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Missing ./doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi

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Package: guix; Reported by: Rostislav Svoboda <rostislav.svoboda@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 2 Apr 2024 14:01:01 UTC; Maintainer for guix is bug-guix@HIDDEN.

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From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@HIDDEN>
To: Rostislav Svoboda <rostislav.svoboda@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#70140: Missing ./doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi
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My apologies for not giving a good response.

Yes, the issue you mention is indeed different from a record ABI
mismatch, in that the error message for an ABI message says
=E2=80=9Crecompilation needed=E2=80=9D and is documented in the manual, unl=
ike the
problematic error message that you reported.

Adding a note to doc/guix.texi would target the wrong audience, though,
because every Guix developer needs to rerun ./bootstrap, not only the
developer who added the translation.

The error message you reported

automake-1.16: error: cannot open < ./doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi: No
such file or directory

can be traced with =E2=80=9Cmake --trace=E2=80=9D.  It is because the
Autotools-generated Makefile recognizes that doc/local.mk has changed
and therefore runs =E2=80=9Cautomake-1.16 --gnu Makefile=E2=80=9D, which sc=
ans for the
Texinfo files mentioned in info_TEXINFOS and cannot open the mentioned
file.

Currrently the file =E2=80=9Cbootstrap=E2=80=9D is a script that creates
=E2=80=9Cdoc/guix.${lang}.texi=E2=80=9D stub files.  When you don=E2=80=99t=
 run =E2=80=9Cbootstrap=E2=80=9D, the
files are missing.

At first sight, instead of creating the stub files in =E2=80=9Cbootstrap=E2=
=80=9D, files
with

@setfilename guix.pt_BR.info
@include version-pt_BR.texi

for all languages could be pushed to guix.git by the developer who adds
the translation.  However, this is not enough, because =E2=80=9Cbootstrap=
=E2=80=9D still
must run =E2=80=9Ctouch po/doc/guix-manual.eo.po=E2=80=9D, otherwise the PO=
4A rule to
create =E2=80=9Cdoc/version-pt_BR.texi=E2=80=9D is not run by GNU Make.

So there is no solution, is there?

Regards,
Florian




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Hi Florian,

> This advice [...] I don=E2=80=99t think [...] it is worth the notificatio=
n [...]

It ate me away ~1 work-hour, from the "It doesn't compile, what the
hell!?!" moment, all the way through the "What am I doing wrong?...
Nothing!" phases, until I found the culprit. And then the search for a
solution... in vain. So I wrote a bug report. Then it ate some 3
minutes from Efraim's time and 10 minutes of yours, I guess, and now
15 minutes of mine again.

And this will repeat basically every time we add a new language.
Currently, we're at 7 for the manual and 6 for the cookbook. Adding 5
new in each... In short, this is going to cost us 1 or 2
person-work-days, I estimate. And the indirect costs may be much
higher. E.g. if somebody thinks "I'm going to learn Guix while
translating it to my mother language" trips over this, well then he or
she may just throw it all away in frustration. Ups.

> also, many would not read it.

Except, it will be picked up by search engines and the AI(!):

Q: Hello, ChatGPT, tell me, am I the most handsome on this planet and
why doesn't the `make doc/guix.texi` compile? Somebody added a new
language aaaaand... it doesn't work anymore. Grrrh!
A: Oh well, you just need to rerun `./bootstrap` and `./configure`
when a new language is added to the Guix manual or cookbook. And the
most handsome on this planet? Forward-thinking people, kind enough to
write things down, so that others like me and you can learn from them.

Cheers, Bost




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Hello Rostislav,

This advice would not be read by most affected Guix developers.  The
problem is that every guix developer must rerun ./bootstrap and
./configure on pulling certain changes like ABI breaks (when a new
record is added) and new cookbook versions.

Every Guix developer making a breaking change could put a notice
somewhere where it can be displayed from a pull hook, if that is
possible, but I don=E2=80=99t think developers would remember or that it is
worth the notification, also many would not read it.

Regards,
Florian




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> Rerun ./bootstrap and configure, then make

Yeap that helped. Thank you Efraim.

BTW there's a corresponding comment in the doc/local.mk which could be improved:

modified   doc/local.mk
@@ -21,7 +21,8 @@
 # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 # along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

-# If adding a language, update the following variables, and info_TEXINFOS.
+# If adding a language, update the following variables, and info_TEXINFOS and
+# rerun ./configure

And while at it, also the manual
https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Writing-Documentation.html:

modified   doc/contributing.texi
@@ -2737,9 +2737,9 @@ Writing Documentation
 @xref{Translating Guix} for more information.

 To render documentation, you must first make sure that you ran
-@command{./configure} in your source tree (@pxref{Running Guix Before
-It Is Installed}).  After that you can run one of the following
-commands:
+@command{./configure} in your source tree (@pxref{Running Guix Before It
+Is Installed}).  This step must be done when adding a new language, too.
+After that you can run one of the following commands:


What do you think, should we patch these files?

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Rerun ./bootstrap and configure, then make

On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 03:59:36PM +0200, Rostislav Svoboda wrote:
> $ guix shell --development guix direnv gnupg --pure --
> bost@ecke ~/dev/guix [env]$ make doc/guix.texi
>  cd . && /bin/sh /home/bost/dev/guix/build-aux/missing automake-1.16
> --gnu Makefile
> Makefile.am:922: warning: AM_GNU_GETTEXT used but 'po' not in SUBDIRS
> automake-1.16: error: cannot open < ./doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi: No
> such file or directory
> make: *** [Makefile:4349: Makefile.in] Error 1
>=20
> And I think it is caused by:
>=20
> $ git show --format=3Dmedium fa98837b1d9586b9ca7bf77dae22c3bde0fc59b5 doc=
/local.mk
> commit fa98837b1d9586b9ca7bf77dae22c3bde0fc59b5
> Author: Florian Pelz <pelzflorian@HIDDEN>
> Date:   Mon Apr 1 00:54:32 2024
>=20
>     nls: Update translations.
>=20
>     * po/guix/ar.po: New file.
>     * po/guix/LINGUAS: Add 'ar'.
>     * po/doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.po: New file.
>     * po/doc/local.mk: Add 'pt_BR' cookbook.
>     * doc/local.mk: Add 'pt_BR' cookbook.
>     * doc/htmlxref.cnf: Update URLs for cookbook.
>     * doc/build.scm (%cookbook-languages): Add 'ko', 'pt_BR'.
>     * doc/guix-cookbook.texi (Top): Mention 'ko', 'pt_BR' cookbook.
>=20
>     Change-Id: Id1846ca100263b3fc1fa2ed52654c670270ee809
>=20
> diff --git a/doc/local.mk b/doc/local.mk
> index 97f0c3a92a..0ff317a19e 100644
> --- a/doc/local.mk
> +++ b/doc/local.mk
> @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
>=20
>  # If adding a language, update the following variables, and info_TEXINFO=
S.
>  MANUAL_LANGUAGES =3D de es fr pt_BR ru zh_CN
> -COOKBOOK_LANGUAGES =3D de fr ko sk
> +COOKBOOK_LANGUAGES =3D de fr ko pt_BR sk
>=20
>  # Arg1: A list of languages codes.
>  # Arg2: The file name stem.
> @@ -42,6 +42,7 @@ info_TEXINFOS =3D %D%/guix.texi                 \
>    %D%/guix-cookbook.de.texi                    \
>    %D%/guix-cookbook.fr.texi                    \
>    %D%/guix-cookbook.ko.texi                    \
> +  %D%/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi                 \
>    %D%/guix-cookbook.sk.texi
>=20
>  %C%_guix_TEXINFOS =3D \
>=20
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$ guix shell --development guix direnv gnupg --pure --
bost@ecke ~/dev/guix [env]$ make doc/guix.texi
 cd . && /bin/sh /home/bost/dev/guix/build-aux/missing automake-1.16
--gnu Makefile
Makefile.am:922: warning: AM_GNU_GETTEXT used but 'po' not in SUBDIRS
automake-1.16: error: cannot open < ./doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi: No
such file or directory
make: *** [Makefile:4349: Makefile.in] Error 1

And I think it is caused by:

$ git show --format=medium fa98837b1d9586b9ca7bf77dae22c3bde0fc59b5 doc/local.mk
commit fa98837b1d9586b9ca7bf77dae22c3bde0fc59b5
Author: Florian Pelz <pelzflorian@HIDDEN>
Date:   Mon Apr 1 00:54:32 2024

    nls: Update translations.

    * po/guix/ar.po: New file.
    * po/guix/LINGUAS: Add 'ar'.
    * po/doc/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.po: New file.
    * po/doc/local.mk: Add 'pt_BR' cookbook.
    * doc/local.mk: Add 'pt_BR' cookbook.
    * doc/htmlxref.cnf: Update URLs for cookbook.
    * doc/build.scm (%cookbook-languages): Add 'ko', 'pt_BR'.
    * doc/guix-cookbook.texi (Top): Mention 'ko', 'pt_BR' cookbook.

    Change-Id: Id1846ca100263b3fc1fa2ed52654c670270ee809

diff --git a/doc/local.mk b/doc/local.mk
index 97f0c3a92a..0ff317a19e 100644
--- a/doc/local.mk
+++ b/doc/local.mk
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@

 # If adding a language, update the following variables, and info_TEXINFOS.
 MANUAL_LANGUAGES = de es fr pt_BR ru zh_CN
-COOKBOOK_LANGUAGES = de fr ko sk
+COOKBOOK_LANGUAGES = de fr ko pt_BR sk

 # Arg1: A list of languages codes.
 # Arg2: The file name stem.
@@ -42,6 +42,7 @@ info_TEXINFOS = %D%/guix.texi                 \
   %D%/guix-cookbook.de.texi                    \
   %D%/guix-cookbook.fr.texi                    \
   %D%/guix-cookbook.ko.texi                    \
+  %D%/guix-cookbook.pt_BR.texi                 \
   %D%/guix-cookbook.sk.texi

 %C%_guix_TEXINFOS = \




Acknowledgement sent to Rostislav Svoboda <rostislav.svoboda@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-guix@HIDDEN:
bug#70140; Package guix. Full text available.
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