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My primary use on Emacs is with note taking in Org > mode, launch time for with highly modded Emacs is some 25 seconds, more or > less same time even in terminal 'emacs -nw' command, I don't want to use > the daemon thingy and for neovim with neorg it's just 1.5 seconds am on > some legacy 2002 old hardware. So sadly I am taking use of neovim with > neorg. As trend and acceptability of rust increasing we will see more > feature rich and quicker note taking apps performance. > I understand Emacs is itself is an standalone operating system but not so > privileged people also use this platform and to abandon so many is cutting > own following, one trend which am seeing is on neovim they are wanna be > Emacs, almost every 3rd plugin is being copied somewhere even the Emacsconf > is replicated some way. Thanks for the bug report. My recommendation is searching online for how to make Emacs start faster. This typically involves using autoloads, to make packages load only when they are actually needed. We encourage package authors to prefer using that in their installation instructions, but it is not always the case. But I don't think this is strictly a bug in Emacs, as I don't see anything here that is actionable. For further assistance, instead of using our bug tracker, you will have better luck using support forums instead, like the help-gnu-emacs mailing list, Reddit, IRC, EmacsWiki, and so on. PS. For what it's worth, my Emacs loads hundreds of packages and starts in 1.5 seconds.
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Then maintaining it. Plz consider speeding up the launch time of Emacs make it on par with Neovim atleast may with some cut down features or using a selective reduced modules in terminal. My primary use on Emacs is with note taking in Org mode, launch time for with highly modded Emacs is some 25 seconds, more or less same time even in terminal 'emacs -nw' command, I don't want to use the daemon thingy and for neovim with neorg it's just 1.5 seconds am on some legacy 2002 old hardware. So sadly I am taking use of neovim with neorg. As trend and acceptability of rust increasing we will see more feature rich and quicker note taking apps performance. I understand Emacs is itself is an standalone operating system but not so privileged people also use this platform and to abandon so many is cutting own following, one trend which am seeing is on neovim they are wanna be Emacs, almost every 3rd plugin is being copied somewhere even the Emacsconf is replicated some way. I wish to see emacs competitive and more adaptive it has all the capabilities to lead the charts just some push is good direction is needed work with startup time is one of them. Obliged And concerned Emacs user Warm Regards --0000000000005db173060ed7504c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">Greetings dear Gnu Emacs team,<div dir=3D"auto">First I w= ould like to thank you Emacs team for creating such a wonderful application= Emacs. Then maintaining it.<br><div dir=3D"auto">Plz consider speeding up = the launch time of Emacs make it on par with Neovim atleast may with some c= ut down features or using a selective reduced modules in terminal. My prima= ry use on Emacs is with note taking in Org mode, launch time for with highl= y modded Emacs is some 25 seconds, more or less same time even in terminal = 'emacs -nw' command, I don't want to use the daemon thingy and = for neovim with neorg it's just 1.5 seconds am on some legacy 2002 old = hardware. So sadly I am taking use of neovim with neorg. As trend and accep= tability of rust increasing we will see more feature rich and quicker note = taking apps performance.</div><div dir=3D"auto">I understand Emacs is itsel= f is an standalone operating system but not so privileged people also use t= his platform and to abandon so many is cutting own following, one trend whi= ch am seeing is on neovim they are wanna be Emacs, almost every 3rd plugin = is being copied somewhere even the Emacsconf is replicated some way.</div><= div dir=3D"auto">I wish to see emacs competitive and more adaptive it has a= ll the capabilities to lead the charts just some push is good direction is = needed work with startup time is one of them.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">= <br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Obliged And concern= ed Emacs user</div><div dir=3D"auto">Warm Regards</div></div></div> --0000000000005db173060ed7504c--
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