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From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus mode-line logo?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 15:00:51 +0100

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Hi,

Here is a patch to have a SVG version of the Gnus mode-line logo.  I
have used "etc/images/gnus/gnus.svg" as a base, removed the shadow and
just kept the head of the Gnu.

I have chosen to remove the stroke color so the foreground color of the
default face will be used to draw the icon.  I think it is better to
match any themes.

I have kept all the copyright information from gnus.svg but I think it
could also be minified a bit by stripping it.  WDYT?

Best regards,

[0001-Gnus-mode-line-logo-in-SVG.patch (text/x-patch, attachment)]

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-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #8 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
 text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:59:22 +0100

Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Here is a patch to have a SVG version of the Gnus mode-line logo.  I
> have used "etc/images/gnus/gnus.svg" as a base, removed the shadow and
> just kept the head of the Gnu.
>
> I have chosen to remove the stroke color so the foreground color of the
> default face will be used to draw the icon.  I think it is better to
> match any themes.
>
> I have kept all the copyright information from gnus.svg but I think it
> could also be minified a bit by stripping it.  WDYT?

Looks good to me, thank you! For my amusement I rebuilt Emacs without
SVG support and it correctly fell back to the xpm file.

I think it's fine to leave the copyright information etc just as it is
in gnus.svg. Maybe let's give it a day in case a maintainer wants to
chime in, but I'd expect it's fine as-is.

Thanks,
Eric

Message #11 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:19:52 +0100

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

[...]

> Looks good to me, thank you! For my amusement I rebuilt Emacs without
> SVG support and it correctly fell back to the xpm file.
>
> I think it's fine to leave the copyright information etc just as it is
> in gnus.svg. Maybe let's give it a day in case a maintainer wants to
> chime in, but I'd expect it's fine as-is.

Hi Eric and thanks for the kind words,

The thing I am not really sure about is the scaling.  Like it is done
for the xpm, this image is set to ":scale 1" but as it is a SVG it might
make sense to scale it to the mode-line's char-height.  I don't know how
to do that though.
-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #17 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 12:10:42 -0800

Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> Looks good to me, thank you! For my amusement I rebuilt Emacs without
>> SVG support and it correctly fell back to the xpm file.
>>
>> I think it's fine to leave the copyright information etc just as it is
>> in gnus.svg. Maybe let's give it a day in case a maintainer wants to
>> chime in, but I'd expect it's fine as-is.
>
> Hi Eric and thanks for the kind words,
>
> The thing I am not really sure about is the scaling.  Like it is done
> for the xpm, this image is set to ":scale 1" but as it is a SVG it might
> make sense to scale it to the mode-line's char-height.  I don't know how
> to do that though.

Hmm, I couldn't find an explicit statement of this in the manual, but it
looks to me that, since we're using the 'display text property, the
:scale property will already be relative to the text that _would have
been displayed there_. IOW, we're already scaled to the text. The text
property is applied to the "^Gnus:" part of a string, so 5 characters,
and that's our base.

Anyway, if you're concerned that the icon might bulge out the mode line
or something, I don't think that will happen.

Eric

Message #20 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:23:27 +0100

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

[...]

> Hmm, I couldn't find an explicit statement of this in the manual, but it
> looks to me that, since we're using the 'display text property, the
> :scale property will already be relative to the text that _would have
> been displayed there_. IOW, we're already scaled to the text. The text
> property is applied to the "^Gnus:" part of a string, so 5 characters,
> and that's our base.

I don't know how it works for you but for me the pixmap version is
always the same size whatever the font size I'm using.

> Anyway, if you're concerned that the icon might bulge out the mode line
> or something, I don't think that will happen.

Yes, I have tested with really tiny font and the icon (pixmap or SVG)
never bulge.  So all in all, I think that this patch could go in as is.
-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #25 received at 67174-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:01:34 -0800

On 11/20/23 10:23 AM, Manuel Giraud wrote:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> Hmm, I couldn't find an explicit statement of this in the manual, but it
>> looks to me that, since we're using the 'display text property, the
>> :scale property will already be relative to the text that _would have
>> been displayed there_. IOW, we're already scaled to the text. The text
>> property is applied to the "^Gnus:" part of a string, so 5 characters,
>> and that's our base.
>
> I don't know how it works for you but for me the pixmap version is
> always the same size whatever the font size I'm using.

I suppose that makes sense! Given that it's a pixmap. But not an issue
for us.

>> Anyway, if you're concerned that the icon might bulge out the mode line
>> or something, I don't think that will happen.
>
> Yes, I have tested with really tiny font and the icon (pixmap or SVG)
> never bulge.  So all in all, I think that this patch could go in as is.

Done! Thanks for the patch.

Message #28 received at 67174-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: 67174-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:35:02 +0100

Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

[...]

> Done! Thanks for the patch.

Thank you!
-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #31 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2023 12:55:20 +0530

[செவ்வாய் நவம்பர் 14, 2023] Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote:

[ Sorry for the late reply.  ]

> Hi,
>
> Here is a patch to have a SVG version of the Gnus mode-line logo.  I
> have used "etc/images/gnus/gnus.svg" as a base, removed the shadow and
> just kept the head of the Gnu.
>
> I have chosen to remove the stroke color so the foreground color of the
> default face will be used to draw the icon.  I think it is better to
> match any themes.
>
> I have kept all the copyright information from gnus.svg but I think it
> could also be minified a bit by stripping it.  WDYT?
>
> Best regards,

The logo looks really clean but unfortunately it is not the same blue
anymore.  Is this something we should care about?  Personally, I liked
the nice blue colour of the Gnus logo in the mode-line: a hint of colour
in the otherwise monochrome mode-line.

Message #34 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2023 10:01:17 +0100

Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> The logo looks really clean but unfortunately it is not the same blue
> anymore.  Is this something we should care about?  Personally, I liked
> the nice blue colour of the Gnus logo in the mode-line: a hint of colour
> in the otherwise monochrome mode-line.

Hi,

I think that this blue was working with light themes (BTW this is what I
use most of the time) but not so much with dark themes.  Hence, I did
not set the foreground color in the SVG for it to have the default
foreground color.

I think that if we should do something about it the best would be to
define a new face for it (or better, maybe use an already existing one…
but which one?)

Best regards,
-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #37 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:39:14 +0530

[திங்கள் நவம்பர் 27, 2023] Manuel Giraud wrote:

>> The logo looks really clean but unfortunately it is not the same blue
>> anymore.  Is this something we should care about?  Personally, I liked
>> the nice blue colour of the Gnus logo in the mode-line: a hint of colour
>> in the otherwise monochrome mode-line.
>
> Hi,
>
> I think that this blue was working with light themes (BTW this is what I
> use most of the time) but not so much with dark themes.  Hence, I did
> not set the foreground color in the SVG for it to have the default
> foreground color.

Ah, I see.  I have never used a dark theme myself so I didn't know.

> I think that if we should do something about it the best would be to
> define a new face for it (or better, maybe use an already existing one…
> but which one?)

That would be nice to have since I do like the little splash of colour.

Message #44 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 12:53:20 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> That would be nice to have since I do like the little splash of
> colour.

Hi Visuwesh (and all),

What do you think of this attached patch?  Now that SVG are honoring the
colors of the face property, I just add a face property to the logo.

I have chosen 'font-lock-function-name-face' because it is a somewhat
standard face and it is of color Blue1 (#0000ff) with the default Emacs
theme (this is the same color of the XPM logo).

Using a face property also have the nice property (😁) of automatically
adapt to any other theme.
-- 
Manuel Giraud

[0001-Colorize-SVG-Gnus-logo-in-mode-line.patch (text/x-patch, attachment)]

Message #47 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:38:15 +0530

[சனி பிப்ரவரி 03, 2024] Manuel Giraud wrote:

Hello Manuel,

> Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> That would be nice to have since I do like the little splash of
>> colour.
>
> Hi Visuwesh (and all),
>
> What do you think of this attached patch?  Now that SVG are honoring the
> colors of the face property, I just add a face property to the logo.
>
> I have chosen 'font-lock-function-name-face' because it is a somewhat
> standard face and it is of color Blue1 (#0000ff) with the default Emacs
> theme (this is the same color of the XPM logo).
>
> Using a face property also have the nice property (😁) of automatically
> adapt to any other theme.

I know that I asked about adding a splash of colour to the mode-line but
now that I have run the monochrome Gnus logo, I don't feel the need for
the splash of colour anymore.  But if general consensus is that we add a
new face for this, can we add a new face that inherits from
font-lock-function-name-face instead?  I, for one, set every face to
inherit from default and change some to use different fonts so I would
still end up with a monochrome logo if I decide to have it coloured.

Message #50 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2024 16:52:28 +0100

Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> writes:

> [சனி பிப்ரவரி 03, 2024] Manuel Giraud wrote:
>
> Hello Manuel,
>
>> Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> That would be nice to have since I do like the little splash of
>>> colour.
>>
>> Hi Visuwesh (and all),
>>
>> What do you think of this attached patch?  Now that SVG are honoring the
>> colors of the face property, I just add a face property to the logo.
>>
>> I have chosen 'font-lock-function-name-face' because it is a somewhat
>> standard face and it is of color Blue1 (#0000ff) with the default Emacs
>> theme (this is the same color of the XPM logo).
>>
>> Using a face property also have the nice property (😁) of automatically
>> adapt to any other theme.
>
> I know that I asked about adding a splash of colour to the mode-line but
> now that I have run the monochrome Gnus logo, I don't feel the need for
> the splash of colour anymore.  But if general consensus is that we add a
> new face for this, can we add a new face that inherits from
> font-lock-function-name-face instead?

Hi Visuwesh,

Yes, that would make much more sense indeed.  But like you now, I'm used
to the monochrome logo so if no one pushes for this change maybe it
could be abandoned.
-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #53 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>, Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:42:35 -0800

Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Yes, that would make much more sense indeed.  But like you now, I'm used
> to the monochrome logo so if no one pushes for this change maybe it
> could be abandoned.

The vectorization still makes sense though, doesn't it?  What with HiDPI
screens these days and all.

Message #56 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>,
 Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus mode-line logo?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 06:13:39 +0530

On 9 February 2024 03:12:35 GMT+05:30, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
>text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Yes, that would make much more sense indeed.  But like you now, I'm used
>> to the monochrome logo so if no one pushes for this change maybe it
>> could be abandoned.
>
>The vectorization still makes sense though, doesn't it?  What with HiDPI
>screens these days and all.

Yes, the svg was pushed to master months back so we already have the vectorised logo with us.

Message #59 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 11:14:37 +0100

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Yes, that would make much more sense indeed.  But like you now, I'm used
>> to the monochrome logo so if no one pushes for this change maybe it
>> could be abandoned.
>
> The vectorization still makes sense though, doesn't it?  What with HiDPI
> screens these days and all.

Yes, I was only talking about the "splash of colour" requested by
Visuwesh at the time (this bug report has drifted a bit :-)
-- 
Manuel Giraud

Message #62 received at 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: 67174 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#67174: 30.0.50; [PATCH] What about a vectorized Gnus
 mode-line logo?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:19:12 -0600

tags 67174 + fixed
thanks

Manuel Giraud <manuel <at> ledu-giraud.fr> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The vectorization still makes sense though, doesn't it?  What with HiDPI
>> screens these days and all.
>
> Yes, I was only talking about the "splash of colour" requested by
> Visuwesh at the time (this bug report has drifted a bit :-)

OK, let's tag this as fixed.  If there are no further comments within
some time, I suppose we could close this.

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