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23.2; no key binding in *vc-dir* for stash commands

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Tom Tromey <tromey@HIDDEN>; dated Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:03:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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>>> These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
>>> showed up in `C-h m' at least.
Dan> I am not aware of an easy way to do that.  Creating a vc-git-dir-mode
Dan> derived from vc-dir-mode would help...
> How about just putting the bindings in the mode's map, and having the
> commands error when outside the stash area?

And/or move stash/shelve to the generic code, of course.


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>> These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
>> showed up in `C-h m' at least.

Dan> I am not aware of an easy way to do that.  Creating a vc-git-dir-mode
Dan> derived from vc-dir-mode would help...

How about just putting the bindings in the mode's map, and having the
commands error when outside the stash area?

Tom




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>>> Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT
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>> I don't see any need for such buttons, but a menu entry to create
>> a stash sounds about right.

> There's already a menu entry about that,

Duh!  Sorry.

> and Tom's original complaint was that it's hard to discover...

We could provide a tool-bar, and in that tool-bar, maybe shelve/stash
would get a spot (not sure, but possible).  But text buttons don't
seem justified.
Tom's problem is that he's not used to using the menu-bar to
find features.


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> I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

You don't need to enable the menu-bar for that.
C-down-mouse-3 will show you the menu-bar even if it's disabled.


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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

>> How about adding buttons on the Stash line:
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>> Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT
>
> I don't see any need for such buttons, but a menu entry to create
> a stash sounds about right.

There's already a menu entry about that, and Tom's original complaint
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> How about adding buttons on the Stash line:

> Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT

I don't see any need for such buttons, but a menu entry to create
a stash sounds about right.

Of course, I think it's more important to first move the support for
stash/shelve from backends to the generic vc.el.


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Tom Tromey <tromey@HIDDEN> writes:

>>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> Dan> Tom Tromey <tromey@HIDDEN> writes:
>>> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
>>> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.
>
> Dan> There are some key bindings, but they are only active when the
> Dan> point is over a stash.  (tooltips over the stash show what's
> Dan> available).
>
> Thanks.
>
> The problem with tooltips is they only show up if I happen to hover
> there with the mouse.

Sure, tooltips are just one thing that can make things easier to use...


> Dan> Should vc-git-stash and vc-git-stash-snapshot have key bindings in
> Dan> *vc-dir*?
>
> These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
> showed up in `C-h m' at least.

I am not aware of an easy way to do that.  Creating a vc-git-dir-mode
derived from vc-dir-mode would help...

How about adding buttons on the Stash line:

Stash   : Nothing sashed     CREATE STASH     STASH SNAPSHOT

That would make it more obvious how to create a stash.
These are not very frequent actions, so it would help not having to
remember a key binding.

There's some difficulty with the buttons: the "Stash:" is inserted as
a string in the EWOC, and the widget.el buttons want to be inserted
using widget-create (or somesuch), so the buttons might need to be
created from scratch...




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>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN> writes:

Dan> Tom Tromey <tromey@HIDDEN> writes:
>> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
>> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

Dan> There are some key bindings, but they are only active when the
Dan> point is over a stash.  (tooltips over the stash show what's
Dan> available).

Thanks.

The problem with tooltips is they only show up if I happen to hover
there with the mouse.

Dan> Should vc-git-stash and vc-git-stash-snapshot have key bindings in
Dan> *vc-dir*?

These key bindings are not very discoverable.  It would be nice if they
showed up in `C-h m' at least.

Tom




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> *vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
> it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.

There are some key bindings, but they are only active when the point is over a stash.
(tooltips over the stash show what's available).

Should vc-git-stash  and vc-git-stash-snapshot have key bindings in *vc-dir*?

Ideas (and patches) on how to improve the UI are more than welcome!




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*vc-dir* shows the git stash but offers no key bindings for manipulating
it.  I had to enable the menu bar to find out what was available.



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<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<help-echo> <menu-bar> <vc-dir-mode> <git-st> C-x 1 
C-h n M-< C-s s t a s h C-a C-z o M-x r e p o r t - 
e m <tab> b <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Quit
Mark set
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window, C-M-v to scroll help.
Mark saved where search started [2 times]
Mark set
Menu-Bar mode enabled
Quit
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.
Mark set
Mark saved where search started

Load-path shadows:
/home/tromey/lib/lisp/rpm-spec-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/rpm-spec-mode
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/sha1 hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/sha1
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/md4 hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/md4
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/hex-util hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/hex-util
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/css-mode-1.0/css-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/textmodes/css-mode
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/ruby-mode-1.0/ruby-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-glyph hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-glyph
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-valid hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-valid
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-maint hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-maint
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-cmpct hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-cmpct
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-loc hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-loc
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-dt hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-dt
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-parse hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-parse
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-uri hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-uri
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-util hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-util
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-uchnm hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-uchnm
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-ns hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-ns
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-rap hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-rap
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/xsd-regexp hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/xsd-regexp
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-mode
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-enc hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-enc
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-outln hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-outln
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-xsd hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-xsd
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-nxml hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-nxml
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-maint hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-maint
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/xmltok hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/xmltok
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-util hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-util
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/nxml-parse hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/nxml-parse
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-pttrn hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-pttrn
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/nxml-mode-20041004/rng-match hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/nxml/rng-match
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/sasl-cram hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/sasl-cram
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/hmac-def hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/hmac-def
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/hmac-md5 hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/hmac-md5
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/sasl hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/sasl
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/sasl-digest hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/sasl-digest
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/sasl-ntlm hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/sasl-ntlm
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/flim/ntlm hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/net/ntlm
/home/tromey/.emacs.d/elpa/emms-3.0/tq hides /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/emacs-lisp/tq

Features:
(shadow emacsbug cus-start cus-load python-21 python vc-annotate
cal-move warnings rfc2368 tcl find-file gdb-shell shell skeleton
noutline outline mule-util smerge-mode vc-sccs vc-dir ewoc ffap
make-mode edmacro kmacro etags idutils gnus-fun w3m-form w3m doc-view
image-mode w3m-hist w3m-fb w3m-ems w3m-ccl ccl w3m-favicon w3m-image
w3m-proc w3m-util grep compile vc-svn vc-git browse-url bbdb-hooks
jka-compr cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine
cc-vars cc-defs apropos mule-diag newcomment dabbrev jimb-patch bbdb-sc
supercite regi mail-hist goto-addr sh-script executable flow-fill
diff-mode parse-time vc-cvs autoconf autoconf-mode bbdb-gui gnus-cite
smiley ansi-color gnus-async gnus-bcklg gnus-ml disp-table auth-source
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mail-extr bbdb-com gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual
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gnus-cache gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source
gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message idna sendmail ecomplete
rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode
mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils
mailheader canlock hashcash gnus-win gnus gnus-ems nnheader gnus-util
netrc mail-utils log-edit pcvs-util add-log copyright vc vc-dispatcher
multi-isearch vc-rcs erc-menu erc-join erc-ring erc-pcomplete pcomplete
erc-track erc-match erc-button wid-edit erc-fill erc-stamp erc-netsplit
erc-spelling erc-truncate vc-bzr sha1 sha1-el hex-util texinfo help-mode
view flyspell ispell eldoc emms-status emms-lastfm emms-url url
url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie
url-util url-parse url-vars mm-util mail-prsvr mailcap emms-browser sort
emms-playlist-sort emms-score emms-player-xine emms-player-mpd tq
emms-playing-time emms-lyrics time-date emms-streams emms-mode-line
emms-cache emms-info-ogginfo emms-info-mp3info emms-info later-do
emms-playlist-mode emms-player-mplayer emms-player-simple
emms-source-playlist emms-source-file dired emms-setup emms emms-compat
gdb-shell-autoloads nxml-enc info weblogger-autoloads xml-rpc-autoloads
package reporter cal-china lunar solar cal-dst cal-bahai cal-islam
cal-hebrew holidays hol-loaddefs appt diary-lib diary-loaddefs cal-menu
easymenu calendar cal-loaddefs uniquify mouse-sel easy-mmode status cl
cl-19 erc-services erc-networks erc-goodies erc erc-backend erc-compat
format-spec thingatpt pp bbdb timezone ange-ftp regexp-opt comint ring
server advice help-fns advice-preload u-vm-color vm-autoloads vm-vars
vm-version bbdb-autoloads tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type
mwheel x-win x-dnd font-setting tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe
lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar
mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham
georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic
indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple
abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties
overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind
system-font-setting font-render-setting gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)

Tom




Acknowledgement sent to Tom Tromey <tromey@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to owner <at> debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#6815; Package emacs. Full text available.
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