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> I'm adding Martin to this discussion in the hope that he could have
> some ideas.
I've been going back through your earlier comments and found:
> The basic technical reason for what you see is that redisplay is
> inhibited when with-selected-window returns and restores the selected
> window, which is in your case the opportunity to resize the
> mini-window. When redisplay is inhibited, the code which resizes the
> mini-window returns without doing anything. So one way of fixing this
> would be to try to avoid with-selected-window, and instead use some
> other way of achieving what you want to do.
I doubt that this is the problem because
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
(with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")
(make-frame))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(with-current-buffer (window-buffer (minibuffer-window))
(unwind-protect
(progn
(setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0)))
(insert "hello")
(read-key))
(erase-buffer))))
doesn't resize the minibuffer either. IIUC Markus was just lucky that
this worked earlier because then the frame title code resized the
minibuffer window. After the fix of Bug#24285 it doesn't do that any
more.
martin
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> I'm showing you all the methods I can come up with. Maybe Martin or
> others will have better ideas (so please don't elide their addresses
> when replying).
Yes thank you and Martin! Here is an example of my use case, using a
slight generalization of the original snippet:
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
;; (with-selected-frame (make-frame)
;; (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
(when win
(with-selected-window win
(recenter 0)))
(with-selected-window (minibuffer-window)
(unwind-protect
(progn
(setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0)))
(insert "M-x ")
(read-key)
(let ((chars (string-to-list "emacs-uptime")))
(while chars
(insert (char-to-string (pop chars)))
(when chars
(sit-for 0.3))))
(read-key))
(erase-buffer)))))
The snippet simulates what occurs if I were to press M-x, by inserting
"M-x " in the minibuffer. It then waits for a key press. After I press a
key, it simulates what would occur if I were to type emacs-uptime, by
writing "emacs-uptime" in the minibuffer in such a way that the
minibuffer content changes as if someone typed that command.
It all works as intended in all Emacs versions I tried, except if I
uncomment the two lines that are commented out in the snippet above:
Then, Emacs 28.2 and later versions no longer show the minibuffer fully.
Thank you and all the best,
Markus
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> I'm adding Martin to this discussion in the hope that he could have
> some ideas.
Yes, thank you a lot Martin, I would greatly appreciate if you could
also look into this issue and help with it! For you in particular, it
may be interesting that the snippet works completely as expected if only
a single frame is present. For example, if I change the original snippet
by commenting out two lines to obtain:
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
;; (with-selected-frame (make-frame)
;; (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
(when win
(with-selected-window win
(recenter 0)))
(with-selected-window (minibuffer-window)
(unwind-protect
(progn
(setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0)))
(insert "hello")
(read-key))
(erase-buffer)))))
then "hello" is fully visible in the minibuffer, as expected! The
existence and prior, even only temporary, selection of another frame
unexpectedly prevents the entire minibuffer content to be shown. My
expectation would be for another frame to have no influence here.
Thank you and all the best,
Markus
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>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > I'm not sure I understood, but if you put a face on some text, and
> > then type at the end of that text, the additional text you type is
> > supposed to "inherit" that face, no?
>
> I mean: When my program runs, I do not type anything myself, but the
> program simulates that something is being typed by me. For example, when
> I ask the program to perform one step, it may simulate that M-x is
> pressed, by inserting the text "M-x " in the minibuffer, and then wait
> for further instructions (by me). When I then ask the program to perform
> the next step, it may simulate that "emacs-uptime" is being typed, and
> thus incrementally add the letters "e", "m", "a", ... to the minibuffer
> while waiting for a short amount of time after each letter, until (in
> total) "M-x emacs-uptime" appears in the minibuffer. The goal is that we
> can simulate the effects of typing while minimizing manual effort.
>
> This all already works as expected in Emacs versions before 28.2, and it
> works to a large extent also in later versions. The only remaining
> problem I have with Emacs 28.2 and later versions is that in situations
> like the one I posted, the minibuffer is no longer adequately grown to
> fully display the text it contains (because the program wrote it there).
>
> With your snippet, I can work around a very specific case of this, where
> a single string is shown in the minibuffer. For my use case though, this
> is not yet enough, because my program simulates manual edits by changing
> text in the minibuffer, such as adding or removing individual letters.
You could perhaps use 'message'. Here's a trivial demo:
(defun my-msg ()
(interactive)
(message (propertize "something" 'face '(:height 2.0))))
(defun my-msg2 ()
(interactive)
(message (propertize "something else" 'face '(:height 2.0))))
(global-set-key [f5] 'my-msg)
(global-set-key [f6] 'my-msg2)
Evaluate the above, then press F5 followed by F6.
> I am therefore interested in ways to grow the minibuffer so that it is
> large enough, while allowing very flexible editing operations to be
> simulated in it that go beyond showing a single string.
I'm showing you all the methods I can come up with. Maybe Martin or
others will have better ideas (so please don't elide their addresses
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Full text available.Received: (at 67715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2023 21:11:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 09 16:11:53 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49088 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rC4c4-0006wD-Tf for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 16:11:53 -0500 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (port=56268 helo=metalevel.at) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <triska@HIDDEN>) id 1rC4c1-0006w2-Rs for 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 16:11:50 -0500 Received: by metalevel.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A90B99C76B; Sat, 9 Dec 2023 22:11:34 +0100 (CET) From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#67715: 28.2; Minibuffer content is sometimes unexpectedly partially hidden References: <87plzg5xff.fsf@HIDDEN> <838r64zb3r.fsf@HIDDEN> <874jgrvotz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wmtnyffx.fsf@HIDDEN> <878r63vjal.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sf4bwbpy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0jvf88j.fsf@HIDDEN> <83msujw2ks.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 22:11:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83msujw2ks.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 09 Dec 2023 22:20:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87y1e3axo9.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure I understood, but if you put a face on some text, and > then type at the end of that text, the additional text you type is > supposed to "inherit" that face, no? Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67715 Cc: 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure I understood, but if you put a face on some text, and > then type at the end of that text, the additional text you type is > supposed to "inherit" that face, no? I mean: When my program runs, I do not type anything myself, but the program simulates that something is being typed by me. For example, when I ask the program to perform one step, it may simulate that M-x is pressed, by inserting the text "M-x " in the minibuffer, and then wait for further instructions (by me). When I then ask the program to perform the next step, it may simulate that "emacs-uptime" is being typed, and thus incrementally add the letters "e", "m", "a", ... to the minibuffer while waiting for a short amount of time after each letter, until (in total) "M-x emacs-uptime" appears in the minibuffer. The goal is that we can simulate the effects of typing while minimizing manual effort. This all already works as expected in Emacs versions before 28.2, and it works to a large extent also in later versions. The only remaining problem I have with Emacs 28.2 and later versions is that in situations like the one I posted, the minibuffer is no longer adequately grown to fully display the text it contains (because the program wrote it there). With your snippet, I can work around a very specific case of this, where a single string is shown in the minibuffer. For my use case though, this is not yet enough, because my program simulates manual edits by changing text in the minibuffer, such as adding or removing individual letters. I am therefore interested in ways to grow the minibuffer so that it is large enough, while allowing very flexible editing operations to be simulated in it that go beyond showing a single string. Thank you and all the best, Markus
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Full text available.Received: (at 67715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2023 20:21:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 09 15:21:23 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rC3pD-0005Tu-L0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 15:21:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rC3pA-0005TS-AG for 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 15:21:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rC3om-0003X9-Og; Sat, 09 Dec 2023 15:21:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=+S+1rf5RIRB/9AX03s2tQnR+oXHQL2HoIwbM2D7Odgo=; b=MeLhjikSHLrK /XhgzNZkpqb948G2u1biX1l3oExj1Nq0X+OKi60H5zEPZrA5NXMb31SRimLce/jTJ5oRscQUhfOTp lKjBiTd6CKhaxCV9FHn+1eqEPLRelVBCNlsryC12XwqYX8U+eFwOiri8HcQnksZgnijjiXum3la06 gp34gq0k5NAISxbWCPOdbkQGqAavqhgfXlmXJSK79Q+MMXG/QcO8L18iPeTJuZyXqjqu/A4LXKHdS h+qNjY07faSjIbtd0GnQSAnTLcxy99+pEf6zg7i7Iz2qyhCCQWmN4TidYcls2CH8atxIXmFpA7PGC seqHyDIWlldf+ksUZzPFag==; Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 22:20:03 +0200 Message-Id: <83msujw2ks.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87r0jvf88j.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Markus Triska on Sat, 09 Dec 2023 21:09:48 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#67715: 28.2; Minibuffer content is sometimes unexpectedly partially hidden References: <87plzg5xff.fsf@HIDDEN> <838r64zb3r.fsf@HIDDEN> <874jgrvotz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wmtnyffx.fsf@HIDDEN> <878r63vjal.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sf4bwbpy.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r0jvf88j.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67715 Cc: 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> > Cc: 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 21:09:48 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > This seems to work:... > > Thank you a lot for looking into this! As mentioned, I am using Emacs to > simulate interactions that would take place if the user pressed certain > keys, and so I would also like to show the effects of continuous typing > in the buffer, i.e., incrementally adding or even removing text, like a > normal interaction that would take place in the minibuffer. > > A condensed example of this is given in #34957, where "hello" is > followed by " there!". In my actual application, these texts are not > added in blocked chunks, but continuously letter by letter, and I can > easily do this also with a larger font by remapping the default face, in > Emacs versions before 28.2, by simply inserting the intended letters in > the minibuffer. Is there a way to implement this also in later versions > so that the program remains simple and the minibuffer is fully visible? I'm not sure I understood, but if you put a face on some text, and then type at the end of that text, the additional text you type is supposed to "inherit" that face, no?
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> From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 10:04:18 +0100
>
> (let ((f (selected-frame)))
> (with-selected-frame (make-frame)
> (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
> (select-frame-set-input-focus f)
> (let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
> (when win
> (with-selected-window win
> (recenter 0)))
> (let ((w (selected-window)))
> (unwind-protect
> (progn
> (select-window (minibuffer-window))
> (setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0)))
> (fit-window-to-buffer)
> (insert "hello")
> (read-key))
> (erase-buffer))
> (select-window w))))
This seems to work:
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
(with-selected-frame (make-frame)
(switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
(when win
(with-selected-window win
(recenter 0)))
(let ((w (selected-window)))
(unwind-protect
(progn
(select-window (minibuffer-window))
(fit-window-to-buffer)
(read-key (propertize "hello" 'face '(:height 2.0))))
(erase-buffer))
(select-window w))))
As well as this (which is a minor variant of your original recipe);
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
(with-selected-frame (make-frame)
(switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
(when win
(with-selected-window win
(recenter 0)))
(with-selected-window (minibuffer-window)
(unwind-protect
(read-key (propertize "hello" 'face '(:height 2.0)))
(erase-buffer)))))
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> I don't know. You haven't actually explained what you are trying to
> accomplish and why you use this strange way of accomplishing it. Why
> not, for example, use the minibuffer-prompt face instead to show the
> prompt in a different typeface?
In order to automatically explain certain Emacs features, I am using
Emacs to simulate interactions that would take place if the user pressed
certain keys. For this reason, I have a program that inserts text in the
minibuffer, as if the user had typed the text. In the Emacs versions I
mentioned, this works as expected: The minibuffer resizes as if the user
had typed the text. I noticed that in Emacs versions starting from 28.2,
this no longer works. For my use case, this is a regression which I
filed as an issue. I filed the issue by following the instructions:
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug,
and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe
starting from 'emacs -Q':
I kept the issue to a smallest fragment that exhibits the regression,
and it comes as a surprise to me that you now say "You haven't actually
explained what you are trying to accomplish and why you use this strange
way of accomplishing it", because such an explanation was never asked
for and also the instructions for filing an issue do not mention it.
Still, I have now provided the explanation and I hope it suffices to
explain the concrete use case I have for this feature. If you need to
know anything else to improve this case, please ask me. Thank you a lot!
> mini-window. When redisplay is inhibited, the code which resizes the
> mini-window returns without doing anything. So one way of fixing this
> would be to try to avoid with-selected-window, and instead use some
> other way of achieving what you want to do.
I have now tried various ways to resize the minibuffer in the situation
I posted, and so far found no way to do it. I am including a snippet
that uses fit-window-to-buffer, and does not use with-selected-window,
and still the text in the minibuffer is not fully visible. I have also
changed attributes of minibuffer-prompt, and they seem to have no effect
on the case I posted: In my use case, I deliberately use a larger face
so that the simulated minibuffer interaction is more easily readable.
If there is any other way I should try, or any way to get the minibuffer
to show the entire buffer content in the situation I mentioned, please
let me know any time, I would greatly appreciate your help with this.
Thank you a lot,
Markus
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
(with-selected-frame (make-frame)
(switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
(when win
(with-selected-window win
(recenter 0)))
(let ((w (selected-window)))
(unwind-protect
(progn
(select-window (minibuffer-window))
(setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0)))
(fit-window-to-buffer)
(insert "hello")
(read-key))
(erase-buffer))
(select-window w))))
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> Why did you expect the mini-window to resize in this case?
The Emacs Lisp documentation states in section 21.1:
The minibuffer=E2=80=99s window is normally a single line; it grows
automatically if the contents require more space.
I therefore expected it to grow automatically in the case I posted,
especially also because this is done in many Emacs versions before 28.2,
such as 26.1, 26.2, 26.3, 27.1, 27.2 and 28.1.
> find another way of ensuring the enlarged text is visible, in your
>
I added (fit-window-to-buffer) after inserting the text, and still the
text is not fully visible. fit-window-to-buffer is documented as:
Adjust size of WINDOW to display its buffer=E2=80=99s contents exactly.
I would greatly prefer if Emacs works as documented. Should I file a
separate issue for this, or is this also a case of wontfix? Is there any
way to solve the issue?
Thank you a lot!
Markus
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Full text available.Received: (at 67715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2023 20:35:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 08 15:35:56 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46285 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rBhZk-0008Sl-DW for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 15:35:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rBhZi-0008SK-8U; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 15:35:55 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rBhZP-0002PY-1f; Fri, 08 Dec 2023 15:35:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=WmIkrL3JP/JUJF9rPyoHUm8vDODtpy2wKT1WdvBbiOg=; b=ip88V6slgXAa OFTV7XnroF9c9a4h3Yaj5bsBCSUyUINZFoilGudgvloxiGPqxYn92hbyy/DbXp7HomT4oWYKHISnc B6ZWJyupeIzVFSTDhCWoKUZIIsbPm4R38E40wM3yPTt+oX53u4uJes09txIjIOqCvE8paJ5N94xxV atL94RmXombFv64fi9qOeaduHGlc6MnO5rCDtyCevC9axiDi9qIHOTcAaeVf6S6uJcP921E1PVG1L z685zM94bKKpVtK3p4dxrko3tt3k7MW19tS34jZO6ttm9h+TNBcavX47XODpq08aV/OmX0JI2yIzg CggbQD2v8+JFZah3AyUgiA==; Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 22:35:20 +0200 Message-Id: <838r64zb3r.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87plzg5xff.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Markus Triska on Fri, 08 Dec 2023 20:03:32 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#67715: 28.2; Minibuffer content is sometimes unexpectedly partially hidden References: <87plzg5xff.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67715 Cc: 67715 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 67715 wontfix thanks > From: Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 20:03:32 +0100 > > To reproduce the issue, please start Emacs with: > > $ emacs -Q > > Then put the following form in the *scratch* buffer and evaluate it with > C-x e: > > (let ((f (selected-frame))) > (with-selected-frame (make-frame) > (switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other"))) > (select-frame-set-input-focus f) > (let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t))) > (when win > (with-selected-window win > (recenter 0))) > (with-selected-window (minibuffer-window) > (unwind-protect > (progn > (setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0))) > (insert "hello") > (read-key)) > (erase-buffer))))) > > "hello" is shown in the minibuffer, but it is partially hidden. > > For comparison, in Emacs 28.1, "hello" is fully visible. > > Can you reproduce this issue, and if possible, could you please restore > the behaviour of Emacs 28.1 and earlier versions for this example? The change which caused this cannot be reverted, since it will reintroduce a worse bug (bug#24285). Why did you expect the mini-window to resize in this case? Emacs doesn't resize a window just because you enlarge a font shown in that window, which makes some of the text invisible because it not longer fits into the window's dimensions. The automatic resizing of the mini-window is reserved for its uses to prompt the user and to show echo-area messages, whereas your snippet just uses it as a normal window showing some buffer. So I don't think we will change this behavior, and you will need to find another way of ensuring the enlarged text is visible, in your real-life use case. Sorry.
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Subject: 28.2; Minibuffer content is sometimes unexpectedly partially hidden
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To reproduce the issue, please start Emacs with:
$ emacs -Q
Then put the following form in the *scratch* buffer and evaluate it with
C-x e:
(let ((f (selected-frame)))
(with-selected-frame (make-frame)
(switch-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "other")))
(select-frame-set-input-focus f)
(let ((win (get-buffer-window "other" t)))
(when win
(with-selected-window win
(recenter 0)))
(with-selected-window (minibuffer-window)
(unwind-protect
(progn
(setq-local face-remapping-alist `((default :height 2.0)))
(insert "hello")
(read-key))
(erase-buffer)))))
"hello" is shown in the minibuffer, but it is partially hidden.
For comparison, in Emacs 28.1, "hello" is fully visible.
Can you reproduce this issue, and if possible, could you please restore
the behaviour of Emacs 28.1 and earlier versions for this example?
Thank you and all the best,
Markus
In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars)
of 2023-12-08 built on mt-book
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12201003
System Description: Ubuntu 23.10
Configured using:
'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-gif=no --with-tiff=no
--with-gnutls=no'
Configured features:
FREETYPE GMP JPEG LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP
SOUND THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XFT XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB
Important settings:
value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Markus Triska <triska@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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