynamic dispatch on >> backends, resorting to using per-backend options when it's much easier >> to do. > > Which I think is the case here. What other VC backend has such long > revision strings? I couldn't think of any. Game of Trees[1] is one, though you could argue that that's cheating because it uses the Git repository format. It does have a GNU ELPA package though, so the author would probably want to add a 'vc-got-short-revision' function. (Or something similar depending on what this patch looks like if/when it merges.) Looking at some GoT repositories, they *do* still use the long SHA-1 hashes for revision identifiers. In fact, there are at least a couple Git-compatible VCSes now. Facebook wrote one called "Sapling", though I haven't used it. Based on some screenshots at least, it looks like Sapling also uses SHA-1 hashes for revision IDs. In any case, we don't necessarily need to provide a default implementation for the 'short-revision' function. What about something like this? I'm not sure it's better, but it does let us avoid defining a no-op implementation for the "default backend". 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Full text available.Received: (at 67062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2023 18:50:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 12 13:50:06 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1r2FX4-0006JP-8x for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:50:06 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:45789) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1r2FX2-0006Iq-4Z for 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:50:05 -0500 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7CFB40004; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:49:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) In-Reply-To: <ad938cf5-201a-79f0-2b29-c4e0db230f9f@HIDDEN> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:21:29 +0200") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> <ea6fbea1-d918-f534-4dd3-ee29b631cc6d@HIDDEN> <83bkbzusri.fsf@HIDDEN> <ad938cf5-201a-79f0-2b29-c4e0db230f9f@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:48:07 +0200 Message-ID: <86msvi95aw.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: jporterbugs@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> no, vc-annotate will call a new function, which will have a special >> code for Git alone. > > That's one extra indirection, but conceptually the same. We couldn't modify > vc-working-revision for this, so it'll have to be a new function. But maybe could add a new optional arg to vc-working-revision?
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Sun, 12 Nov 2023 06:21:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <ad938cf5-201a-79f0-2b29-c4e0db230f9f@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:21:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> <83sf5bv77j.fsf@HIDDEN> <ea6fbea1-d918-f534-4dd3-ee29b631cc6d@HIDDEN> <83bkbzusri.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83bkbzusri.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: jporterbugs@HIDDEN, 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On 12/11/2023 13:15, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > no, vc-annotate will call a new function, which will have a special > code for Git alone. That's one extra indirection, but conceptually the same. We couldn't modify vc-working-revision for this, so it'll have to be a new function. And the new function (name pending) will need to check (eq backend 'Git) and call vc-git-short-revision anyway.
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All we need is a new function to call instead > of vc-working-revision, that's all. That new function will indicate > the intention to the backend. Sounds easy enough. vc-annotate will check (if (eq backend 'Git)) and call a different function in such case? Rather dirty, but I guess that'll also work.
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c64-20020a17090a494600b0027cf8869ee7sm4169052pjh.0.2023.11.11.16.31.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Nov 2023 16:31:44 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------804uT0Llz0kr8Zurueu6Xc2O" Message-ID: <2f7f9967-496c-163a-fa46-58b255a7e8a0@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 16:31:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) Content-Language: en-US To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------804uT0Llz0kr8Zurueu6Xc2O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/11/2023 2:00 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 11/11/2023 09:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> If this is a Git-only issue, perhaps it would be better to have a >> Git-only option, instead of defining a whole new VC method? > > Our general approach is to prefer global options and dynamic dispatch on > backends, resorting to using per-backend options when it's much easier > to do. > > In this case it might actually be more difficult to go the second route > since the intention is to only use the short hash in this particular > place. vc-annotate is common code and it will need to indicate that > intention to the backend somehow. Thanks for taking a look. It sounds like the strategy I went with is at least approximately right, so here's an updated patch with a NEWS entry. I looked through the manuals and didn't see anywhere to add a mention of this though. There's a section about 'vc-annotate', but it's written for an Emacs user, rather than an Elisp programmer, and I think trying to explain "short revisions" in that section would just add unnecessary detail. If we still want to add some mention of this to a manual, I guess it would make the most sense in some section about how to use the VC package as an Elisp programmer. 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Sat, 11 Nov 2023 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2eb31324-ae24-db4b-4f62-a0140bfb9f81@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 00:00:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: bug#67062: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> References: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83y1f4wxby.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67062 Cc: 67062 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On 11/11/2023 09:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If this is a Git-only issue, perhaps it would be better to have a > Git-only option, instead of defining a whole new VC method? Our general approach is to prefer global options and dynamic dispatch on backends, resorting to using per-backend options when it's much easier to do. In this case it might actually be more difficult to go the second route since the intention is to only use the short hash in this particular place. vc-annotate is common code and it will need to indicate that intention to the backend somehow.
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Perhaps, though I'm not sure the best way to do that. I'll also take a look at some other VC backends to see if they could benefit. I usually use Git these days, so I haven't tried vc-annotate using a different backend. > In any case, please document whatever is eventually accepted, both in > NEWS and in the manual. Definitely. This was just a sketch of a patch to make sure the idea makes sense and to get feedback on whether I should do this in a totally different way (which would likely require totally different documentation too).
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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 5-20020a17090a19c500b0026f39c90111sm489817pjj.20.2023.11.10.18.49.58 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:49:59 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------r0mWTxxpCVyAoQHXsdzsz4pC" Message-ID: <66fc4912-6aa5-79da-bd6f-52f068cf1a77@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:49:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.gmane.io:119 Content-Language: en-US From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> Subject: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Abbreviate the revision in 'vc-annotate' (for Git) To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4860:4864:20::2d; envelope-from=jporterbugs@HIDDEN; helo=mail-oa1-x2d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------r0mWTxxpCVyAoQHXsdzsz4pC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently, when running 'vc-annotate' for a Git repo, the buffer name is very long: it has the form "*Annotate FILE (rev REVISION)*", and for Git, REVISION is 40(?) characters long. 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