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Package: emacs; Reported by: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN>; Keywords: notabug; Done: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> tags 69934 notabug
> thanks
>
>> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500
>>
>> Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that includes 'auto-revert tail' and 'display-line'?
>>
>> ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-
>
> Such requests for help should be posted to help-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, not
> here.
>
> To answer your question: it is better to use the file-local variables
> section at the end of the file if you have more than one file-local
> setting.  See the node "Specifying File Variables" in the Emacs user
> manual for a detailed description.

I'm therefore closing this bug report.




Notification sent to Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN>:
bug acknowledged by developer. Full text available.
Reply sent to Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>:
You have taken responsibility. Full text available.

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God bless you.

Just what I needed.

Thanks so much,

Bob


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 3:18=E2=80=AFAM Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.=
net>
wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500 Robert Boyer <
> robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> > Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that
> > includes 'auto-revert tail' and 'display-line'?
> >
> > ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-
>
> The Emacs manual says (evaluate this sexp if you have the Info file
> installed: (info "(emacs) Specifying File Variables")):
>
>       Do not use the =E2=80=98mode=E2=80=99 keyword for minor modes.  To =
enable or disable
>    a minor mode in a local variables list, use the =E2=80=98eval=E2=80=99=
 keyword with a
>    Lisp expression that runs the mode command (*note Minor Modes::).  For
>    example, the following local variables list enables ElDoc mode (*note
>    Programming Language Doc::) by calling =E2=80=98eldoc-mode=E2=80=99 wi=
th no argument
>    (calling it with an argument of 1 would do the same), and disables Fon=
t
>    Lock mode (*note Font Lock::) by calling =E2=80=98font-lock-mode=E2=80=
=99 with an
>    argument of =E2=88=921.
>
>         ;; Local Variables:
>         ;; eval: (eldoc-mode)
>         ;; eval: (font-lock-mode -1)
>         ;; End:
>
>    Note, however, that it is often a mistake to specify minor modes this
>    way.  Minor modes represent individual user preferences, and it may be
>    inappropriate to impose your preferences on another user who might edi=
t
>    the file.  If you wish to automatically enable or disable a minor mode
>    in a situation-dependent way, it is often better to do it in a major
>    mode hook (*note Hooks::).
>
> So you could use this:
>
> ;; -*- eval: (auto-revert-mode); eval: (auto-revert-tail-mode); eval:
> (display-line-numbers-mode) -*-
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
>
> Steve Berman
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">God bless you.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mo=
nospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monosp=
ace">Just what I needed.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:monospace">Thanks so much,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:monospace">Bob</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:m=
onospace"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 3:18=E2=80=AFAM Stephen Berman =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stephen.berman@HIDDEN">stephen.berman@HIDDEN</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu,=
 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500 Robert Boyer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robertstephe=
nboyer@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that<b=
r>
&gt; includes &#39;auto-revert tail&#39; and &#39;display-line&#39;?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-<br>
<br>
The Emacs manual says (evaluate this sexp if you have the Info file<br>
installed: (info &quot;(emacs) Specifying File Variables&quot;)):<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do not use the =E2=80=98mode=E2=80=99 keyword for mino=
r modes.=C2=A0 To enable or disable<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a minor mode in a local variables list, use the =E2=80=98eval=
=E2=80=99 keyword with a<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Lisp expression that runs the mode command (*note Minor Modes:=
:).=C2=A0 For<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0example, the following local variables list enables ElDoc mode=
 (*note<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Programming Language Doc::) by calling =E2=80=98eldoc-mode=E2=
=80=99 with no argument<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(calling it with an argument of 1 would do the same), and disa=
bles Font<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Lock mode (*note Font Lock::) by calling =E2=80=98font-lock-mo=
de=E2=80=99 with an<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0argument of =E2=88=921.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ;; Local Variables:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ;; eval: (eldoc-mode)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ;; eval: (font-lock-mode -1)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ;; End:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Note, however, that it is often a mistake to specify minor mod=
es this<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0way.=C2=A0 Minor modes represent individual user preferences, =
and it may be<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0inappropriate to impose your preferences on another user who m=
ight edit<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the file.=C2=A0 If you wish to automatically enable or disable=
 a minor mode<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0in a situation-dependent way, it is often better to do it in a=
 major<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0mode hook (*note Hooks::).<br>
<br>
So you could use this:<br>
<br>
;; -*- eval: (auto-revert-mode); eval: (auto-revert-tail-mode); eval: (disp=
lay-line-numbers-mode) -*-<br>
<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Bob<br>
<br>
Steve Berman<br>
</blockquote></div>

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Thanks for your very kind reply.

I will use help-gnu-emacs in the future for such pleas for help.

I do understand your suggestion to use the end of file stuff.  I use
it all the time.

However, in my one particular case I have a huge file
that is growing at the end and I love to watch it with 'tail' mode
and line numbers.

Thanks,

Bob


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:22=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> tags 69934 notabug
> thanks
>
> > From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500
> >
> > Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that
> includes 'auto-revert tail' and 'display-line'?
> >
> > ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-
>
> Such requests for help should be posted to help-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, not
> here.
>
> To answer your question: it is better to use the file-local variables
> section at the end of the file if you have more than one file-local
> setting.  See the node "Specifying File Variables" in the Emacs user
> manual for a detailed description.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">Thanks for your very kind reply.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:monospace">I will use help-gnu-emacs in=C2=A0the future for suc=
h pleas for help.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mo=
nospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monosp=
ace">I do understand your suggestion to use the end of file stuff.=C2=A0 I =
use</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">it al=
l the time.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
monospace">However, in my one particular case I have a huge file</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">that is growing at =
the end and I love to watch it with &#39;tail&#39; mode</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">and line numbers.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Thanks,</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Bob</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, M=
ar 22, 2024 at 2:22=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@gnu=
.org">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">tags 69934 notabug<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
&gt; From: Robert Boyer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN"=
 target=3D"_blank">robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that i=
ncludes &#39;auto-revert tail&#39; and &#39;display-line&#39;?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-<br>
<br>
Such requests for help should be posted to <a href=3D"mailto:help-gnu-emacs=
@gnu.org" target=3D"_blank">help-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>, not<br>
here.<br>
<br>
To answer your question: it is better to use the file-local variables<br>
section at the end of the file if you have more than one file-local<br>
setting.=C2=A0 See the node &quot;Specifying File Variables&quot; in the Em=
acs user<br>
manual for a detailed description.<br>
</blockquote></div>

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500 Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN=
om> wrote:

> Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that
> includes 'auto-revert tail' and 'display-line'?
>
> ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-

The Emacs manual says (evaluate this sexp if you have the Info file
installed: (info "(emacs) Specifying File Variables")):

      Do not use the =E2=80=98mode=E2=80=99 keyword for minor modes.  To en=
able or disable
   a minor mode in a local variables list, use the =E2=80=98eval=E2=80=99 k=
eyword with a
   Lisp expression that runs the mode command (*note Minor Modes::).  For
   example, the following local variables list enables ElDoc mode (*note
   Programming Language Doc::) by calling =E2=80=98eldoc-mode=E2=80=99 with=
 no argument
   (calling it with an argument of 1 would do the same), and disables Font
   Lock mode (*note Font Lock::) by calling =E2=80=98font-lock-mode=E2=80=
=99 with an
   argument of =E2=88=921.
=20=20=20
        ;; Local Variables:
        ;; eval: (eldoc-mode)
        ;; eval: (font-lock-mode -1)
        ;; End:
=20=20=20
   Note, however, that it is often a mistake to specify minor modes this
   way.  Minor modes represent individual user preferences, and it may be
   inappropriate to impose your preferences on another user who might edit
   the file.  If you wish to automatically enable or disable a minor mode
   in a situation-dependent way, it is often better to do it in a major
   mode hook (*note Hooks::).

So you could use this:

;; -*- eval: (auto-revert-mode); eval: (auto-revert-tail-mode); eval: (disp=
lay-line-numbers-mode) -*-

> Thanks,
>
> Bob

Steve Berman




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> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 20:17:09 -0500
> 
> Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that includes 'auto-revert tail' and 'display-line'?
> 
> ;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-

Such requests for help should be posted to help-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, not
here.

To answer your question: it is better to use the file-local variables
section at the end of the file if you have more than one file-local
setting.  See the node "Specifying File Variables" in the Emacs user
manual for a detailed description.




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bug#69934; Package emacs. Full text available.

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Could some kind soul give me a line like the following, but one that
includes 'auto-revert tail' and 'display-line'?

;;; -*- Mode: auto-revert -*-

Thanks,

Bob

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