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[66.158.157.186]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dt8-20020a05620a478800b007749dc7881dsm3844649qkb.48.2023.12.12.08.59.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 12 Dec 2023 08:59:11 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <c922a420-03ef-7781-5016-5174930ce81f@HIDDEN> (Ekaitz Zarraga's message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2023 16:00:46 +0100") References: <c922a420-03ef-7781-5016-5174930ce81f@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:59:10 -0500 Message-ID: <87edfrbbmp.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi, > > We have automake packaged, but it's not compatible with older autoconf > versions so autoconf is not very usable at this point. > > ``` > Ekaitz@tuxedo ~/projects/nlnet/gcc/libstdc++-v3 (riscv)$ guix shell > automake autoconf@HIDDEN > Ekaitz@tuxedo ~/projects/nlnet/gcc/libstdc++-v3 (riscv) [env]$ > autoreconf -vif > autoreconf: Entering directory `.' > autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext > autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I . -I .. -I ../config > configure.ac:74: error: Autoconf version 2.65 or higher is required > /gnu/store/p0c4zj5na8w9hpsp5v5h637wnybx0hb6-automake-1.16.5/share/aclocal-1.16/init.m4:29: > AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE is expanded from... > configure.ac:74: the top level > autom4te: /gnu/store/n3kxhwi5qdil1vlaq5b6zwyiv7wkrw76-m4-1.4.19/bin/m4 > failed with exit status: 63 > aclocal: error: autom4te failed with exit status: 63 > autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 63 > ``` > > Is this only my thing? 'guix show automake' shows we also have automake 1.9.6 available. I suppose this still works with the older autoconf? -- Thanks, Maxim
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#67796: Automake is not compatible with older Autoconfs we provide Resent-From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.67796.B67796.17049661453036 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67796 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@HIDDEN>, 67796 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67796-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B67796.17049661453036 (code B ref 67796); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 67796) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2024 09:42:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58753 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rNrZw-0000mu-Qr for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 04:42:25 -0500 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:39036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <g@HIDDEN>) id 1rNrZr-0000mc-LR for 67796 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 04:42:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B9430022F; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:42:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ns13.heimat.it Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns13.heimat.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UvFCa647eWgL; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bourrache.mug.xelera.it (unknown [93.56.171.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0996E30022E; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roquette.mug.biscuolo.net (roquette [10.38.2.14]) by bourrache.mug.xelera.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 82FB82D64E2B; Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:42:13 +0100 (CET) Received: (nullmailer pid 28588 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 11 Jan 2024 09:42:13 -0000 From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <c922a420-03ef-7781-5016-5174930ce81f@HIDDEN> Organization: Xelera.eu References: <c922a420-03ef-7781-5016-5174930ce81f@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:42:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87mstcb40b.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ekaitz Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi, > > We have automake packaged, but it's not compatible with older autoconf=20 > versions so autoconf is not very usable at this point. > > ``` > Ekaitz@tuxedo ~/projects/nlnet/gcc/libstdc++-v3 (riscv)$ guix shell=20 > automake autoconf@HIDDEN is there a reason you need to "pin" to the 2.64 version? [...] > configure.ac:74: error: Autoconf version 2.65 or higher is required we now have autoconf-2.68 and -2.69 and autoconf is autoconf-2.69 does this solve the issue you reported? Happy hacking, Gio' =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJABAEBCgAqFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAmWft/QMHGdAeGVsZXJh LmV1AAoJENN9DqfOzDkSPVkP/jEeNxSvjWI8eqX3lLYRE82Sdr5+R5VZzAH2FQLC byWEGIgCqqYAwhVQJP0SELo7JSQlJZrLjycpduI8x+3+GFtYAEg/cfqzNT8pCTnk PcJzyAIYeq5Qa1/CED2rdQJVq9M1QQB9nBkfyYXC3+uQtZThNgDhP+haGQRmLVSO HgNa6BE4DJfJBi3eb/TBMJHe55oLIkP2SY2c3m92ItiekY/ODD4Wd3ub/zhHCH6V bL4VE+A8VSn8tt8VrB+FJUctUzCTd/Jf7BcVSNdW8UZYloG3GjS3s8JydDYV9VaR GphkLCqQfSVhuxEb2n9eGd8DDUCYzm7qHy82T1EoNe7oBAf97C0e+pWle7JTqZ4Z 2djG2E9kj9Lhfj6Ap6SFl+6htuLo6L4OsIxeQdUa8vB+mLj3V2wg2DIoCy+z8qbD 9J8qxs1p0EedJDal73OUvzTFDzvFnhzueEf5+QLLscXL9pm+dn3SnhzaMsm8Kd+U ydvgEpGY6bj21wupj4gitw6s+RuxQklYyeiTBEBa5hlXtfsYFAphKdQ2kGc3nFwv 7bZAwFDTtiruMJtBBnFUYBKxzKIkrjQr8gUMB3OT36b+t7sPAowFgjvcOsYk95+i axCEgZY44Ndd4WA7+fuxz+4s6Cg4d3Yh53c6w9zNOA/3SUEosLV3FsKN1fltDtNb I/Lh =ETOY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#67796: Automake is not compatible with older Autoconfs we provide Resent-From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.67796.B67796.17050847172412 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67796 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@HIDDEN>, 67796 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67796-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B67796.17050847172412 (code B ref 67796); Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 67796) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2024 18:38:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rOMQP-0000cq-Br for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 13:38:37 -0500 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:54154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <g@HIDDEN>) id 1rOMQK-0000cV-ED for 67796 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 13:38:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9230022F; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:38:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ns13.heimat.it Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns13.heimat.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aAaAowwn3-8a; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bourrache.mug.xelera.it (unknown [93.56.171.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7576730022E; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roquette.mug.biscuolo.net (roquette [10.38.2.14]) by bourrache.mug.xelera.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 11CDB2D70819; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:38:25 +0100 (CET) Received: (nullmailer pid 10320 invoked by uid 1000); Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:38:24 -0000 From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86a3869a-0968-3c30-45e7-1f493dcbb63c@HIDDEN> Organization: Xelera.eu References: <c922a420-03ef-7781-5016-5174930ce81f@HIDDEN> <87mstcb40b.fsf@HIDDEN> <86a3869a-0968-3c30-45e7-1f493dcbb63c@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 19:38:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87h6jibdnk.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@HIDDEN> writes: [...] >>> We have automake packaged, but it's not compatible with older autoconf >>> versions so autoconf is not very usable at this point. >>> >>> ``` >>> Ekaitz@tuxedo ~/projects/nlnet/gcc/libstdc++-v3 (riscv)$ guix shell >>> automake autoconf@HIDDEN >>=20 >> is there a reason you need to "pin" to the 2.64 version? > > I had one, I was working on GCC bootstrapping... oh OK :-) > It's not a big deal if we just remove the older versions. but if they are needed for bootstrapping they should be kept around, no? > The problem I wanted to make us notice is we were keeping the 2.64=20 > version and we didn't really provide any compatible automake, so the=20 > autoconf@HIDDEN was almost useless. I'm not very familiar with Autoconf and Automake (nor with bootstrapping): is there a "compatibility table" around? I quickly had a look to the respective manuals but I was not able to find one. > If no package uses those, it's ok to remove. I can always time-machine=20 > around the problem. OK old packages can always (almost) be time-machined back but if they are needed for bootstrapping (for sexample if your work on GCC bootstrapping is succesful) they should be in Guix proper, no? is this a bug? :-) Thanks for your work! 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi, On 2024-01-12 19:38, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: >> It's not a big deal if we just remove the older versions. > > but if they are needed for bootstrapping they should be kept around, no? No, because they are not needed for the bootstrapping itself. We build stuff from scratch for it, I needed them to rebuild the configure scripts on GCC, which I don't need to rebuild anymore (GCC's codebase includes the configure scripts prebuilt). That's where I realized. >> The problem I wanted to make us notice is we were keeping the 2.64 >> version and we didn't really provide any compatible automake, so the >> autoconf@HIDDEN was almost useless. > > I'm not very familiar with Autoconf and Automake (nor with > bootstrapping): is there a "compatibility table" around? I quickly had > a look to the respective manuals but I was not able to find one. I don't know either. I tried to use the 2.64 one and that told me the Automake wasn't compatible. >> If no package uses those, it's ok to remove. I can always time-machine >> around the problem. > > OK old packages can always (almost) be time-machined back but if they > are needed for bootstrapping (for sexample if your work on GCC > bootstrapping is succesful) they should be in Guix proper, no? > > is this a bug? :-) The problem in my opinion is including a 2.64 autoconf that we can't run actually use for the lack of a compatible automake. Not providing it is a better option. I don't need it for bootstrapping recipes, and if I need it in the future I'll remake the package. If Autoconf 2.64 is not needed by any package my proposal is to remove it from Guix and let the people interested on it to `time-machine`, as that's going to probably have the correct automake with it. > Thanks for your work! Gio' Thank you!
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