Received: (at 71120) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2024 13:14:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 30 09:14:45 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35054 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sCfcC-00006A-Sv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 09:14:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52166) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <acorallo@HIDDEN>) id 1sCfcA-00005n-0C for 71120 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 09:14:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <acorallo@HIDDEN>) id 1sCfbt-0007Er-BS; Thu, 30 May 2024 09:14:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=QUptmOyDq7A5bWvlnKcGADZ3rgvuo94Fz5HtlW6vdmw=; b=IGBqEgQAHZDNTXdeTEiY RuPSa6pvbtPW4cvJ0Eu+tIaaDsbWYklAOuBQd1G+uj4Tlba957AQV6zz7ZUQCbOUWuf6okENQxOdu 3D6u3gmBqu0waOSvoNuDlDpQDfunltbs2drwlxRAqpZ5Theq83LTTjcVgaCVmrdEaUt9cD09hMN57 MaseMkbvuTDChFyxQK65O4QjDUKcjsCo/nC+jXMT5Z12TvnNOkIfOfL/HKWjJsEPadEi7gRVSWAaa DNAVbBmZF5VKfJpfo3WXXVBqfZLu5DHXSopnFGdbh4FvMRwY721uDUEm1OZFh1WYutm3RmgM0rESQ 4uOogkKnEcGjDA==; Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <acorallo@HIDDEN>) id 1sCfbt-0006mF-0u; Thu, 30 May 2024 09:14:25 -0400 From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> To: Mattias =?utf-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71120: 29.3; buglet in cl-loop In-Reply-To: <4ED83CF1-C697-46DF-99D2-56432A1E3B44@HIDDEN> ("Mattias =?utf-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd=22's?= message of "Thu, 30 May 2024 11:25:46 +0200") References: <23fd70f8-6e01-45d7-b9f9-d81d53c95ffd@HIDDEN> <87cyp4wdj7.fsf@HIDDEN> <4ED83CF1-C697-46DF-99D2-56432A1E3B44@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 09:14:24 -0400 Message-ID: <yp1le3rqw5r.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71120 Cc: 71120 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, Philippe Schnoebelen <phs@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> writes: > Philippe Schnoebelen <phs@HIDDEN> writes: > >> When I need a list of 100 random dice throws I write >>=20 >> (cl-loop for i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) >>=20 >> It compiles just fine. >>=20 >> If instead I use >>=20 >> (cl-loop for _i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) >>=20 >> then I get a compilation warning: >>=20 >> foo.el:1:18: Warning: variable =E2=80=98_i=E2=80=99 not left unused > > Quite unfair that you have no a priori way of knowing whether your variab= le name is actually the one that `cl-loop` uses for iteration or just one b= ound for each iteration (as in `dotimes`). > > A sloppy reading of Common Lisp's `loop` spec, which we don't need to fol= low since this isn't CL but we'd be fools to deviate too far from without a= good reason, didn't tell me anything. > > In particular nothing about whether the user is allowed to alter the vari= able in order to change the iteration. For example, what should > > (cl-loop for i from 1 to 100 > when (=3D i 3) do (setq i 98) > collect i) > > return? Perhaps better not touch that. If the spec doesn't say anything usually means it's left to the implementors (IOW it's UB). > Thus I don't think there's anything we really need to do here, do you? I, for one, think the nicest option is the one SBCL (and I guess other CL implementations) are using, that is to have 'i' 'ignorable', the problem is that we don't support this at language level. Andrea
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[80.217.1.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-529b5ed674bsm1014417e87.18.2024.05.30.02.25.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 May 2024 02:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#71120: 29.3; buglet in cl-loop From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87cyp4wdj7.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 11:25:46 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4ED83CF1-C697-46DF-99D2-56432A1E3B44@HIDDEN> References: <23fd70f8-6e01-45d7-b9f9-d81d53c95ffd@HIDDEN> <87cyp4wdj7.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71120 Cc: 71120 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, Philippe Schnoebelen <phs@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Philippe Schnoebelen <phs@HIDDEN> writes: > When I need a list of 100 random dice throws I write >=20 > (cl-loop for i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) >=20 > It compiles just fine. >=20 > If instead I use >=20 > (cl-loop for _i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) >=20 > then I get a compilation warning: >=20 > foo.el:1:18: Warning: variable =E2=80=98_i=E2=80=99 not left = unused Quite unfair that you have no a priori way of knowing whether your = variable name is actually the one that `cl-loop` uses for iteration or = just one bound for each iteration (as in `dotimes`). A sloppy reading of Common Lisp's `loop` spec, which we don't need to = follow since this isn't CL but we'd be fools to deviate too far from = without a good reason, didn't tell me anything. In particular nothing about whether the user is allowed to alter the = variable in order to change the iteration. For example, what should (cl-loop for i from 1 to 100 when (=3D i 3) do (setq i 98) collect i) return? Perhaps better not touch that. Thus I don't think there's anything we really need to do here, do you?
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Full text available.Received: (at 71120) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2024 21:49:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 29 17:49:31 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1sCRAo-0000Bb-In for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 17:49:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50828) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <acorallo@HIDDEN>) id 1sCRAm-0000BG-57 for 71120 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2024 17:49:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <acorallo@HIDDEN>) id 1sCRAV-0003HO-4x; Wed, 29 May 2024 17:49:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=pDJpNi2hb+n+FtmCJbRKndmHdQ8plg6bXcNsa8ufz04=; b=Ad6uqZo+0ntn1XmWe3w0 vC0jEYtSqwQRMqGHtNRo8xH/uWPe6rCtJYaHn5T34SiODbyyChhuwh8DLVGf2pXrdyDPPa9JtGsIn IXHj+H6pHaCqxDCBwx2aUygoS2d39udcS9n+zpN8/oABGxmR1sdbZc5YVs7fevdxlaW97uBkLPaoo Jc/fw/yG7EhejAlQYNIFH+LKYSphm+y0fWPhTPurfCHLa8XJy4SBuVUXyh7TDnBezSzlvl9PCeinD s6QXrLqQ2EJRWHI0pnA/uwN2FNt4r6ruwWB6TQTQ3bve/gtmUh4GhtG67Kpbpuq95DVCyDd3Qx8kc 9e3GnZaUHGeOLg==; Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <acorallo@HIDDEN>) id 1sCRAU-0007ow-FA; Wed, 29 May 2024 17:49:10 -0400 From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#71120: 29.3; buglet in cl-loop In-Reply-To: <yp1fru0s3pe.fsf@HIDDEN> (Andrea Corallo's message of "Wed, 29 May 2024 17:33:49 -0400") References: <23fd70f8-6e01-45d7-b9f9-d81d53c95ffd@HIDDEN> <87cyp4wdj7.fsf@HIDDEN> <yp1fru0s3pe.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 17:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <yp1bk4os2zt.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 71120 Cc: 71120 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Mattias =?utf-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= <mattiase@HIDDEN>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>, Philippe Schnoebelen <phs@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Andrea Corallo <acorallo@HIDDEN> writes: > Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Philippe Schnoebelen <phs@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>> When I need a list of 100 random dice throws I write >>> >>> (cl-loop for i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) >>> >>> It compiles just fine. >>> >>> If instead I use >>> >>> (cl-loop for _i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) >>> >>> then I get a compilation warning: >>> >>> foo.el:1:18: Warning: variable =E2=80=98_i=E2=80=99 not left unused >>> >>> It should be the other way around. >> >> The issue here is that the warning describes an issue in the output, in >> the latter case >> >> (let* ((_i 1) (--cl-var-- nil)) >> (while (<=3D _i 100) >> (setq --cl-var-- (cons (random 6) --cl-var--)) >> (setq _i (+ _i 1))) >> (nreverse --cl-var--)) >> >> As you see, _i is both evaluated in (+ _i 1) and updated. >> >> Here you have a minimal working example of the warning: >> >> (byte-compile (lambda () (let ((_x 3)) _x))) >> >> ;; Warning: variable =E2=80=98_x=E2=80=99 not left unused >> >> My guess is that fixing this would require cl-loop to notice that the >> counter is prefixed with a "_" and then use some other variable, but >> that might lead to issues with existing code. Perhaps this >> transformation might be safe in that case: >> >> (let* ((<fresh-variable> 1) (--cl-var-- nil)) >> (while (<=3D <fresh-variable> 100) >> (let ((_i <fresh-variable>)) >> (setq --cl-var-- (cons (random 6) --cl-var--)) >> (setq <fresh-variable> (+ <fresh-variable> 1)))) >> (nreverse --cl-var--)) >> >> I have added Mattias and Stefan to the CCs, as they'll probably have >> more qualified comments to add. > > This is the same transformation that came to my mind reading the orginal > report, I think it should be safe. As a datapoint, SBCL does expands this with inside a (declare (ignore i)) Unfortuantelly we don't support it :/ and our 'ignore' doesn't work here as goes in the opposite direction :( Andrea
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The issue here is that the warning describes an issue in the output, in the latter case (let* ((_i 1) (--cl-var-- nil)) (while (<=3D _i 100) (setq --cl-var-- (cons (random 6) --cl-var--)) (setq _i (+ _i 1))) (nreverse --cl-var--)) As you see, _i is both evaluated in (+ _i 1) and updated. Here you have a minimal working example of the warning: (byte-compile (lambda () (let ((_x 3)) _x))) ;; Warning: variable =E2=80=98_x=E2=80=99 not left unused My guess is that fixing this would require cl-loop to notice that the counter is prefixed with a "_" and then use some other variable, but that might lead to issues with existing code. Perhaps this transformation might be safe in that case: (let* ((<fresh-variable> 1) (--cl-var-- nil)) (while (<=3D <fresh-variable> 100) (let ((_i <fresh-variable>)) (setq --cl-var-- (cons (random 6) --cl-var--)) (setq <fresh-variable> (+ <fresh-variable> 1)))) (nreverse --cl-var--)) I have added Mattias and Stefan to the CCs, as they'll probably have more qualified comments to add. > > The variable 'i' is unused in the first form and that deserves a > warning at compile time. Otherwise the compiler will not help me catch > the typo in > > (cl-loop for i from 0 to 10 do > (cl-loop for j from 0 to 10 do > (foo j j))) ;; <<<=3D=3D=3D typo, I meant (foo i j) > > > --ph.schnoebelen, happy and thankful GNU Emacs user since 1983 (Thanks > to all involved!!) > > > > > --=20 Philip Kaludercic on peregrine
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If instead I use (cl-loop for _i from 1 to 100 collect (random 6)) then I get a compilation warning: foo.el:1:18: Warning: variable ā_iā not left unused It should be the other way around. The variable 'i' is unused in the first form and that deserves a warning at compile time. Otherwise the compiler will not help me catch the typo in (cl-loop for i from 0 to 10 do (cl-loop for j from 0 to 10 do (foo j j))) ;; <<<=== typo, I meant (foo i j) --ph.schnoebelen, happy and thankful GNU Emacs user since 1983 (Thanks to all involved!!)
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