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lgcoelho@HIDDEN writes:
> This service enables a declarative configuration of zathura, the
> customizable document viewer.
I have mixed feelings about pulling 3rd-party software
configurations in guix:
- adding it to guix increases maintenance burden: new versions
could add or remove config options
- it bloats guix: imagine if we add configs for every
user-configurable app
- such configs are not easily transferrable: if I were to use the
same app in non-guix env, I'd have to maintain 2 configs
Another recent example is `oci-container-configuration` which
defines a subset of docker-cli startup arguments. The problem is
that `docker run` command has 96 options and the configuration
only uses a handful, lacking a way to provide the remaining ones.
I think guix should not embed config generators for user software.
The only need I see for such generators is when there are options
which should be the same among multiple applications (e.g. color
schemes or shared directories). For such usecase guix should
provide better text manipulation tools which home owners could use
to parameterise configs.
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Hi Sergey,
Sergey Trofimov <sarg@HIDDEN> writes:
> I have mixed feelings about pulling 3rd-party software configurations in =
guix:
> - adding it to guix increases maintenance burden: new versions could ad=
d or
> remove config options
> - it bloats guix: imagine if we add configs for every user-configurable=
app
> - such configs are not easily transferrable: if I were to use the same =
app
> in non-guix env, I'd have to maintain 2 configs
>
> Another recent example is `oci-container-configuration` which defines a s=
ubset
> of docker-cli startup arguments. The problem is that `docker run` command=
has
> 96 options and the configuration only uses a handful, lacking a way to pr=
ovide
> the remaining ones.
>
> I think guix should not embed config generators for user software. The on=
ly
> need I see for such generators is when there are options which should be =
the
> same among multiple applications (e.g. color schemes or shared
> directories). For such usecase guix should provide better text manipulati=
on
> tools which home owners could use to parameterise configs.
It's a bit too off-topic to dive into general configurations in Guix
within the context of the current patch series and should probably be
discussed in a =E2=80=98guix-devel=E2=80=99 mailing list or =E2=80=98#guix=
=E2=80=99 IRC channel.
Regards,
Oleg.
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Hello,
Sergey Trofimov <sarg@HIDDEN> skribis:
> lgcoelho@HIDDEN writes:
>
>> This service enables a declarative configuration of zathura, the
>> customizable document viewer.
>
> I have mixed feelings about pulling 3rd-party software configurations
> in guix:
> - adding it to guix increases maintenance burden: new versions could
> add or remove config options
> - it bloats guix: imagine if we add configs for every
> user-configurable app
> - such configs are not easily transferrable: if I were to use the
> same app in non-guix env, I'd have to maintain 2 configs
>
> Another recent example is `oci-container-configuration` which defines
> a subset of docker-cli startup arguments. The problem is that `docker
> run` command has 96 options and the configuration only uses a handful,
> lacking a way to provide the remaining ones.
>
> I think guix should not embed config generators for user software. The
> only need I see for such generators is when there are options which
> should be the same among multiple applications (e.g. color schemes or
> shared directories). For such usecase guix should provide better text
> manipulation tools which home owners could use to parameterise
> configs.
I guess it=E2=80=99s a tradeoff. The usual approach for System/Home servic=
es
has been to provide =E2=80=9Cbindings=E2=80=9D (a record type) for the conf=
ig, *plus* an
=E2=80=9Cescape hatch=E2=80=9D (letting users pass raw config as a string).
But you=E2=80=99re right, the expected maintenance burden should be taken i=
nto
account. For well-established software and config formats such as Git,
it=E2=80=99s probably okay to have bindings; for things that are more
recent/changing, it=E2=80=99s less obvious. Also, we currently don=E2=80=
=99t have tests
for Home services, except for those mapped from System services, which
means breakage isn=E2=80=99t automatically detected.
I don=E2=80=99t know whether Zathura falls in the =E2=80=9Cokay=E2=80=9D ca=
tegory or rather in
the =E2=80=9Clet=E2=80=99s do write bindings=E2=80=9D one.
Ludo=E2=80=99.
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