X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#69662: 30.0.50; PGTK Window system supports drag-and-drop but doesn't define x-begin-drag Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 03:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.69662.B.170995426310429 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 69662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.170995426310429 (code B ref -1); Sat, 09 Mar 2024 03:18:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2024 03:17:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rinDR-0002i7-IV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; 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envelope-from=bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN; helo=thaodan.de X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, INVALID_MSGID=0.568, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) I noticed when investigating why drag and drop wasn't working in my setup that pgtk doesn't define `x-begin-drag' but defines functions for drag and drop support. That x-begin-drag isn't present breaks `dnd-begin-text-drag` and friend. 1. Build Emacs with at least --with-pgtk 2. Call `dnd-begin-text-drag' 3. Error In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.39, cairo version 1.18.0) System Description: openSUSE Tumbleweed Configured using: 'configure --disable-build-details --without-pop --with-mailutils --without-hesiod --with-gameuser=:games --with-kerberos --with-kerberos5 --with-file-notification=inotify --with-modules --enable-autodepend --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --with-file-notification=yes --libdir=/usr/lib64 --with-native-compilation=aot --enable-locallisppath=/usr/share/emacs/30.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-x --with-xim --with-sound --with-xpm --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png --with-rsvg --with-dbus --with-xft --without-gpm --with-tree-sitter --with-pgtk --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --x-includes=/usr/include --x-libraries=/usr/lib64 --with-libotf --with-m17n-flt --with-cairo --with-xwidgets --build=x86_64-suse-linux --with-dumping=pdumper 'CFLAGS=-O2 -Wall -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -fstack-protector-strong -funwind-tables -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection -Werror=return-type -flto=auto -g -D_GNU_SOURCE -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS -DGLIB_DISABLE_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS -pipe -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-unused-variable -Wno-unused-label -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -DPDMP_BASE='\''"emacs-gtk"'\''' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O2' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: fi_FI.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: POSIX value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Org Minor modes in effect: dap-tooltip-mode: t 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6f17b907adbe48041f8018333bdcb13b; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 10:55:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87cys42ixp.fsf@> ("=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar"'s message of "Sat, 09 Mar 2024 05:16:50 +0200") References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 18:55:34 +0800 Message-ID: <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22129 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 632 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN> writes: > I noticed when investigating why drag and drop wasn't working > in my setup that pgtk doesn't define `x-begin-drag' but defines > functions for drag and drop support. > That x-begin-drag isn't present breaks `dnd-begin-text-drag` and friend. > > 1. Build Emacs with at least --with-pgtk > 2. Call `dnd-begin-text-drag' > 3. Error As I've explained elsewhere, GTK's limitations and corner-cutting poses special difficulties for drag-and-drop implementations, for which reason I decided against implementing that for the PGTK build myself. Patches will, as ever, be appreciated.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#69662: 30.0.50; PGTK Window system supports drag-and-drop but doesn't define x-begin-drag Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.69662.B69662.17104060231650 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 69662-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B69662.17104060231650 (code B ref 69662); Thu, 14 Mar 2024 08:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 69662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2024 08:47:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48301 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rkgjv-0000QX-Gh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:47:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40498) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rkgjt-0000Pq-W2 for 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:47:02 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rkgjE-0001F8-Tc; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:46:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=tAHH2TAQCSHU9G8C41lz9oxbwpWdfVYSS+9AdRLMBWQ=; b=WG+j+VcJUihIu9qG3Xm6 yL/K8/nIrCBjseUhu3IzORzy3J8ShQaDWBW/JSTJ1TjODJnUtcDeZwxL45RWOngCMRLgMyVLIjJSS pghD43Y7idKmdQJDGKxGhNwog4M7VVOeZrnsJFoe2SyyddTZgIrSF9xET5oLhuHLZz1yic6kdg7qc QwGmS3fL4v7/QbGLt+0N8u7hxfPt3rGJ8CV9Gn/1BTXtMQ2fAM7LV+ULEwE/O6oKq3sXJBugi/cgs CuXixNygzOdPEASAt1zAVWe+bSBzo/+8yXX/Yv3UjgrwFk89J83jRZK9lW3hId6KBO6gYBqA1cslI QOZjOkAWitqTqg==; Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:46:14 +0200 Message-Id: <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> (bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN) References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 18:55:34 +0800 > From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN> writes: > > > I noticed when investigating why drag and drop wasn't working > > in my setup that pgtk doesn't define `x-begin-drag' but defines > > functions for drag and drop support. > > That x-begin-drag isn't present breaks `dnd-begin-text-drag` and friend. > > > > 1. Build Emacs with at least --with-pgtk > > 2. Call `dnd-begin-text-drag' > > 3. Error > > As I've explained elsewhere, GTK's limitations and corner-cutting poses > special difficulties for drag-and-drop implementations, for which reason > I decided against implementing that for the PGTK build myself. Patches > will, as ever, be appreciated. What does this mean in practice, though? Does it mean drag-and-drop doesn't work at all in the PGTK builds? Or only some aspects of that don't work? We should at least document the limitations. Thanks.
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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Cc: 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 18:55:34 +0800 >> From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> >>=20 >> Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN> writes: >>=20 >> > I noticed when investigating why drag and drop wasn't working >> > in my setup that pgtk doesn't define `x-begin-drag' but defines >> > functions for drag and drop support. >> > That x-begin-drag isn't present breaks `dnd-begin-text-drag` and frien= d. >> > >> > 1. Build Emacs with at least --with-pgtk >> > 2. Call `dnd-begin-text-drag' >> > 3. Error >>=20 >> As I've explained elsewhere, GTK's limitations and corner-cutting poses >> special difficulties for drag-and-drop implementations, for which reason >> I decided against implementing that for the PGTK build myself. Patches >> will, as ever, be appreciated. > > What does this mean in practice, though? Does it mean drag-and-drop > doesn't work at all in the PGTK builds? Or only some aspects of that > don't work? We should at least document the limitations. > > Thanks. I also wonder why does it not work in Emacs while other GTK applications don't have the same issue? There must be ways around the issue.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e8f14af1cb968a39c728ab66b2b911cc; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 13:52:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87cyrxys5z.fsf@> ("=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar"'s message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2024 13:22:16 +0200") References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:52:25 +0800 Message-ID: <87bk7gvs2u.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22129 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1348 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN> writes: > I also wonder why does it not work in Emacs while other GTK applications > don't have the same issue? Our standards are higher than those of other applications, because of the detailed control our drag-and-drop primitives afford to Lisp. To achieve this, we expect GTK to meet the perfectly reasonable standard that certain functions must function in the manner detailed by their documentation, yet the GDK Wayland backend implements them only to the degree of completeness required by GTK's useless drag-and-drop abstraction, again demonstrating utter disregard for programs not privileged enough to receive its developers' tireless attentions. Asking for a fix is an exercise in futility; whenever they are approached to this effect, their attitude alternates between being dismissive and being confrontational, but never admitting that they might be at fault. E.g. consider the recent fiasco over font hinting, where they continued to insist on their faultlessness despite making a release to address what was otherwise universally seen as an issue. > There must be ways around the issue. It's only that I'm not volunteering to find them with a band of unrepentant megalomaniacs waiting to frustrate me at every stage of the process. Patches welcome, as always, and thanks in advance.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#69662: 30.0.50; PGTK Window system supports drag-and-drop but doesn't define x-begin-drag Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.69662.B69662.171050339715883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 69662-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B69662.171050339715883 (code B ref 69662); Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 69662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2024 11:49:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rl64S-000487-JX for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 07:49:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rl64Q-00047u-W9 for 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 07:49:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rl63l-0006Ey-CJ; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 07:49:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=er91MnZER1S7QVOVglA4AqYmSv18VHaEUG+wO+R33pI=; b=OHmWqaNCllKd NBm32HXwzdLVTHeJ0+/THCF2Jlt9WOVzN3UYMDzvDwIxM3C7ulh/Q0lMMuvuHTgbmhZLBBNNDSSkx MfTO55cH5Yt8tOkyn+nDxQgYPqHliTZD6+lnecSKlIL+ac+tFcAjmPlYOw83qnMwDh3bXtJlGVevC IZ+PCFzhm/LcpUpFJ1EYyYw9W7Ivc/2crJFB3DUpOvDjf2USNmZR0/Z7WHT/c7DLiwbcMaRoYo1rh ipCFmxx4CoinqtfESEWm/LdKESobDIeyYousPXzvB3wSlLIijGpAPPQ9NjCgyUljAkgQj2PPY+PEB fy8VjvYUQ6696jdAr/VbvA==; Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 13:49:08 +0200 Message-Id: <86h6h790ln.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87bk7gvs2u.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Po Lu on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:52:25 +0800) References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87bk7gvs2u.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:52:25 +0800 > > > There must be ways around the issue. > > It's only that I'm not volunteering to find them with a band of > unrepentant megalomaniacs waiting to frustrate me at every stage of the > process. Patches welcome, as always, and thanks in advance. Please also answer my question up-thread: > What does this mean in practice, though? Does it mean drag-and-drop > doesn't work at all in the PGTK builds? Or only some aspects of that > don't work? We should at least document the limitations.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3b65b99c0a7ce6305c9ddcc694e2b81e; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:45:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:46:14 +0200") References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:45:52 +0800 Message-ID: <87h6h7u0hr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22129 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 457 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > What does this mean in practice, though? Does it mean drag-and-drop > doesn't work at all in the PGTK builds? Or only some aspects of that > don't work? We should at least document the limitations. The implication is that it's not possible to drag files or text _from_ Emacs into other programs, which is documented in the doc strings of the relevant minor modes and functions. Sorry I overlooked this question.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#69662: 30.0.50; PGTK Window system supports drag-and-drop but doesn't define x-begin-drag Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.69662.B69662.171050716032698 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 69662-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B69662.171050716032698 (code B ref 69662); Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 69662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2024 12:52:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rl73A-0008VK-8O for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:52:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rl737-0008V6-Az for 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:52:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rl72R-0002pf-Kw; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:51:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sP3ijBqzC7oBvVEx387BcRQSyd3EosdAfkoFESAGY3o=; b=OOewRh4cGnPU YDL/1Fwod4LOX/adbfCmjZ/N1V8z9ekYmpn+Vx8+T66c8cuTFy5ju7h2qQ1m2Yyx3vJ3+eOkH4JKw SZBALWoBDDm6kHDLXjPcGTvxStKoEe0ZJym/Zp8Him5KEWv+UNB+4QMVlkFJqeQ6InbmL1NhTB27i KCE4J7zt3qLQbK6asy0aF59rSBK5uthIpq91tqLCKt0/FbZQdZ2h2i699HF6ISkEbUUfmK4iECtNb igI7QhXvhVr8LsnEUV9yazWTz7jXqOAFkQJKnqBuL/rH4qHoLKHKBOO3B0OSRcmKPLGyAN1EM+/H8 7ccu5BCF6YRdvSxqYA0i6A==; Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:51:51 +0200 Message-Id: <868r2j8xp4.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87h6h7u0hr.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:45:52 +0800) References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87h6h7u0hr.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:45:52 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > What does this mean in practice, though? Does it mean drag-and-drop > > doesn't work at all in the PGTK builds? Or only some aspects of that > > don't work? We should at least document the limitations. > > The implication is that it's not possible to drag files or text _from_ > Emacs into other programs, which is documented in the doc strings of the > relevant minor modes and functions. Which doc strings mention that?
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 08ab41313b1a5e8b3160fd5b6ea37777; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 13:25:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <868r2j8xp4.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:51:51 +0200") References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87h6h7u0hr.fsf@HIDDEN> <868r2j8xp4.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:24:57 +0800 Message-ID: <87a5mztyom.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22129 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 499 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Which doc strings mention that? dired-mouse-drag-files mentions that: This feature is supported only on X Windows, Haiku, and Nextstep (macOS or GNUstep). and mouse-drag-mode-line-buffer: This option is only supported on X, Haiku and Nextstep (GNUstep or macOS). for example. (elisp)Drag and Drop also features this disclaimer: It is also possible to drag content from Emacs to other programs when this is supported by the current window-system.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#69662: 30.0.50; PGTK Window system supports drag-and-drop but doesn't define x-begin-drag Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.69662.B69662.171058685527260 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 69662-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B69662.171058685527260 (code B ref 69662); Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 69662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2024 11:00:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rlRmZ-00075c-BV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:00:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35864) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rlRmX-00075P-BB for 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:00:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rlRlq-0006Ju-Ar; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:00:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=vgqMsZlq/gXLGUyADQF4OWk+B5PB1B00E0bUYGyaSCA=; b=XPadlP1mRTVz v0nC41FHziOu/ChW9U0KW0X8Tn4fh+yI2m95wR11pD3K1mjxWBOUHGmLDbHoTXqAGUR1C3QYwtNs8 i45+kjtdf0kUYFNfyIjX4Xuyx6XRBGF6zG3ifD5T02Y3ScwMNLvcFEI3vltZDnyUG34BAPbBoMXQX pdCnOiNZns+RKUqwFrLu0jUN64QZeSnvgvHJFWQbhgYWmQx6C5QH81vmX6Wc/y5du8z76/9PxwngJ Sf4eWX2uSD6wRgaDlOjyq1v+4X1gCFJHi0gQ6Ekg6BG/0Oe85wr52ZtdTbKxUrF/LGJsLm9xptPR+ LH0st2Pfnh/J/o9K05xZ8A==; Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:00:06 +0200 Message-Id: <867ci2787d.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87a5mztyom.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:24:57 +0800) References: <87il1vy8rd.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87il1vy8rd.fsf@HIDDEN> <86bk7hb3qh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87h6h7u0hr.fsf@HIDDEN> <868r2j8xp4.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a5mztyom.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Cc: bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN, 69662 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:24:57 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Which doc strings mention that? > > dired-mouse-drag-files mentions that: > > This feature is supported only on X Windows, Haiku, and Nextstep (macOS > or GNUstep). > > and mouse-drag-mode-line-buffer: > > This option is only supported on X, Haiku and Nextstep (GNUstep or > macOS). > > for example. (elisp)Drag and Drop also features this disclaimer: > > It is also possible to drag content from Emacs to other programs when > this is supported by the current window-system. Thanks, I added the same caveat to a few more functions' doc strings.
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