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If you get t from evaluating this elisp then I would assume the packages you >> mentioned need a newer RSVG DLL: >> >> (image-type-available-p 'svg) >> >> So far, I do not take new versions of DLLs used to compile Emacs for Windows except when >> releasing a new major version. So, according to my intentions, I will take the latest available stable >> version for RSVG -and GCC, and everything else- at the point we have an Emacs 30 pre-test (or hint >> of impending pre-test, probably). >> >> I think this reduces the likelihood of someone being unable to use the no-deps binary distributable >> due to having to old of a version, the more so the longer one waits into the given major version >> release cycle. By 29.3 it seems very unlikely someone still has an older RSVG than we provide that >> the want to keep. >> >> That unpacked, I'm open to discussions. Perhaps some constituent DLLs should be updated more >> aggressively; this could be worable given I can clearly understand when to update what. Alternately, >> someone might take up the position we should always use the latest versions of everything, including >> for point releases, or based in intervening time passing or number of upstream releases since new >> dep/dep-source archives have been created. >> >> The current process is simple for me and seems to cater to people who want maximum stability, but >> it is hardly set in stone. >> >> Thanks for reporting! >> Corwin > Is there more to do here, or should this be closed? The new Windows binaries for 30.1 no longer seem to suffer from this issue.
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Official Windows build - RSVG is either using an outdated version of the library or SVG support is not compiled correctly To: Corwin Brust <corwin@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70713 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Dewu <dewu@HIDDEN>, 70713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Corwin Brust <corwin@HIDDEN> writes: > On Thu, May 2, 2024, 10:50 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 08:01:58 +0200 > > From: Dewu <dewu@HIDDEN> > > > > I suspect that Emacs for Windows is either not built correctly with RSVG > > support, or > > the library it is built against is too old (librsvg-2-2.dll). > > This does not happen in Emacs built by MSYS2 (mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs) > > which > > appears to be using a newer version of librsvg > > (mingw-w64-x86_64-librsvg 2.58.0-1) > > I am traveling and cannot double check but I am fairly sure the feature test for rsvg passed for the > 29.3 set published. If you get t from evaluating this elisp then I would assume the packages you > mentioned need a newer RSVG DLL: > > (image-type-available-p 'svg) > > So far, I do not take new versions of DLLs used to compile Emacs for Windows except when > releasing a new major version. So, according to my intentions, I will take the latest available stable > version for RSVG -and GCC, and everything else- at the point we have an Emacs 30 pre-test (or hint > of impending pre-test, probably). > > I think this reduces the likelihood of someone being unable to use the no-deps binary distributable > due to having to old of a version, the more so the longer one waits into the given major version > release cycle. By 29.3 it seems very unlikely someone still has an older RSVG than we provide that > the want to keep. > > That unpacked, I'm open to discussions. Perhaps some constituent DLLs should be updated more > aggressively; this could be worable given I can clearly understand when to update what. Alternately, > someone might take up the position we should always use the latest versions of everything, including > for point releases, or based in intervening time passing or number of upstream releases since new > dep/dep-source archives have been created. > > The current process is simple for me and seems to cater to people who want maximum stability, but > it is hardly set in stone. > > Thanks for reporting! > Corwin Is there more to do here, or should this be closed?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#70713; Package emacs.
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If you get t from evaluating this elisp then I would assume the packages you mentioned need a newer RSVG DLL: (image-type-available-p 'svg) So far, I do not take new versions of DLLs used to compile Emacs for Windows except when releasing a new major version. So, according to my intentions, I will take the latest available stable version for RSVG -and GCC, and everything else- at the point we have an Emacs 30 pre-test (or hint of impending pre-test, probably). I think this reduces the likelihood of someone being unable to use the no-deps binary distributable due to having to old of a version, the more so the longer one waits into the given major version release cycle. By 29.3 it seems very unlikely someone still has an older RSVG than we provide that the want to keep. That unpacked, I'm open to discussions. Perhaps some constituent DLLs should be updated more aggressively; this could be worable given I can clearly understand when to update what. Alternately, someone might take up the position we should always use the latest versions of everything, including for point releases, or based in intervening time passing or number of upstream releases since new dep/dep-source archives have been created. The current process is simple for me and seems to cater to people who want maximum stability, but it is hardly set in stone. Thanks for reporting! Corwin > --0000000000002d98950617ab5a63 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div>On Thu, May 2, 2024, 10:50 Eli Zaretskii <<a href= =3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"a= uto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo= te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"= >> Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 08:01:58 +0200<br> > From: Dewu <<a href=3D"mailto:dewu@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel= =3D"noreferrer">dewu@HIDDEN</a>><br> > <br> > I suspect that Emacs for Windows is either not built correctly with RS= VG <br> > support, or<br> > the library it is built against is too old (librsvg-2-2.dll).<br> > This does not happen in Emacs built by MSYS2 (mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs) = <br> > which<br> > appears to be using a newer version of librsvg<br> > (mingw-w64-x86_64-librsvg 2.58.0-1)<br></blockquote></div></div><div d= ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I am traveling and cannot double ch= eck but I am fairly sure the feature test for rsvg passed for the 29.3 set = published. If you get t from evaluating this elisp then I would assume th= e packages you mentioned need a newer RSVG DLL:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>= </div><div dir=3D"auto">(image-type-available-p 'svg)</div><div dir=3D"= auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So far, I do not take new versions of DLL= s used to compile Emacs for Windows except when releasing a new major versi= on. So, according to my intentions, I will take the latest available stab= le version for RSVG -and GCC, and everything else- at the point we have an = Emacs 30 pre-test (or hint of impending pre-test, probably).</div><div dir= =3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I think this reduces the likelihood o= f someone being unable to use the no-deps binary distributable due to havin= g to old of a version, the more so the longer one waits into the given majo= r version release cycle. By 29.3 it seems very unlikely someone still has = an older RSVG than we provide that the want to keep.</div><div dir=3D"auto"= ><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">That unpacked, I'm open to discussions. P= erhaps some constituent DLLs should be updated more aggressively; this coul= d be worable given I can clearly understand when to update what. Alternate= ly, someone might take up the position we should always use the latest vers= ions of everything, including for point releases, or based in intervening t= ime passing or number of upstream releases since new dep/dep-source archive= s have been created.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The= current process is simple for me and seems to cater to people who want max= imum stability, but it is hardly set in stone.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><= /div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for reporting!</d= iv><div dir=3D"auto">Corwin</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quot= e" dir=3D"auto"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e= x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div></d= iv> --0000000000002d98950617ab5a63--
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#70713; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 70713) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2024 14:51:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 02 10:51:19 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44226 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1s2XmI-0006pz-U3 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 10:51:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57588) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1s2XmG-0006pt-Lg for 70713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 10:51:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1s2Xln-0006Gs-KK; Thu, 02 May 2024 10:50:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=o+ggZB/ojc2AeTptb8v+24Nyz73t8LfNf9hqb8cATRk=; b=aDcsbV4ucFJd 0Ogc9l/GFEG8z8JAvk2LAL2spaBLYfOfQlkCAEALEKTLFCL1NTgeQ0I0d/DwmOggLJKAm+Y3pH9fE UlknISsvIBhEUt35R2/NgtkQTREKeMzhBwUfjwSMwugq/i3Ii12Oz4cfHs6sohCGan6J6wXdsLNUL /9369pVUC7EjdWUwSg570dTAD1H+jSqu2NU5bJoWrXebehDJZtoRacei4HxtyjkKRD6cABE4HcyvK 32HCCOBMziftu82rXSAMESOAaeqNpqcO1O2XEEmkpnjgCNKvphuahS/rJGZJZ7KnahX1H1HoES5gz csIliuGmqmYfHAe6v3rjWg==; Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 17:50:43 +0300 Message-Id: <86h6fgl130.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Dewu <dewu@HIDDEN>, Corwin Brust <corwin@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <3701eb2c95207d5d45c5b2505e29666d@HIDDEN> (message from Dewu on Thu, 02 May 2024 08:01:58 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#70713: 29.3; Official Windows build - RSVG is either using an outdated version of the library or SVG support is not compiled correctly References: <3701eb2c95207d5d45c5b2505e29666d@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 70713 Cc: 70713 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 08:01:58 +0200 > From: Dewu <dewu@HIDDEN> > > SVG (RSVG) support appears broken on the official Windows builds of GNU > Emacs. > This appears most prominently in osm (osm.el) by minad, available both > on GNU > ELPA and MELPA, which uses SVG to display map tiles and location pins in > the > buffer. > The tiles with pins under them appear to be blank, regardless of zoom > levels or tile set used. > > The issue had been known to the developer of osm.el, as it was > previously > reported on both Windows and macOS: > - https://github.com/minad/osm/issues/23 > - https://github.com/minad/osm/issues/40 > The conclusion was that both builds of Emacs lacked proper SVG support > to display the tiles correctly. > > This does not happen on any versions of Emacs built for GNU/Linux > available in official repositories or Flatpak. > > I suspect that Emacs for Windows is either not built correctly with RSVG > support, or > the library it is built against is too old (librsvg-2-2.dll). > This does not happen in Emacs built by MSYS2 (mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs) > which > appears to be using a newer version of librsvg > (mingw-w64-x86_64-librsvg 2.58.0-1) > > To replicate: > - emacs -Q > - acquire osm (GitHub, ELPA, or MELPA) > - load it (manually, autoloads, use-package etc.) > - M-x osm RET > - navigate the map > - click on the map, add boomarks etc. > - map tiles with pins under them appears blank You seem to be talking about some binaries built from the source tarball. The Emacs project doesn't produce any binaries, it only produces source tarballs. If you downloaded the Windows binaries from the GNU FTP site, then the volunteer who prepares them (CC'ed) might be able to do something with that. But in any case, there's no Emacs bug here, per se, since what version of librsvg is being used to build Emacs is not under our control. In addition, I would like to point out that latest versions of librsvg switched to Rust as the implementation language, which makes the library less widely available. For this reason, Lisp packages should IMO not depend on features in these newer versions, if they want to be compatible to as many systems as possible.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#70713; Package emacs.
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This appears most prominently in osm (osm.el) by minad, available both on GNU ELPA and MELPA, which uses SVG to display map tiles and location pins in the buffer. The tiles with pins under them appear to be blank, regardless of zoom levels or tile set used. The issue had been known to the developer of osm.el, as it was previously reported on both Windows and macOS: - https://github.com/minad/osm/issues/23 - https://github.com/minad/osm/issues/40 The conclusion was that both builds of Emacs lacked proper SVG support to display the tiles correctly. This does not happen on any versions of Emacs built for GNU/Linux available in official repositories or Flatpak. I suspect that Emacs for Windows is either not built correctly with RSVG support, or the library it is built against is too old (librsvg-2-2.dll). This does not happen in Emacs built by MSYS2 (mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs) which appears to be using a newer version of librsvg (mingw-w64-x86_64-librsvg 2.58.0-1) To replicate: - emacs -Q - acquire osm (GitHub, ELPA, or MELPA) - load it (manually, autoloads, use-package etc.) - M-x osm RET - navigate the map - click on the map, add boomarks etc. - map tiles with pins under them appears blank In GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2024-03-24 built on AVALON Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19045.4291) Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation=aot --without-compress-install --with-sqlite3 --with-tree-sitter CFLAGS=-O2' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available) Important settings: value of $LANG: PLK locale-coding-system: cp1250 Major mode: Osm Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils mule-util format-spec url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs password-cache json subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars osm dom bookmark text-property-search pp compat compat-autoloads osm-autoloads thingatpt cl-loaddefs cl-lib find-func rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 78366 12110) (symbols 48 7186 0) (strings 32 23222 1764) (string-bytes 1 670931) (vectors 16 15482) (vector-slots 8 344174 16638) (floats 8 128 293) (intervals 56 420 1) (buffers 984 12))
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