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Disclaimer: I use Rmail on Emacs, and Message-Mode.

Bug Part 1:

The From: header is ignored (from the message as saved in 'queued email 
folder') when sending with smtpmail-send-queued-mail, and takes the 
value of user-mail-address when this wasn't previously customized by the 
user. This is really worrisome! What else is ignored and rewritten 
without warning when invoking smtpmail-send-queued-mail?

Followup to Bug Part 1:

It would be interesting to figure out whether this happens also when 
user-mail-address had been previously customized by the user.

Bug Part 2:

This discrepancy between the behaviour of queued-sending and immediate 
sending (I use the default functions for the most current version of 
Emacs as of today) I consider to be a bug on itself. Because not doing 
things consistently confuses the user (even not doing the *wrong* thing 
consistently confuses the user. In this case the wrong thing is 
rewriting the From: header of every email).

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rameiko87@HIDDEN writes:

> Disclaimer: I use Rmail on Emacs, and Message-Mode.
>
> Bug Part 1:
>
> The From: header is ignored (from the message as saved in 'queued
> email folder') when sending with smtpmail-send-queued-mail, and takes
> the value of user-mail-address when this wasn't previously customized
> by the user. This is really worrisome! What else is ignored and
> rewritten without warning when invoking smtpmail-send-queued-mail?

This is not what I observe.  Like you, I have a one word (without dot)
hostname: "computer".  Then, I do:

   - emacs -Q
   - M-: (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
   - M-: (setq smtpmail-queue-mail t)
   - M-x message-mail
  [ here the "From:" is set to
    manuel@HIDDEN]
   - I fill "To:" and 'C-c C-c'
  [ now another mail=E2=80=A6 ]
   - M-x message-mail
  [ I fill "To:" and change the "From:" to manuel@elsewhere ]
   - 'C-c C-c'
  [ do send now=E2=80=A6 ]
   - M-x smtpmail-send-queued-mail

Both mails are sent and when I retrieve them both have the "From:"
exactly how it was: respectively
manuel@HIDDEN and manuel@elsewhere

> Followup to Bug Part 1:
>
> It would be interesting to figure out whether this happens also when
> user-mail-address had been previously customized by the user.
>
> Bug Part 2:
>
> This discrepancy between the behaviour of queued-sending and immediate
> sending (I use the default functions for the most current version of
> Emacs as of today) I consider to be a bug on itself. Because not doing
> things consistently confuses the user (even not doing the *wrong*
> thing consistently confuses the user. In this case the wrong thing is
> rewriting the From: header of every email).

I have tested the same recipe as above (without setting
smtpmail-queue-mail to t) and it works correctly for me and the "From:"
of the two retrieved mails are also the same.  Could you test this
recipe?
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Try the following to reproduce the core of the bug which I'm talking 
about on GNU Emacs 29.1:

Open emacs as follows:
emacs -Q

For each of the following lines, do M-: and then paste the line, press 
enter.

(setq message-mail-user-agent t)  BUT I THINK EVEN IF YOU SKIP THIS, THE 
SAME RESULT OCCURS

(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)

(setq smtpmail-queue-mail t)

(setq smtpmail-smtp-server "INSERT YOUR SMTP SERVER HERE")

(setq smtpmail-smtp-service 465)

(setq smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl)

Now generate a new message:
C-x m

Now fill in the headers To: to one of your addresses, From: to another 
of your addresses (mine have different domain, and the To: is the same 
domain as the smtp server), Subject: test, Body: test

C-c C-s

M-x smtpmail-send-queued-mail

Press enter, and I get the following message:

smtpmail-send-queued-mail: Sending failed: 504 5.5.2 <user@fedora>: 
Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address

>> Bug Part 1:
>> 
>> The From: header is ignored (from the message as saved in 'queued
>> email folder') when sending with smtpmail-send-queued-mail, and takes
>> the value of user-mail-address when this wasn't previously customized
>> by the user. This is really worrisome! What else is ignored and
>> rewritten without warning when invoking smtpmail-send-queued-mail?
>> 
>> Followup to Bug Part 1:
>> 
>> It would be interesting to figure out whether this happens also when
>> user-mail-address had been previously customized by the user.
>> 
>> Bug Part 2:
>> 
>> This discrepancy between the behaviour of queued-sending and immediate
>> sending (I use the default functions for the most current version of
>> Emacs as of today) I consider to be a bug on itself. Because not doing
>> things consistently confuses the user (even not doing the *wrong*
>> thing consistently confuses the user. In this case the wrong thing is
>> rewriting the From: header of every email).

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rameiko87@HIDDEN writes:

[...]

> smtpmail-send-queued-mail: Sending failed: 504 5.5.2 <user@fedora>:
> Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address

This is strange because I have followed your recipe (manually modifying
To: and From: to manuel@HIDDEN) and it works as expected: the
message is delivered and there is no trace of the local user/hostname in
it.
-- 
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We need to get to the bottom of this! If the steps are the same then you 
must be using a different version... Are you using Emacs 29.1?

On 25.01.2024 09:31, Manuel Giraud wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> smtpmail-send-queued-mail: Sending failed: 504 5.5.2 <user@fedora>:
>> Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address
> 
> This is strange because I have followed your recipe (manually modifying
> To: and From: to manuel@HIDDEN) and it works as expected: the
> message is delivered and there is no trace of the local user/hostname 
> in
> it.

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rameiko87@HIDDEN writes:

> We need to get to the bottom of this! If the steps are the same then
> you must be using a different version... Are you using Emacs 29.1?

Yes I'm on recent master.  I'll test on 29.1.
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Please do, because 29.2 is not packaged for guix, so I don't know how to 
install it. Otherwise I would test myself with 29.2...

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>> you must be using a different version... Are you using Emacs 29.1?
> 
> Yes I'm on recent master.  I'll test on 29.1.

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rameiko87@HIDDEN writes:

> Please do, because 29.2 is not packaged for guix, so I don't know how
> to install it. Otherwise I would test myself with 29.2...

Hi,

So I did the following test on 29.1 (built from source from the
emacs-29.1 branch):

      - emacs -Q
      - M-: (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
                  smtpmail-queue-mail t
                  smtpmail-smtp-server "ledu-giraud.fr")
      - M-: (compose-mail)
      [ manually change "To:" and "From:" to manuel@HIDDEN ]
      - C-c C-c
      - M-: (smtpmail-send-queued-mail)

And this mail is correctly delivered.  The only trace left of the local
hostname is in "Message-ID:" which was set to
<87dvxoapt1.fsf@HIDDEN>

So, I cannot see evidence of a bug in Emacs here.
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