GNU bug report logs - #69646
[PATCH] Have insert 'submit-emacs-patch' maintainers into X-Debbugs-Cc

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>; Keywords: patch; dated Fri, 8 Mar 2024 15:49:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. Full text available.

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Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi Michael,

Hi Felici=C3=A1n,

>> And I don't know how you want to maintain this file. It is intended for
>> all packages existing on debbugs.gnu.org, not only for Emacs.
>
> My idea was that the ELPA automation scripts could start an updated
> version of Philip's script to take care of maintaining this file.

It isn't foreseen that external scripts have write access to debbugs.gnu.or=
g.

> If I understand Philip correctly, then this approach has little gain
> over Philp's original idea.  And it is not clear for any of us whether
> this approach is feasible.

D'accord.

> Cheers,
> Felici=C3=A1n

Best regards, Michael.




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bug#69646; Package emacs. Full text available.

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Hi Michael,

Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Then if the file "/etc/debbugs/Maintainers" on fencepost has a line
>> "emacs-eglot    joaotavora@HIDDEN", debbugs will CC Jo=C3=A3o as well.
>
> This file is on debbugs.gnu.org, FTR.

Thanks.

> I don't know (and haven't tested) whether this cooperates well with the
> debbugs software. A package is usually defined as such on debbugs, don't
> know whether an entry as proposed by you confuses debbugs (hopefully,
> not).
>
> And I don't know how you want to maintain this file. It is intended for
> all packages existing on debbugs.gnu.org, not only for Emacs.

My idea was that the ELPA automation scripts could start an updated
version of Philip's script to take care of maintaining this file.

If I understand Philip correctly, then this approach has little gain
over Philp's original idea.  And it is not clear for any of us whether
this approach is feasible.

Cheers,
Felici=C3=A1n




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Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
>> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
>> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
>> information from the Maintainer: header.
>
> Do I understand correctly that the maintainer is detected by searching
> the local copy of Emacs, and not the always up-to-date remote version?

Yes, it uses a local checkout, but this should be fine considering that
if someone is writing a patch, they /should/ be using a relatively
up-to-date checkout to begin with.

> I'm not sure this makes a difference in practice, but a possible
> alternative approach is to define two packages in the bug report.  For
> example:
>
>    Package: emacs,emacs-eglot
>
> Then if the file "/etc/debbugs/Maintainers" on fencepost has a line
> "emacs-eglot    joaotavora@HIDDEN", debbugs will CC Jo=C3=A3o as well.
>
> This approach might be more complicated than yours, but would possibly
> work with outdated working copies as well.  Or might not work at all.
> I've come up with it based on the file emacs/admin/notes/bugtracker, and
> this: https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html

I don't know too much about Debbugs, to be fair.  But I assumed that one
cannot just arbitrarily declare packages, or am I mistaken?

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Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Felician,

>> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
>> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
>> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
>> information from the Maintainer: header.
>
> Do I understand correctly that the maintainer is detected by searching
> the local copy of Emacs, and not the always up-to-date remote version?
>
> I'm not sure this makes a difference in practice, but a possible
> alternative approach is to define two packages in the bug report.  For
> example:
>
>    Package: emacs,emacs-eglot
>
> Then if the file "/etc/debbugs/Maintainers" on fencepost has a line
> "emacs-eglot    joaotavora@HIDDEN", debbugs will CC Jo=C3=A3o as well.

This file is on debbugs.gnu.org, FTR.

I don't know (and haven't tested) whether this cooperates well with the
debbugs software. A package is usually defined as such on debbugs, don't
know whether an entry as proposed by you confuses debbugs (hopefully,
not).

And I don't know how you want to maintain this file. It is intended for
all packages existing on debbugs.gnu.org, not only for Emacs.

Practically, there is only one maintainer on debbugs.gnu.org ATM, that's
me. I won't commit to this additional burden.

> This approach might be more complicated than yours, but would possibly
> work with outdated working copies as well.  Or might not work at all.
> I've come up with it based on the file emacs/admin/notes/bugtracker, and
> this: https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html

Best regards, Michael.




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> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
> information from the Maintainer: header.

Do I understand correctly that the maintainer is detected by searching
the local copy of Emacs, and not the always up-to-date remote version?

I'm not sure this makes a difference in practice, but a possible
alternative approach is to define two packages in the bug report.  For
example:

   Package: emacs,emacs-eglot

Then if the file "/etc/debbugs/Maintainers" on fencepost has a line
"emacs-eglot    joaotavora@HIDDEN", debbugs will CC Jo=C3=A3o as well.

This approach might be more complicated than yours, but would possibly
work with outdated working copies as well.  Or might not work at all.
I've come up with it based on the file emacs/admin/notes/bugtracker, and
this: https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/debbugs-ug.html




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Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>>>
>>>> Tags: patch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
>>>> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
>>>> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
>>>> information from the Maintainer: header.
>>>>
>>>> One non-technical issue here is that the maintainer information might
>>>> not be up to date.  I've run a quick scan to see who is mentioned how
>>>> frequently.  It might be necessary to clean up this list or to check who
>>>> is still around:
>>>
>>> Hi Philip,
>>>
>>> IIUC with this patch I'd be in Cc of all bugs? If that's the case I'm
>>> not personally in favor of this, I score mails on bug-gnu-emacs also
>>> based on me being in Cc or not.
>>
>> Why should that be?  I have tested the new command out with bug#69647,
>> and you weren't added automatically.  In fact, a quick grep tells me you
>> aren't listed as the maintainer in any file, so you wouldn't be affected
>> by this.
>
> Maybe your patch should parse also admin/MAINTAINERS and collect names
> from there as well?

Imaginable, but that is much more difficult to parse.  If we want to do
this, when some more general function should be written to extract this
information.

>>> I think the bug is that maintainers should be subscribed to
>>> bug-gnu-emacs (otherwise I'm not sure how they can actually maintain).
>>
>> The issue is that for someone like me, who maintains a few little things
>> around Emacs, following all bugs and all discussions would be too much.
>>
>>> Isn't a long list of people in Cc technically just another mailing list?
>>
>> It shouldn't be a long list, just the people responsible for the
>> specific files being modified.  My idea is to have something comparable
>> to Linux's "get_maintainer.pl"[0], and a bit more streamlined (assuming
>> people even use M-x submit-emacs-patch).
>
> If we want to Cc maintainers who are impacted by a patch I'm in favor,
> if we want to Cc all maintainers then I'm not.  I haven't read your
> patch but from the initial description I thought was the first case,
> I've now the impression is the second.  Apologies if there was some
> miss-understanding on my side.

No, definitely the second case.  The data-flow is

 .patch file -> list of modified files -> list of maintainers of these files

and only those are added to X-Debbugs-CC.

> Thanks
>
>   Andrea

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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:

> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> Tags: patch
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
>>> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
>>> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
>>> information from the Maintainer: header.
>>>
>>> One non-technical issue here is that the maintainer information might
>>> not be up to date.  I've run a quick scan to see who is mentioned how
>>> frequently.  It might be necessary to clean up this list or to check who
>>> is still around:
>>
>> Hi Philip,
>>
>> IIUC with this patch I'd be in Cc of all bugs? If that's the case I'm
>> not personally in favor of this, I score mails on bug-gnu-emacs also
>> based on me being in Cc or not.
>
> Why should that be?  I have tested the new command out with bug#69647,
> and you weren't added automatically.  In fact, a quick grep tells me you
> aren't listed as the maintainer in any file, so you wouldn't be affected
> by this.

Maybe your patch should parse also admin/MAINTAINERS and collect names
from there as well?

>> I think the bug is that maintainers should be subscribed to
>> bug-gnu-emacs (otherwise I'm not sure how they can actually maintain).
>
> The issue is that for someone like me, who maintains a few little things
> around Emacs, following all bugs and all discussions would be too much.
>
>> Isn't a long list of people in Cc technically just another mailing list?
>
> It shouldn't be a long list, just the people responsible for the
> specific files being modified.  My idea is to have something comparable
> to Linux's "get_maintainer.pl"[0], and a bit more streamlined (assuming
> people even use M-x submit-emacs-patch).

If we want to Cc maintainers who are impacted by a patch I'm in favor,
if we want to Cc all maintainers then I'm not.  I haven't read your
patch but from the initial description I thought was the first case,
I've now the impression is the second.  Apologies if there was some
miss-understanding on my side.

Thanks

  Andrea




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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:

> Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>>> Tags: patch
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
>>> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
>>> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
>>> information from the Maintainer: header.
>>>
>>> One non-technical issue here is that the maintainer information might
>>> not be up to date.  I've run a quick scan to see who is mentioned how
>>> frequently.  It might be necessary to clean up this list or to check who
>>> is still around:
>>
>> Hi Philip,
>>
>> IIUC with this patch I'd be in Cc of all bugs? If that's the case I'm
>> not personally in favor of this, I score mails on bug-gnu-emacs also
>> based on me being in Cc or not.
>
> Why should that be?  I have tested the new command out with bug#69647,
> and you weren't added automatically.  In fact, a quick grep tells me you
> aren't listed as the maintainer in any file, so you wouldn't be affected
> by this.
>
>> I think the bug is that maintainers should be subscribed to
>> bug-gnu-emacs (otherwise I'm not sure how they can actually maintain).
>
> The issue is that for someone like me, who maintains a few little things
> around Emacs, following all bugs and all discussions would be too much.
>
>> Isn't a long list of people in Cc technically just another mailing list?
>
> It shouldn't be a long list, just the people responsible for the
> specific files being modified.  My idea is to have something comparable
> to Linux's "get_maintainer.pl"[0], and a bit more streamlined (assuming
> people even use M-x submit-emacs-patch).

Also see Bug#41373 -- IMO the really useful thing here would be to
expand this for reporting bugs in ELPA packages, where the maintainers
aren't necessarily subscribed to the main bug list.

Some time before that bug I'd proposed something similar, the patch is
here[1], it might be of some relevance.

[1]: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-05/msg01235.html




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Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Tags: patch
>>
>>
>> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
>> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
>> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
>> information from the Maintainer: header.
>>
>> One non-technical issue here is that the maintainer information might
>> not be up to date.  I've run a quick scan to see who is mentioned how
>> frequently.  It might be necessary to clean up this list or to check who
>> is still around:
>
> Hi Philip,
>
> IIUC with this patch I'd be in Cc of all bugs? If that's the case I'm
> not personally in favor of this, I score mails on bug-gnu-emacs also
> based on me being in Cc or not.

Why should that be?  I have tested the new command out with bug#69647,
and you weren't added automatically.  In fact, a quick grep tells me you
aren't listed as the maintainer in any file, so you wouldn't be affected
by this.

> I think the bug is that maintainers should be subscribed to
> bug-gnu-emacs (otherwise I'm not sure how they can actually maintain).

The issue is that for someone like me, who maintains a few little things
around Emacs, following all bugs and all discussions would be too much.

> Isn't a long list of people in Cc technically just another mailing list?

It shouldn't be a long list, just the people responsible for the
specific files being modified.  My idea is to have something comparable
to Linux's "get_maintainer.pl"[0], and a bit more streamlined (assuming
people even use M-x submit-emacs-patch).

[0] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/scripts/get_maintainer.pl

> My 2cents, thanks!
>
>   Andrea

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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:

> Tags: patch
>
>
> Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
> automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
> tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
> information from the Maintainer: header.
>
> One non-technical issue here is that the maintainer information might
> not be up to date.  I've run a quick scan to see who is mentioned how
> frequently.  It might be necessary to clean up this list or to check who
> is still around:

Hi Philip,

IIUC with this patch I'd be in Cc of all bugs? If that's the case I'm
not personally in favor of this, I score mails on bug-gnu-emacs also
based on me being in Cc or not.

I think the bug is that maintainers should be subscribed to
bug-gnu-emacs (otherwise I'm not sure how they can actually maintain).

Isn't a long list of people in Cc technically just another mailing list?

My 2cents, thanks!

  Andrea




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Tags: patch


Here's a suggestion, to have the submit-emacs-patch command
automatically ping maintainers, in case they are not following the bug
tracker.  Basically it goes through all the files and extracts the
information from the Maintainer: header.

One non-technical issue here is that the maintainer information might
not be up to date.  I've run a quick scan to see who is mentioned how
frequently.  It might be necessary to clean up this list or to check who
is still around:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
    339 emacs-devel@HIDDEN
    160 Eric M. Ludlam <zappo@HIDDEN>
     90 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
     40 David Gillespie <daveg@HIDDEN>
     39 Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
     37 F. Jason Park <jp@HIDDEN>
     37 Amin Bandali <bandali@HIDDEN>
     34 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
     34 John Wiegley <johnw@HIDDEN>
     33 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>
     28 Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@HIDDEN>
     24 Bill Wohler <wohler@HIDDEN>
     22 Simen Heggest=C3=B8yl <simenheg@HIDDEN>
     19 Michael Kifer <kifer@HIDDEN>
     18 Nicolas Goaziou <mail@HIDDEN>
     17 Simon Josefsson <simon@HIDDEN>
     17 Dave Love <fx@HIDDEN>
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      1 NAGY Andras <nagya@HIDDEN>
      1 Morten Welinder <terra@HIDDEN>
      1 Mohsen BANAN <emacs@HIDDEN>
      1 Michael McNamara <mac@HIDDEN>
      1 Michael Mauger <michael@HIDDEN>
      1 Michael Gschwind <mike@HIDDEN>
      1 Matthias Meulien <orontee@HIDDEN>
      1 Masanobu UMEDA <umerin@HIDDEN>
      1 Masahiko Sato <ms@HIDDEN>
      1 Markus Rost <rost@HIDDEN>
      1 Mark A. Hershberger <mah@HIDDEN>
      1 Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft@HIDDEN>
      1 Marco Wahl a <gmailcom>
      1 Marcin Borkowski <mbork@HIDDEN>
      1 Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@HIDDEN>
      1 Luke Lee <luke.yx.lee@HIDDEN>
      1 Luis R Anaya <papoanayaarobahotmailpuntocom>
      1 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>
      1 Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@HIDDEN>
      1 Lawrence Bottorff <borgauf@HIDDEN>
      1 Kristoffer Gr=C3=B6nlund <krig@HIDDEN>
      1 Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsenATfastmail.net>
      1 Koaunghi Un <koaunghi.un@HIDDEN>
      1 Kevin Ryde <user42@HIDDEN>
      1 Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@HIDDEN>
      1 Ken Stevens <k.stevens@HIDDEN>
      1 Ken Mankoff <mankoff@HIDDEN>
      1 Keith Amidon <camalot@HIDDEN>
      1 Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@HIDDEN>
      1 Kai Gro=C3=9Fjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@HIDDEN>
      1 Kai Gro=C3=9Fjohann <grossjohann@HIDDEN>
      1 Justin Talbott <justin@HIDDEN>
      1 Justin Abrahms <justin@HIDDEN>
      1 Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>
      1 J=C3=BCrgen H=C3=B6tzel <juergen@HIDDEN>
      1 Julien Gilles <jgilles@HIDDEN>
      1 Juergen Nickelsen <nickel@HIDDEN>
      1 Juan Le=C3=B3n Lahoz Garc=C3=ADa <juanleon1@HIDDEN>
      1 Jose A Ortega Ruiz <jao@HIDDEN>
      1 Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@HIDDEN>
      1 John Muhl <jm@HIDDEN>
      1 Joe Wells <jbw@HIDDEN>
      1 Joakim Verona <joakim@HIDDEN>
      1 Joakim Jalap <joakim.jalap@HIDDEN>
      1 Joakim Hove <hove@HIDDEN>
      1 Jesper Harder <harder@HIDDEN>
      1 Jeremie Juste <jeremiejuste@HIDDEN>
      1 Jens Petersen <petersen@HIDDEN>
      1 Jeff Peck <peck@HIDDEN>
      1 Jason Rumney <jasonr@HIDDEN>
      1 Jarno Malmari <jarno@HIDDEN>
      1 Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@HIDDEN>
      1 Jan Tatarik <Jan.Tatarik@HIDDEN>
      1 Jan Tatarik <jan.tatarik@HIDDEN>
      1 Jan Schormann <Jan.Schormann@HIDDEN>
      1 Jan Moringen <scymtym@HIDDEN>
      1 Jan B=C3=B6cker <jan.boeckeratjboeckerdotde>
      1 James Cloos <cloos@HIDDEN>
      1 Jambunathan K <kjambunathanatgmaildotcom>
      1 J. Alexander Branham <alex.branham@HIDDEN>
      1 Jack Kamm <jackkamm@HIDDEN>
      1 Ivar Rummelhoff <ivarru@HIDDEN>
      1 Inc. <bwarsaw@HIDDEN>
      1 Ilja Weis <kult@HIDDEN>
      1 Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN>
      1 Ian T Zimmerman <itz@HIDDEN>
      1 Ian Martins <ianxm@HIDDEN>
      1 Hrvoje Nik=C5=A1i=C4=87 <hrvoje.niksic@HIDDEN>
      1 Hovav Shacham <hovav@HIDDEN>
      1 Holger Schauer <Holger.Schauer@HIDDEN>
      1 Gerd Moellmann <gerd@HIDDEN>
      1 Gerd Moellmann <gerd@HIDDEN>
      1 Gary D. Foster <Gary.Foster@HIDDEN>
      1 Gary D. Foster <Gary.Foster@HIDDEN>
      1 F. Thomas May <uw-nsr!uw-warp!tom@HIDDEN>
      1 Francesco Potort=C3=AC <pot@HIDDEN>
      1 Felix S. T. Wu <wu@HIDDEN>
      1 Felix E. Klee <felix.klee@HIDDEN>
      1 Federico Tedin <federicotedin@HIDDEN>
      1 Fabi=C3=A1n E. Gallina <fgallina@HIDDEN>
      1 Espen Skoglund <esk@HIDDEN>
      1 Eshel Yaron <me@HIDDEN>
      1 Eli Tziperman <eliATdeas.harvard.edu>
      1 Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>
      1 Eduard Wiebe <usenet@HIDDEN>
      1 Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN>
      1 Detlev Zundel <dzu@HIDDEN>
      1 David Reitter <david.reitter@HIDDEN>
      1 David Moore <dmoore@HIDDEN>
      1 David M. Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN>
      1 David Leatherman <leathekd@HIDDEN>
      1 David K=C3=A5gedal <davidk@HIDDEN>
      1 David Engster <dengste@HIDDEN>
      1 David Engster <deng@HIDDEN>
      1 Dan Nicolaescu <done@HIDDEN>
      1 Dan Nicolaescu <dann@HIDDEN>
      1 Daniel Mendler <mail@HIDDEN>
      1 Daniel Fleischer <danflscr@HIDDEN>
      1 Dan Davison <davisonatstatsdotoxdotacdotuk>
      1 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@HIDDEN>
      1 Dale R. Worley <worley@HIDDEN>
      1 Corwin Brust <corwin@HIDDEN>
      1 Compat Development <~pkal/compat-devel@HIDDEN>
      1 Christoph Wedler <Christoph.Wedler@HIDDEN>
      1 Christopher J. Madsen <chris_madsen@HIDDEN>
      1 Chris Smith <csmith@HIDDEN>
      1 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken>
      1 Brian Cully <bjc@HIDDEN>
      1 Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@HIDDEN>
      1 Bill Rozas <jinx@HIDDEN>
      1 Bill Perry <wmperry@HIDDEN>
      1 Bill Carpenter <bill@HIDDEN>
      1 Benjamin Drieu <bdrieu@HIDDEN>
      1 Bastien Guerry <bzgATalternDOTorg>
      1 Arni Magnusson <arnima@HIDDEN>
      1 Arne J=C3=B8rgensen <arne@HIDDEN>
      1 Anna M. Bigatti <bigatti@HIDDEN>
      1 Andy Stewart <lazycat.manatee@HIDDEN>
      1 Andy Stewart <lazycatdotmanateeatgmaildotcom>
      1 Andrew Csillag <drew@HIDDEN>
      1 Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi <andras.simonyi@HIDDEN>
      1 Alexandre Oliva <oliva@HIDDEN>
      1 Alexandre Julliard <julliard@HIDDEN>
      1 Albert Krewinkel <tarleb@HIDDEN>
      1 Alan Mackenzie <acm@HIDDEN>
      1 Aidan Gauland <aidalgol@HIDDEN>
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The patch already includes a blacklist, to avoid emacs-devel@HIDDEN
from being pinged.

In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-03-08 built on peregrine
Repository revision: 4818022c7c45b04c55cf2a80ef689ee2681a5d78
Repository branch: master
System Description: Fedora Linux 39 (Workstation Edition)

Configured using:
 'configure --with-pgtk --with-native-compilation=3Daot
 --with-imagemagick'


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From 8701afcf721098f7e58204d7ddeb1977cfa84336 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 16:32:02 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Have insert 'submit-emacs-patch' maintainers into
 X-Debbugs-Cc

* lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
(submit-emacs-patch-excluded-maintainers): Add new variable.
(submit-emacs-patch): Go through all files mentioned in the diff
and check for maintainers.
---
 lisp/mail/emacsbug.el | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 28 insertions(+)

diff --git a/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el b/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
index e89e66cc7cb..d6639c67c49 100644
--- a/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
+++ b/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
@@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
 
 (require 'sendmail)
 (require 'message)
+(require 'lisp-mnt)
 
 (defgroup emacsbug nil
   "Sending Emacs bug reports."
@@ -497,6 +498,10 @@ report-emacs-bug-hook
     (when (get-buffer-window help)
       (quit-window nil (get-buffer-window help)))))
 
+(defvar submit-emacs-patch-excluded-maintainers
+  '("emacs-devel@HIDDEN")
+  "List of maintainer addresses for `submit-emacs-patch' to ignore.")
+
 ;;;###autoload
 (defun submit-emacs-patch (subject file)
   "Send an Emacs patch to the Emacs maintainers.
@@ -532,6 +537,29 @@ submit-emacs-patch
     (view-mode 1)
     (button-mode 1))
   (compose-mail-other-window report-emacs-bug-address subject)
+  (let ((maint (let (files)
+                 (with-temp-buffer
+                   (insert-file-contents file)
+                   (while (search-forward-regexp "^\\+\\{3\\} ./\\(.*\\)" nil t)
+                     (push (expand-file-name
+                            (match-string-no-properties 1)
+                            source-directory)
+                           files)))
+                 (mapcan
+                  (lambda (patch)
+                    (seq-remove
+                     (pcase-lambda (`(,_name . ,addr))
+                       (not (member addr submit-emacs-patch-excluded-maintainers)))
+                     (lm-maintainers patch)))
+                  files))))
+    (when maint
+      (rfc822-goto-eoh)
+      (insert "X-Debbugs-Cc: "
+              (mapconcat
+               (pcase-lambda (`(,name . ,addr))
+                 (format "%s <%s>" name addr))
+               maint ", ")
+              "\n")))
   (message-goto-body)
   (insert "\n\n\n")
   (emacs-build-description)
-- 
2.44.0


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Acknowledgement sent to Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#69646; Package emacs. Full text available.
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